Guild Wars 2

Shaogin.2679:

scorekeeper.6524:

Shaogin.2679:

Is tp teleport. What teleport and/or blink does druid have?

Yes, tp means teleport. Druid staff 3.

Um, druid staff 3 is an evade, not a teleport. Much like scrapper hammer 3 actually.

Annnnnd how many eframes does hammer 3 get compared to druid staff 3? And distance who goes further? And which skill isn’t affected by small bumps in the terrain?

Point is, you’re being tickytacky with semantics-for all intents and purposes its a tp ability, you press 3 you become untouchable and you travel a great distance.

coro.3176:

Just put evade on Rocket Boots and make it go a bit farther.

But yeah. Sneak Gyro was already not great because it only protects you from targeted attacks and only if you aren’t in the line of fire between your opponent and the gyro itself. It’s also a giant target that screams “AOE HERE”.

To add further insult, bouncing attacks that hit sneak gyro will bounce off and hit you while you’re in stealth…

Yes, this new sigil hurts stealth a bit, but on a long enough cooldown, on a pretty small radius, and at the cost of a weapon sigil. I think it’ll be fine. I doubt it’ll see too much play. However, it could be a problem for the game if people see thieves/mesmers on the other team and all put on this sigil to completely counter them.

I don’t think it’ll be a huge issue for engi, but I guess we’ll see.

It’s a 9 sec cd (unless they changed it) and engi in PvP right now is a melee class…so yeah we’ll always be in range of it, most likely. Since most meta engis run elixir line and since having double elixir s is pretty much mandatory in a meta full of classes that can burst you down/lock you down quick, it hurts than toolbelt elixir S is backdoor nerfed in this way.

edit: Rocketboots buff would be nice (though usually Condi builds take boots since the burn from the toolbelt is pretty good). Or give us a portal thingy like Mesmers. We are engis, after all, we construct things, would it make sense to let us construct little mini Asura portals?

Shaogin.2679:

Is tp teleport. What teleport and/or blink does druid have?

Yes, tp means teleport. Druid staff 3.

Now that people will glom to the new sigil of revelation because of thiefhate, so much for having stealth ourselves I guess.

Anet can you at least give us a tp or blink ability like thief, and dh, and mesmer, and druid, and necro, and revenant, and ele? Something so we are not a slow lumbering tank? At least with stealth we had a slight chance of retreating from a fight…

EDIT: Sigil of Revelation cd has been nerfed to 18 seconds. Now it’s not so bad, running stealth as an Engi is still viable with the cd nerf to the sigil. GGWP Anet! Mods can delete this now if they want.

Thanks for the ninja nerf to engis who run elixir s and stealth gyro. :slow clap:

I like the Krait rune personally.

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This is my lazy build-
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlcThyrY1VwmKQ7FL5F14VMiFR4D2PVG4BGAVFA-ThBBABYt/o8rS1fOTJYe6AC4CAAwDAgUA5J0C-e

Just sit back, pop your elixirs and hit stuff. For more might go into the alchemy line. For near perma quickness go into scrapper line and use leadership runes instead of scholar. If you don’t have ascended gear, the just use relevant exotics instead.

I predict mace. We need another main hand weapon aside from pistol, and a CC one at that. It’ll also make shield a relevant weapon again. It’d be cool if we had access to something like auras if that were possible.

If you use the use Dire instead of Viper you should be fine. You lose condi duration but your condi damage is still good enough in open world content. The health from Dire stats will keep you alive.

I just threw this together- http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqalcThatYfXw6KQ7FLsFF4HWiBgYHNFPRYKeRvGA-TBiAwA40Dk4EAA4BAYV5XGlgw2f4o6PPM/RKAFlGB-e

The alchemy and inventions line can help keep you alive as well, with easy condi clears, bunker down, and mech legs. You can replace elixir B with elixir S for even more survivability plus a stealth.

I’ve been playing GW2 for 2 years but haven’t seriously played PvP until Season 5. I placed into silver and have remained there for the majority of the season. Since my friend has left the game for reasons, I’d like to find other like-minded people to play with on a consistent basis so I can grow as a player and get better. For me I don’t feel solo queue is productive towards that end. I main engineer, and am marginally good with necromancer, thief, and elementalist. I am also trying to learn mesmer.

Oh I agree with that. I just played 10 games as a necro with my friend. We won 9 of them. I always had either the most damage and/or most kills. And necro is a class I’ve played the least at out of my characters. It’s crazy how hard I would have to work as an engie to be half as effective in PvP compared to Necros.

As an engi we suffer from the worst downstate. No stealth, no teleport, no massive bloodsucking ability, no massive knockback until 6 secs on the ground. I’m fine with DS overall but fix engies!!

I actually disagree about PvP Phineas, we can 1 v 1 every class except necro. We can even 1 v 2 certain situations as well. We can’t win these matchups, we rely on a plus 1 from our teammates, but we can at least delay and contest nodes until a teammate arrives. I don’t feel scrapper is a good teamfighter but a small skirmisher and node pusher.

It just sucks that’s our only role. I’d like to see a viable Condi roamer build be possible, if we had more mobility it might be acceptable, but I feel scrapper is too good at what it does that unless you have another engi or a druid you’re hurting your team by not playing the meta. Like warrior has two builds, necro kinda has two builds, thief depending on your bracket has two. It’d be nice to have another build that could impact the matchups.

The counter argument would be that pro players like Sindrener or Helseth couldn’t get dailies done since they only play ranked. Maybe they should rework what type of dailies are offered as well.

Right, so instead of providing feedback to the company that makes the game we pay for and consume, instead of giving them criticism and suggestions about the class we spend a majority of our time on, we should just shut up and take it.

Oke doke

http://icrontic.com/uploads/features/tech/2011/09/nothing_to_see_here.jpg

I still see people camping so its not completely gone yet :P

I would add 3) a node is not worth you dying over it. If you are low on health and you are outnumbered with no backup coming, just leave the node and try to reset. Kite off of node and drag 1 or 2 people with you, it’ll keep them from stomping you quickly and then going to your teammates to outnumber them.

Also 4) learn how to stomp and cleave. Learn how to stomp downed people without being interrupted and if you can cleave do it! Make those rezzers pay for trying to get their teammate back up! If you do this right you’ll have not just 1 dead person but 2 or 3.

What you guys don’t like item nomenclature? :P

I vote for either prefix or stat combo.

coro.3176:

• power rifle – very bad: I have run this build for years and still use it. Not enough damage to justify the risk. Too much projectile hate. Not enough sustain/evade to keep up with HoT

I disagree about rifle. The power rifle meta build is really strong right now, it just depends on where you use it. Check out this site, both Vipers and Zerkers builds are very effective. http://qtfy.enjin.com/engineer

The problem IMO is that both builds use bomb, grenade, and mortar kits. The variety is not lacking in weapon choice but in utility/kit choice. Even in the traitlines, you only change Chemical Rounds to High Caliber.

And to the posts about luck when it comes to MM. Think of each player being 1 die, total of 10 dice in each game. You have control over 1 die, that’s you. You can control yourself but not the other 9 dice. If the game rolls these10 dice for 100 games, and everytime you can control the outcome of one of those die, its not entirely luck based and more often than not you can influence those odds into your favor.

For example, if you load with 3 thieves on your team, if you politely ask someone switch before the game starts, more often than not 1 person usually will switch. Key here though is to ask POLITELY :P

Shaogin.2679:

I’m really curious about all the logic flying around here. What conditions exactly must a player go through to prove that you will eventually end up in the division you belong? Apparently seeing a player start in bronze and climb to legend isn’t good enough. So what would it take to show you guys that it is possible, or are you guys dead set on denying ant evidence that doesn’t support your claims?

Because, as people have already stated, he’s a Legendary player who was already good and just smashed his way back to the top. He’s a major league athlete who started playing with high school level athletes and worked his way back to the big leagues. But that should be a no-brainer to everyone. Had Helseth not gotten back to Legendary, ELO hell would not have been proven, but Helseth’s real skill would’ve been exposed.

Now, an actual test of the fabled ELO hell would be taking a mediocre player, making him better and then seeing if he can climb all the way to the top. This journey would seem to be more difficult since no one wakes up one day and is suddenly really good at PvP. Even guys like Helseth has many games under his belt and thus many experiences that puts him in his deserved rank. If you don’t have the amount of games or experience in PvP, your journey to the top will be longer and harder than the one displayed by Helseth. So to answer your question, it would help if several average players who got better and then got to legendary would make posts similar to Helseth detailing their path from the bottom tiers to the top.

He doesn’t get it Phineas. I play Ranger when I want to farm SW. I use SB and Staff and have a condition build with a little bit of mobility. It’s not meta but it works for me. Now is it logical that I pop my head over to the Ranger forums and tell those who are discussing the state of Ranger that “Hey guys, Ranger works for me, here’s my build, the class doesn’t need any changes. If you’re unhappy go play another class.” ?

You’re absolutely right in your analysis. Engie used to be a well used class, but then has been nerfed continually so that other classes achieve better results in less time. We’re asking “Why?” and “Can we please have our original class utility back?” But no, we’re told by Mr. White Knight “Go play another class.” We here are not Johnny-Come-Latelys, we’ve played this class enough to know when we are getting the short end of the stick in nearly all content.

@shion- What rank are you? Just curious, since I’d be surprised to see that in the Legendary tier. If you are Legendary or Plat with that build, you have my congratulations.

I believe Phineas meant that since the Scrapper line was very powerful when released, to stay effective with the powerspikes given to other classes we Engis had to take that line. No one is forcing you to choose anything in any content if you are playing for yourself. However, if you raid, do fractals, dungeons, or PvP you are expected to pick not just a viable build (which are many) but an optimal build (which are few)

Start with zerker gear. You could make marauders if you want to not worry about dodging things as much, but you won’t hit as hard. Eventually make a set of vipers so you can choose between power rifle/hammer builds and condition p/p builds. Get ascended trinkets before weapons or armor.

Obtena.7952:

scorekeeper.6524:

Unfortunately Obtena, because Anet has decided to push harder forward in its PvP mode, it has to think about the competitive meta. Otherwise the competitive scene will grow stale and people will leave. Metas change when devs give players the tools to change it. Sitting on your hands and not addressing key issues with classes across the board in a competitive game will not help anything.

I don’t see that … or to be more clear, I don’t think Classes being pushed to a meta status relates to ensuring that the competitive scene doesn’t grow stale. In otherwords … Anet can achieve ‘fresh’ scene and still have one or more crappy PVP classes.

I never said Anet doesn’t make changes to the game that affect meta … obviously they do. What I’m talking about here is that I do not think Anet purposefully make game changes to impact the meta state in some direction, so using meta to appeal to Anet’s focus to fix Eng is way out of line. Basically, I don’t think Anet makes balance changes around what is and is not meta. The reason being because it’s folly to chase it.

It’s funny because you’re the only one here claiming we are “chasing a meta”.

DGraves said in the OP “I’m not certain but I think a lot of players feel the same way about the Engineer so the question isn’t “how do I save it!” but rather just whether you think it really is going to be meaningful to be an Engineer past this point in development if something major doesn’t change.”

I believe his original intent with the question was not “Argh! Anet fix my class!” but “If something doesn’t change soon, will I still main engie?” I think that’s a valid question to ask of a class that is very unique but very mediocre compared to others

I never got the turret heal either until I learned this trick- if you spam the heal keybind quickly you will simultaneously place and overload it. Then F1 and done, you did all three heals plus condi cleanse. Otherwise if you don’t spam the key then you lose precious seconds as it takes the skill animations time to show your character place the turret and then more seconds while the turret overcharges. Its akin to the stow weapon trick for other classes while autoattacking, I believe.

Unfortunately Obtena, because Anet has decided to push harder forward in its PvP mode, it has to think about the competitive meta. Otherwise the competitive scene will grow stale and people will leave. Metas change when devs give players the tools to change it. Sitting on your hands and not addressing key issues with classes across the board in a competitive game will not help anything.

Have you fired a mortar kit with a Charr? Those guys one-hand the things like pistols. It’s awesome!

In all seriousness, I think it’s a good kit atm. My real petpeeve is that they should make our kits shiny/fiery depending on what legendary we have equipped! And bring back hobo sacks!!!!

Make Elixir S so that we truly are invulnerable. Pop Elixir S and get immobilized? Well that sucks for you. If the tooltip said “grants evasion” I could understand.

Make Magnet Pull not be obstructed by the tiny pebbles all over the place. Also make it truly UNBLOCKABLE as it says in the tooltip. Use magnet on a Thief, Druid, DH, or Warrior, and they just laugh at you. Otherwise, change the tooltip wording, again.

Increase EGun range. Or give Engies a dash/blink ability.

Give us eframes back please.

All in all I love Engie and think the class is great. This is just a wishlist

My first toon was an engie. I’ve made every other class but revnant and i still play my original engie 90% of the time. Even through the good and bad of the class “balancing” we receive I still get the greatest enjoyment when I play engineer. Its the most rewarding class when played well, imo. Hope you have fun leveling yours. Engie is probably one of the best classes in open world content.

My one regret is I wish I had made a Charr engie not a human one :/

Dawdler.8521:

scorekeeper.6524:

First, I would like to see how your healing would look like if you played your ele first, then your engie. You might have done so well on the ele because you warmed up with your engie, thus allowing your ele rotations to perform better. Just a thought.

When I was bored this summer, I made a set of minstrel gear. Yeah. That was fun :/

The healing on the engie would have looked just as bad.

There absolutely no comparison in healing potential. An ele is crushingly superior. Ha, I bet an ele just standing in waterform doing nothing heals better than an engie going through all rotations.

I don’t disagree. But I would still be interested to see the difference. For science.

First, I would like to see how your healing would look like if you played your ele first, then your engie. You might have done so well on the ele because you warmed up with your engie, thus allowing your ele rotations to perform better. Just a thought.

When I was bored this summer, I made a set of minstrel gear. Yeah. That was fun :/

I think the best commanders are Asurans actually. It’s like the opposite of what you’d expect. IDK I find it kind of humorous.

I’m an engie main, but I’m a human :/ BUT if I were to reroll I would go Charr engie because I think that looks cooler than plain-jane humans. In terms of Charr mogs- I like to keep things simple on them and “true” to their bodies, i.e. not bulky armor/clothing that inhibits a Charr’s natural running ability and movement. I really like the way Charr looked in GW1, not a fan of the over-the-top looks that come with GW2 mogs. I, unfortunately, have never been a fan of Asurans or Sylvari. Or even Norns.

@Bigpapasmurf whats your thoughts on rabid trinkets vs dire/rabid?

“… Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions — everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses.”
—Juvenal

Enter Edge of the Mists.
Pick a reward track.
Follow your commander (hopefully they have a brain).
Collect tomes for doing objectives and leveling up.

Do this a you’ll get enough to level to 80 in a few days.

cyberzombie.7348:

Lastly make net shot unblockable

Our magnet pull is unblockable, but warriors, guards, druids, etc. all have ways to counter this, despite it being “UNBLOCKABLE”.

You know Anet, I think it’s time you change your tooltips to read “unblockable…well some of the time.”

I’m actually trying a variant of this in WvW. Just trying to keep the zerg alive!

Rifle used to be the power weapon for engie, in comparison to pistol, which is condi 100% and shield, a defensive/cc weapon.

Now that we have hammer and that is our go to power weapon. IMO rifle needs to retuned into a full CC weapon. It already has net shot and overcharged shot, how hard would it be to make jump shot include a knockdown? Or have blunderbuss inflict cripple?

Xyonon.3987:

Especially … well … they can’t “fly” over cliffs … T_T

This is especially annoying in wvw >_>

Throw this up on reddit as well. For some reason devs look at reddit and respond there more than they ever do here in their own forums.

I like a lot of you suggestions. Problem with E-Gun, pistol, and rifle is the amount of projectile hate other classes have. We need an ability to break through reflects and blocks to even things out and make engie more viable in pvp and wvw.

Padre, try playing elementalist. It is similar to the engie in that you can’t weapon swap and you have to cycle through your attunements like an engie cycles through his weapon and kits/utilities. Plus, you do a crapton of damage with ele, it really is a faceroll class.

As for the engineer and its deficiencies- the problem I see with the class is it is truly unique from every single other class in the game. We don’t have signets, we don’t use shouts, we don’t have the utilities that every other class has- gadgets, kits, and turrets are unique only to us. The addition of gyros actually makes us more similar to other classes since they are essentially pets (think guard’s spirit weapons, ele’s elementals, etc.)

Which brings me to my point- Anet began the class as a true break from the cookie cutter classes that are Ranger, Ele, Guard, Warrior, Thief, and Necro (I grant that the Mesmer is not really a staple class in other MMOs). But ever since conception, they are slowly degrading us to become more like those classes and less unique. Every patch they don’t do this you see the outcry on the forums. Some people are happy with watering down the class- to each their own. But for me, I want to see turrets back, gadgets, lesser used kits (looking at you medkit) and ways to make the engie more distinct, not just the redheaded stepchild of the game.

Killed him twice, still no achievement!! Please fix Anet!

I killed him twice as well, still no achievement!! Please fix Anet!

Give me back the ability to pick and choose from my six (now seven) trait lines. I feel that ever since we were forced to max out 3 and only 3 trait lines, the utility of the engie was lost.

As for the OP- turret/gadget love pls

PSA to people wanting Largos-

They are no longing giving any love to underwater anything. They stated as much in the AMA. They even are no longer developing anymore underwater legendaries. It just ain’t gonna happ’n cap’n.

Tengu however- Shut up and take my money Anet!!

lynspottery.6529:

I think I shall try that. Now to figure out the race …hmmmmm

Charr. Hands down.

TheBravery.9615

low tier in WvW

Get a friend who’s a ranger, run GS/Hammer, and just stun-lock + 100 blade stragglers while he/she pew pews from range is just sooooooo much fun.

But overall, yes, Warrior is even low tier in WvW too :/ I mostly did solo WvW, EotM zerging to get to level 14 for my legendary…and it was a pain in the kitten .

Cerby.1069:

Better to play through with one of the more ‘complicated’ professions first (elementalist if you like ranged), then afterwards if you really want to make your second character something like a warrior

I agree with this advice.

I started over a year ago, my first character and main was an Engineer. Once I leveled him to 80, I dabbled with a Guard, a Ranger, and a Mesmer, but never thought of them as my mains, like my engie.

Three weeks ago I started playing a Warrior.

And I haven’t looked back. It is just too much kittening fun to play. The damage is unreal, and now with the Berzerker spec, condi damage builds are fun to play with as well.

OP, most people on these forums are PvPers, so, yes, for PvP advice heed them- with only 3 weeks on my warrior, even I can see what they mean by warriors being kitten in PvP, compared to other classes. Not undoable, certainly, but it’ll be a brick wall you’re smashing to get thru to higher tiers.

In PvE, especially “harder” areas like HoT ones, Warrior is just a joy to play. I’ve never had more fun smashing NPCs in my life while play this game.

Mashing people’s faces in with pure manly damage. It’s a refreshing playstyle compared to my months playing my engineer or guard