Keep crashing after the last update. I am going to the character selection menu (after log-in), picking character and getting "network error, code=1083:5:7:1596:101.
edt. Just to make it clear – i dont have a problems w/ my internet connection.
Name: Legendary Human Prince Rurik or Turai Ossa Description: Both being warriors, the skills and abilities could be more combat focused with a nice mixture of offence and defence.
Name: Legendary Charr Khan-Ur Description: Could be technologically focused like the Charr are now.
Name: Legendary Asura Snaff Description: Could focus on the use of Golems and telepathy, which his creations were known for
1) King Adelbern – gonna be more interensting than just warr rurik/turai ossa, since he was sorceror-king and it gives more space for the skills/mechanics, than just offensive/defensive skills.
2) Khan-Ur is not the name, but command rank. Like tribune, soldier, etc.
3) Snaff is “too young” to be the legendary stance character. There are a lot of really LEGENDARY asura candidates for stance. Like Blimm, Vekk, Oola, Zinn, Sokka. And if we want to use golem technologies – ill stick to Oola or Blimm.
run t4 fractals, teq and wurm and pray you get ascended armor chests and all you need is a exotic viper recipe and use that with the mystic toilet to get your asc viper set. it might take a while but save you a kitten load of gold.
Here i come again. 2 monthes ago it took me 400 obsi/mysticcoins/ectos to get ~60-65 mystic clovers. And overall chance was still ~15% (are you kittening kidding me? this is not “get random kitten ” recipe, this is “mystic clover” recipe).
Today (screen below) i got 12 clovers out of 60 1x recipes, which gives 20% chance (which is not enough for “mystic clvoer” recipe, but kinda ok for “random kitten from mystic toilet” recipe).
So, i want to call it again. Give us straight Mystic Clover recipe for mystic forge, that gives 100% (one hundred percent) chance to get Mystic Clover.
Thanks for attention.
P.S. Yes, i am very salty atm.
RNG. I’m still running at about 33% over all of the mystic clovers that I have forged.
33% is still not enough for recipe that calls “mystic clover”. 33% is exactly enough for recipe “get 4 items into the forge and get random reward from the lsit below”.
edt. Thsi is like : get gift of fortune, bolt, mastery and zap and get 33% chance to get Bolt and 67% chance to get some rodgort or minstrel.
It’s a recipe where one of the outputs is mystic clovers. It’s not the “mystic clover recipe”. You’re also wrong in your edit.
It is a MF recipe, it has no name, and the wikia does kot pretend to give one. Why do you think people call it the mystic toilets? MF was designed to be a sink for different kinds of mats, and the mystic clovers are here to force the sink to work. Explaining dev choices and micro-economics might also be too hard to explain to you.
Oh really?
Ok I’m done. I start realising that we’re wasting our time and effort. Too many things to explain, up to the wikia format and word listing, it is too much, I have better things to do.
Here i come again. 2 monthes ago it took me 400 obsi/mysticcoins/ectos to get ~60-65 mystic clovers. And overall chance was still ~15% (are you kittening kidding me? this is not “get random kitten ” recipe, this is “mystic clover” recipe).
Today (screen below) i got 12 clovers out of 60 1x recipes, which gives 20% chance (which is not enough for “mystic clvoer” recipe, but kinda ok for “random kitten from mystic toilet” recipe).
So, i want to call it again. Give us straight Mystic Clover recipe for mystic forge, that gives 100% (one hundred percent) chance to get Mystic Clover.
Thanks for attention.
P.S. Yes, i am very salty atm.
RNG. I’m still running at about 33% over all of the mystic clovers that I have forged.
33% is still not enough for recipe that calls “mystic clover”. 33% is exactly enough for recipe “get 4 items into the forge and get random reward from the lsit below”.
edt. Thsi is like : get gift of fortune, bolt, mastery and zap and get 33% chance to get Bolt and 67% chance to get some rodgort or minstrel.
It’s a recipe where one of the outputs is mystic clovers. It’s not the “mystic clover recipe”. You’re also wrong in your edit.
It is a MF recipe, it has no name, and the wikia does kot pretend to give one. Why do you think people call it the mystic toilets? MF was designed to be a sink for different kinds of mats, and the mystic clovers are here to force the sink to work. Explaining dev choices and micro-economics might also be too hard to explain to you.
Oh really?
That’s the output that you get for that particular item…
So, its recipes, that calls “mystic clover” (2nd screen from the msytic forge recipes list), but randomly produces various items.
Here i come again. 2 monthes ago it took me 400 obsi/mysticcoins/ectos to get ~60-65 mystic clovers. And overall chance was still ~15% (are you kittening kidding me? this is not “get random kitten ” recipe, this is “mystic clover” recipe).
Today (screen below) i got 12 clovers out of 60 1x recipes, which gives 20% chance (which is not enough for “mystic clvoer” recipe, but kinda ok for “random kitten from mystic toilet” recipe).
So, i want to call it again. Give us straight Mystic Clover recipe for mystic forge, that gives 100% (one hundred percent) chance to get Mystic Clover.
Thanks for attention.
P.S. Yes, i am very salty atm.
RNG. I’m still running at about 33% over all of the mystic clovers that I have forged.
33% is still not enough for recipe that calls “mystic clover”. 33% is exactly enough for recipe “get 4 items into the forge and get random reward from the lsit below”.
edt. Thsi is like : get gift of fortune, bolt, mastery and zap and get 33% chance to get Bolt and 67% chance to get some rodgort or minstrel.
It’s a recipe where one of the outputs is mystic clovers. It’s not the “mystic clover recipe”. You’re also wrong in your edit.
It is a MF recipe, it has no name, and the wikia does kot pretend to give one. Why do you think people call it the mystic toilets? MF was designed to be a sink for different kinds of mats, and the mystic clovers are here to force the sink to work. Explaining dev choices and micro-economics might also be too hard to explain to you.
Here i come again. 2 monthes ago it took me 400 obsi/mysticcoins/ectos to get ~60-65 mystic clovers. And overall chance was still ~15% (are you kittening kidding me? this is not “get random kitten ” recipe, this is “mystic clover” recipe).
Today (screen below) i got 12 clovers out of 60 1x recipes, which gives 20% chance (which is not enough for “mystic clvoer” recipe, but kinda ok for “random kitten from mystic toilet” recipe).
So, i want to call it again. Give us straight Mystic Clover recipe for mystic forge, that gives 100% (one hundred percent) chance to get Mystic Clover.
Thanks for attention.
P.S. Yes, i am very salty atm.
RNG. I’m still running at about 33% over all of the mystic clovers that I have forged.
33% is still not enough for recipe that calls “mystic clover”. 33% is exactly enough for recipe “get 4 items into the forge and get random reward from the lsit below”.
edt. Thsi is like : get gift of fortune, bolt, mastery and zap and get 33% chance to get Bolt and 67% chance to get some rodgort or minstrel.
It’s a recipe where one of the outputs is mystic clovers. It’s not the “mystic clover recipe”. You’re also wrong in your edit.
At max tick it gives from ~150 (eotm) to ~200 (wvw) each 5 sec. Each track has 20k points. 20000/ 200 (taking max possible tick) = 100 ticks. 100 ticks * 5 min = 500 min / 60 min (hour) = ~8.5 hour. So, 8.5 hour = 2 clovers. 77/2 = 38.5 * 8.5 hours = 163.6 hours. Lets say you playing 2.5 hours of wvw/eotm a day, so, 163.6/2.5 = 65.5 days = more than 2 monthes.
Stop whining about the 33% chance and do pvp if you want hard rewards! Why do you think it is called mystic “clovers” with 4-leaves clovers? And why do you think you need 77? (777 rings any bell when we talk luck?)
Over the course of 77, 92.3% of players will use 210 to 250 tries. It is random only for small numbers. The more you play, the more constant are the gains, and at 77 it is fairly predictable, unless you hurt RNGeesus very much. If it is still too much, I repeat: go pvp!!!
Please, calm your kittens. I am doing both pvp and wvw. And if you think that 2 clovers each 3-4 days (without nolife pvp/wvw) is good reward – quit the discussion. This is a joke.
Also, more like 7.7% of players will use 210 to 250 tries and another 92.3% will use from 250 to 500.
Here i come again. 2 monthes ago it took me 400 obsi/mysticcoins/ectos to get ~60-65 mystic clovers. And overall chance was still ~15% (are you kittening kidding me? this is not “get random kitten ” recipe, this is “mystic clover” recipe).
Today (screen below) i got 12 clovers out of 60 1x recipes, which gives 20% chance (which is not enough for “mystic clvoer” recipe, but kinda ok for “random kitten from mystic toilet” recipe).
So, i want to call it again. Give us straight Mystic Clover recipe for mystic forge, that gives 100% (one hundred percent) chance to get Mystic Clover.
Thanks for attention.
P.S. Yes, i am very salty atm.
You do know there are other ways right? If you don’t mind PvP you get some from tracks. I just need to make the gift of fourtune and metal and I’ve finished the moot, not a single clover made. I also made the Flameseeker prophecies just before HoT launched, so there are other ways so your not wasting time/coin.
Also in be for lock for necro posting.
I have 6 legies atm, jsut finished 7th today (2nd twilight for sale) and working on bolt+shield. If you really think that 2 clovers/track/~3-4days (if not nolife pvp/wvw) + 7 clvoers/month is ok reward, that’s is sad for you.
Lol sad for me? I was there are other ways, to avoid your bad luck, but if you want to get all passive aggressive about it feel free. You seem to spend plenty of time playing to have made so many legendary weapons, so it’s not like you can’t afford to waist the gold.
Here i come again. 2 monthes ago it took me 400 obsi/mysticcoins/ectos to get ~60-65 mystic clovers. And overall chance was still ~15% (are you kittening kidding me? this is not “get random kitten ” recipe, this is “mystic clover” recipe).
Today (screen below) i got 12 clovers out of 60 1x recipes, which gives 20% chance (which is not enough for “mystic clvoer” recipe, but kinda ok for “random kitten from mystic toilet” recipe).
So, i want to call it again. Give us straight Mystic Clover recipe for mystic forge, that gives 100% (one hundred percent) chance to get Mystic Clover.
Thanks for attention.
P.S. Yes, i am very salty atm.
You do know there are other ways right? If you don’t mind PvP you get some from tracks. I just need to make the gift of fourtune and metal and I’ve finished the moot, not a single clover made. I also made the Flameseeker prophecies just before HoT launched, so there are other ways so your not wasting time/coin.
Also in be for lock for necro posting.
I have 6 legies atm, jsut finished 7th today (2nd twilight for sale) and working on bolt+shield. If you really think that 2 clovers/track/~3-4days (if not nolife pvp/wvw) + 7 clvoers/month is ok reward, that’s is sad for you.
Lol sad for me? I was there are other ways, to avoid your bad luck, but if you want to get all passive aggressive about it feel free. You seem to spend plenty of time playing to have made so many legendary weapons, so it’s not like you can’t afford to waist the gold.
Do pvp dailies. It will take you 10mins max and you’ll get an average of 3-5 mystic clovers a week. When mystic forge is daily, I always do the MC recipe, at least if you get crap you get your mystic coin back.
Here i come again. 2 monthes ago it took me 400 obsi/mysticcoins/ectos to get ~60-65 mystic clovers. And overall chance was still ~15% (are you kittening kidding me? this is not “get random kitten ” recipe, this is “mystic clover” recipe).
Today (screen below) i got 12 clovers out of 60 1x recipes, which gives 20% chance (which is not enough for “mystic clvoer” recipe, but kinda ok for “random kitten from mystic toilet” recipe).
So, i want to call it again. Give us straight Mystic Clover recipe for mystic forge, that gives 100% (one hundred percent) chance to get Mystic Clover.
Thanks for attention.
P.S. Yes, i am very salty atm.
RNG. I’m still running at about 33% over all of the mystic clovers that I have forged.
33% is still not enough for recipe that calls “mystic clover”. 33% is exactly enough for recipe “get 4 items into the forge and get random reward from the lsit below”.
edt. Thsi is like : get gift of fortune, bolt, mastery and zap and get 33% chance to get Bolt and 67% chance to get some rodgort or minstrel.
Here i come again. 2 monthes ago it took me 400 obsi/mysticcoins/ectos to get ~60-65 mystic clovers. And overall chance was still ~15% (are you kittening kidding me? this is not “get random kitten ” recipe, this is “mystic clover” recipe).
Today (screen below) i got 12 clovers out of 60 1x recipes, which gives 20% chance (which is not enough for “mystic clvoer” recipe, but kinda ok for “random kitten from mystic toilet” recipe).
So, i want to call it again. Give us straight Mystic Clover recipe for mystic forge, that gives 100% (one hundred percent) chance to get Mystic Clover.
Thanks for attention.
P.S. Yes, i am very salty atm.
You do know there are other ways right? If you don’t mind PvP you get some from tracks. I just need to make the gift of fourtune and metal and I’ve finished the moot, not a single clover made. I also made the Flameseeker prophecies just before HoT launched, so there are other ways so your not wasting time/coin.
Also in be for lock for necro posting.
I have 6 legies atm, jsut finished 7th today (2nd twilight for sale) and working on bolt+shield. If you really think that 2 clovers/track/~3-4days (if not nolife pvp/wvw) + 7 clvoers/month is ok reward, that’s is sad for you.
Here i come again. 2 monthes ago it took me 400 obsi/mysticcoins/ectos to get ~60-65 mystic clovers. And overall chance was still ~15% (are you kittening kidding me? this is not “get random kitten ” recipe, this is “mystic clover” recipe).
Today (screen below) i got 12 clovers out of 60 1x recipes, which gives 20% chance (which is not enough for “mystic clvoer” recipe, but kinda ok for “random kitten from mystic toilet” recipe).
So, i want to call it again. Give us straight Mystic Clover recipe for mystic forge, that gives 100% (one hundred percent) chance to get Mystic Clover.
Thanks for attention.
P.S. Yes, i am very salty atm.
Keep trying. The hardest part is that ore nodes are seemingly hard to find. Do events while you’re searching so it doesn’t get too grindy. It only took me a couple of hours and I got mine from a plain mithril ore node just outside the east entrance across from the east watch challenge.
still nothing here =D i doubt it even possible to get it, thanks anet for that gr8 wasting of time..
edt.: actually same thing with items for uzolan collection, they drops once a week
you can buy legendaries off the trading post, the mystic forge is luck based, if you don’t have good luck (and no I don’t mean the stat) then you’re not ever going to find 77 clovers, no matter how many times you do the recipe.
Using the 1 clover/try recipe, there’s roughly a 4% chance you’ll need more than 300 tries using (assuming a 30% chance of success). Using the 10 clover/try recipe, there’s around a 28% chance that you’ll get less than 8 successes.
In other words, not only is the OP only reporting an example of bad luck, it’s not even extraordinarily bad luck.
True that. But anyway, chance to get clover over anything else should be slightly higher.
It is. You have a ~33% chance while any other item is in the single digits.
Chance for clovers should be higher. This is not recipe : get random reward from the list.
Using the 1 clover/try recipe, there’s roughly a 4% chance you’ll need more than 300 tries using (assuming a 30% chance of success). Using the 10 clover/try recipe, there’s around a 28% chance that you’ll get less than 8 successes.
In other words, not only is the OP only reporting an example of bad luck, it’s not even extraordinarily bad luck.
True that. But anyway, chance to get clover over anything else should be slightly higher.
Play some PvP, you get them from some of the tracks. I have 88 just from playing PvP for about 8 months, and that not from farming the tracks that drop clovers. So it’s an option.
I have crafted 6 legendary weapons, and I never used more than 200 of each to get all clovers.
I use that recepie for 10 of them, and I usually get like 3 or 4 in row, then some skips and again few in a row.
Seems like you are just unlucky xD
This is my 5th and i didnt have any problems with MFclovers before spring update.
If you already have your T6 and only want the clovers (you should always do the clovers first, BTW), then you need to do the x1 recipe ONLY. Using the x10 makes you more susceptible to bad strings of luck (since you only get 1/10th of the attempts).
Both, like 80:20 (10:1)
I got my t6 mats from supply line+map reward long time before t6 mats.
I needed to make 55 last night, i used the 10 recipe and got 30 in the first 3 tries.
Then had a bad streak so ended up using the single recipe. I think it was around 180 each by the time i finished.
The extra mats i made from clover failures i sold to make up the cost of the failed tries.
I finished my legendary Astralasia to so was happy.
I jsut throw in another 40 coins/ecto/obsi and got 2x gossamer and some t6 =D
meanwhile i dont need any t6 mats and still missing 4 clovers and i dont have karma/relics lefts to buy obsidian shards.
When i am doing MYSTiC CLOVER recipe, i dont want to get t6 mats, gossamer, orichalcum or kittening mystic crystals. I WANT TO GET M.Y.S.T.I.C.C.L.O.V.E.R.S.
That’s why you craft the mystic clovers before buying the T6 mats for the respective Gifts. It feels annoying not to get those clovers, but you end up getting them, and the road to those stacks of T6 mats has been significantly shortened.
I can buy myself twice more t6 mats from TP for that money.
Been this way since the beginning of the game. I have all I need for the one I am working on without playing the mystic toilet. I got all mine thru the boxes at the end of the daily log in rewards.
Before this spring update i got 50/70 clovers. Now chance to get is a joke.
edt. Just imagine situation – you doing Nevermore in MF and getting Howler or 50 obsi shards. Whatever, this is a legy aswell =D
1st of all – i am super mad right now cuz of all this situation.
Are you kittening serious with those mystic clover chances in MF? In last 2 days i had throw in 300+ of each mysitccoins/ecto/obsi and got 35-40 mystic clovers.
When i am doing MYSTiC CLOVER recipe, i dont want to get t6 mats, gossamer, orichalcum or kittening mystic crystals. I WANT TO GET M.Y.S.T.I.C.C.L.O.V.E.R.S.
Its ok if ill get some stuff of the listed above once per 5 tries. But not clvoers once per 15 tries.
Thanks for attension. I really hope youll gonna fix this.
But you can. You just face those risks for the sake of not paying that 15%.
Its not the same.
You can list an item at TP for 1k gold, youll pay ~100g for listing it and if you decide to decrease price to 900g at some point, youll need to pay another ~100g for listing.
Fee should be taken after succesfulyl sold item, not jsut to list it.
That’s not the only problem on the Asura. At least 80% of the weapons and armors have clipping issues. Weapons disappearing in the ground, clipping through arms, ears, hands through armor, etc… Asura is my favourite race but I can’t play with them because I am limited to a handful of weapon / armor skins to play with because the rest of them look ugly as hell because of clipping…
Talking about asuras : i have 8/9 characters – asuras. Clipping at some of the armors, as you admit, is pretty annoying. But cmon, this is legendary weapon. At least this one must look great.
Hello. This is 1241254125th thread about Incinerator on asura, i bet. More than that – i cant believe that scaling of this fire effect on arms is not fixed yet. This looks just super ugly.
Could be something like; “Repeat last recipe”; or once you have dropped the mats into the forge there could be “Craft X amount”; or “Craft as many as I have the mats for” buttons.
This is, actually ,very good idea aswell. I jsut create this tread, cuz i spent a lot of time a few days ago to forge 92 onyx lodestones and soon ill need to forge 90 of each molten and destroyer lodestones. Itll be super annoying =[
Hello. Not sure if some1 posted this idea before or not. So, ill start : itll be really AWESOME if we will get recipe for mystic forge to forge 20 Cores into 10 Lodestoens at the same time (even 10 into 5 at the same time will really good). I hope some1 from dev crew will check this thread and say his opinion =]
edt. Also, i expect some support from players, cuz i am sure youll be glad to get this recipe (at least 80% of you) =]
Bumping threads is against forum rules, and your question was answered.
I didnt c any red post here – so question was not answered.
Also, “Bumping threads is against forum rules”, i seriously doubt at least some1 from Devs’ crew reading it – they are too busy reading reddit instead of their own off forum.
Hello. First of all, so sorry for english, but i hop you will get what i am talking about .
As far as i remember, we got info, that we will be able to finish this achievement aswell as “Spiritual Drinker” one during whole 2016 year. So i bought like 1.5k+ candy canes and were using em only were i was running events (to get karma profit). Right now i am at 2.439/2.500 with a few thousands of candy canes in my inventory, but when i am using em – they do not count into achievement progress.
Are you seriuos with that?
I don’t think you can get banned for it, but I don’t think your plan is all that reliable. Just because you log out and back in doesn’t mean you automatically get put into a new instance. I think, however, that if you log in with a different character each time your nodes will reset. Maybe I misunderstood and that was what you meant.
Today i had farm some LS achievement and gether some mithril mine near mission entrance, then i had start the mission, did the achieve and after exiting the instance the nod has restart.
I didn’t say it would never work. I said it wouldn’t work reliably. There is no guarantee that you’ll get a different instance when you come back. The longer you’re away, the greater the chance that your old instance may have been destroyed, so working through the LS increases the odds of getting a different instance. I’ve been able to farm nodes in this manner as little as 15 minutes before, but never less than that. Of course, maybe I’m just unlucky. Your best bet is to park as many high level characters as you can by these nodes and work through them at every opportunity. If you can make it work on a single character, more power to you.
Regardless, your initial question was whether or not this was bannable, and I believe the answer is that you can do this without fearing the ban hammer.
Actually, you are right =] As i said, ill use relogin untill ill get nobs, it doesnt matter how much time it take.
After all i need 137 of 144 FfCl, this is a lot of gold for me (i dont even have) =]
There was a mass banning surrounding foxfire awhile ago, but the cases where people were falsely banned was fixed. (There was quite a big number of people actually botting it)
Exactly what i am talking about. I just googled the ways to farm foxfire clusters and found reddit thread about wave of banns. A lot of ppl that didnt use programs to automate the farm got banned.
I don’t think you can get banned for it, but I don’t think your plan is all that reliable. Just because you log out and back in doesn’t mean you automatically get put into a new instance. I think, however, that if you log in with a different character each time your nodes will reset. Maybe I misunderstood and that was what you meant.
Today i had farm some LS achievement and gether some mithril mine near mission entrance, then i had start the mission, did the achieve and after exiting the instance the nod has restart.
I guess even if ill relogin twice in a row for farm FfCl – it worth it. I had start to craft ascended backpiece today and i need lots of FfCl =]
