Guild Wars 2

The /dance or die stuck bug happens to thiefs as well But they are aware of the problem and already ignoring it.

But as someone said b4, this forum is a no read zone for devs. If you want a response start with something like "Taimi is so cute! ". There is always a response.

I think a strong server community and identity should be an important part of a working Server vs Server vs Server concept. But since it makes no difference if you win or loose for your worldservermeltingpot nobody cares anymore. WvW —--> Dead. The community tryed hard to make something out of it but got let down. Whoever is in Charge of WVW at AN should read the posts instead of deleting them. Noone doing an awesome job here and Season 2 wasnt an exciting overall success. Wake up.

I feel the same.

Besides the shared WvWexp fix and the Sanctum GVG corner there hasnt been anything new to WvW since launch that affected the game mode in a positive way. EotM was a big waste of devtime. Ruins had no Impact (waste of devtime again). Seasons promoted PPT-Blobbing, Siegeoverkill, Serverstacking and Lag.

WvW-guilds are falling appart everywhere. Running around in BLs and EB looking for fights always results in facing T3 Towers loaded with ACs or 60+ Blobs facerolling accross the map. So the Raids end leaving players bored and annnoyed. Everyone is “looking for a new game” mindset by now.

Which is a shame. The fighting system of gw2 is awesome. For example: 20vs20 fights work perfectly and are fun and challenging. But since people are encouraged to blob for PPT those good fights hardly ever happen.

WvW need major attention. New skins and another boring season based on blobs and nightcaps wont do the job.

Worst thing is that there is no “light at the end of the tunnel.” This entire topic will we ignored. New map takes 6 month? And they are not even working on one yet? Actually, even if the new map would be released next week i still dont think wvw would become fun again. As the core problems:

1) “PPT—>encourages boring gameplay” Every sieged up t3 is bad news for funfights.
2) “WvW has no reason to play it(unrewarding and lack of motivation)”
3) “Blobbing”
4) “No GVG support”

will remain in the game. Im beyond asking for attention for wvw. Just go ahead with more JPs and waypointmastery. The fact that YOUR wvw community organized highlights like the GvGs of TA and Agg which were followed on twitch by way more players then all of your official Pve and Spvp tournaments combined should have been an eyeopener for you. These players took your game and turned it into something better. They organise themselves and turn water into wine. Ignorance is your reward for them. It could have been the Esport you always wished Spvp would be. But its not Spvp your game could be awesome at. Its WvW and its GvG.

Some WvW topic just got deleted. So someone must be reading it.

I feel the same.

Besides the shared WvWexp fix and the Sanctum GVG corner there hasnt been anything new to WvW since launch that affected the game mode in a positive way. EotM was a big waste of devtime. Ruins had no Impact (waste of devtime again). Seasons promoted PPT-Blobbing, Siegeoverkill, Serverstacking and Lag.

WvW-guilds are falling appart everywhere. Running around in BLs and EB looking for fights always results in facing T3 Towers loaded with ACs or 60+ Blobs facerolling accross the map. So the Raids end leaving players bored and annnoyed. Everyone is “looking for a new game” mindset by now.

Which is a shame. The fighting system of gw2 is awesome. For example: 20vs20 fights work perfectly and are fun and challenging. But since people are encouraged to blob for PPT those good fights hardly ever happen.

WvW need major attention. New skins and another boring season based on blobs and nightcaps wont do the job.

Worst thing is that there is no “light at the end of the tunnel.” This entire topic will we ignored. New map takes 6 month? And they are not even working on one yet? Actually, even if the new map would be released next week i still dont think wvw would become fun again. As the core problems:

1) “PPT—>encourages boring gameplay” Every sieged up t3 is bad news for funfights.
2) “WvW has no reason to play it(unrewarding and lack of motivation)”
3) “Blobbing”
4) “No GVG support”

will remain in the game. Im beyond asking for attention for wvw. Just go ahead with more JPs and waypointmastery. The fact that YOUR wvw community organized highlights like the GvGs of TA and Agg which were followed on twitch by way more players then all of your official Pve and Spvp tournaments combined should have been an eyeopener for you. These players took your game and turned it into something better. They organise themselves and turn water into wine. Ignorance is your reward for them. It could have been the Esport you always wished Spvp would be. But its not Spvp your game could be awesome at. Its WvW and its GvG.

Condi War/Engi, Perma Stealth, PU Mesmer are some that come to my mind.

Hello,

Oh noes hes not playing meta and actually goes a different approach!

People here said that venomshare is a waste because of condicleanse spam in a Blob.

Solution: dont Blawb

In a 15-20ish guild grp that condition bomb can eat trough those cleanses. Especially since the condis are not applied all at once but on every hit. Instant cleanse spam will fail If the timing is good i can imagine some viability there. Maybe even in a party with a condi necro.

Trying new ways is the way those awsome metas get created that will then be copypasted by exactly the same people that conkitten players that take a different approach.

Those Pros that are prolly running S/D 20066 or perma builds atm.

Keep trying and dont let the mob of simpleminded copycats drag you down.

Bonvy

Condi eh?

Still a strong build that got even better now that krait runes are replacing those odd max bleed duration rune mixes.

I have played this build for a way to long time. Even b4 Wildbill ran it (his build was odd back then) Then played S/D for a while and got good results. But nowhere near as effective as P/D was back then.

But it is also considered “cheese mode”(so is D/P and S/D). Its a very easy to learn build that at the end of the day shows its flaws against good players.

For example against D/P perma builds its almost a must to be able to land C&D on cloaked enemys. Against evil 2 0 0 6 6 or similar S/X builds its all about getting the fight close to the returningpoints of the enemy thiefs teleport skills to not allow him to rangereset. Dont try to C/D on them right after they jumped you unless your timing is perfect you will miss.

Shadowrefuge should be used as a heal via combofield/healing projectile. I almost never just sit in there.

Perplexity Runes do not make sense. In my opinion they never did. On a condi thief they have never been OP. They were wasted money.

Still i would recommend to learn a different build. For the fun I guess thats why people are enjoying S/x builds so much at the moment cause they are fun to play.

lots of good answers and theorys. But in a bette world we would get a “yes its bugged” or “no we only want 3 people to have it” from a dev.

i agree. Some items and titles should say “i was there and got this item at the time” The liadri mini for example. Just let the new liadri mini have a different colour if your to lazy to make up a new reward. Liadri was a though one at that time. Harder then today for skill equip camera and other reasons. i suffered on my thief to get her down at that time.

This year it took me 3 attemps and i already did her with 3 gambles (bc i thought its an achievment which it wasnt)

Is there a bug preventing it from dropping?

Is the chance just supposed to be as low as it is?

I ask this because i want to know before wasting anymore time and gold on going for it.

IF it is supposed to be that rare im ok with it.

I just dont want to log in tomorrow seeing 50 of them on tradepost because it has been fixed over night. And all those bags i opened before will be wasted.

So please is it working as intended?

since when is P/D considered cheesy?

D/P with its was the build that outstealthed any other thiefbuild in order to be the one landing that backstab. The build that most players considered cheesy.

P/D has always been a good build but lacked dmg, duration and condi variety (compared to other condi clases). So anyone who was able to copy/paste the word “melandru” did ok against that build.

Just sayin..i played thatbuild for a long time, like it and honstly met way more D/P D/D or even S/X builds.

So you might not be joining a train but actually leaving it.

Yeah just found that awesome rune on my thief. That is a perfect condi thief rune. Finally no more crap runes mix just to get some bleed duration.

About time.

I agree accusing an entire server for hacking is trolling at best.

Numbers and Nightcapping = win

So back to topic:

1 Gandara
2 Pikens
3 Gunnars
4 Drakkar
5 Fsp
…..

No statement yet. Lets give it a push.

I think putting green items into a 6 week meta achievement is not rewarding but taunting.

That Dolly mini got wrecked 1 min after i opened the chest. No way the Devs must have thought that players would be happy with those rewards. As i said, i feel provoked.

They spent 0 effort on those rewards and tossed them together in 5min during lunchbreak.

A finisher? Ok! But with charges? —-→ Keep it.

I expected something like a:
Ascended weapon of choice with a unique skin.
Nice unique Armor Skins?
Nice unique colours?
a huge unique Bag? (all wvwler would have loved this one)

Something you could only get when you fought in Season1 and never again after that day. That would have been a reward. We got daily chest niveau junk.

Something that says " Season 1 Guildwars2 i was there!"

One may say: “But WvW is all about playing with and against other players and not rewards.”

But i think wvw lacks a few things and rewards is one of them. Not getting a statement on that topic tells me they know what they did or actually didnt do.

Big missed chance there.

+ Some of the things you had to do to get the key where silly (jumpingpuzzles). But the promise of a great reward helped me to force myself trough that same ol JP for another and hopefully last 3 times. Im sure they thought doing a jp 3 times must be insane fun.

On rewards and Ranks: Give the big servers (winning servers a different title so they can feel like winners) The main reward must be equal though. People shouldnt be punished for not having enough nightcappers or not hopping on the winning train.
I think thats common sense. It would just be bad for the game.

Players have made WvW a way bigger thing then spvp (the place you test your builds ) Its time Arena net notices that, gives up on esport dreams and puts more effort into that part.

Id also like to thank Arenanet for giving in on the gvg topic and providing guilds a chance to do GVGs. Nice Move.

WvW Go Go!

Balanced and ok matchup so far. Guilds like Slay and Tag delivering good fights to us.

About Siegewars:

So GuM claims Hills (ours) and makes it their home. Put loads of gold in it, takes care of fresh supplies and so on. I would siege that place up as well. It might not be any fun attacking it but thats the point. People leave for somewhere they dont have to do 4h of siegewars. Legit.

About Blobbing?

Ive seen Abbadon! There is no Blobbing in this matchup. Its all smallscale between campflipping grps. Trust me on that one.

Have a fun week.

Axe Effects <Teo>
Bonvy <Teo>

mtRXX.8793:

Had a great fight on a camp.. thanks Anet also in the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJpVmxKHgg

made by Zip

Very well done. WBC is a force. Always calming to know you people are around.

Thx to FR and UW for a hard but fun matchup.

Bonvy <Teo>
Axe Effects <Teo>

With my p/d thief from Time to Time i run into opponents that seem to be alot more challenging then the usual foes. 2 out of 3 are mesmers wielding a 1hs/? . They seem to do good dmg and are indeed very confusing. Of the Mesmer know how to move and act clonelike you loose important seconds to find him no matter how much you fokus on doing so. A thief uses this way of confusing his enemys too by cloaking and repositioning.

Clones however dont need to orientate and Instanty fire their pistol attacks the moment the target visible again.

I wouldnt call the Mesmer OP but hes is for sure a real monster that starts every fight with his guns well loaded.

Outplaying … A Word that got mentioned here a few times implements a in general higher skilllvl for Mesmerplayers, i disagree. Lets face it Mesmers are a strong class.

Last Night Eb in the Blue area was loads of fun. Skill lags were pain but still those zergs in the french keep were epic. Thx to rof for that. Also those skirmishes around umber were funny. Only those /Laugh spammors from those umad’s after downing my poor thief with a Team of daggerele, guardien and 2 thiefs were Not really cool. Big deal. Kudos for that hooded thief though for playing well and not freaking out over on my dead body for 5 min ^^. Very Fun to fight you.

Sry for typos … Iphone at work.

Bonvy WSR
Thief War

Dear Gunners,

I’d like to say thx for the Fun matchup with you. Even though the Balance wasnt really great all of us together managed to turn those past days into something that was enjoyable. All those little scirmishes and in particular a 1vs1 against a mesmer of yours that lasted forever gave me an insight of how very little i know about this game and how much there is still to learn. Anyways, i play wvw for fun and you delivered. I never felt as if some Server beeing your fokustarget and therefor any accusations in that direction are nothing but thin air.
Loved to see those clashes between EO and Fury keeping safe distance with my thief and dropping a few caltrops here and there. Goodluck with Ros and those dear germans.

Bonvy
Thief WSR War