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Posted by: Kordash.2197

Kordash.2197

Miku, challenge him to beat Sesshi time on bloomhunger solo. I posted in the other thread. Let’s see how he’ll react.

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

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Miku, challenge him to beat Sesshi time on bloomhunger solo. I posted in the other thread. Let’s see how he’ll react.

Seems kinda an unfair challenge for him.

To do that he would need to have Facts, knowledge or skill, and he clearly seems to be lacking one or all of those.

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deSade.9437

I don’t see why anyone would have to lower himself to his level of petty, passive aggression just to prove… to prove what? He says 1 right thing and then a load of bullkitten follows. Why take it seriously?
…but I love watching meekew kick kitten , I’ll admit <3

P.S. My rev is fixed!… now I dunno what to do with it. /thinks Jeerus, like, 50s of might at the start of the fight? :o

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Talyn.3295

I don’t care what Nemmy does. He just hands out such good material for it.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Reaper seems to have gotten a nice bump. Gravedigger spam is sweet, RS auto seems much better, Death’s Charge feels less clunky. Just all around feels fun now. And having lifeforce on that third auto of RS is pretty sweet.

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deSade.9437

I need to try gravedigger fully buffed with quickness :/ it must be one of the hardest hitting attacks in the kitten game.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

Is… Is reaper getting better? …is there actually a tiny bit of hope for Necros?

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I was gonna type “would be cool to swap an ele for a necro in a dungeon party and try it out” then I thought… whatever. What’s the point?
Anyway, it’s like night and day from the previous beta. Just don’t forget gravedigger is a SLOW skill, even if it’s a big number. The aftercast is still there. It says 1 1/4, but I bet it isn’t any less than 1.6+ and I’m pulling it out of my kitten .
…the thing is, you can’t spam 100b or rapid fire for as long as you like at 50%

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Talyn.3295

I was gonna type “would be cool to swap an ele for a necro in a dungeon party and try it out” then I thought… whatever. What’s the point?
Anyway, it’s like night and day from the previous beta. Just don’t forget gravedigger is a SLOW skill, even if it’s a big number. The aftercast is still there. It says 1 1/4, but I bet it isn’t any less than 1.6+ and I’m pulling it out of my kitten .
…the thing is, you can’t spam 100b or rapid fire for as long as you like at 50%

I am going to have to ask you to step out of the car sir. Have you been drinking? Cause it almost sounds like your using the words Neco and Good in the same sentence. The Meta try-hards will crack at the very thought of such a thing. It’s kitten near… well its very bad.

You should think about what your doing, everytime you suggest necro might be good a kitten plays in a field of flowers! Think of the madness you are causing here.

P.S. Beta weekends are fun. Still like chrono more, but I love my little evil asura reaper.

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I… I don’t know if I’ve been drinking. Cant’ tell if I’m delusional and I’m imagining it or it could happen.
inb4 did the wyvern and put gravedigger on autoattack LOLOLOL

/runs after kitty

P.S. Try out condi daredevil.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

I should really try Lupi solo with Rev, looks like it should be pretty easy

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deSade.9437

It’s a cakewalk. Even easier than guard.

This exact part of the song started while I was gliding, lul
To try.
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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

Lupi looks faceroll for dd. With SoA that’s 5 dodges in a row…..

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

I should really try Lupi solo with Rev, looks like it should be pretty easy

It’s a lot of fun, I can easily see Revenant being extremely important in futur group comp.

Good access to party wide buff (perma protection,fury,swiftness) Very high uptime Projectile block, party wide ferocity buff. Extremely good Vulnerability.

Hell if Raid really are hard, 2 revenant for perma 50% + protection buffs. I don’t know how they add up but that’s crazy!

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Two kittening attacks. This boss they kept dying from. Has. TWO. kittening. ATTACKS. And you only have to dodge ONE, the autoattack. It’s about 2 kittening seconds wind up, I’m not even joking. Half zerg was perma downed…
They can’t dodge one kittenING ATTACK and they need kittening healers to carry them and fix their messups. Trinity? yeah: dodge, don’t be an idiot, don’t afk.

P.S. Lol at people boasting for a solo rev. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Exclusive-rewards-from-Raids-confirmed/first#post5451824 Sooo good, they so good. I did this and that, I’m not a casual, but I dont wanna raid so just gimme stuff

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Posted by: TheRandomGuy.7246

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I like how people in the chat are analyzing a fight and theory crafting their way to tanks and healers when all they had to do to win was dodging obvious telegraph.

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

We all know there is a faction of players who heard the words challenging and assumed Tanks and Healers would be needed. Dodge is an exploit and we all know it.

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And I didn’t screen the previous part where they were like “wtf? these oneshots!??!” (the aa didn’t even oneshot my squishy thief, it’s about 7k…) and then “I see the trinity coming back to HoT! these fights so challenging”.
Guh. That guy, challenging.
But the funniest thing is watching them at the champion teragriff. Or the shadow thingies.

P.S. Ok, I’m starting to love Glint. God, rev feels so GOOD. It’s good at pretty much everything I like…

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Talyn.3295

I popped in on my Rev for a bit. Even lagging badly, 200-300 ping I only died once and that was my own fault. I dodge rolled backwards on a bridge and kinda fell off. Don’t judge me!

But yeah, my guess is that none of those guys who ever stepped inside a dungeon if they thought that was “challenging.”

My god. Anet could be right, the Raids really will reduce most of the players in this game to tears.

P.S. the thing i hate most about the Revs is the very limited skills, and how its all tied to the Legends. I know that’s their class concept but. Yeah, not a fan of it yet. Guess I will keep trying it.

P.P.S Is there any truth that Rev might replace guard for meta stuff? Not sure I am really liking Rev enough for that.

P.P.P.S Its not that I hate it, i just don’t want to make all new legendaries. I wasted my gold on Spiky Fruit and gatorade.

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P.P.P.S Its not that I hate it, i just don’t want to make all new legendaries. I wasted my gold on Spiky Fruit and gatorade.

Good thing you can go treasure hunting

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Hmf. I’ve noticed this… trend: there seems to be an underlying, denied, subdued, neurotic hate for the guardian – from the people bashing it for its presumed “easiness” (“hah, the omg-i-kitten ed-lemme-pop-aegis class! you do stuff on that? doesn’t count, it’s an easy class”), to the guys comparing it to mesmer and calling it a class for noobs or pugs (“everyone knows mesmer is so much better in a GOOD party p.s: you suck”) and then everyone trying to swap the poor guy and kick it out of every party to make room for more “offensive” classes. “Mes meta? 3 ele meta? 2 thieves meta? engi meta? rev meta?!?! GET THAT CLASS OUTTA MY SIGHT I DON’T CARE HOW”.
.. but I’m off topic. Don’t mind my paranoid ravings, I’m just self-conscious because… reasons.
The ideal situation would be to have this triad of utility/support classes as.. just that, a trinity that hopefully won’t see a clear winner in all situations.
Re: rev, well…
1. partywide dps buff – fury – might – ferocity
2. proj absorption that is pretty crazy handy
This is done better than a guard, but a guard has other things. So does the mesmer. If I’ll ever step foot in a raid (doubt it at this point), I’m sure all will be extremely valid in a group situation, and it will depend heavily on the encounter IF anet does it right.
Hint: they won’t, so sure, I can see rev with that ferocity buff going in the way.

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https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/In-Game-Message-Options/first#post5460811

Quality of life request if anyone feels like giving it a bump

Pleeeease

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Wethospu.6437

Just wondering if anyone is willing to help with gw2dungeons and write descriptions/tactics for every single thrash enemy. Some general instructions what to look for when fighting them and how to counter them.

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

Those post are pretty sad.

Btw thanks for the back up. I swear people don’t read the forums any more then they do the LFG.

That is pretty sad.

Now I am sad

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

That ranger deeps.

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dlonie.6547

You know it’s early when you 4-man CoE path 1 and try to 1-4 the golem spawns.

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

You know it’s early when you 4-man CoE path 1 and try to 1-4 the golem spawns.

Not sure why, but this really had me cracking up.

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Posted by: bladex.9502

bladex.9502

Just wondering if anyone is willing to help with gw2dungeons and write descriptions/tactics for every single thrash enemy. Some general instructions what to look for when fighting them and how to counter them.

I can do the trash mobs in Arah if you want

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Posted by: Ryn.6459

Ryn.6459

So, how is Rev? People seems quite satisfied

Learning English, any correction is very welcome.

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Those post are pretty sad.

Btw thanks for the back up. I swear people don’t read the forums any more then they do the LFG.

That is pretty sad.

Now I am sad

Awww come on. Here, hooman. I hunted down this mice for you.
/throws dead bloody mice on lap
Feel better already, I bet.

And condi ranger is growing on me like a wart. I don’t mind it at all. Well, maybe I do, but it has its uses. Abom literally melts.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Exclusive-rewards-from-Raids-confirmed/page/3

I WANT TO DEPART FROM THIS CRUEL WORLD.

“Oh I want to put effort in, just as much effort as any raider, just NOT in raids”. Because farming the godkitten shadow behemoth 200 times is the same as doing hard (well, hopefully) content. ALRIGHT, SURE.

/departs

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

Hum just a thought: people seem to be wanting the elite specs to be direct buffs to current classes (look at the Necro example all over this thread)

Isn’t that just plain powercreep?

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Well, yeah. But with extra flavour.

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Quickfoot Katana.8642

Well I dont know.. I think it kinda limits our choices / diversity even more when the elite specs are better versions of the core classes

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Tar—dragonhunter is something different from what we’ve been expecting of a guard – well tbf it’s just a trap ranger with blue flames and shiny particle effects but STILL, it’s supposed to feel different, right? It sucks [to me]; an elite specialisation should not [imo] mean your class gets shaken up and down and turned into something you didn’t want in the first place.
Why do you bring a guard? surely not for the cripple or the bleeding <.<
I don’t wanna play that stupid DH spec even if some math junkie says it’s 10% better, I don’t (said the brat stomping his feet), because it doesn’t feel guardian, with those kittened traps and the clunky virtues (insta casting skills are the thing I like the most in the universe, after mushroom pizzas).
The chrono is very mesmer, and strong as hell – nice bonus, but it’s not exactly the same as a regular mesmer. Same for the daredevil. A daredevil is very.. thiefy, but not quite the same.

Sure, you can say “just don’t take the trait line if you don’t like it, you dummy”. Yeah, but what if it’s better? I wanna play a guard/thief/mes, not another class with the same animations, kittenmit. Isn’t that the purpose of roles?
It’s the daily struggle of the tryhard-ish hardcore-ish elitist-ish not-entirely-sure-what-this-is I have to face every godkitten time I pick my ranger because I wanna play it and I’m like “But I can’t use sword here, I do the damage of a soldier ele… Jesus, I should roll ele”.
I.. guess you can say I’m old-fashioned and I like having foundations?

+1 to exploring new things and being a lil different, -1 to going out of the way to be different just for the sake of it and in the process screwing up a class.
Example: +1 to mesmers studying time flow and being able to discover more ways of shattering their illusions, -10000000 to mesmers waking up one day, grabbing a rifle and becoming an evasive, stealthy character with 3 dodge bars and clones giving initiative.
But this is just me. I tend to get attached to things – no, animations don’t count for what makes a class… what it is.

Ofc I’m exaggerating and skimming over the fact that you can indeed take DH traits, without having to use lb or traps. What is eating at me is the new and unbearably clunky virtues and the selfish traits. Bllleeeeeeeeeeeh. More dmg modifiers, wow. So cool. /sigh

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Hum just a thought: people seem to be wanting the elite specs to be direct buffs to current classes (look at the Necro example all over this thread)

Isn’t that just plain powercreep?

Any profession other than Necro I’d agree, but with necro they just lacked and were so far behind that they needed power. And even with the increased power of Reaper they’re still behind IMO.

Power creep is an issue when you’re talking about the Meta/optimal stuff, it’s not power creep when non optimal setups are given power to compete, that’s called balance/tuning.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I dunno, what’s the point of making necros stronger if all classes (but ele I guess, which is still so high up it won’t change anything) become stronger aswell?

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Jerus.4350

Just PUGed Arah, got berated for asking if the thief wanted to solo the Entities (as with a whole team they can de-clump and people sometimes have to jump out of the light like I had to), guy made sure to tell me he was blocking me…. then he ranges Lupi and drops Defense/Tactics at the Last boss of p1… can’t say I’ve laughed so hard. Ohh and after berating me without listening to my logic he proceeds to die on one of the tar spouts, ahh it was enjoyable, rest of the group was awesome though, great group, smooth run, but that guy… wowza.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

I dunno, what’s the point of making necros stronger if all classes (but ele I guess, which is still so high up it won’t change anything) become stronger aswell?

Yeah pretty much any other profession getting more power is simply power creep, ranger/engi have some openings for niche spots but overall power, naw. But, Necro, it NEEDED it.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Ahhh, defense/tactics combo… last time I’ve seen it, we were back in the good ol cof p1 farming days…
/dreamy eyes
The real question is tho: was he using predator?

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Naw, Twilight, and people wonder why I don’t see any level of prestige in those types of items

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deSade.9437

But.. I got eternity, so that means I’m good and you like me,. right? Right??

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

Those post are pretty sad.

Btw thanks for the back up. I swear people don’t read the forums any more then they do the LFG.

That is pretty sad.

Now I am sad

Awww come on. Here, hooman. I hunted down this mice for you.
/throws dead bloody mice on lap
Feel better already, I bet.

And condi ranger is growing on me like a wart. I don’t mind it at all. Well, maybe I do, but it has its uses. Abom literally melts.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Exclusive-rewards-from-Raids-confirmed/page/3

I WANT TO DEPART FROM THIS CRUEL WORLD.

“Oh I want to put effort in, just as much effort as any raider, just NOT in raids”. Because farming the godkitten shadow behemoth 200 times is the same as doing hard (well, hopefully) content. ALRIGHT, SURE.

/departs

I guess it was inevitable that anything with Good rewards, (yet to be seen) and difficult content (also yet to be seen) would freak alot of people out. Anet has kinda spoiled the player base up until now. Here is to hoping they stick to their guns on this one.

P.S. Thanks for the gift, it really made my day

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Why are almost unknown dungeon guilds so freaking tryhard? It’s absolutely ridiculous. And pathetic in some cases.

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Why are almost unknown dungeon guilds so freaking tryhard? It’s absolutely ridiculous. And pathetic in some cases.

It makes me cringe too because I’m pretty sure I know exactly what kind of players you’re referring to. The scrubs that try to act like they are bigshots in pug groups by intentionally making things inconvenient for the others and harpy feathering instead of blasting stealth, and make huge deals out of trivial things like whether or not the group comp is ele/ele/thief/guard/warrior, etc etc…

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Yeah, those guys. And whining because they got 21 might stacks instead of 25 in a pug, or because not everyone has 10/10 weapons, or running ahead and using risky strategies – then die and yell at the unlucky necro/engi/guard/whoever.

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Posted by: SlyDevil.3952

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and harpy feathering instead of blasting stealth

I once had both thieves in an arah path run off with harpy feathers.

Also PSA: versatile power on warrior had an ICD placed on it stealthily, no more bundle spam.

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Talyn.3295

That is some cringe worthy activity there. I have heard people talk about the EU Gulds before but kinda always chalked it up as people being people. Can’t say I have ever noticed any guilds or players doing that on NA, Dungeon guilds or otherwise.

Of course, I don’t know all the Dungeon guilds on the NA side. I guess I have been pretty blessed because I can only remember a few instances when I pugged were people decided to be kittens. Mostly they were just either in-experienced or bad, sometimes using the wrong armor or weapons, (usually my fellow guardians).

Even then I didn’t feel the need to call them out on it, cause it never really felt to important. Sometimes I would leave early on, if I knew things were gonna go badly, sometimes I would stick with, doing my best to carry if needed.

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I’ve seen it, but usually it’s from the “zerk meta ping gear” groups… tryhards.

I will say sometimes in Arah I just say “screw you” and run the skips solo leaving a trail of back aggro, then apologize and go “ok, here’s your portal” :b Sometimes it’s easier than trying to coordinate with PUGs and get myself caught in some nasty situation.

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It’s just so frustrating to be stuck in between, not a tryhard nor a casual… and not crazy enough to take the game so seriously, BUT at the same time I don’t have the patience for messy, puggy, casual runs with lots of old fgs spots. I should just stop playing, but then again I caved in a bought HoT..
I’m a moron. Yeah, I guess that’s pretty much the answer to all of my question.