Seriously? balanced what are you on, and where can i get some. That is like saying Devona’s Rest is a very high population server. You smoke more than Anet does. The game is balanced for the poo of PVP that it has. WvW in Guild Warriors 2 is all about heavies.
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The guy in the video didn’t use staff so it isn’t relevant at all.
You seriously underestimate the importance of positioning in a fight. Sure the hammer train Warriors and Guardians don’t need positioning they just need to stick with their zerg as close as possible. The rest of the classes have their own place in the fight and the best spot is usually not inside the train.
Will you PLEASE stick to one video that you want to talk about rather than going on and on and posting videos of different builds from different players from different months.
As for the second bit, which video are you talking about now…
I am guessing the zerg one, the one where the dude used a staff and well build spamming AoE and where the Zerg for some of it most of the work like the Guardians all using Line Of Warding to screw up the enemy zerg stealth.
The guy in the video didn’t use staff so it isn’t relevant at all.
You seriously underestimate the importance of positioning in a fight. Sure the hammer train Warriors and Guardians don’t need positioning they just need to stick with their zerg as close as possible. The rest of the classes have their own place in the fight and the best spot is usually not inside the train.
Will you PLEASE stick to one video that you want to talk about rather than going on and on and posting videos of different builds from different players from different months.
As for the second bit, which video are you talking about now…
I am guessing the zerg one, the one where the dude used a staff and well build spamming AoE and where the Zerg for some of it most of the work like the Guardians all using Line Of Warding to screw up the enemy zerg stealth.
I really don’t even see how the time differences or the builds even matter. Two roamers used similar zerker builds and the zerging one had points in Blood Magic.
I really don’t even see how the time differences or the builds even matter. Two roamers used similar zerker builds and the zerging one had points in Blood Magic.
How many classes have been BUFFED since the July video was posted…
Just because YOU are not getting nerfed in a build while also not getting any buffs, if another class is getting BUFFED that can still affect your build as well.
Then you get on to gear, for all you know in them Videos, He might have been wearing ascended gear, while they people that he killed wearing white level 1 items. The build and what traits as well as gear are quite important when it comes to WvW…
I really don’t even see how the time differences or the builds even matter. Two roamers used similar zerker builds and the zerging one had points in Blood Magic.
How many classes have been BUFFED since the July video was posted…
Just because YOU are not getting nerfed in a build while also not getting any buffs, if another class is getting BUFFED that can still affect your build as well.
Then you get on to gear, for all you know in them Videos, He might have been wearing ascended gear, while they people that he killed wearing white level 1 items. The build and what traits as well as gear are quite important when it comes to WvW…
All these terrible assumptions and almost no balance changes have even happened since then. The video from July couldn’t even have any ascended weapons and the new one already said trinkets. The zerging one barely matters since even if he had full ascended it shouldn’t have changed his survivability much at all considering ascended armor wasn’t released yet if you really think ascended matters that much in a zerg fight. Now rare equipment is a huge loss in stats compared to exotics to ascended.
All these terrible assumptions and almost no balance changes have even happened since then. The video from July couldn’t even have any ascended weapons and the new one already said trinkets. The zerging one barely matters since even if he had full ascended it shouldn’t have changed his survivability much at all considering ascended armor wasn’t released yet if you really think ascended matters that much in a zerg fight. Now rare equipment is a huge loss in stats compared to exotics to ascended.
Yeah but you cant assume thet he had none. The zerging one doesnt matter, coz well its zerging and throwing down AoE. It depends on what stats he got though, this goes for the solo person. With ZERO information on what his build was, what his stats were or what is gear was you can’t say that he was a zerker, he could very well have been a Hyrid build. I mean my build has like 60%+ Critical Damage and inside DS nearly 100% crit chance but that doesn’t mean my build is Zerker, well i could reach 75%+ if i really tried to adjust my gear and tweak here and there but oh well
The point is, You can’t assume that he is a Zerker build when you know nothing of his build. Outside of knowing that he doesnt run Weakening Shroud.
All these terrible assumptions and almost no balance changes have even happened since then. The video from July couldn’t even have any ascended weapons and the new one already said trinkets. The zerging one barely matters since even if he had full ascended it shouldn’t have changed his survivability much at all considering ascended armor wasn’t released yet if you really think ascended matters that much in a zerg fight. Now rare equipment is a huge loss in stats compared to exotics to ascended.
Yeah but you cant assume thet he had none. The zerging one doesnt matter, coz well its zerging and throwing down AoE. It depends on what stats he got though, this goes for the solo person. With ZERO information on what his build was, what his stats were or what is gear was you can’t say that he was a zerker, he could very well have been a Hyrid build. I mean my build has like 60%+ Critical Damage and inside DS nearly 100% crit chance but that doesn’t mean my build is Zerker, well i could reach 75%+ if i really tried to adjust my gear and tweak here and there but oh well
The point is, You can’t assume that he is a Zerker build when you know nothing of his build. Outside of knowing that he doesnt run Weakening Shroud.
I don’t understand why you think the specifics of his build actually matter since its actually effective on the screen. He is definitely in full berserker since once again look at his hp and then look at his damage especially outside of Death Shroud besides the fact the kitten video says he’s berserker in the title.
I don’t understand why you think the specifics of his build actually matter since its actually effective on the screen. He is definitely in full berserker since once again look at his hp and then look at his damage especially outside of Death Shroud besides the fact the kitten video says he’s berserker in the title.
Just seeing the weapons, Heal, Utility and Elite doesn’t show anything when it comes to it. You were the one saying about zerkers and everything just because one has “zerker” in a title of youtube video doesn’t mean much.
Like i said, i am far from Zerker on my build – yet i can still hit 5-6k+ Ghastly Claws and such – that doesn’t mean anything. He could be a Power/Precision/Toughness build – i wouldnt call having toughness in any stat as being a Zerker myself.
He killed 1 Ranger, 1 Engineer, 1 Thief, 2 Elementalists, 2 Mesmers, 1 Necromancer, 2 Guardians and 2 Warriors through the entire video not counting the group fight.
Ranger? Lol
Engineer arent that hard depending on build
Thief – You win some and lose some
Ele – meh. Depends on the build which they were Zerker
Mesmer – Again dependent on the build, weak against conditions
Necromancer – again dependent on the build
Guardians – They are mostly support/Bunker
Warrior – Meh, depends on the build
So again, it was decent but it wasn’t really THAT amazing.
Then comes to the group fights where he was largely ignored and allowed to do what ever he wanted.
and remember he said for every kill he got he died 10 times, well that would mean that he would have died ALOT just getting them solo kills.
Assumptions, assumptions, wait where have I heard that before? Didn’t I say that berserker was better since you shouldn’t be focused in a team fight. With your build if you are focused you wouldn’t be in Death Shroud for long if focused anyways just like him but he does far more damage outside of it even.
erm about the whole berserker thing i got a good example for u. my guild was gvging and we lost 1 and then won 6 rounds in a row. all our necros including me are wearing knights and berserk with cavaliers trinkets and yes we did get fovused hard. usually the other team had 4 -5 people only focusing on the necros and eles. then last round we decided to all go full berserk. yes i downed 2 of them but they all rallied as everyone died so fast. my necro on full berserk melts in seconds in a 15vs15.
u shouldn’t be focused?!? u will always be focused. every decent guild focuses the glasscannons right away a glass cannon ele can crit u with meteorshower for 7k a hit and a berserk necro is free kill for u as they are not fast enough to kite the zerg. with my mes i have to stay real far but at least i can blink away if the train rushes to the backline, but after that escaping is pretty tough. unless u outnumber your enemy having a lot of glass with u will not do u any good as they are all rallybots. they will down 5 and then they all rallie because one of their berserkers dies.
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He killed 1 Ranger, 1 Engineer, 1 Thief, 2 Elementalists, 2 Mesmers, 1 Necromancer, 2 Guardians and 2 Warriors through the entire video not counting the group fight.
Ranger? Lol
Engineer arent that hard depending on build
Thief – You win some and lose some
Ele – meh. Depends on the build which they were Zerker
Mesmer – Again dependent on the build, weak against conditions
Necromancer – again dependent on the build
Guardians – They are mostly support/Bunker
Warrior – Meh, depends on the build
So again, it was decent but it wasn’t really THAT amazing.
Then comes to the group fights where he was largely ignored and allowed to do what ever he wanted.
and remember he said for every kill he got he died 10 times, well that would mean that he would have died ALOT just getting them solo kills.
Assumptions, assumptions, wait where have I heard that before? Didn’t I say that berserker was better since you shouldn’t be focused in a team fight. With your build if you are focused you wouldn’t be in Death Shroud for long if focused anyways just like him but he does far more damage outside of it even.
erm about the whole berserker thing i got a good example for u. my guild was gvging and we lost 1 and then won 6 rounds in a row. all our necros including me are wearing knights and berserk with cavaliers trinkets and yes we did get fovused hard. usually the other team had 4 -5 people only focusing on the necros and eles. then last round we decided to all go full berserk. yes i downed 2 of them but they all rallied as everyone died so fast. my necro on full berserk melts in seconds in a 15vs15.
u shouldn’t be focused?!? u will always be focused. every decent guild focuses the glasscannons right away a glass cannon ele can crit u with meteorshower for 7k a hit and a berserk necro is free kill for u as they are not fast enough to kite the zerg. with my mes i have to stay real far but at least i can blink away if the train rushes to the backline, but after that escaping is pretty tough. unless u outnumber your enemy having a lot of glass with u will not do u any good as they are all rallybots. they will down 5 and then they all rallie because one of their berserkers dies.
Learn to position/get gud. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCZCfxE-_Hs This guy uses knights and has no problems. I said berserker is for small group fights or less and zerging for Necromancer and Thieves. Against competitive groups of equal size only Thieves should ever use zerker since the enemy should be smart enough to go for the squishy hard hitting Necromancer as soon as they see him. 5 vs 5s and less you still have the damage and health to easily survive in Lich Form and Death Shroud with berserkers over any of your other allies.
I don’t understand why you think the specifics of his build actually matter since its actually effective on the screen. He is definitely in full berserker since once again look at his hp and then look at his damage especially outside of Death Shroud besides the fact the kitten video says he’s berserker in the title.
Just seeing the weapons, Heal, Utility and Elite doesn’t show anything when it comes to it. You were the one saying about zerkers and everything just because one has “zerker” in a title of youtube video doesn’t mean much.
Like i said, i am far from Zerker on my build – yet i can still hit 5-6k+ Ghastly Claws and such – that doesn’t mean anything. He could be a Power/Precision/Toughness build – i wouldnt call having toughness in any stat as being a Zerker myself.
I’m sure they are referring their fan fiction we don’t know about where they play a manly human berserker Necromancer, definitely not the stat set they are using. Please show me someone hit for an 8k Ghastly Claws with knights gear.
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I’m sure they are referring their fan fiction we don’t know about where they play a manly human berserker Necromancer, definitely not the stat set they are using. Please show me someone hit for an 8k Ghastly Claws with knights gear.
he did that ONCE during the whole video. While the person had loads of conditions on him. Could have had the 25point trait Target The Weak also the trait that increases damage when they are under 50% health, trait that increases damage while above 50% Life Force. Several times he did 2-4k damage via it.
I’m sure they are referring their fan fiction we don’t know about where they play a manly human berserker Necromancer, definitely not the stat set they are using. Please show me someone hit for an 8k Ghastly Claws with knights gear.
he did that ONCE during the whole video. While the person had loads of conditions on him. Could have had the 25point trait Target The Weak. Several times he did 2-4k damage via it.
Situations differ…
7 stacks of vulnerability and 0 might is loads of damage. Pretty sure your build has more might and vulnerability either way.
He killed 1 Ranger, 1 Engineer, 1 Thief, 2 Elementalists, 2 Mesmers, 1 Necromancer, 2 Guardians and 2 Warriors through the entire video not counting the group fight.
Ranger? Lol
Engineer arent that hard depending on build
Thief – You win some and lose some
Ele – meh. Depends on the build which they were Zerker
Mesmer – Again dependent on the build, weak against conditions
Necromancer – again dependent on the build
Guardians – They are mostly support/Bunker
Warrior – Meh, depends on the build
So again, it was decent but it wasn’t really THAT amazing.
Then comes to the group fights where he was largely ignored and allowed to do what ever he wanted.
and remember he said for every kill he got he died 10 times, well that would mean that he would have died ALOT just getting them solo kills.
Assumptions, assumptions, wait where have I heard that before? Didn’t I say that berserker was better since you shouldn’t be focused in a team fight. With your build if you are focused you wouldn’t be in Death Shroud for long if focused anyways just like him but he does far more damage outside of it even.
erm about the whole berserker thing i got a good example for u. my guild was gvging and we lost 1 and then won 6 rounds in a row. all our necros including me are wearing knights and berserk with cavaliers trinkets and yes we did get fovused hard. usually the other team had 4 -5 people only focusing on the necros and eles. then last round we decided to all go full berserk. yes i downed 2 of them but they all rallied as everyone died so fast. my necro on full berserk melts in seconds in a 15vs15.
u shouldn’t be focused?!? u will always be focused. every decent guild focuses the glasscannons right away a glass cannon ele can crit u with meteorshower for 7k a hit and a berserk necro is free kill for u as they are not fast enough to kite the zerg. with my mes i have to stay real far but at least i can blink away if the train rushes to the backline, but after that escaping is pretty tough. unless u outnumber your enemy having a lot of glass with u will not do u any good as they are all rallybots. they will down 5 and then they all rallie because one of their berserkers dies.
Learn to position/get gud. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCZCfxE-_Hs This guy uses knights and has no problems. I said berserker is for small group fights or less and zerging for Necromancer and Thieves. Against competitive groups of equal size only Thieves should ever use zerker since the enemy should be smart enough to go for the squishy hard hitting Necromancer as soon as they see him. 5 vs 5s and less you still have the damage and health to easily survive in Lich Form and Death Shroud with berserkers over any of your other allies.
ok watched the video. this necro is with a large zerg running around. of course he has no problems as they also outnumber the enmy in most of the fights. now im in a guild that does the opposite of that. we fight 35+ with around 18 people, so if anyone wears berserker the guild leader will yell at him,call him a scrub and send him to get some more toughness gear. of course casters have to know how to position themselves. i know how to position myself with my mes and with my necro, but u never know how the fight turns out, the enemy could show up with a second zerg from behind, the other server could show up with another zerg..soo yeah these videos show all the glorious moments, but im sure there were a ton of terrible moments which u will never see. that berserk necro and yeah i checked his videos and he is full berserk apart from the amulet, im sure he died many many times and got one or 2 shot by a thief many many many times too. u can position yourself all u want, but in the end u also gotta need luck and skill to survive.
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7 stacks of vulnerability and 0 might is loads of damage.
7 stacks of Vul is 7% extra damage alone. Then you have to consider other traits he has that increase damage.
Target The Weak = 2% extra damage per condition on foe
Strength of Undeath = 5% increased damage when above 50% Life Force
Close To Death = 20% Extra damage when they are bellow 50% health
He killed 1 Ranger, 1 Engineer, 1 Thief, 2 Elementalists, 2 Mesmers, 1 Necromancer, 2 Guardians and 2 Warriors through the entire video not counting the group fight.
Ranger? Lol
Engineer arent that hard depending on build
Thief – You win some and lose some
Ele – meh. Depends on the build which they were Zerker
Mesmer – Again dependent on the build, weak against conditions
Necromancer – again dependent on the build
Guardians – They are mostly support/Bunker
Warrior – Meh, depends on the build
So again, it was decent but it wasn’t really THAT amazing.
Then comes to the group fights where he was largely ignored and allowed to do what ever he wanted.
and remember he said for every kill he got he died 10 times, well that would mean that he would have died ALOT just getting them solo kills.
Assumptions, assumptions, wait where have I heard that before? Didn’t I say that berserker was better since you shouldn’t be focused in a team fight. With your build if you are focused you wouldn’t be in Death Shroud for long if focused anyways just like him but he does far more damage outside of it even.
erm about the whole berserker thing i got a good example for u. my guild was gvging and we lost 1 and then won 6 rounds in a row. all our necros including me are wearing knights and berserk with cavaliers trinkets and yes we did get fovused hard. usually the other team had 4 -5 people only focusing on the necros and eles. then last round we decided to all go full berserk. yes i downed 2 of them but they all rallied as everyone died so fast. my necro on full berserk melts in seconds in a 15vs15.
u shouldn’t be focused?!? u will always be focused. every decent guild focuses the glasscannons right away a glass cannon ele can crit u with meteorshower for 7k a hit and a berserk necro is free kill for u as they are not fast enough to kite the zerg. with my mes i have to stay real far but at least i can blink away if the train rushes to the backline, but after that escaping is pretty tough. unless u outnumber your enemy having a lot of glass with u will not do u any good as they are all rallybots. they will down 5 and then they all rallie because one of their berserkers dies.
Learn to position/get gud. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCZCfxE-_Hs This guy uses knights and has no problems. I said berserker is for small group fights or less and zerging for Necromancer and Thieves. Against competitive groups of equal size only Thieves should ever use zerker since the enemy should be smart enough to go for the squishy hard hitting Necromancer as soon as they see him. 5 vs 5s and less you still have the damage and health to easily survive in Lich Form and Death Shroud with berserkers over any of your other allies.
ok watched the video. this necro is with a large zerg running around. of course he has no problems as they also outnumber the enmy in most of the fights. now im in a guild that does the opposite of that. we fight 35+ with around 18 people, so if anyone wears berserker the guild leader will yell at him,call him a scrub and send him to get some more toughness gear. of course casters have to know how to position themselves. i know how to position myself with my mes and with my necro, but u never know how the fight turns out, the enemy could show up with a second zerg from behind, the other server could show up with another zerg..soo yeah these videos show all the glorious moments, but im sure there were a ton of terrible moments which u will never see. that berserk necro and yeah i checked his videos and he is full berserk apart from the amulet, im sure he died many many times and got one or 2 shot by a thief many many many times too. u can position yourself all u want, but in the end u also gotta need luck and skill to survive.
When did I ever mention that berserkers would be good with a huge number disadvantage or when did you ever say that the enemy had one. Roaming and zerging is completely different as I said that’s why you need different builds gear for it unless you are a Thief or bad Necromancer and again this is only about power builds not condition that can take the same anywhere.
7 stacks of vulnerability and 0 might is loads of damage.
7 stacks of Vul is 7% extra damage alone. Then you have to consider other traits he has that increase damage.
Target The Weak = 2% extra damage per condition on foe
Strength of Undeath = 5% increased damage when above 50% Life Force
Close To Death = 20% Extra damage when they are bellow 50% health
Any 2 of those is possible in a build
Still not even seeing the point of any of this either way since you can get the same traits. I’m sure again though that his video was named after his fan fiction and that he wrote it in English but not the video. Naming it after the stat set would be madness.
Still not even seeing the point of any of this either way since you can get the same traits. I’m sure again though that his video was named after his fan fiction and that he wrote it in English but not the video. Naming it after the stat set would be madness.
The point being that most of the time his attacks were “average” for a Zerker build, sure he got a couple of high attacks with it but plenty of ways that can be accounted for. The rest of his Ghastly Claws were normal hitting between 3-6k is what most builds can obtain, even none zerker builds.
Also, again you were the one that said about him calling it Zerker in the video title, that means NOTHING for the actual build, hell i could make a build with full Cleric armor and have Zerker in the title, does that mean its zerker? of course not.
Still not even seeing the point of any of this either way since you can get the same traits. I’m sure again though that his video was named after his fan fiction and that he wrote it in English but not the video. Naming it after the stat set would be madness.
The point being that most of the time his attacks were “average” for a Zerker build, sure he got a couple of high attacks with it but plenty of ways that can be accounted for. The rest of his Ghastly Claws were normal hitting between 3-6k is what most builds can obtain, even none zerker builds.
Also, again you were the one that said about him calling it Zerker in the video title, that means NOTHING for the actual build, hell i could make a build with full Cleric armor and have Zerker in the title, does that mean its zerker? of course not.
I’m sure he was trolling lololol opposite day video titles. First usage he fought against a tank Warrior. Second usage he started the cast out of range against the Ranger. Third usage was the 8k against the Mesmer. Fourth usage you don’t see the damage since the Mesmer stealthed. Fifth usage it was another tank Warrior.
@glaphen Also, anybody running full zerk in large scale fights is nothing more than a rally bot. It might be fine for roaming and duels but once the blobs collide you are nothing more than a liability.
Depending on class it isnt even viable as a roamer, Necromancer being an example. While they may do more damage they come with no where near the number of defenses as all other classes come with. Hell, we don’t even have ANY access to Vigor.
Just because you are a bad Necromancer and a bad player does not mean other are.
Even guys like Nemesis, which had defended necro and try to help other players for a long period of time, is giving up on the necro class. I will take his opinion over yours any day.
Power builds should carry both zerker and pvt on them for WvW. Mesmers and Thieves do not need support to destroy people in the back line nor do they take long to get there. Mesmers should be in PVT for zergs but are terrible for roaming if they don’t use berserkers.
Give it up already, you have NO idea what you are talking about. I have seen PLENTY of very good Mesmers do roaming without using Berserker gear. It is NOT the be all and end all of gear.
99% of the player base is bad just like you. It might work on morons but not anyone with half a brain nor is it even close to the most effective.
Sir, did you just insulted 99% of the player base?
Necromancer looks so bad that he can do this without food and leaving out Lich Form clips.
Impressive. Too bad this solo roaming necromancer will be kick from professional WvW guilds for running zerker and not running with the zerg.
Why??? He was so awesome at killing other glass cannons!!!!
In that whole video, he contributed a grand total of ZERO points to his server. That’s why. I didn’t watch the whole video so maybe he helped flipped a few camps. But his main goal is solo killing, which does nothing for the match itself.
Havoc teams of professional WvW guilds doesn’t run zerker neither. Why? Because they spent most of their time with their zerg, and only havoc when the commander specifically ordered them to. In a zerg fight and under enemy siege weapons, zerker gear gets killed in 5 seconds.
If you played WvW, you know exactly what I am talking about. In every zerg fight there are those guys who dies in 5 seconds. Zerker gear glass cannons are useless in zerg fights.
BTW, that video was pre-nerf. Necro right now is weaker than Aug 2012.
Come on are seriously implying you don’t even know the class you have more experience on me with? Weakening Shroud has an obvious animation when they enter Death Shroud, now watch the video and tell me where it is.
Stop assuming that he could have lived through any of that without proper positioning or even done 1/1000 of the damage he did if he sat in his zerg.
Yeah, try that against players that Immbo, chill you and such, easy to do in zergs and it USED to be useful. Now, not so much.
Also, i gave ONE example of a nerf to conditions that hurt power builds – i am sure i could give you a couple more that have hurt even just power staff using builds as well.
He could have EASILY done the same damage in the first fight. I mean, all he did was move to the side away from his zerg who didnt even have anyone get downed, spammed a few marks and then went into DS – he could have EASILY done the same from being close to his zerg.
The one on the wall was pretty good, but to assume he did all the work. Not quite.
The guy in the video didn’t use staff so it isn’t relevant at all.
You seriously underestimate the importance of positioning in a fight. Sure the hammer train Warriors and Guardians don’t need positioning they just need to stick with their zerg as close as possible. The rest of the classes have their own place in the fight and the best spot is usually not inside the train.
Did you just say that the mages get to stay behind while the warriors and guardians charge in with the commander? LMAO! Sorry mate but if your commander allows this, then he doesn’t know what he is doing.
If you don’t move with your commander, who is responsible for helping his zerg avoid incoming damages, you will be dead in seconds.
What positioning? You should let your commander worry about that. You only job is to stay on your commander 24/7 without question. If you cannot survive what he can survive then you need better tanking gear.
You are clearly a sPvPer. Don’t get me wrong I have no disrespect for sPvPers. But please don’t try to bring your sPvP experience into WvW. It is a different world.
It is pretty obvious that less skilled players need more “buffer” via vit, toughness and as many other players around as possible. “Professional WvW” guilds mostly consist of baddies following a blue dorito and spamming ae.
Glaphen is completely right, the rest is just denying truth, because it would hurt their carebear egos to admit. Why is it so hard for MMO gamers to admit they`re terrible? In RTS and fighting games, most players honestly accept they`re scrubs, because thats usually the first step to improve and get better…
Come on are seriously implying you don’t even know the class you have more experience on me with? Weakening Shroud has an obvious animation when they enter Death Shroud, now watch the video and tell me where it is.
Stop assuming that he could have lived through any of that without proper positioning or even done 1/1000 of the damage he did if he sat in his zerg.
Yeah, try that against players that Immbo, chill you and such, easy to do in zergs and it USED to be useful. Now, not so much.
Also, i gave ONE example of a nerf to conditions that hurt power builds – i am sure i could give you a couple more that have hurt even just power staff using builds as well.
He could have EASILY done the same damage in the first fight. I mean, all he did was move to the side away from his zerg who didnt even have anyone get downed, spammed a few marks and then went into DS – he could have EASILY done the same from being close to his zerg.
The one on the wall was pretty good, but to assume he did all the work. Not quite.
The guy in the video didn’t use staff so it isn’t relevant at all.
You seriously underestimate the importance of positioning in a fight. Sure the hammer train Warriors and Guardians don’t need positioning they just need to stick with their zerg as close as possible. The rest of the classes have their own place in the fight and the best spot is usually not inside the train.
Did you just say that the mages get to stay behind while the warriors and guardians charge in with the commander? LMAO! Sorry mate but if your commander allows this, then he doesn’t know what he is doing.
If you don’t move with your commander, who is responsible for helping his zerg avoid incoming damages, you will be dead in seconds.
What positioning? You should let your commander worry about that. You only job is to stay on your commander 24/7 without question. If you cannot survive what he can survive then you need better tanking gear.
You are clearly a sPvPer. Don’t get me wrong I have no disrespect for sPvPers. But please don’t try to bring your sPvP experience into WvW. It is a different world.
You can run full PVT and pop people hard with Necromancer while in Deathshroud, I’ve done it on mine after the changes… 5k and 6k damage is very very easy to do.
Also Necromancers are way way way better then they were last year…Not even close.
Come on are seriously implying you don’t even know the class you have more experience on me with? Weakening Shroud has an obvious animation when they enter Death Shroud, now watch the video and tell me where it is.
Stop assuming that he could have lived through any of that without proper positioning or even done 1/1000 of the damage he did if he sat in his zerg.
Yeah, try that against players that Immbo, chill you and such, easy to do in zergs and it USED to be useful. Now, not so much.
Also, i gave ONE example of a nerf to conditions that hurt power builds – i am sure i could give you a couple more that have hurt even just power staff using builds as well.
He could have EASILY done the same damage in the first fight. I mean, all he did was move to the side away from his zerg who didnt even have anyone get downed, spammed a few marks and then went into DS – he could have EASILY done the same from being close to his zerg.
The one on the wall was pretty good, but to assume he did all the work. Not quite.
The guy in the video didn’t use staff so it isn’t relevant at all.
You seriously underestimate the importance of positioning in a fight. Sure the hammer train Warriors and Guardians don’t need positioning they just need to stick with their zerg as close as possible. The rest of the classes have their own place in the fight and the best spot is usually not inside the train.
Did you just say that the mages get to stay behind while the warriors and guardians charge in with the commander? LMAO! Sorry mate but if your commander allows this, then he doesn’t know what he is doing.
If you don’t move with your commander, who is responsible for helping his zerg avoid incoming damages, you will be dead in seconds.
What positioning? You should let your commander worry about that. You only job is to stay on your commander 24/7 without question. If you cannot survive what he can survive then you need better tanking gear.
You are clearly a sPvPer. Don’t get me wrong I have no disrespect for sPvPers. But please don’t try to bring your sPvP experience into WvW. It is a different world.
You can run full PVT and pop people hard with Necromancer while in Deathshroud, I’ve done it on mine after the changes… 5k and 6k damage is very very easy to do.
Also Necromancers are way way way better then they were last year…Not even close.
The guy I was talking to is arguing Zerker gear on necro is great for WvW. He wasn’t talking about PVT.
And Nemesis has proven that the current necro’s damage output is worst than August 2012. And the necro didn’t get nearly enough additional survivability to make up for their losses in damage.
It is pretty obvious that less skilled players need more “buffer” via vit, toughness and as many other players around as possible. “Professional WvW” guilds mostly consist of baddies following a blue dorito and spamming ae.
Glaphen is completely right, the rest is just denying truth, because it would hurt their carebear egos to admit. Why is it so hard for MMO gamers to admit they`re terrible? In RTS and fighting games, most players honestly accept they`re scrubs, because thats usually the first step to improve and get better…
Sir, did you just insulted all players of tier 1 and 2?
It is pretty obvious that less skilled players need more “buffer” via vit, toughness and as many other players around as possible. “Professional WvW” guilds mostly consist of baddies following a blue dorito and spamming ae.
Glaphen is completely right, the rest is just denying truth, because it would hurt their carebear egos to admit. Why is it so hard for MMO gamers to admit they`re terrible? In RTS and fighting games, most players honestly accept they`re scrubs, because thats usually the first step to improve and get better…
lolololo well good luck with your glass cannon build in a 30+ zerg fight. all it takes is 1 zerker ele hitting u. even with 1400 toughness u get 7 k dmg per metorshower hit. then there is the ac’s and the perma stuns and immobilize. lol good luck. and please post the video here. glaphen is so wrong with so many things that it deserves a facepalm. u and him same person dif account?
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The king of oneliners is back! You were missed. I fail myself into top200 teamQ within a few games whenever I`ll give it a shot, but you`re right, wvw ganking is best!
Sir, did you just insulted 99% of the player base?
Just give up, it is useless trying to explain even the simplest of things to him me and several others have tried. You should see back through the pages about all the comments he made – he actually thinks Dark Path is amazing and is proof – a 5minute video lol
Ok, I see you guys live in another world, in which honest assessment is called “insult” and wvw tiers stand for quality gaming….
Whatever floats your boat, guys. Spam that “1” key really hard, I believe in you!
lol how do go from not being berserk gear, because i melt in a zerg, to 1111 spamming. im a mes and if i mindlesslt run into a zerg my great pvt/knights gear will not help me at all.
going into a zerg full berserk in t1 or t2 will destroy u no matter what. any coordianted guild will stomp u in seconds and gues what?u can position all u want but coordinated groups spot a glasscannon and focus it. good luck running away on your glass necro.
ive seen glass cannon zergs before. yest they can hit hard, but all it takes is 1 lightningfield right in your middle and boom youre done.
maybe u face small groups like 15 but in tier1- t3 u will see far bigger than that
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I dunno, lots of people have tried both eu and na and the common conclusion was that na is quite a bit behind eu skill level and meta, talking both wvw and tpvp (i.e. PAX qualifiers & event). Haven`t tried na myself, tho.
However, I heard lower tier roaming quality in na is superb, but that`s another issue.
Come on are seriously implying you don’t even know the class you have more experience on me with? Weakening Shroud has an obvious animation when they enter Death Shroud, now watch the video and tell me where it is.
Stop assuming that he could have lived through any of that without proper positioning or even done 1/1000 of the damage he did if he sat in his zerg.
Yeah, try that against players that Immbo, chill you and such, easy to do in zergs and it USED to be useful. Now, not so much.
Also, i gave ONE example of a nerf to conditions that hurt power builds – i am sure i could give you a couple more that have hurt even just power staff using builds as well.
He could have EASILY done the same damage in the first fight. I mean, all he did was move to the side away from his zerg who didnt even have anyone get downed, spammed a few marks and then went into DS – he could have EASILY done the same from being close to his zerg.
The one on the wall was pretty good, but to assume he did all the work. Not quite.
The guy in the video didn’t use staff so it isn’t relevant at all.
You seriously underestimate the importance of positioning in a fight. Sure the hammer train Warriors and Guardians don’t need positioning they just need to stick with their zerg as close as possible. The rest of the classes have their own place in the fight and the best spot is usually not inside the train.
Did you just say that the mages get to stay behind while the warriors and guardians charge in with the commander? LMAO! Sorry mate but if your commander allows this, then he doesn’t know what he is doing.
If you don’t move with your commander, who is responsible for helping his zerg avoid incoming damages, you will be dead in seconds.
What positioning? You should let your commander worry about that. You only job is to stay on your commander 24/7 without question. If you cannot survive what he can survive then you need better tanking gear.
You are clearly a sPvPer. Don’t get me wrong I have no disrespect for sPvPers. But please don’t try to bring your sPvP experience into WvW. It is a different world.
You can run full PVT and pop people hard with Necromancer while in Deathshroud, I’ve done it on mine after the changes… 5k and 6k damage is very very easy to do.
Also Necromancers are way way way better then they were last year…Not even close.
The guy I was talking to is arguing Zerker gear on necro is great for WvW. He wasn’t talking about PVT.
And Nemesis has proven that the current necro’s damage output is worst than August 2012. And the necro didn’t get nearly enough additional survivability to make up for their losses in damage.
I think you underestimate how much survivability and damage you’ve gotten.
My Ranger didn’t have any trouble against Necro’s up until a few patches ago, Now they’re incredibly scary to fight.
So scary I basically have to kite them around till I get them low enough for the kill.
I dunno, lots of people have tried both eu and na and the common conclusion was that na is quite a bit behind eu skill level and meta, talking both wvw and tpvp (i.e. PAX qualifiers & event). Haven`t tried na myself, tho.
However, I heard lower tier roaming quality in na is superb, but that`s another issue.
actually in na u will find a lot of amazing guilds. i’ve met amazing opponents that dont zerg. but again the blob meta is very intense here and thats why zergbusting groups are soo much fun to play.also u will find some good roamer depending on the server. in spvp though i’ve heard about eu guilds and players are amazing. .
but if u look at the video u see how we are only a small group in the beginning. if u are wearing glass vs 2 servers double teaming the lordsroom and walls and everything, believe me a zerker dies first push. im not saying go full toughness only. mix some knights in there and some berserk weapons or so, but be tough enough for such situations as berserk will melt.
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Alright please tell me where in that video did his health ever drop below half? He died once but revived nearly instantly afterwards. He could have been in zerker that whole time and it would have only killed the enemy faster with how bad that enemy zerg was. What a surprise like I said positioning is the most important factor. Also yes 99% of the player base is absolutely terrible at this game.
The king of oneliners is back! You were missed. I fail myself into top200 teamQ within a few games whenever I`ll give it a shot, but you`re right, wvw ganking is best!
omg i just realized that u are from eu. sry. i know in eu servers things are little different and i dont mean that as an insult. ive noticed that during beta testing eotm map. my necro kept 2 shotting d/d eles and other glass cannons when i figured out that u guys were all eu.
well on na servers meta is hammertrain and if you are glass, you’re toast! simple. i run with a zergbusting guild and with our 15-18 players we take down zergs 35-kitten we are no 111 spammers. yes casters will kite the zerg, but none is allowed to run glass as it is considered a rallybot.
try to glass cannon in this (15 vs 2 zergs attacking at the same time)
The king of oneliners is back! You were missed. I fail myself into top200 teamQ within a few games whenever I`ll give it a shot, but you`re right, wvw ganking is best!
omg i just realized that u are from eu. sry. i know in eu servers things are little different and i dont mean that as an insult. ive noticed that during beta testing eotm map. my necro kept 2 shotting d/d eles and other glass cannons when i figured out that u guys were all eu.
well on na servers meta is hammertrain and if you are glass, you’re toast! simple. i run with a zergbusting guild and with our 15-18 players we take down zergs 35-kitten we are no 111 spammers. yes casters will kite the zerg, but none is allowed to run glass as it is considered a rallybot.
try to glass cannon in this (15 vs 2 zergs attacking at the same time)
Alright please tell me where in that video did his health ever drop below half? He died once but revived nearly instantly afterwards. He could have been in zerker that whole time and it would have only killed the enemy faster with how bad that enemy zerg was. What a surprise like I said positioning is the most important factor. Also yes 99% of the player base is absolutely terrible at this game.
nah he got downed because of all the dmg he took. and no as berserk he would have died right from the bad even with tons of waters. which we have btw. and we all do have dps all of us. yes he got downed once withing 2 hours fighting vs endless attacks.
idk which server u from, but if u check the vid again u see aoe all over the place. hes is a war so he is frontline. but if u are glass u still need to be somewhat close to the rest of the group or u wont get buffs or healing when u need it. u can position yourself all u want but that lordsroom was filled with enemies nonstop and ac and aoe. i was on my mes. a light armor that is squishy and im not full pvt at all. i have 2.1k power with 24k health and 1.6k toughness. if i was berserk, i would be 18k health, 1k toughness and 2.4k power with 103% critical dmg. but i need that toughness and vitality in order to survive. otherwise i get 1shot. the videos u showed the guy was ignored by his enemies if he would have been focused, he would have melted.
so im sure that u are 1 of those that are part of that 99% then if u state things like mes takes no retal dmg all his clones do that for him and berserk in that fight would have been great.
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The king of oneliners is back! You were missed. I fail myself into top200 teamQ within a few games whenever I`ll give it a shot, but you`re right, wvw ganking is best!
omg i just realized that u are from eu. sry. i know in eu servers things are little different and i dont mean that as an insult. ive noticed that during beta testing eotm map. my necro kept 2 shotting d/d eles and other glass cannons when i figured out that u guys were all eu.
well on na servers meta is hammertrain and if you are glass, you’re toast! simple. i run with a zergbusting guild and with our 15-18 players we take down zergs 35-kitten we are no 111 spammers. yes casters will kite the zerg, but none is allowed to run glass as it is considered a rallybot.
try to glass cannon in this (15 vs 2 zergs attacking at the same time)
when ever did i say dps doesnt work ever?dps is most important but like i said u need some toughness to go with it or u are dead. the video is fun to watch, but again their enemy is pretty bad though. they didnt make great use of water, veil or cc or boonstripping.
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Alright now watch the video once again and tell me if he ever goes below 80% of his life remaining besides the one time he got downed and revived 2 seconds later from all the tags dying.
The king of oneliners is back! You were missed. I fail myself into top200 teamQ within a few games whenever I`ll give it a shot, but you`re right, wvw ganking is best!
omg i just realized that u are from eu. sry. i know in eu servers things are little different and i dont mean that as an insult. ive noticed that during beta testing eotm map. my necro kept 2 shotting d/d eles and other glass cannons when i figured out that u guys were all eu.
well on na servers meta is hammertrain and if you are glass, you’re toast! simple. i run with a zergbusting guild and with our 15-18 players we take down zergs 35-kitten we are no 111 spammers. yes casters will kite the zerg, but none is allowed to run glass as it is considered a rallybot.
try to glass cannon in this (15 vs 2 zergs attacking at the same time)
when ever did i say dps doesnt work ever?dps is most important but like i said u need some toughness to go with it or u are dead. the video is fun to watch, but again their enemy is pretty bad though. they didnt make great use of water, veil or cc or boonstripping.
Most of his stats are still from the trinkets+weapons so I don’t see your point. Trinkets and weapon slots give far more stats than the armor stats do. He gets 200 toughness from his armor, 200 from traits, and 180 from signet.
The king of oneliners is back! You were missed. I fail myself into top200 teamQ within a few games whenever I`ll give it a shot, but you`re right, wvw ganking is best!
omg i just realized that u are from eu. sry. i know in eu servers things are little different and i dont mean that as an insult. ive noticed that during beta testing eotm map. my necro kept 2 shotting d/d eles and other glass cannons when i figured out that u guys were all eu.
well on na servers meta is hammertrain and if you are glass, you’re toast! simple. i run with a zergbusting guild and with our 15-18 players we take down zergs 35-kitten we are no 111 spammers. yes casters will kite the zerg, but none is allowed to run glass as it is considered a rallybot.
try to glass cannon in this (15 vs 2 zergs attacking at the same time)
when ever did i say dps doesnt work ever?dps is most important but like i said u need some toughness to go with it or u are dead. the video is fun to watch, but again their enemy is pretty bad though. they didnt make great use of water, veil or cc or boonstripping.
Most of his stats are still from the trinkets+weapons so I don’t see your point. Trinkets and weapon slots give far more stats than the armor stats do. He gets 200 toughness from his armor, 200 from traits, and 180 from signet.
and 100 from the melandru rune and 200 already makes a difference plus u also get vitality with it which is important too. he has 5k more health
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