Actually you need to man up and go to the duel or stop talking smack.
Not even going to scroll back to read either of your posts, the game provides a clear venue for demonstrating your skills, time to get in the ring.
lol? Who the hell are you?
First of all, this is none of your concern. You have absolutely no business telling me such, especially after openly admitting that you haven’t read any of my posts. Secondly, dueling in a video game does not substitute for a legitimate argument and I have no interest or obligation to play with this person.
Do you have anything else you’d like to get shut down or are you done embarrassing yourself?
Its funny how everyone is bringing up Thief and mesmers as viable counters. And you STILL need a particular weapon set for it.
What if im a D/D or D/P thief, should I roll over and ide? What if I roll with GS/S/F mes. Same argument. And if I play ele and ranger??
D/D – Basi venom, CnD, backstab. CnD again for stealth, dancing dagger to cripple.
D/P – Stand in blind field, spam headshot to daze.
Mes is not an argument. If you’re getting caught with a mesmer then it’s for SURE a L2P issue. Elementalists can out heal literally everything with a decent build, and rangers can kite forever along with days of stability.
I agree with what he’s saying. Trying to make every weapon set equally viable against every other weapon is impossible. What does work is having some weapon sets/builds that counters another set/build. Mace + GS may be strong vs. the current meta that has a lot of offensive utilities and build fairly glassy, but it’s weak against builds that focus on power, teleports, stealth, etc.
Necros and Engis seem pretty OP because it’s stronger in more situations than most builds, but the fact that Warriors can build to counter those builds. If TPvP teams started to bring a Warrior dedicated to killing Condis and are successful that may force them to run something different or change their team composition to account for that Warrior. Something like switching out a Necro for a Mesmer or Thief that is dedicated to keeping the Warrior off the Condi dealer.
It’s unreasonable to expect a perfect balance where every class has an equal chance against each other. If fact, having certain specs being able to mostly counter others keeps the meta fresh which is something we sorely need now. I hope more big teams start bringing a Mace or Hammer warrior to force some change.
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Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)
If this is really that overpowered then just go ahead and make a PVP ONLY nerf to shield or mace none is ever using this combo in pve so that pretty much speak for itself.
Here you go, this is why the build is OP, it can wreck people in 1v2 and 1v1 settings. He casually made it home even when 4 people got to him. Im sorry but this is plain OP.
The biggest offenders are signet of healing and poultry soup.
Here you go, this is why the build is OP, it can wreck people in 1v2 and 1v1 settings. He casually made it home even when 4 people got to him. Im sorry but this is plain OP.
The biggest offenders are signet of healing and poultry soup.
This needs a nerf
2 up-levels, a pistol thief with no condi damage, and a guardian who can’t keep up? He isn’t even taking any damage. Healing Signet isn’t to blame, his opponents are.
The other fights were against backpedaling necros and mesmers who used GS in melee range… these were bad players… who knows what their builds looked like…
Signet and Lemongrass may or may not be OP, but this video proves nothing.
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Bullkitten. Check the last fight, vs 4 people. No matter how skilled you are you can’t hope to troll around wvw with that many people wailing at you and coming out unscathed. Do you understand that any of his opponent in 1v1 STOOD NO CHANCE?
Its 1 thing to be able to beat someone 1v1, its another when your opponent might as well drop dead. Don’t be so biased please. 550hp/sec regen on signet of healing is OP no matter how look at it.
Bullkitten. Check the last fight, vs 4 people. No matter how skilled you are you can’t hope to troll around wvw with that many people wailing at you and coming out unscathed. Do you understand that any of his opponent in 1v1 STOOD NO CHANCE?
Its 1 thing to be able to beat someone 1v1, its another when your opponent might as well drop dead. Don’t be so biased please. 550hp/sec regen on signet of healing is OP no matter how look at it.
I kill warriors NP on my necro, hell 2 warriors NP and im pretty freaking bad on my necro.
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Bullkitten. Check the last fight, vs 4 people. No matter how skilled you are you can’t hope to troll around wvw with that many people wailing at you and coming out unscathed. Do you understand that any of his opponent in 1v1 STOOD NO CHANCE?
Its 1 thing to be able to beat someone 1v1, its another when your opponent might as well drop dead. Don’t be so biased please. 550hp/sec regen on signet of healing is OP no matter how look at it.
I kill warriors NP on my necro, hell 2 warriors NP and im pretty freaking bad on my necro.
Here you go, this is why the build is OP, it can wreck people in 1v2 and 1v1 settings. He casually made it home even when 4 people got to him. Im sorry but this is plain OP.
The biggest offenders are signet of healing and poultry soup.
This needs a nerf
oh we talking wvw then?
you could just:
1) use rare vegie pizza (cheaper than the soup wars have to use and completely negates its effects)
2) dodge the stun
3) use a stun break
4) stop playing upleveled characters: seriously, anyone can kill an upleveled character, they take like 2x the damage
So yah, what I saw in that was a lot of people using their skills poorly and the video cutting out when he probably died. As someone who likes to edit I could take clips of me smashing poor players on any build and edit it in in such a way that it would look OP and it wouldn’t be hard. Cherry-picked clips vs players that for the most part DIDN’T have food while he did proves nothing.
Your view on this seems to be in the minority because the only place you see Warriors frequently is SoloQ and I’m going to guess it’s because people just want to try them out just like everyone was a Necro or Spirit….owait there are still tons of those and you see them more often it Tourneys…odd.
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Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)
The stun duration is to long for being on such a short CD… all the counters being said on how to avoid it can be said about anything in this game, if that was the case to simply d/r, blind, stun break, use stability, ect ect nothing in this game should ever be nerf’d.
Regardless if Anet nerf’s it or not, i know i’ll continue to use and abuse it for as long as its viable to do so.
It was my video, and of you check the thread I added a description that I was merely showcasing sustain-and dmg with hammer. Doesn’t matter if they are up leveled or not, had I had mending or healing surge I would have dropped significantly quicker. And in the one clip I had a scout/guard on me +necro and Mesmer, up leveled or not they still do damage and I was taking none. I don’t even have any points in defense against guards. I didn’t edit anything.
Bullkitten. Check the last fight, vs 4 people. No matter how skilled you are you can’t hope to troll around wvw with that many people wailing at you and coming out unscathed. Do you understand that any of his opponent in 1v1 STOOD NO CHANCE?
Its 1 thing to be able to beat someone 1v1, its another when your opponent might as well drop dead. Don’t be so biased please. 550hp/sec regen on signet of healing is OP no matter how look at it.
550hp/s healing? Are you blind? Trolling? Trying to exaggerate to prove a point? His signet is healing 411 during the video.
Bullkitten. Check the last fight, vs 4 people. No matter how skilled you are you can’t hope to troll around wvw with that many people wailing at you and coming out unscathed. Do you understand that any of his opponent in 1v1 STOOD NO CHANCE?
Its 1 thing to be able to beat someone 1v1, its another when your opponent might as well drop dead. Don’t be so biased please. 550hp/sec regen on signet of healing is OP no matter how look at it.
550hp/s healing? Are you blind? Trolling? Trying to exaggerate to prove a point? His signet is healing 411 during the video.
He is.
“We also realize that we can make mistakes but we dont care because I HAVE THE POWAAA!!”
Its so predictable and easy to avoid. I bet warriors would still beat the people who are complaining even with a 50% extra cd on mace skill and halving its duration.
Don’t forget adrenal health ticking at 150hp/sec at full adrenaline. And we all know adrenaline comes easy at lvl 80 and 30 points in discipline.
Adrenal healing ticks every 3seconds not one second. And he is continuously using his burst skills for the hammer stun, so is spending very little time with full Adrenaline.
Don’t forget adrenal health ticking at 150hp/sec at full adrenaline. And we all know adrenaline comes easy at lvl 80 and 30 points in discipline.
Adrenal healing ticks every 3seconds not one second. And he is continuously using his burst skills for the hammer stun, so is spending very little time with full Adrenaline.
Yes, adrenal health every three secs, but then for 382,5 points or more. This are 127,5+ Points per sec.
So adrenal healing (128) + the signet (467 Points) heals you for 595+ Points every sec.
This based all on only 150 Healing Power.
The signet has a to low cd for this high healrate.
A heal of 7840 with 0 Points in HP within 20 sec, make it to the strongest healskill in this game.
Don’t forget adrenal health ticking at 150hp/sec at full adrenaline. And we all know adrenaline comes easy at lvl 80 and 30 points in discipline.
Adrenal healing ticks every 3seconds not one second. And he is continuously using his burst skills for the hammer stun, so is spending very little time with full Adrenaline.
Yes, adrenal health every three secs, but then for 360 points or more. This are 120+ Points per sec.
So adrenal healing + the signet heals you for 500+ Points every sec.
I’ll grant you that.. But again, in the video he was commenting on, the warrior spent almost no time at all with full Adrenaline (except when he was running away into his spawn). Any warrior actively fighting is using his burst skills and not reliably getting the full effect of Adrenal Healing.
Don’t forget adrenal health ticking at 150hp/sec at full adrenaline. And we all know adrenaline comes easy at lvl 80 and 30 points in discipline.
Adrenal healing ticks every 3seconds not one second. And he is continuously using his burst skills for the hammer stun, so is spending very little time with full Adrenaline.
Yes, adrenal health every three secs, but then for 360 points or more. This are 120+ Points per sec.
So adrenal healing + the signet heals you for 500+ Points every sec.
Just stop, you don’t know how violent these guys get when you start doing math. Save yourself the trouble and run away as fast as you can.
Here you go, this is why the build is OP, it can wreck people in 1v2 and 1v1 settings. He casually made it home even when 4 people got to him. Im sorry but this is plain OP.
The biggest offenders are signet of healing and poultry soup.
This needs a nerf
wow you have downs
the war has at least 20 in defense as well as 3 defense utilities and most likely def runes/food
he is fighting 2 up levels who for all we know are lvl 2 with white equipment a guard who cant even keep up to dmng him he just happens to be there doing nothing lol and a condi necro that the war has speced against
all this proves is that those 4 people are newbs
the fact that you think this is evidence that war is op just shows you don’t know any of the game mechanics in wvw or how gw2 combat works at all
Here you go, this is why the build is OP, it can wreck people in 1v2 and 1v1 settings. He casually made it home even when 4 people got to him. Im sorry but this is plain OP.
The biggest offenders are signet of healing and poultry soup.
This needs a nerf
wow you have downs
the war has at least 20 in defense as well as 3 defense utilities and most likely def runes/food
he is fighting 2 up levels who for all we know are lvl 2 with white equipment a guard who cant even keep up to dmng him he just happens to be there doing nothing lol and a condi necro that the war has speced against
all this proves is that those 4 people are newbs
the fact that you think this is evidence that war is op just shows you don’t know any of the game mechanics in wvw or how gw2 combat works at all
Here you go, this is why the build is OP, it can wreck people in 1v2 and 1v1 settings. He casually made it home even when 4 people got to him. Im sorry but this is plain OP.
The biggest offenders are signet of healing and poultry soup.
This needs a nerf
wow you have downs
the war has at least 20 in defense as well as 3 defense utilities and most likely def runes/food
he is fighting 2 up levels who for all we know are lvl 2 with white equipment a guard who cant even keep up to dmng him he just happens to be there doing nothing lol and a condi necro that the war has speced against
all this proves is that those 4 people are newbs
the fact that you think this is evidence that war is op just shows you don’t know any of the game mechanics in wvw or how gw2 combat works at all
Or the warrior is to strong.
cause we all know lvl 2 in white gear that are upleveled pressing 1 do so much dmng right?
Who would have guessed the folks who have been proven to have a gross misunderstanding of game mechanics would post a video “proving” that this build is OP, only to have said video be complete trash?
I would have guessed it. I did, to myself, then it happened.
Moving right along.
Ahahahhaa, I just watched it. I would be embarrassed if I used any videos like this proving any of my points that I’ve ever made about this game.
Alduin Nightsong, 80 Human Necro
“He’s like a man with a fork in a world of soup.”
Yes! Let’s nerf a build that is semi-useful in tpvp and spvp at most because
of wvw, which we all know is completely balanced at all!
edit: No, i don’t run this build. I did, however try it out and can confirm that
with food the healing is good but you are trading that in for no active healing
and even if you use the signett, you won’t be getting healed for 20 seconds and all that for ~3,5k. yay!
Plus, if the warrior goes with healing food, he is very vulnerable to being kited
due to no ranged options. Keep chilled/cripple applied and /lol as you
stomp him.
wow guys you rly are so….. against any good player who actually dodges or evades all those stuns or use massive stabilty he cant do anything.. and the problem in this video is not the warrior build and stuff its the enemy players(totaly wrong buiild. wrong gear probably all less then 3k armor and no skill)… i bet he had more running away or lose scenes in 1vsX then the wins a 1vsX.. if ppl dont learn how to play maybe we want to make this game an easy game for all the noobs which play in gw2? there you go esports
in few months/weeks ppl know how to counter it.. same was with the thiefs.. all qqed about them know they are so easy to beat because all ppl know how to fight them. same will happen to this warrior build
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How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
Kinda funny because when I am fighting people in wvw, even bads, they still manage to drop me at 50% health or so depending on the class, and I still have to try. Even on my thief or guard I still have to pay attention because not everyone is as bad as they appear.
This guy, he might as well stand there and take it for a good 2 min before he is at 50% life. If you think this is fine, you are delusional.
Allyour comments so far consists of either “he is fighting nubs” or “he is fighting uplvled”
The former MAY be true but still does not justify the fact the warrior takes no dmg the entire time and is able to escape from 4 people while never dropping below 50% health.
The later comment is downright false because he was fighting lvl 80s PLUS upleveled people at the same time. heck the first guy he fights is an 80 necro.
Kinda funny because when I am fighting people in wvw, even bads, they still manage to drop me at 50% health or so depending on the class, and I still have to try. Even on my thief or guard I still have to pay attention because not everyone is as bad as they appear.
This guy, he might as well stand there and take it for a good 2 min before he is at 50% life. If you think this is fine, you are delusional.
Allyour comments so far consists of either “he is fighting nubs” or “he is fighting uplvled”
The former MAY be true but still does not justify the fact the warrior takes no dmg the entire time and is able to escape from 4 people while never dropping below 50% health.
The later comment is downright false because he was fighting lvl 80s PLUS upleveled people at the same time. heck the first guy he fights is an 80 necro.
he is fighting a condi necro when he is running a anti condi build and for all we know those up levels are lvl 2 with all white gear n there not doing kitten but pressing one ,seriously how are so kittening stupid
The video although not to flame the creator as myself and many of my friends make pvp videos and i enjoy watching others and they do take some effort to make, is not a good representation when you have sub 80’s in it imo, id cut out the sub 80’s and just stick to lvl 80’s either 1v1 or 1vX’s only as it gives you the best opportunity to showcase, may they be good players or bad but its as even as it can get when they are the same lvl as you in WvW. only other option is to duel
Its like making a build for Tpvp and recording it in action just doing hot joins to promote its viability. To give a better point/showcasing would to be recording team tourneys to replicate as best a competitive/even setting as possible for example.
i can’t believe this thread is still going on. these guys are still not embarrassed enough?
“i think it’s an underserved nerf. now we have to slot a stun breaker??”
“berserker stance clears all CC on you and you’re still immune to CC for 8 seconds”
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Kinda funny because when I am fighting people in wvw, even bads, they still manage to drop me at 50% health or so depending on the class, and I still have to try. Even on my thief or guard I still have to pay attention because not everyone is as bad as they appear.
Whats funny is if I was fighting those 4 “bads” in the video on my Mesmer I most likely would have kill them all and not gotten close to 50% hp. WITHOUT running into spawn 10 times..
Kinda funny because when I am fighting people in wvw, even bads, they still manage to drop me at 50% health or so depending on the class, and I still have to try. Even on my thief or guard I still have to pay attention because not everyone is as bad as they appear.
This guy, he might as well stand there and take it for a good 2 min before he is at 50% life. If you think this is fine, you are delusional.
Allyour comments so far consists of either “he is fighting nubs” or “he is fighting uplvled”
The former MAY be true but still does not justify the fact the warrior takes no dmg the entire time and is able to escape from 4 people while never dropping below 50% health.
The later comment is downright false because he was fighting lvl 80s PLUS upleveled people at the same time. heck the first guy he fights is an 80 necro.
This post is so good when it hits the lips. People you decide are “bads” get you to 50% health and you still have to try. The first guy he fights “is an 80 necro”, except that’s about all you can say about the s-keying bad-spam that was that first fight.
I’ve escaped from a zerg of 10 people before. There’s absolutely no reason those 4 shouldn’t have been able to catch a M+Sh/Hammer warrior. None. Hell, one of the Warriors had a Sword MH, and he couldn’t catch him.
Just…. mmmmnumnumnumnumnum.
Alduin Nightsong, 80 Human Necro
“He’s like a man with a fork in a world of soup.”
Kinda funny because when I am fighting people in wvw, even bads, they still manage to drop me at 50% health or so depending on the class, and I still have to try. Even on my thief or guard I still have to pay attention because not everyone is as bad as they appear.
Whats funny is if I was fighting those 4 “bads” in the video on my Mesmer I most likely would have kill them all and not gotten close to 50% hp. WITHOUT running into spawn 10 times..
Kinda funny because when I am fighting people in wvw, even bads, they still manage to drop me at 50% health or so depending on the class, and I still have to try. Even on my thief or guard I still have to pay attention because not everyone is as bad as they appear.
This guy, he might as well stand there and take it for a good 2 min before he is at 50% life. If you think this is fine, you are delusional.
Allyour comments so far consists of either “he is fighting nubs” or “he is fighting uplvled”
The former MAY be true but still does not justify the fact the warrior takes no dmg the entire time and is able to escape from 4 people while never dropping below 50% health.
The later comment is downright false because he was fighting lvl 80s PLUS upleveled people at the same time. heck the first guy he fights is an 80 necro.
This post is so good when it hits the lips. People you decide are “bads” get you to 50% health and you still have to try. The first guy he fights “is an 80 necro”, except that’s about all you can say about the s-keying bad-spam that was that first fight.
I’ve escaped from a zerg of 10 people before. There’s absolutely no reason those 4 shouldn’t have been able to catch a M+Sh/Hammer warrior. None. Hell, one of the Warriors had a Sword MH, and he couldn’t catch him.
Just…. mmmmnumnumnumnumnum.
This is called game balance bro, unless someone is a lvl 2 uplvled nub there is no way you can get out of a fight unscathed. Look at the video again, notice the insane regen on the warrior. You can’t tell me its balanced
Kinda funny because when I am fighting people in wvw, even bads, they still manage to drop me at 50% health or so depending on the class, and I still have to try. Even on my thief or guard I still have to pay attention because not everyone is as bad as they appear.
Whats funny is if I was fighting those 4 “bads” in the video on my Mesmer I most likely would have kill them all and not gotten close to 50% hp. WITHOUT running into spawn 10 times..
Aren’t you posting on the wrong forums then?
No.. I’ve listed my 5 active characters in my signature long ago. Wow, would ya look at that I play a Warrior also..
Kinda funny because when I am fighting people in wvw, even bads, they still manage to drop me at 50% health or so depending on the class, and I still have to try. Even on my thief or guard I still have to pay attention because not everyone is as bad as they appear.
This guy, he might as well stand there and take it for a good 2 min before he is at 50% life. If you think this is fine, you are delusional.
Allyour comments so far consists of either “he is fighting nubs” or “he is fighting uplvled”
The former MAY be true but still does not justify the fact the warrior takes no dmg the entire time and is able to escape from 4 people while never dropping below 50% health.
The later comment is downright false because he was fighting lvl 80s PLUS upleveled people at the same time. heck the first guy he fights is an 80 necro.
This post is so good when it hits the lips. People you decide are “bads” get you to 50% health and you still have to try. The first guy he fights “is an 80 necro”, except that’s about all you can say about the s-keying bad-spam that was that first fight.
I’ve escaped from a zerg of 10 people before. There’s absolutely no reason those 4 shouldn’t have been able to catch a M+Sh/Hammer warrior. None. Hell, one of the Warriors had a Sword MH, and he couldn’t catch him.
Just…. mmmmnumnumnumnumnum.
This is called game balance bro, unless someone is a lvl 2 uplvled nub there is no way you can get out of a fight unscathed. Look at the video again, notice the insane regen on the warrior. You can’t tell me its balanced
Kinda like the insane heals/boons on guardians and eles? Or the insane every 8 second teleportation on a mesmer?
How about the insane perma/repeated stealth thieves and being able to do everything from stealth while staying stealthed?
Unlimited teleports/stun breakers for thiev’es shadow step on a weapon skill with zero cool down?
Mist form stomps? Aegis stomps? Shadowstep stomps? Stealth stomps and reviving?
Yea..how bad can you be to lose to the worst pvp class in the game..I know..very bad..
