Guild Wars 2

I’m looking for a PvP guild also
Would be awesome to play with teams over TS or mumble|

YeS!!!!!!!! Bank would rock :P

This map is super interesting as a concept, but yeah there’s a lot of problems.

Portal/gate most of the time throw you out instantly.
Glass panels, yeah one shot a lot.
Hammer, can’t be dodge or blocked.

I’d hate to see this map go away but I’d love to see it fixed!!!!

We need ANET to keep the map but just FIX them! :P

Chaba.5410:

Not sure I’m gonna find it, but I did find the video I had in mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZczwwJFVcMI&list=UUilf_HIRdBIRQp29nFiyJ-g

Thanks Chaba!

Locuz.2651:

Youre on the US, where they tend to be one meta behind :P

Why are you in all the post I post in? :p

Locuz.2651:

Gameplay evolving around 1 shots doesnt attract / scares away hardcore pvpers. There is no real depth or interesting gameplay in 1 shotting someone by pulling him from stealth.

Stability does nothing since there is no point to use it unless you see someone incoming….and you whont see it if he popped his stealth in time.

Ok. So, balancing maps instead of removing them would be a viable option right?

Locuz.2651:

Imagine if what you see in the link below happens every few seconds. Thats what some game are like on higher MMR . Mind that this is one of the most experienced eles in europe and former member of team paradigm.

http://www.twitch.tv/phantaram/c/3826867

That’s already the case :P And it’s why I added area knock backs and some stability. It’s true I can’t counter everything but it really helped.

Ugruk.4069:

You can dodge atacks that you can’t possibly now when they hit? You are really a boss.

Gotta give you that one.

Ugruk.4069:

Not really in the state of the game, they hardcounter you and that’s pretty much it.

I used to like PvP but now I’m kinda depress :p All my illusions are shattered.

Ugruk.4069:

Counter to immunities, wow you must be REALLY good.

Can you link the Condi Warrior build so I get what’s going on?

Ugruk.4069:

Pvp Should be about outplaying you opponent with skill not being able to play a kittened overpowered spec and win due to balance issues.

I’m starting to feel like there were always balance issues and there always will be.

I guess balancing maps instead of removing them is more what Id like to see.

For example : on capricorn they could just have added ground instead of water right?
And : Sky hammer, add some edges and remove some breakable floors.

Locuz.2651:

Akeif.7491:

Can’t you just dodge?

Good luck dodging a stealth pull.

Hahaha right… That’s kinda hard.

But you know : Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Krittz.6013:

Because underwater combat is really imbalanced.

Ugruk.4069:

They removed it because they were lazy implementing the water weapons on the new build UI

Guess that’s it. I hope they balance water skills and add it back again to be honest.
I like diversity and removing map kinda kills that.

Corian.4068:

I like the map, but I’m too lazy to switch to a map-specific build. Give us a build template system so I can be lazy but still be able to switch into something that’s useful on that map.

ANET changed the 1 week map rotation to random map so people had to get use to less specifics build and various scenarios.

That’s exactly the opposite of templates for specific maps.

Locuz.2651:

Its not really a matter of skill but more about abusing mechanics (stealth + magnet pull for example).

Can’t you just dodge?

Locuz.2651:

One of the main reasons why GW2s pvp flopped hard is because the game has a lot of braindead builds etc.

Braindead people should be easy to outsmart right?

Locuz.2651:

Builds that can kill you with 2 buttons like condi warrior for example.

There’s always a counter strategy… If a particular build is your weak points you gotta learn how to counter it right? Or I might be wrong.

Locuz.2651:

Up to a point that its no longer about pvp

I get you don’t enjoy this for whatever reason. But that doesn’t mean you have the rights to define the rules. PvP means players vs player. Each map have specifics you have to learn to deal with.

Locuz.2651:

….but more about cheese or get cheesed.

That sound like all form of PvP in all games to me…

Hey guys. I have the perfect solution.

Only one PvP map! We already have only one game mode!

It would be easy to mindlessly always do the same PvP matches, always use the same tactics, never have to adapt to any new situations, never have to change builds, not have to learn how to use terrain to our advantages, nor learning how to read adversaries mind and counter their strategies.

That would be so awesome!!!!!

Geez…

arrownin.3128:

Please explain to me the purpose of leaving in a map that heavily favors unskilled play over competitive play.

How can any map favor unskilled play? If you’re more skilled you’ll win right?

Locuz.2651:

- Rotating is about being at the right place at the right time.
- Its about counting numbers and helping out where its really needed.
- Its about not sticking around in outnumbered fights too long when it can jeopardize other points or teammates.
- Its about cutting off the “supply” of ressers to specific points without endangering said points by dying with 1 or 2 teammates.

So basically it’s just a term for holding points correctly.

And thanks for the few tips about doing so :P

OneManArmy.9732:

reminds me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D0Ak91bnlI

Hahahaha

I keep seeing the word “rotation” when people talk about tactics.

Probably mean rotation between players on points so opposite team have to adapt tactics? But I’m unsure.

Any guides or explanation out there?

Edit : So ‘rotation’ is the term for holding conquest points correctly.

Chilli.2976:

To those that a crying over toxic attitude in PvP. Firstly get good and go PvE and get kicked for no berserk gear.

It’s true. Everybody is like that in the end :P

laquito.5269:

New players with no kittening knowledge about the gamemode or any sense of map awareness frequently refuse to do things told by experienced players, even if they’re the only reasonable action to do.

Some won’t care for sure. But I think most genuinely not get complex concept when they’re fighting on home, they see “Stop doing X” in the chat while getting smashed in the face :P

Johnny Rotten.3910:

So my question is this: what the heck is going on? Is PvP full of hostile raging people like this? I just don’t get it. Any advice on how to handle these people/scenarios?

I opened the same kind of thread a few nights ago. Got a really good answer. Check this one

Blizt.3086:
I want to welcome people to play PvP, but currently I just can’t with the amount of frustration I get.

I tried, I tried interacting with my teammate at the start, during the match, with friendly attitude too. But most of the time there just were no respond from them at all, or likely they didn’t even have a clue of what I’m saying (for instance, telling them to rotate)

While not completely accurate, you can somewhat tell if the player is experienced in PvP by looking at their title, and the amount of people I see with non-PvP title just worries me, wondering how many of them really know anything about playing in solo/team queue.

I’m sure there are definitely PvP players with really bad attitude toward PvE players, but if you think about it, PvP players were always the minority group in GW2, I can only imagine there will be MORE PvE players with bad attitude or playing deaf when in a match.

I’m not kidding, I’m starting to hate PvE player even though I really shouldn’t, but I hate Anet even more. All this kitten happened because they put that stupid daily cap limit on Reward Track, which forces PvE players with no choice to play solo/team if they want to keep progressing.

I’m not saying PvE players shouldn’t play solo/team queue at all (after all, if you don’t play, how will you improve), but they should be separated into group that truly wish to improve their PvP skill, and group that simply wants the reward. And it’s the later PvE group that should be barred from solo/team, they should just earn their reward by playing in hotjoin (just as how back then PvP daily should be done in hotjoin, not solo/team queue).

But oh no, Anet decided to put the stupid daily cap limit on reward track in hotjoin, so the system screwed over us, and we end up in a situation it’s a lose/lose for everybody.

Maverick Holix.1382:

Well you know what OP… go back to pve!!!!!noob

hahaha :p

I don’t like PvE much, always played PvP in GW1 and GW2. Had my own GvG guild in GW1 and wrote all the builds for my team. So yeah, i’m a total noob.

What happen is :

1. I’m disappointed at how most players reacted. I hold PvPer in high regards, cause we kick kitten :p

2. And I didn’t get the whole picture. All the answers gave great insights and now I get why things are how they are right now.

So now I’m trying to figure out how to help solve the situation instead of flaming the forums

Blizt.3086:

I want to welcome people to play PvP, but currently I just can’t with the amount of frustration I get.

I tried, I tried interacting with my teammate at the start, during the match, with friendly attitude too. But most of the time there just were no respond from them at all, or likely they didn’t even have a clue of what I’m saying (for instance, telling them to rotate)

While not completely accurate, you can somewhat tell if the player is experienced in PvP by looking at their title, and the amount of people I see with non-PvP title just worries me, wondering how many of them really know anything about playing in solo/team queue.

I’m sure there are definitely PvP players with really bad attitude toward PvE players, but if you think about it, PvP players were always the minority group in GW2, I can only imagine there will be MORE PvE players with bad attitude or playing deaf when in a match.

I’m not kidding, I’m starting to hate PvE player even though I really shouldn’t, but I hate Anet even more. All this kitten happened because they put that stupid daily cap limit on Reward Track, which forces PvE players with no choice to play solo/team if they want to keep progressing.

I’m not saying PvE players shouldn’t play solo/team queue at all (after all, if you don’t play, how will you improve), but they should be separated into group that truly wish to improve their PvP skill, and group that simply wants the reward. And it’s the later PvE group that should be barred from solo/team, they should just earn their reward by playing in hotjoin (just as how back then PvP daily should be done in hotjoin, not solo/team queue).

But oh no, Anet decided to put the stupid daily cap limit on reward track in hotjoin, so the system screwed over us, and we end up in a situation it’s a lose/lose for everybody.

The cap is indeed one of the problems.

Solidor.4876:

The problem isn’t entirely the toxicity of some members, because this exists in every single competitive game scenario. The problem is new players are getting matched with veteran players on tournaments, thus causing this situation.

What you say is also true. And there’s also toxicity. There’s a few issues here :P

Seifer Thalaen.7869:

Soooo you suck but you don’t want ppl to tell you how much you actually suck….seems legit. Personally i use this second account just to troll pve heroes and make them ragequit..because you know, already r80, already have been top ladder, already been in esl…nothing to do so yeah…having fun being toxic, they ruined pvp and trashed my 3kk rank points and my 3k hours in pvp…now it’s time to go full trollmode…report me, i don’t give a single kitten…already have 3 accounts xD After 15 i just stopped being a kind player helping others, now my only goal is to make pvp a nighmare for new players….wanna blame someone? Blame anet…they made us being toxic, they made us hating pve heroes getting rewards with no effort, you did it now here’s your payback

Have fun. I can hold my own in PvP.
It’s true I reacted strongly but all the following comments were helpful in helping me understand a few issues.

azuzephyr.7280:

I decided to try that whole ‘mentor role’ BS, needless to say even if you talk about which points to go for/not to leave points open etc, it still happens, people very rarely respond.

Do the devs think it would be acceptable for me to force myself into a high level fractal group where people can’t remove me and deliberately ignore the tactics and kitten up the dungeon? Because that’s what’s happening in pvp since the patch.

I know the old que wasn’t great but fml I’d have it back right now, pvp is a headache

Your fractal example is quite dazzling. They would react the same. It’s true. There’s various levels of problems.

1. Mentoring in matches doesn’t work. It just make people angry. I made me furious mad to see how the PvP community I respect, acted like trolls.

2. There’s no good resources available to players. I’ll start putting up stuff where we can work on that.

3. There’s no entry cap into solo queue and team queue. And it’s true that might cause some problems.

I’m sure we can figure out something to make it better. And I got an idea I’ll try : Putting up a blog post with a good list of resources we can easily share to everybody.

I’ll put some time on it this week instead of running matches and share it around

Thanks for all the replies everybody. It really helped me understand what was really going on.

Leeto.1570:

So you played 500 hotjoin games, still dont understand how to play conquest and dont like that you get insulted for it? Well PVP is not for you then.
You dont care about actually playing good and just want dem PVE rewards and hope other will carry you?
You think people were learning to play the game for last year just so they can teach PVErs now? No i actually just want fun games.
When i started the game i at first played hotjoin till i knew everything about class and basics of PVP in this game then i did research on teamque, soloque and only then i did my first tpvp games… Why? Cause i did not want to kitten off people by making them loose.

I’m not making them loose. I’m not a pro tourny player but I know what’s going on. And, yes I go angry but trying to figure out what’s going on. Now I get it. Read this : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/to-many-noobs-in-tourneys/first#post3936635

I’m starting to work on solutions on this problem right this week.

And yes ANet can do something but we can also. And it’s going to happen. We can fix this and lets do this!

jportell.2197:

Wow… I’m sorry but r 25 isn’t the most difficult thing in the world….. and I agree on helping teammates out. However the middle of a rated match is not the time to type a long thoughtful explanation about where to rotate and when, which points are more important in context of the map (mid on foefire, sides on nilfhel, etc.). About the only thing you have time for is one or two words and maybe some exclamation points.

Also being r25 doesn’t make you an uber elite pro on soloque I’m rank 74 and have 4/8 champion titles and would not claim to be a godly expert on tPvp tactics but it’s safe to say I know more than the people that are flooding solo que. Also for those that think soloque=spvp no. Soloque=solo TOURNAMENT pvp and team que= team TOURNAMENT pvp so stop calling soloque spvp. Spvp is hotjoins.

People need to listen to the guy shouting at the beginning of the match “hold on to your points seize theirs.” It doesn’t say “zerg around off point and focus on your own score and kills.” The game mode is conquest….. not TDM

I agree with you on everything you said. You are right. I think we’re facing a problem where people want to help each other but doesn’t really know what to do in the middle of the match since they want to focus on winning the match.

There’s a lot of people who want to get into sPvP but they don’t really know where to start. And the MIST lobby isn’t a good resource.

I think one good solution would be to build a super well maintained list of blog posts that really help different level of players getting into PvP and sharing this around in order to educate new comers.

I’ll do some good research, throw something out and look for good feedback so I can start building like the “Essential guides to the starting/amateur PvPer”. If it’s good enough it could get a sticky :P

ANET may have plans but building stuff ourselves, as a community will show them where we want to head, and they will follow.

And thanks for all the replies. There was a lot of constructive discussion.

I’ll post the link to the blog post here so you guys can follow up if you’re interested.

XacTactX.6709:

LOL I never read the post by Akeif, how did you get r25 in 900 hours, did you put another 0 by accident?

Played the game for 900 hours. Played 500 matches. Did a lot of PvE. Always got into PvP once in a while to have some decent skills and know what’s going on when I watch shout casted tournaments.

Benjamin.8237:

I agree. I played this game for 2 years and played 460 sPvP games. Used to enjoy using chat before.

There’s a difference between tutoring people and just shouting out insults. Tutoring also need learning and it’s a skill that few have in sPvP.

Check this official post : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Reward-track-progress-cap

Since the patch lots of people went to PvP. They’re mostly new comers.

The problem is not pairing, low skill levels, queues or whatever. It’s how “elite” players react.

There’s not been a single game without some troll with toxic attitude. I had to turn off chat because I got so frustrated with all the comments.

New players will learn how sPvP work if you help them! Not if you insult them.

Read what the dev said here : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Appropriate-Pairing Same as I did.

“That said, there has been a huge influx of new players, and this is likely what you are noticing. They are likely going to need some time to learn the ropes and figure out how to play. May I suggest taking a patient, mentoring approach?”

And people who are trying PvP and don’t like it will leave in a few weeks. Other players will understand the game better.

We play this game for fun. If you don’t enjoy it at least don’t pester us with it. You can always go play any other game, and there’s plenty of them.

That’s so true. I’ve turn off the chat because of all this newcomer slapping. The game is amazing now. Those trolls don’t know anything about respect and helping out. Tutoring new comers is a great way to learn the game since you actually have understand and word it properly yourself.

We should start a PvP guild for enjoyable people :P

This patch is awesome by the way, and of course PvErs will come and try PvP. Try recruiting them and helping them out instead so they can actualy enjoy the game.

And hot join was always a mess so it doesn’t matter much anyway. I wanted to do PvP only since the start but didn’t cause I wanted some character progression.

PvEers that don’t like PvP will leave someday. And I’ve been in quite a few hard matches.

You guys should look forward instead of behind. It’s gonna be fine in a few weeks.

I’ve played over 900 hours and rank 25 in PvP and you guys just want to win for points. You kitten everybody when you don’t win.
Since the patch i’ve been in loosing team and there’s always someone who kitten about ‘noobs’ and rage about something.

Go in team arena and tournaments if you want stiffer competition. Anybody can run serious tournaments with custom arenas.

But you wouldn’t want to loose there either. If you want to win, help your fellow team mate instead of raging and kittening.

I’ve uploaded 3D vision screenshots of the described bugs
https://mega.co.nz/#!isB0gBZD!Wl9QNbeUDQC4Xfkns-mWltCGK-9Y16ApOvdo8Pgza3I

Unfortunately that’s not a bug.

Geekfox.4267:

It’s a rendering issue in Guild Wars 2 client, despite that it has a “Stereoscopic 3D” option.

The last thing that was fixed in 3D was the revive bar, which was some patch later after the GW2 release almost 2 years ago. Before that, the revive bar was shown on screen level rather than in depth.

I hope this fix can be done the same for the arrow/star/LFG/ANet icons.

This is also an issue. The revive bar show in depth but not the text over it or the skills. So it look buggy too.

I’d love to use 3D Vision more while playing Guild Wars 2

World maps elements, like waypoints, interests points, are deeper than the world maps. They also look weird.

There’s also problems with cinematics background. The background is closer than the characters and it look buggy.

I’ve noticed a minor glitch in Stereoscopic 3D when using Nvidia 3D vision 2 in the game.

Some token that appear on the right hand side of player health bars doesn’t show properly in 3D and are out of focus.

For example the arrow that indicate player that are uplevel or downlevel don’t appear in focus. It look like 2 arrow and is impossible to focus on.

Tequatl is now absolutly amazing.
I was so depress when I first saw how boring and easy it was to defeat him.
In any game, dragons are supposed to be the most powerful beeing and now Tequatl is just that.
It’s so amazing to see people running everywhere and dying in a pure chaos of endless destruction.
That’s exactly how fighting a dragon should feel.

And it’s FUN! Before this update I NEVER went to a world boss outside for farming Dragon Ore because they were boring.

A lot of people complain about this but whatever, it’s NOT how GW2 should be.
It’s now how Guild Wars 1 was either.

To me, Tequatl is like “the last boss of GW2”. And I’m sure I’ll fail a lot trying to beat him but when I’ll succed it’s sure gonna be a rejoice!

Thanks a lot for all the positive thoughts and reply.
Since the last update I’ve seen so many complains.
Even thought I enjoy them a lot making all world bosses harder, people who don’t complain a lot.
It’s nice to see people liking stuff for a change.

Amstel Steel.2058:

I saw this on the web.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S72oOdRstyo
Tap those kittens.

Lol, what is that??? :P

Greetings people at Arena Net and players,

I’ve been playing Guild Wars 1 from day one to the day Guild Wars 2 came out and obviously GW2 from the day it came out.

There’s a lot of people complaining about a lot of stuff all the time, and yes something, some changes might affect some people negatively from their perspective. But…

I’m enjoying this game like no other game I’ve ever played and for an MMORPG it is absolutely fantastic. If you don’t believe me go try another one

I want to thank everyone at Arena net, from developpers to human ressources, community manager for this totally awesome game wich make millions of players happy each month.

And I encourage everyone that enjoy this game to let us know about it, in this thread, in the game and in real life and to think about what they enjoy instead of the opposite.

I hope you guys at ANet see this post

Thanks for GW2!

Player looking for a team
Ingame name: Akeif (Akeif.7491)
Main Class / Potential Classes :
Engineer (played about 350h) Mesmer (played 40h)

Region: Canada/Quebec (Darkhaven)
Practice Times: Starting at 19h-21h.

Experience: Played GW1 for 500h, mostly pvp GvG was so much fun. GW2 bout 400h. Mostly PvE and WvW.

Other : I’d like to become better at the game by practicing PvP with other people that wanna become better.
Also want to enjoy the game with other people

Stone.6751:

I just pray that once they are all available they don’t release a 3-pack at a slight discount to the cost of buying them all individually.

Well that would be fine. I buy all my games at 5$ on steam 1 year after. It’s normal. You always pay more to get stuff early.

But kitten , I just want it to work correctly.

CodeE.4857:

The animation for the consortium sickle is absurd. Just make it do 2 hits since that’s when you get the item you’re harvesting.
I could have just bought the gems with my gold stock, but I decided that I wanted to show my support for this game with actual money.
So seriously, don’t waste my time on something silly like this.

And it take 3 hits to get the “herb”. Even if you double harvest. Wich the classic sickle it just go one until the node is depleted and it’s very short.

I’m so mad at this.