Guild Wars 2

Interesting.
/15char.

The Thief isn’t supposed to be support orientated, even in GW2.

Korochun.5862:

How does this video have high crits? Backstabs for 7k? I Unload for more than that on some people.

I guess you didn’t watch the whole thing? Because it shows much more than that.

Revelstoke.8924:

Neat vid. What do you use for your (multiple) intros? Aftereffects?

In credits at end all the programs I use, it’s not just me that creates it though I do have help.

Upzia.3041:

I hope you can use some of this, as its purely meant for constructiv critisism.

It’s cool, and I will.

Although I’m probably wasting my time trying to explain this to noobs, I’m going to write this hear in the hopes Anet will read. Lets use warrior as a good example.

A dual axe warrior with the basic high crit glass cannon build, can just press 5 (whirling axe) and gets an insane amount of adrenline, get’s 3 bars in like 2 seconds, then can proceed to use eviscerate to hit about the same as backstab. It’s like this;

Warrior: Whirling Axe – Eviscerate
Thief: Ballistik venom – Immobilize venom – steal – cloak & dagger – move behind – assassins signet – backstab.

Warrior with glass cannon build still get’s hit hard, but still maintains a lot of survivabilty. Thief on the other hand, one cc and were dead. If the other guy keeps dodging while were trying to backstab or cloak & shadows, we waste all are initiative and have to get out, where a warrior evicerate is just a lock on – 10k+ crit.

So how is it Thief is OP? And the Pistol Whip nerf was beyond kitten it never done ‘too much’ damage, the stun on it was almost non existent and kept you there for about 2-3 hits. Quickness however is stupid, and should be removed from the game.

All you idiot’s need to l2p.

I’ll try get the next release by Halloween.

I use;

WS for movement, I rarely use AD. I use QE for strafing, and I have hotkeys embedded on my pro gaming mouse for utilites and buffs. SUP BRO

Good vid overall, don’t forget to use poison more often ^^

I mainly Play D/D, because I like the high risk high reward gameplay. I am still using Ballistik Venom, but I use it along with the Immobilize venom now, basically this patch has used up an extra slot of my utility just to lock on a target easier.

Good video bro, ignore the haters.

I don’t know why people are calling me a clicker, at times it’s easier to do as I have a customized gaming mouse with Hotkeys on it, so while preparing buffs through those hotkeys I can click anything else that needs to be done while strafing. Not going to restrict myself because ‘others’ think ‘clicking’ is against PvP rules.

As for others, yes some people are suggesting I should try with another class, one of the underplayed ones which could interest other people in that area, so I might do so in the future.

You sure you don’t have í-ì-ù characters in it?

I come in peace. It is with great honor to present myself here, as no other profession can give me a challenge like you guys do in PvP. After todays Patch notes, people are saying you got hammered pretty hard.

Is it that bad?

I don’t know why people consider the Thiefs Elite Venom a buff. It is now breakable, meaning it is better to use the immobilize venom instead.

Now, to dress up as a charr and run after people making loud roaring noises…

Hello! This is my next and epic PvP video, part II. This time, contains much more action and precise gameplay than part I. As always, hope you enjoy! Thanks in advance.

Good job ArenaNet, make are unique ‘stone’ ability now breakable, meaning the immobilize venom is now better, making this the most useless Elite in-game. As well as nerfing Pistol Whip that done like, the same damage as unload, I hope this will be last nerf instead of catering to noobs.

TheGuy.3568:

Lets be honest here for a second some action MMO games Tera DCUO etc have combat to the point where its all skill even the best “builds” can find themselves countered and fights take time. However, that takes time.

Now 3 seconds may be an eternity to some of you and one on one I could see that but some of us aren’t key mashers (and i am not using that term as an insult). Now pvp should be fast paced but honestly what are you really doing? You start a fight and end it before most players can even respond. Now that plays to many of your advantage which is speed.

Now honestly no matter how many buttons there are lets state the fact you hit 6 in a sequential order that maximized your dps and usually win. Frankittenhat is a skill but its not “skill”. It is a build designed to win and no matter what way you cut it that many others who are “less skilled” have dominated with.

Now I know elite players feel offended say L2P etc etc but how long have we been playing mmos? Every game the same thing a build or a class goes above and beyond the capabilities of another and eventually they get nerfed. As of this moment the only thing that has gotten nerfed is guardians defenses one by one and likely this trend will continue but in the long run thieves that burst down full defensive players don’t help but hurt the game and its pvp. The risk for the efforts is an in combat stealth and wait for the cds and so that it can be done again. By no means do I feel thief should be nerfed into the ground (as a play one P/D and well enough for me to not feel the qq over D/D) but that doesn’t change the facts. Any build that requires that much micro management in more than a 2 on 2 probably should not exist outside that environment.

The real question is why do “elite” players fear getting hit by a nerf? I have wondered this for many years as we see this situation all the time. If you truly are better at pvp whether the pace be fast or slow you should win shouldn’t you? Even if it was brought in line for the so called “care bears” and other terms of that nature should not a lick of difference as your skills would still be far superior?

TL;DR

If you truly are one of the best players then no matter the nerf or balancing you will always win on skill alone. Stop using the idea of a nerf as a crutch the truly skilled stay that way no matter the build end of story. If you truly look at the number of thieves in sPvP you realize its not the incredibly high skill threshold that keeps them coming back for more time with thief.

So basically this massive lifestory is you saying, let’s balance the Thiefs around unskilled players so they have a chance, but it’s all good because the Elite players have to make-do with what’s left?

or

You could just learn, and get better.

As long as there is another descendant of Nika/Vizu I’m happy, she was my first love.

Aga.8641:

It’s been happening since release….And your server doesn’t matter, since the PvP matches are region based, euro or america.

No, I’ve spent most my time in PvP and only today there is random lagg/delay.

2 hours later and still happening.

A Warrior and Thief walk into a bar.

After a few drinks, the Warrior speaks;
Warrior: So Thief, what’s so special about you?
Thief: What?
Warrior: You know? watch, ‘Casts Hundred Blades’ Roarrrrr, you see, this is power, brutality, I’m the Warrior, what the hell can you do?
Warrior: Thief? Hello?…Sigh must be seeing things.

On Desolation EU.

Well, seeing as some of you guys aren’t very skilled players I will give you the benefit of a doubt. However, for those players that are good and do have high skill cap like me only then you will realize there is nothing wrong with Thief. But don’t let me tell you this, just watch this, this shows the general way of dealing with a Thief.
We do have weaknesses, it’s not as OP and easy as half of you idiot’s claim, it’s not oh we go invis-backstab-HS and we win 100%. Stop whining, making accusations, and l2p.

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq8BJrmrUaU

Yadad.6925:

aoe and conditions break stealth and they can’t stealth with conditions on them.

Lmao, please tell me your trolling.

BishopX.6453:

9k backstabs 3k steal and 1 hartseekers

by the way. I am a full bunker guardian.

It is almost impossible to hit even a 6k crit backstab on a fully defensive spec’d Guardian like your saying you are, so I don’t know where your getting those numbers from.

CptCosmic.3156:

Auron.2657:

Dee Jay.2460:

You are wrong Auron and you are the one who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-udk3CEtc7E

Add WvW into the mix, with Orbs, culling bugs etc. and players can easily get killed in 1-2 seconds.

I play that spec myself, and it really does work that well. A 45 second CD and 14k HP don’t justify practically one-shotting people.

The only proof that is, is a glass cannon Thief backstabbing glass cannon people. Or am I missing something?

wrong, the glass cannons wher hit for 10k, was hitting high toughness targets between 7-8k crits. maybe open your eyes and stop denying.

anyway it does not matter. the nerf will come 100%. anet is already collecting the data or do you thing the merged thread pinned at the top was done by a staff member just for fun?

No, I’m just tired of unskilled noobs, in every single game, crying over any type of assassin class with stealth, it’s always the same story. So we can crit for 8k average, that takes time to set up right. What’s going to happen when we can only crit for 4-5k average? We will use all are cooldowns and intiative’s for nothing while any other profession can just heal, remove conditions, block, or become immune, all of which a thief don’t have, they will be on there way while Thief will have no choice but to run with nothing left.

Dee Jay.2460:

You are wrong Auron and you are the one who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-udk3CEtc7E

Add WvW into the mix, with Orbs, culling bugs etc. and players can easily get killed in 1-2 seconds.

I play that spec myself, and it really does work that well. A 45 second CD and 14k HP don’t justify practically one-shotting people.

The only proof that is, is a glass cannon Thief backstabbing glass cannon people. Or am I missing something?

Derrikson.4709:

In any case, in any conditions, there must be no classes that can kill another any class in 1 second. If this happens – this is disbalance of classes. Every class must have some time to react against threat, not to die instantly from invisible enemy.

How exactly does a Thief kill something in 1 second lmao? Then again your exaggerating, your most likely going to quote with something like 3-5 seconds so allow me to retort.

What is this other guy doing while the Thief is trying to kill them, do they just stand there, brains lock-up in confusion of what to do, die, then come to forums and complain? I’d really like to know. Because it is impossible for any thief to kill something in under 5 seconds unless we get very lucky with crits, we catch someone off gaurd, and if there a glass cannon along with us being a glass cannon.

Both, and I enjoy making vids.

Dee Jay.2460:

I hope they don’t listen to you.

Thieves are OP in one aspect, and that is burst damage. They are fine, or even underpowered in other areas but that doesn’t justify such high burst.

They should address this just like they should address various bunker builds, be it Engineer, Guardian or Elementalist and any other gross imbalance.

Once again, someone complaining who knows nothing. You do realize we have to sacrifice everything, to reach good burst. Where as a warrior for example, Eviscerate or Hundred blades still does more damage than backstab, while keeping high survivability. Without it, were just a useless profession walking around stealthing not contributing to anything. And when we do reach that burst, we can only do good damage to certain professions.
I think what you don’t understand is, there are so many people going glass cannon in PvP because this games PvP is too dynamic for there simple brains, they get hurt bad by a Thief, which is normal because read my first post, were only good in 1v1, then come crying to forums. I don’t know how much simpler I can put it, there is nothing to discuss.

Don’t listen to anyone saying nerf Thief. There is nothing wrong with this profession, just bad players, it might be blunt but it’s straight forward. Thief have the lowest base HP next to Elems, we might wear medium armor but were natrually squishy, we have nothing what so ever that contributes to survival, only stealth. In PvP, whether it’s SPvP, or WvWvW, there’s not much a Thief can do.

We can’t take a group of people on, we can’t hold spot’s for the team, while every other profession has some kind of utilty that brings something to contribute in some type of defense, the Thief has none.

What we have, are skills. Developed to be strong in 1v1 combat, skills, that make us hunters, you won’t ever see a thief leading the charge, or a thief on his own trying to defend a point, nope. Were just good, at ambushing a single target, and escaping. It really is as simple as that.

For anyone else crying about Stealth, we can still get hit, hit by AoE, and suffer conditions. While most others have some immunity or a way to get rid of them.
For anyone else crying about Backstab, it takes a few cooldowns, and time to land it right, if we miss, there’s not much we can do and we have to back out.
For anyone crying about heartseeker spam, well, your just bad.

So Arena.Net, take it from someone who has been playing the assassin class since the dawn of MMO’s, we are not OP. In fact, Theifs, Warriors and Gaurdians along with Mesmers are balanced. It’s the other professions that need little buffs and what not.

That is all, thanks.

Nothing wrong with Thief’s or Mes in PvP. Do you guys realise how hard it is to not get caught playing a Thief? or How hard it can be for a mesmer to coordinate the right skills + order?

Or do you just go into SPvP, get owned by something you don’t understand, then cry OP ?

sbkline.4106:

Anybody else having trouble with hundred blades?

No, the only time I have trouble with it is if I’m already in a fight, in a busy area, and I’m being his by it from somewhere, otherwise It’s easy to dodge. Even if they Bulls Charge just disable / dash / stun, then that is there whole build rendered useless, as he probably has frenzy in there to.

I think they should bring in another Assassin that can be the descendant of Nika from Vizu because there hawt.

In my professional opinion, Warrior, Thief and Guardians are balanced, nothing wrong with them. It’s the other classes that need small buffs, more-so Elems.

The Thief is very dynamic, only the unskilled think there simple/easy profession.

The legion is here

This is why Backstab will probably get nerfed, because that rune of bloodlust whatever it’s called, should be disabled in PvP.

Let me guess, you got a friend to stand somewhere naked while you got all your buffs add posion +10% dmg and crit for 25k?

There is nothing wrong with it.

Simple answer: Yes.

There not if you like the armor’s, and there is a decent range you can get, and thanks to transmuting stones it’s pretty much never ending customization. Don’t know why some people are complaining.

Maybe a little. I’ve always played the Assassin class as IRL I’m more quite, serious, and when I speak it’s usually wise words. As a person I’m a natural protector, Which is why I also call myself Auron.

For Structured pvp.

Because like you said, you have not gotten very high so you ain’t gotten skilled in any single profession, Warrior is just the easiest to play which is why you feel he’s ‘Better’ just because the skill cap is easier to get to.

It’s probably a surprise, just wait and see.

Inferno.2315:

Play thief. Click invis. Laugh.

Well out of your lifestory that I was going to read, until you posted this I just stopped reading. Get better, Thief isn’t as ‘Easy’ as you interpreted.

It’s not hard to move a little to the side to be able to hit the ‘Back’ hitbox, stop being lazy.

Ok well seeing as how I’m not aloud to type ‘Lmao’ in response to someone elses funny post as it is ‘Unmeaning Contribution’ let me elaborate.

SkabSavage.8015:

When you find a lemon in your fridge and get excited because you needed that for a cooking recipe.

Hello, I read this post and it caused me to laugh. Every individual varies in their neurological pathways through their “boxes” in their brain to reach the output of laughter from a number of different inputs. Laughter is caused by certain visual or audio stimuli, often by perception of the unexpected or the incongruous. So in short, reading this post was unexpected, and caused me to laugh. Thanks.