Guild Wars 2

Started to play revenant and I won 80% games with this because u can solo all objectives(svanir,lord .etc). It is terrible that with revenant I have same or even greater dmg with 21,5k hp while having many usefull utilities and buffs. There is no reason to play thief now,Other classes have better blind and stealth,daredevil is worse than pre nerf acro.

TL;DR thief is kill, reroll because they are afraid to buff class that people complained about.

DeceiverX.8361:

Cannot tell if OP is serious or trolling with some of these :s

Backstab numbers are fine; just needs reliability, vault and bounding dodge need numbers plummeted because those two are way too overpowered. The rest of DD is terrible, and subsequently needs to be buffed to compensate. With 30% better backstab, I’d literally be dealing 30k stabs in WvW and well over 20k each in sPvP. I get it that it does low damage on a build not meant to stack damage, but it should be that way for any class. The thief’s innate durability and versatility inhibiting this are to blame more than anything.

130%=20k
100%=15,3
I want to see this in logs mate because even in full zerk on spvp with squishy target and some vuln/might I doubt that you can hit 12+

Wow so it makes double kill along with thief’s. Who will be next?!!!!?!?!?!??!?
On the serious note I also feel like warrior is very lacking because I didn’t play him often but compared how nice it was to play with this class now it just seem weak and slugish

meepeY.2867:

vespers.1759:

Boy don’t we all miss the days when thieves could fight a zerg single handedly?

I mean… all these nerfs are so unjustified.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7OYniHrGqE

This video is a 5man group fighting a zerg, not just a single thief…

90% of the people in the video stood still or didnt even fight back.

What daggers does he have in this video?

Don’t see a problem, I always get around 10 , once even 17 per ds, and often after pod run I have still 5-7 minutes left

UnbentMars.9126:

Sola.7250:

Ascended Armor was top tier, I’ve created 2 full sets (1 Hv, 1 Lt) through crafting and farming but, now there’s all this talk of Legendary Armor, I’d hate to see the cost of that!!!

Ascended gear has the same stats as legendary gear so the only real change between the two is the ability to switch stats at any time.

They are also making the legendary armor have collection stuff, so the actual gold cost will be mitigated by things that won’t require gold, but we will see

If it will be as mitigated as prec craft i would rather buy pre for armor.

Tbh most of this is true, but i like Tangled Depths. It is different than the rest and have some nice places like rata novus. The problem is imbalanced meta (spores on frog lane) which affects negatively ppl doing it and making them not even trying whith semi organized. This is open world content, it should be douable with semi organization (people at right event doing right thing) where even if you will manage to do event boss is dmg check to the degree that has never been seen in this game

Stated in topic , what happend to pic related.

Most map don’t have t4 because most of people on map that either stay zerg at one rally or don’t even do other events. It is quiet easy , if you have security level over 2,3 at start of canopy events (20 minut before dawn) and you will kill all bosses then t4 is guaranteed.

ProtoGunner.4953:

TD is the culprit of MMO crafting. It’s the top of complexity, ingenious design and craftsmanship. But I understand it’s very hard, the mobs are mostly utterly annoying and do sometimes too much damage. 27k shroom explosion or whatever it was on my heavy armored zerker rev is absurd. They really have to tone down some enemies. Also make the meta event a bit easier. Otherwise we will never see this map ever done on a regular basis.

I actually like hard content, but the problem here is, I can’t do it alone, no not even in a group, you need hundreds of people to do it and that’s the problem.

If you have problem with surviving in zerker armor maybe you should take some vitality/toughness stat, as for meta event it is quiet easy but on most map no one even tries , it is just hard to have enough ppl, maybe damage on gerent in some cases.

FoRcExVoRtEx.9548:

This is a collection item part of each weapon type’s ‘Machined’ collection. The collection can be unlocked by trading airship parts, ley line crystals and lumps of aurillium as well as 2/3 reclaimed metal scraps to the vendor at the end of the Dragon’s Stand meta event for a plated weapon. Specialisation collections require the corresponding machined weapon type, therefore it is kinda part of the specialisation collection (indirectly).

Thanks for answer

I meant ley line cores not items for backpack , and they are not for spec weapon

Has any of you managed to unlock collection to be even able to buy this? Checked wardrobe , but there is no weapon that fits
http://imgur.com/3DUuviN

blarghhrrkblah.3412:

BobbyT.7192:

I’m looking for the kitten feather, anyone seen it?

I’m told you need to kill Quetzal in Auric Basin to get them.

Yes , i got it like from third veteran.

I don’t even try anymore , needless to say that many of L2p issued problem and just qq threads posted in Zero “Nerf Wish list” was addressed even so they were undeserved. They just don’t have a clue how to balance it because either it will be broken to the point we are worthless only +1 class most of time and every other class is happy( even so some “pr0’s” qq how teef is invincible and invulnerable).
First example acro tree : they took to account that acro s/d was op (which imo was strong and maybe needed some tweaks) and balanced towards only this set where making it weak for s/d and utterly useless for other weapon set’s due to lack of evade on weapon skill.
TL:DR
They won’t buff us because other classes would make multiple qq and cry threads just because stealth seems to be unfair mechanic where multiple blocks from guard is ok.
For them it is either thief being nothing and only some posts like this on form or qq threads of other classes

Maybe i didn’t say it but for me s/d is okay by now (not op , not worthless) .What i was aiming at with this topic is that they balanced whole acro around s/d so if i want to take acro for let’s say pve for more dodge with any other set than s/d it is completely unviable

I tried a few configuration.
Damage seems to go quiet up as far as i checked it but you still need both crit and deadly arts for that purpose.
As for condi it does not seemed any different for me than before with one exception of apply poison which gives quiet a buff at dmg when you use it.
SA is quiet same as before.
Acro is my disappointment. It so obvious that they balanced it only around s/d set. It is quiet okay if you use it with this set but with any other it is trash compared to what was before. Main reason of this is change of feline grace which favors weapons with evade so as a result we have acro usless for anything besides s/d or maybe s/p

This is sad that they balanced entire trait line for one weapon set making it usless to others

So my fast-paced gameplay is gone and i have either go glass canon or SA ;\, sad imo that as they wanted to repair game they force ppl into less amount of builds

It is just me or now acro don’t give enought dodge . Done some tests , even with evading for feline grace i have like 1/3 less dodge than before when I had only 3 points.

And last refuge is still there anet wth…..

Maugetarr.6823:

Awaltir.5302:

Yes i think we will get this stick right in the a…. , because some “lucky” profession will get traps for specialization and it will be probably us….

“Almost every elite specialization will gain access to a complete set of new skills : a single heal, four utility skills, and one elite skill. Revenants will gain a healing skill, an elite skill, and a set of utilities of the same type. *

The text said “new set of skills” which can mean new skill type but also can mean just new skill for profession , not new type.
Sadly if we get rifle it is most probable because traps mostly fit to ranged weapons and i rather doubt that golden child guard will get this kitten.

Treeoflife.4031:

so wait. for acrobatic SD thieves for example….will we no longer be able to use both Vigorous Recovery and Power of Inertia bc they are both adept? If so i will be rather upset.

I disbelieve this but there is a small chance that this traits will be merged because they affect same thing (dodge).

Is there any chance that instead of instant conversion from skill point to material we will get vendor? It will be insane if we will get hundreds of mats when max stack is 250 and we won’t have place to store it.
Does every class will have merged traits or there will be also new traits in old trait lines ?

Doggie.3184:

Maybe I can finally use Residual Venom + Venom Share without losing Bountiful Theft now~ or even gain Sleight of Hands ;x Using both Venom GMs just gimps u so hard currently. Even better if they delete some of these Venom traits and apply them to the skill itself.

I wouldn’t go with my hopes high they probably will leave traits that are “the best” in their opinion.

naphack.9346:

Awaltir.5302:

Sagat.3285:

Awaltir.5302:

Sagat.3285:

Awaltir.5302:

Yes i think we will get this stick right in the a…. , because some “lucky” profession will get traps for specialization and it will be probably us….

That would make me happy no sarcasm.

Yea especially when they will be as viable as traps we already have…..

I use traps in WvW with runes of the trappers if they make them better or had weapon/heal/elites that fits with them it’s a +. This is the same process that created revenant that I stated before have the best design out of all classes.

I do understand that you like traps but let’s face it , most people don’t , also how do they fit the theme of fast agile fighter who relies on stealth and dodges?

As for traits I dislike that i can’t decide if i want 2 adept traits . Rest is ok , most of the traits are placeholders anyway so if they will make some real choice it will be nice.

They fit the theme of a kitten, who uses everything at their disposal in order to win.

TBH i rather dislike it not because it does not fit theme but rather that it will be viable in only one game mode (WvW).

Sagat.3285:

Awaltir.5302:

Sagat.3285:

Awaltir.5302:

Yes i think we will get this stick right in the a…. , because some “lucky” profession will get traps for specialization and it will be probably us….

That would make me happy no sarcasm.

Yea especially when they will be as viable as traps we already have…..

I use traps in WvW with runes of the trappers if they make them better or had weapon/heal/elites that fits with them it’s a +. This is the same process that created revenant that I stated before have the best design out of all classes.

I do understand that you like traps but let’s face it , most people don’t , also how do they fit the theme of fast agile fighter who relies on stealth and dodges?

As for traits I dislike that i can’t decide if i want 2 adept traits . Rest is ok , most of the traits are placeholders anyway so if they will make some real choice it will be nice.

Sagat.3285:

Awaltir.5302:

Yes i think we will get this stick right in the a…. , because some “lucky” profession will get traps for specialization and it will be probably us….

That would make me happy no sarcasm.

Yea especially when they will be as viable as traps we already have…..

To be honest i m most afraid that class who will get traps at specialization will be thief , but regardless didn’t they check that most of the traps are not even considered viable skill? It will be sad.
About traits we will see.

I STRONGLY DISAPPROVE CONVERTING AUTOMATICALLY SKILL POINTS TO NEW CRAFTING MATERIAL – there should be just vendor to trade , don’t you realize that some people have thousands of skill points and won’t have place to store this….

Yes i think we will get this stick right in the a…. , because some “lucky” profession will get traps for specialization and it will be probably us….

Tigaseye.2047:

Awaltir.5302:

for every person complaining here there is 10 more in game who enjoys it. Also i have never understood the phenomena that when ppl die all in one place it is tragedy but if they die one by one in car crashes etc. it is statistic.
This is just charmless joke based on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CunHb3TJsg if you feel offended then you should go seek help at doctor place rather than forum

Really not sure about that…

When I logged off, DR on my realm was virtually empty.

It’s never, normally, virtually empty at US peak time.

Prior to that, there had been a lot of negative/unhappy comments in /s, on map chat and in guild chat.

Mainly people asking how they could get rid of it.

A few positive ones, too, but mainly negative.

I think the issue was less the “joke” itself, but more that they couldn’t get rid of it.

And i m here at one of greatest realms of eu (deso) and didn’t see a single complain about it in crowded la and spawming zerg of sw

for every person complaining here there is 10 more in game who enjoys it. Also i have never understood the phenomena that when ppl die all in one place it is tragedy but if they die one by one in car crashes etc. it is statistic.
This is just charmless joke based on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CunHb3TJsg if you feel offended then you should go seek help at doctor place rather than forum

Mo Mo.1947:

Hoping for thief rifle. I haven’t gone for a legendary before but I’m trying to go for The Predator so my covops armor thief can have a proper extremely loud rifle. My warrior and engineer just wouldn’t be worthy of such a marvelous thing.

I think thief gets rifle if for no other reason than that only two classes can use rifle atm. They need more rifle action!

If we will get this i just hope we won’t hip shot with this as engi because it looks so lame

Crey.5263:

I’m personally hoping for a Sniper specialization. Thieves are the only class that can’t hit 1200 range. But if they got rifle you could give them the 1500 range and maybe make it so that they cant uses it within a certain distance (0-450/600). And their utilities and weapon skills could focus on putting distance between them and their target. Plus that would work great with their critical strikes trait line.

I think this would make other profession users cry again and get thief overnerfed again…

I would rather want to see some kind of mainhand/offhand weapon because it would give more diversity(more combo skills/possible builds)

Kreed.2768:

Awaltir.5302:

Bran.7425:

darres.8203:

why not?
they’ve already drowned thieves, and people are still QQing

Then why are there still thieves being used at the highest level of play?

Dunno if u ever watched/played high bracket pvp but thief is only usable as cap or +1 because of poor design of many mechanics involving stealth/initiative everyone who at least know what thief can do can outplay him
Also funny that stealth interrupting channel skills (not only rapid fire ) is too op but kittened skills with 3-6 100% immunity to dmg is ok , also i do understand that ranger was up and now finally got some love , but saying that thief is op in spvp is literally not playing him or l2p issue

It’s hard to compare stealth on a thief, which has virtually no hard cooldown aside from revealed on both the d/p and s/d meta builds as weapon skills to immunities with cooldowns of a whole minute or more. Plus, each utility provides only immunity from one damage type; either direct damage or condition damage. It’s a panic button with a relatively long cooldown compared the duration of the skill. Stealth, however, can be employed by the thief as long as there is initiative to spend.

It always drives me crazy for how ppl say that stealth have no hard cooldown . Yes it have not but the situation where thief don’t have to use cd to disengage is lucky shot . When you fight you also use initiative . Initiative cap is 12 , stealth from weapon cost 9(black powder+hearthseeker) + it is just 3 sec of invisibility where u don’t get anything(unless u are SA) and u can be damaged by aoe/aa(if ppl have brain and look where u can be) and also do not forget that thief have the lowest hp pool from every medium armor class which i do not understand (well i understood it before reveal patch but now it is ridiculous). So to wrap it up you have to not use skills to burst someone to disengage without using some hard cooldown, best situation u swap weapon to shortbow for infiltrator but with new “no viable path” patch it is sometimes worthless (still 6 initiative which is reasonable but it is not a stealth so)

Bran.7425:

darres.8203:

why not?
they’ve already drowned thieves, and people are still QQing

Then why are there still thieves being used at the highest level of play?

Dunno if u ever watched/played high bracket pvp but thief is only usable as cap or +1 because of poor design of many mechanics involving stealth/initiative everyone who at least know what thief can do can outplay him
Also funny that stealth interrupting channel skills (not only rapid fire ) is too op but kittened skills with 3-6 100% immunity to dmg is ok , also i do understand that ranger was up and now finally got some love , but saying that thief is op in spvp is literally not playing him or l2p issue

I meant to say that i would rather want them to make some replayable content in this span of time instead new race.

New race is a waste of effort because work=/=gameplay. You need to do new story , make all armors for them , animations etc just for other looks…

I just hope that if we will get rifle , we will hold it like warrior , not engi….

Celtic Lady.3729:

Didn’t they say a few months ago or something that there’d never be Elona or Cantha in the game?

They also said that there will be no paid expansion

Two things with fractals drop need the most is:
Making you able to trade your ascended ring witch u don’t need for at least 1 pristine fractal relic.
Make fractal weapon into boxes like ascended weapons(It is very disapointing where u have like 5% chance for frac weapon and u can still get those u don’t use…)

Truth be told they made this acid partially by themself. Because when ppl see that at start they want to talk but there is no other side for conversation they become angry mob which is unable to talk anymore ( like with revolutions). I think they should slowly rethink the way of informing ppl – like start with at least telling what they do with degree of this work like: SAB return – considering in future. Because people can be angry but they at least should know on what ground game stay.Here we have the worst problem what we that we face right now because from this interview everything is soon considering etc which give us only 1 information – the only thing we know they work is ls and gemstore skins .

chemiclord.3978:

Awaltir.5302:

Lol i didn’t know that there is censorship on this forum,but as i see it is(second post of thread opener deleted). Any way it would be nice to know what direction is game having, also if they say something by themself (like pre crafting) they should do it.

The “roadmap” that people ask for is a mixed bag from a developer standpoint, and a lot of it has to do with developers having no earthly clue how people work.

When they tried their roadmap in 2012, the end result FELT extremely negative, mostly because of a small minority of the player base who decided every declaration of intent was a promise and used it as an excuse to be combative and belligerent whenever any one of those little bullet points wasn’t met.

These people ARE entitled brats, and they exist in every MMO and think it is perfectly acceptable to be abusive and vicious whenever they don’t get everything they want exactly when they want it.

Where Arena.net made a critical mistake was by then retreating from further communication… and I think it’s because they don’t realize that these entitled brats didn’t rise up because of the roadmap. They rose up because THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. They’re little kittens, and they will ALWAYS exist. If you don’t give them something to rage about, they will MAKE UP something to rage about.

The retreat on Arena.net’s part only got worse because once they ran away from the table, that allowed the trolls to set the environment, one that was extremely toxic and vile, and they were given legitimacy BECAUSE Arena.net ran away from the table.

Interviews (like this one) are blown completely out of proportion because of that distrust. Reasonable explanations for why that interview would come off poorly are ignored. Changes are immediately assumed to be to players’ detriment and somehow intended to drive gem store sales. Any probes into forum sentiment is met immediately with hostility.

And now otherwise perfectly reasonable people here are fighting each other, because of that environment. There’s no trust or implied genial intent, it’s simple to slap a “white knight” or “hater” label on someone else and eschew any meaningful conversation that might require you to reassess just what HAS been said.

I remember in those first CDIs warning Chris Whiteside that you CAN’T run away for PRECISELY this reason.

It IS fixable, but I suspect many people wouldn’t find the fallout worth it. Arena.net would need to find some people with very thick skins and the power and willingness to drop the Perma BanHammer.

It’s going to kitten people off, but the only way to fix this environment now is with napalm; making it clear that if you refuse to approach in a cordial manner, and instead only with derision and scorn that you will get punched in the mouth and not be allowed to speak again.

Well there are some ppl that they are not upset because THEY DON’T DO WHAT WE WANT but because WE DON"T KNOW WHAT THEY EVEN INTEND TO DO. When the game was new devs keep us informed in some ways where we could have speculate what will be next but right now we have a black wall.. It is bad because if it will be like that for more time people start to think " why should i even support this game if i don’t know if it have any future".

I hope that new feature pack will give us some answers but right now I can only hope and cross my fingers

Also in my opinion(!!!!) they should rather go for expansion if they want keep ppl happy but it is only small chance because gemstore do the job just fine.

Lol i didn’t know that there is censorship on this forum,but as i see it is(second post of thread opener deleted). Any way it would be nice to know what direction is game having, also if they say something by themself (like pre crafting) they should do it.

Got this broken map 3 time in a row and don’t want to play pvp for next few weeks.

It wouldn’t be that bad to be it acb but rng fossils broke everything.

Well i don’t play long but those 2 things are disturbing:
-reward track says that armor boxes gives ARMOR SET but when you open it you only get 1 item
- stealth is utterly useless vs longbow ranger unless you interrupt his rapid fire because stealth don’t do anything vs casting time abilities . They hit target anyway until end of cast (unload,rapid fire etc)

I think it is only legendary due to it that only them have in description something like 900-1100(Ice).

I heard that legendaries with elemental damage (like ice/fire/lightning) sometimes have special kill animations but i didn’t find them on youtube. Could someone who have legendaries like this put here a screen of that animation? Especially frostfang because i consider making it.

well i have the same but i play eu copy on eu server