Guild Wars 2

Perhaps you should try playing Protoss

Hmm try 0/4/0/6 so torment applies on shatter and I think It’s good for you to take blind/confusion combo on glamour skills since I see you run with both feedback and null field. And maybe getting rid od dienchenter and taking cloak wall, either that or something to boost your mobility like traveler rune.

Fay.2357:

Kirito.9207:

To me playing whatever you want is kinda selfish because you’ll be bringing down the whole group for your fun.

This is the key here. Running a bad build is being incredibly selfish. It’s saying ‘I don’t care about anyone else playing this game with me, I only want to play how I want.’ Are you allowed to have that opinion? Sure, but don’t expect people to want to play with you.

The build is “bad” according to your personal opinion, so far it proved really good according to mine. I’ve been playing gw2 since release, was always attracted to unorthodox builds, I soloed Lupi with pure minionmancer Necro for example. So far in last 2 years I never brought teams down or had people that don’t want to play with me or ever being called selfish

@Kirito
Hi, thanks for response, The build is tanky but i put in some ruby trinkets and increased crit chance to about 30% and with 2k power it offers pretty good dps with swords, so I don’t think that my dmg output suffers that much?
I did try switching to more standard shatter build with pure precision gear. So far I didn’t notice drastic dps change. The only difference is that with my pure power/tank build i stay in melee always and offer moderate ove-time dps. While in squishy build I run in, burst do dmg and run away. Somehow it feels to me that in the end when I look my whole dmg during duration of the fight it turns out pretty much same. The only difference is personal preference.

Fay.2357:

Catcrafter.3917:

@Fay
Hey mate thanks for your response and the link, I already read that guide yesterday
I disagree with your presumption am going in an entirely wrong direction.

Sorry man, but it’s not a presumption. You are going in the entirely wrong direction, and it’s not really something that can be argued. You’re choosing to go for a tanky build instead of a dps build. This means you are actively choosing to be useless to a party, they will have to carry you through dungeons.

Catcrafter.3917:

There are of course better and worse builds for certain content but it’s entirely up to player’s ability to make them work and cater to his personal play-style. I always try to encourage people in games such as this to be as creative as possible and to stay clear off metagame as much as they can.

Again, this build and any variation of it is simply bad for dungeons. Yes, you can run whatever you want to run, but if I (and many others) see someone running a build like this in my party, I will kick you immediately, because you’re not contributing anything to the party. It’s not a matter of personal skill and playstyle, it’s a matter of good versus bad. The best player in the game can’t make this build effective for dungeons.

Catcrafter.3917:

I hit lv80 yesterday I still have to get runes and sigils and so far I am very satisfied with my build. I am 80% of time in melee almost 100% of time in chaos armor (I like pretty bubbles) and am enjoying myself. Am also very satisfied with dps and support output of the build.

I too ran a very tanky build when I first started PvEing. It does unbelievably less damage, and you don’t really understand that until you’ve seen what a glassy build can do. Chaos armor simply isn’t necessary, and good PvErs stay in melee range the entire fight, in glassy builds.

Catcrafter.3917:

The purpose of this thread was not to ask do you think this build is good or is it necessary in dungeons but to share ideas of how to maximize potential of the melee/tanky/support mesmer and make it work as best it can.
Cheers

I’ll just say it one more time: Tanky builds are useless in PvE. Nobody is going to stop you from running them, but you will be useless in groups, and anyone who wants to make a dungeon party and doesn’t want to carry you will kick you instantly.

Again mate, I respect your opinion but you’re completely missing the purpose of this thread. I asked if people can look at my build and offer suggestions that would fit the idea of the build, like Dei Veien did. This thread is not about do you like the build or not.

I have no problem with people like you kicking me from parties, in fact I would be grateful if you and everyone like you ignore/block me permanently, you are just not the kind of gamers I enjoy playing with online, any game not just gw2. No hard feelings.
Cheers

Hi! I disagree if you’re creative you can make your char look amazing.
Here’s my Necro charr for example.

@Fay
Hey mate thanks for your response and the link, I already read that guide yesterday
I disagree with your presumption am going in an entirely wrong direction. There are of course better and worse builds for certain content but it’s entirely up to player’s ability to make them work and cater to his personal play-style. I always try to encourage people in games such as this to be as creative as possible and to stay clear off metagame as much as they can. I hit lv80 yesterday I still have to get runes and sigils and so far I am very satisfied with my build. I am 80% of time in melee almost 100% of time in chaos armor (I like pretty bubbles) and am enjoying myself. Am also very satisfied with dps and support output of the build. The purpose of this thread was not to ask do you think this build is good or is it necessary in dungeons but to share ideas of how to maximize potential of the melee/tanky/support mesmer and make it work as best it can.
Cheers

That 2years after the game is released we have patch notes like: This X skill/trait/ability actually works now!
Yay!! Thanks Arenanet! Great work everyone!

Any advice on building melee/tank/support s+s mesmer?
This is my current build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhIQNAscWnsISlaWqGuqB1aIh3IM3wp7GDRXdpCA-TRyFwAEeAAFOEAv3fgmyPTq/s4MAcRfDAlgaN/BA-e
Am trying to be as tankiest as possible and have chaos armor on me constantly.
Any advice would be appreciated.

Mei Mato.5478:

It’s normal if you see more than 3 illusions at once.

Example:

• 3 illusions up -> shatter

Now the illusions start to run towards their targets, if during this time, you cast

• Mirror Images + Decoy

There will be for few seconds 6 clones alive, 3 suicidal (shatter), 3 alive.

Hey Dei, thanks for response.
I see now that Staff is much better option for off hand, am gonna make that change. I always see mesmesrs with greatswords that I simply forgot about staff…
Oh I already have guardian. The reason Am sticking with dual swords is because I have cool skins for them and they look kitten and block is also very useful.
Yeah I see your reasoning behind buffing phantasms but constant chaos armor via glamour skills is still kinda better in my opinion, I stil have to try it it in harder dungeons but so far it works really well. But I will definitely switch to staff off-hand, thanks for advice mate!

So my idea is to go for melee Mesmer sword+sword for PvE that relies on high vitality and toughness, have 3 combo fields (Null Field, Feedback and Time Warp) the idea is to always have Chaos Armor on me. I don’t shatter my illusions am trying to always have them alive as they give me 10%damage reduction and regeneration. My weapons have Signet of Water for small heals and sustain.

This is the link to the build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhIQNAscRnsISlaWqGuqB1aIh3IM1wp7GDRZ9cpCA-TByFwAEeEALODAX038e/BaK/Mp+DAlgaN/BA-e

Check it out and please tell me if you have any ideas on how to improve the build.
Cheers!

Edited changes:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhIQNAscWnsISlaWqGuqB1aIh3IM3wp7GDRXdpCA-ThCBABYcIAEc/hjU6lj6P0qEcKlBA8AA84MAoi+mEM/BA-e

!http://i57.tinypic.com/3mv7.jpg!

Engineer: If it ain’t twitching you ain’t burning it right!

Someone sent me a private message wanting to know the dyes and armor sets am using but being the dumas I am I deleted the message. Hopefully that someone will return to this tread.
Mask is skull mask from character creation
Shoulders and legs are from Twilight Arbor dungeon
Body and gloves are from Arah dungeon
Boots are from Citadel of flame
Dyes are midnight ice and blood

Hope this helps, cheers!

Charr necro

I see a lot of heavy armor charrs here, so I give you one with light armor.

Are you playing thief by any chance?

Am with you on that! I want my minions to get a brain for Wintersday

Dungeon “stuff” must stay exclusively available trough tokens because they also carry a statement with them, statement that many people feel its more important than actual weapon/armor skin.
Back to the topic. i agree with the OP, more things should be made tradeable like boosters, tonics, special events stuff, BL chest stuff, town clothing and so on…
I am also sure we can expect to see many more tradeable stuff in the future as the game content continues to grow, so don’t worry, just be patient

Chances to get a exotic item are 0.3% it means roughly in 1000 items that drop there will be 3 exotics, also please keep in mind that not all areas and all mobs have chance to drop exotics at all. Now, if you have 100% magic gear those chances increase to 0.6% now, tell me do you think MF is useful?

Never noticed this, but if it interferes with gameplay it should be looked at. I encourage you to send the ticket to the developers about this matter. imagine the higlevel tournament where is money involved to have its outcome changed by levelup, it would make some people very unhappy.

People who are happy with their product almost never go to the forums to express their delight, maybe 1 out of 100 does, on other hand people who dislike the certain aspects or sometimes the whole product they have bought feel the need to express their feelings more than the happy ones, which again is fine because most people who “qq” on the forums do it because they care about the game and want to draw attention to the problems in the game. Feedback is always welcomed weather is good or bad and it always helps the developers one way or another.
Creating constructive feedback however, is entirely different matter, some do it good, while some not so good but they all want to help this game grow and improve in their own way.

That’s a harpoon

I can do it in 3, keep practicing!

I was skeptic but now am sure the end of the world is coming!!!

Crazy

Same here everything always attacks necro! Its a bug 100% perhaps certain skills trigger it or something, tell me are you a minionmacer? For example in about 20 times I was killing Lupi he always and I mean ALWAYS, each and every time targeted me without switching to anyone trough phases 2 and 3.

4) Love my class and ill continue to play it. Like ill stop playing a class because it didn’t get buffed in the last patch lol. This tread is pointless… The issues and bugs will be fixed in their due time and classes will be balanced more thoroughly when game reaches certain maturity. I f someone wants to stop playing a class or quit the game no one stops you, no need informing everyone on the forums about it.

Oh I love this RP stuff here’s mine:

Gravelord Nito -First among the dead
Blood Legion Necromancer
Revered as much as feared among the legion, it is said he was captured with over a half of his regiment by flame legion and burnt on a sacrificial pyre but he did not die… When the legion stormed the flame camp to rescue the prisoners they found everyone dead and camp raised to the ground, only Nito stood among the ashes.

-They laughed when I promised they shall suffer throughout eternity, they don’t seem to find it funny anymore. -Gravelord Nito

Gravelord Nito -First among the dead
Blood Legion Necromancer

Catcrafter.3917:

Wow that sucks, am lucky am on EU server…

Never happened to me, neither any of my friends complained it happened to them…

Wow that sucks, am lucky am on EU server…

Quaz.4931:

I am very confused by this question then, I read it as You were completing an area, with map chat on seeing if anyone was spamming “lfg” for a dungeon you wanted to do, but no one did. Then you when you went to lions arch, people spammed “lfg” for all sorts of dungeons and you thought you map chat was broken in the map you were completing?

Sounds to me, from your description, that no one was talking in the area you were completing on map chat, but in the lions arch map chat people were.

I fought that map chat is worldwide lol, not just for that area…

Blarrg.8305:

Well, given that LA and what ever Charr area you were in are 2 different maps, it makes perfect sense. Map chat is not worldwide, it only broadcasts in the area you are in.

I didn’t know that… No i really didn’t, thanks for clarifying…

Quaz.4931:

People use lions arch to create groups for all dungeons, as well as Fractals dungeon (which was added recently and is very popular as it gives the best drops and is the only place to get the new tier of armour)

Hmmmmm? Am talking about “MAP” chat…

Yesterday I was in some charr area for few hours doing map completion and waiting if someone perhaps would write lfg for dungeon that I want and not a single person wrote anything. When i ported to lion’s arch in 5min about 20 map messages came up from people lfg-ing something IN MAP CHAT. So I wanted to know is this a bug or just incredibly unlikely coincidence?

Well the easiest way is to buy gems for $$ then just convert them to gold it should take you about 2min, few thousand $$ should give you enough gold for any future play.

OK, then ill kite them I can kite forever

Djemo.7153:

Ok so im lvling my 5th alt as a Necro and what really bothers me is the hate i read not only here but around the net about similar builds to the one i am planning on doing.

I thought of something like this:
20spite 30death 20blood

Blood Fiend/Bone Minions/Bone Fiend/Flesh Wurm (changed to Plague Signet form time to time)/Flesh Golem.
Also using a staff.

I know people will probably hate on me for running this but this is the only way i really wanna play this class.
I chose the Necro to be just that, a Necro.

Also if you had to throw out a ETA as to when minions will get viable what would you say it would be.
Next patch? The one after that? Never?

Don’t get discouraged my friend, I run identical traits as you do with all the minions (opting for flesh worm instead of shadow fiend) I absolutely love it and use it in pve pvp www. There is no other way I ever want to play necro Ignore the hate and show everyone how insanely good this build actually is when played right!
I hope the AI will get fixed at 14th! (A man can dream can he?)

Mr. Soulzier what you’ve just said… Is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having read it.
-its a qoute from somewhere but it sums it just right

My Necromancer is from blood legion. I imagine them to be dressed something like this:
Color scheme is Midinght Ice and Blood.

Divinity is more for jack of all trades builds, while ruby’s are more for glass cannon builds.
Also why use Ruby orbs when you can use Ruby Jewels?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Exquisite_Ruby_Jewel

This is Gravelord Catcrafter!

NO! NOT NOW NOT EVER! It will never happen, if you don’t understand what rpg stands in mmorpg go play tetris and stop wasting everyone’s time on the forums.

I play exclusively minionmacer, I believe they need only 3 things.
1.Improved AI with FOCUS TARGET button.
The lack in their AI code causes a severe loss of dps in this build. Also, sometimes you want your minions to attack one target while you are doing something else or dps-ing other target.
2.Out of battle REGENERATION.
You want them to be fresh and ready for next battle, you don’t want to forget to resummon them and see them dying from first hit.
3.Scale with PLAYER STATS.
This is needed to promote build diversity, for example you have 2 minionmacers one builds vitality and toughness or healling power and wants his minion to be tanky and live long while other goes for power/crit build wants them to be glass cannons that can crit, counting on traits like death nova when they die. They would both be minionmacers but with very different play stiles.

@OP
I believe you haven’t considered some things while writhing your post on this particular subject.
1st. You haven’t taken in consideration the skill of a particular player/group. For example some “trash” mobs in certain dungeons can be actually tougher then the boss fight at the end. You mentioned that when you go with your experienced party it takes you 30sec-1min to kill some mobs, well in more inexperienced and random groups those mobs can result in many deaths and lots of backtracking from waypoints in some more extreme cases I have seen dungeon runs that in average last from 30-45 min get prolonged to 1.5-2h sometimes even longer and of course player mentality has adapted to this particular issue by eliminating the chance of it to happen thus simply skipping mobs. Nobody wants to be stuck in the same dungeon path for 3h because your teammates are dying from few hits by an average mob. Because this is something you cannot control in random parties.
2nd. Have you considered how repetitive dungeon runs may become? Lets say someone wants 3 weapons and full gear from some dungeon, that’s cca 1500 tokens with DR on the same paths in the same server day and that there are some pretty tough and long dungeons that even for exp players last more than hour. I understand that dungeon runs are fun for you and you dont want to miss on opportunity to earn some extra loot along the way, but can you see how they might be less fun for someone who has to do 25+ runs in the SAME dungeon? And that someone I assure you does not want to spend his or hers whole day doing only that that particular aspect of the game?
3rd. There are players like me that have hit the end game wall. I have absolutely everything I wanted on my Character whether it’s the gear (both stats wise and appearance wise) 100% map completion and have completed all self imposed goals i wanted to achieve in the game. I am placed in front of 2 options. 1st: I can stop playing the game completely or focus on pvp and www aspects of it and 2nd: log in once and awhile and do some content for fun like: dungeons, dragons or jumping puzzles or what not. Someone like me doesn’t care if we kill mobs or not because I don’t need money nor loot from them so why bother? Because the only thing that can offer me remotely any challenge are boss fights. Why not skip?
4th. There are many people who don’t like dungeons, they simply find that particular aspect of the game not to their liking yet they are “forced” into doing them because they want that “cool” looking armor that can only be obtained that way. Do you see why someone like that would want to skip as much of it as possible and be done with it as fast as he can?
5th. Reason is simple: killing dungeon trash isn’t fun. They are pretty much like any other mobs in the world with increased health pool, not many people enjoy standing in one place auto attacking and waiting for some mob with million health to die.

http://www.gw2armor.com/human/male/arah/heavy/display.php
This page is great for seeing how ur character might look in different sets. Hope you find some gauntlets there!

cargan.5689:

Catcrafter.3917:

Oh that sucks man… There goes my grinding income, now all i have left is combining rare pets to get exotic ones to earn money.

Is that even legal, does PETA know what you are doing?

Now i know who to blame.

OMG I loled so hard and get an idea. Imagine that only on April 1st, when you put 4random pets into the mystic forge you have a chance to get a mini Orrian Abomination stiched from the pets you put in!

fall.8736:

Why don’t you add race change in your total makeover? I would really enjoy changing my race, I know the story wouldnt be the right one but still. Please make it possible

Why don’t you start a new character? I believe you would really enjoy that as well.