Guild Wars 2

Cerby.1069:

Chase.2798:

Cerby.1069:

Zerker is a gimmick spec, everyone knows how to counter most of it by now. Running Gunflame gives you the most viable way to deal with the meta in wvsw but its kitten sniper build.

You should know how to counter every elite by now…js

Mmkay.

Dh – use an unblockable, dodge their trap and clear condi immediately cause it BURNS
chrono – cleave, dodge, cleave, dodge….repeat till some1 dies
druid – cleave, dodge, cleave, dodge…..repeat until nobody dies.
Rev – use an unblockable, burst them
berserker – dodge when red flames happen
daredevil – cleave air, dodge, and block while they are stealthed; use unblockable
scrapper – facepalm till some1 dies.
Tempest – Run condi or jump off a cliff
reaper – cleave cleave cleave….make them use their dodge then cleaveee. use blocks/endurepains when in reaper form.

What does Js mean? Jesus?

Knowing how to counter something doesn’t mean I CAN counter it with warrior’s skillpool….dats kind of the point of the thread. Also explain to me how to counter a druid…like you just chase and whack them with ur gs all day, u cant stop their heals or anything and most of ur combo won’t matter, u just whack them indiscriminately and hope they haven’t stacked enough damage reduction and regen to make it impossible.

It means just saying lol and every class has a counter and yes one build of warrior might not counter everything but neither does any other classes one build…every profession has professions they are strong and weak against and have ones that are strong or weak aginst them. I think with the amount of blocks, stunbreaks, and condi mitigation warrior has it is in a better spot then a lot.
Edit:now since adrenal health change

Cerby.1069:

Zerker is a gimmick spec, everyone knows how to counter most of it by now. Running Gunflame gives you the most viable way to deal with the meta in wvsw but its kitten sniper build.

You should know how to counter every elite by now…js

I would try both exiting and reloading game…idk

Cant queue then add someone to party…gotta make party then queue…what im guessing happened is you started queue when he was joining or before he accepted invite…just a guess tho

Yasha.5963:

I have noticed that I can easily kill nearly all rangers, when I see one on the enemy team I feel great because its almost a guaranteed free kill. Of course there are some very talented players who are good at getting away or kiting, but in 100 games I might see 2 of those.

In contrast it seems either the other classes are very strong or are only played by very skilled players. With most of the other classes its more like out of 100 games I might see 2-5 players that seem to be weak and the rest are either unkillable (condi warrior, some ele builds, and most engis) or at the least a challenge.

What build/ profession do you play? You might be playing a counter

They did nerf the output of eotm i believe. ..not sure if anyone can verify

Spartacus.3192:

You have 586 ranked wins out of 1561 ranked games played since you started this account. 37.5% win rate. I dont think this is all ANET’s fault here.

Im glad someone else noticed this

Stigi.9357:

Meta works fine atm. Don’t see any reason to use another build.

The shout meta build? That was outdated when i started playing?

Edit: nvm i thought this was a wvw forum lol

The demozerker on metabattle.com with a few changes is pretty good, otherwise there is a lot of power builds for warrior and all are pretty due to the change to ah

Idk but it would be funny if they did the opposite of hammer and make a range weapon melee lol

I really like something like this for commanding…it is super tanky(commanders job is to stay alive and command), it doesnt provide much for damage but should be able to withstand most bombs and with high toughness and vitality it.should be able to survive pick attempts…would work best with skilled back line

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAS8enMdAlhgdhAmkC0hglrA79zmaftIBgEQqTJH06qBA-TVCGABDcQAcS5H+PAAAOCAlpb4e1f2TJI67PkwFAIAACwN3Z2sODO6RP6RP6R7m38m38m3sUAFJ0C-w

This isnt what i run but i think it would be a lot better then what i do if you didny have to worry about damage

Only a week in to a 3 month season…

infinitenoah.8296:

I’ll be blunt with you Anet: The lobby room is hideous.

Just joking. But the roon could use a rework. Lions arch is beautiful, so why can’t the PvP lobby be just as gorgeous?

Discuss what you think should be done to make the room much less if an eyesore.

It would be nice to get a guild area and a crafting area in the pvp lobby…there is soo much unused space atm

fishball.7204:

Really? The queue times in ruby this season were worse than my queue times in legendary last season lol.

Rip q times rip rip rip.

Thats because half the good players are playing overwatch atm

Better question why are you using wells in pvp?

Really well done natar :-)

Substance E.4852:

Chase.2798:

So i have been running protect me instead of glyph of equality…why is glyph of equality the meta over protect me?

Instantaneous, 2s, AoE daze is incredibly powerful. It also works with Verdant Etching which is still a plus even after the nerf.

Tragic Positive.9356:

Chase.2798:

Does signet of the wild affect af regen?

It does.

You also get Af generation from regen food if in WvW, though Mussels Gnashblade is probably a better choice overall.

Thanks for letting me know, i havent done too much outside of pvp on mybranger in wvw i usually go war might have to check that out tho

So i have been running protect me instead of glyph of equality…why is glyph of equality the meta over protect me?

4 day break made you fall behind in pips thus not as good of opponents thus bad point gain id guess

Does signet of the wild affect af regen?

InsaneQR.7412:

Chase.2798:

I have been wondering if runes of the monk’s heal gains astral force in the same way that rune of the dolyak’s hps does…

If so how does it compare, is the heal once every 15s(ish) comparable in af regen and health generation? I was thinking if the heals are similar runes of the monk might be better at af generation due to it also affecting allies…plus it improves your healing to allies making heals give 10% more af per heal.
I realize your vitality and toughness will go down as well and that is a downfall of the tradeoff…

Actually i had made good experience with dwayna runes, they give you nearly perma regen and also allies which leads to a lot of AF.

I might have to try those

My Sweet Lily.1952:

You don’t gain AF from the amount you heal but from the number of applications, which is why constantly ticking heal from Dolyak runes is better than 1 heal every 15s from Monk’s. Also 10% outgoing healing isn’t going to improve your AF generation.

Thanks for the explanation

dominik.9721:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

War dosent do well 1v1 vs condi mes. Too many clones

Dear lord…. Both power and condi Berserker hard counters condi chrono.

The presence of clones makes life much easier for war because there’s always something for his burst skills to hit.

Certain mes builds are great for countering war (blind heavy, for example).

Condition berserker defintly does not counter carrion chrono. in fact chrono and marauder scrapper are currently the only classes that can win fights on point against condition warrior 1v1 – at least with reference to a skill lvl that isn’t garbage. Idk about power warrior, but it isn’t viable on a higher lvl anyways, so who cares.

And yea the skill already was broken before the latest patches but nobody really cared because warrior wasn’t viable. Now it is -so enjoy the powercreep, the peeps did ask for.

How does condi war not counter condi chrono…it can have resistance for 20 of the first 26s of a fight then >30% of the time after(not to mention the condi clears on weapon swap and per burst skill hit) , any warrior build counters any condi build in a 1v1 atm…and saying it doesnt is crazy.

I have been wondering if runes of the monk’s heal gains astral force in the same way that rune of the dolyak’s hps does…

If so how does it compare, is the heal once every 15s(ish) comparable in af regen and health generation? I was thinking if the heals are similar runes of the monk might be better at af generation due to it also affecting allies…plus it improves your healing to allies making heals give 10% more af per heal.
I realize your vitality and toughness will go down as well and that is a downfall of the tradeoff…

Its a team based game mode…

I like either a bowl of curry butternut squash soup or bowl of sweet and spicy butternut squash soup…depends on what class i am running with if solo i will sometimes go plate of truffle steak…all 3 are for the stat boosts

I run hoelbrek runes on my build really helps shed those condi stacks while in berserker stance

Ross Biddle.2367:

I’m running it. Build in sig.

Someone’s got to stand up to all those condi wars

I’ve also vs’d a few power wars. They weren’t inspiring

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Berserker_-_Demozerker

Fyi this build has the same name as yours incase you want to change it

I love my axe/shield/gs warrior…it is way more fast paced and fun to play then any condi build i have found (even though mace/lb is pretty fun) most people are expecting condi when they see a warrior now which i think makes it that much stronger

He changes his build quite often…do you know any specifics?

yanoch.7051:

After Hot I have guildies that kept playing their warriors. I stopped playing GW2 cause I really got bored. They reached pretty high tier in S2 and they are really good players. To succeed they had to duel and learn every classes. When you are bottom tier class you can’t impose your play style and has to react to better classes offend played by worst players.

They were pretty good pre patch. Since the warrior sustain buff they are having so much fun and pretty much nothing stand in their way. (they don’t like condi builds)

I also hate condi build TBH. The good thing is that this and thieve buff will definitively shake the meta. Eventually other players will learn how to deal with this.

What are the current bottom tier class now?

Guardian

Shimotsuki.6580:

Since I don’t have HoT, are there any good classes/builds I can get by with the basic set?

Warrior without the elite spec is probably in the best spot atm being you can still take discipline and defense and trade out strength for beserker…you still have the regen your burst skills are just less frequent

trunks.5249:

Chase.2798:

trunks.5249:

i had a thief yesterday tell me to go kill myself after killing him three times and taking his cap. then today i beat a warrior i said gf .when him and a team mate killed me he told me to get rekt what ever that means lol . can not forget about being called a hacker for getting up before another guy . what are the things people have said to you guys after beating them?

I had someone freak on me in the way…he thought gf meant get kittened rather then good fight

lmfao really? did you tell him what you meant or let him think it?

I told him….figured it was better he know for future situations then me to be an kitten for a few mins. Lol

trunks.5249:

i had a thief yesterday tell me to go kill myself after killing him three times and taking his cap. then today i beat a warrior i said gf .when him and a team mate killed me he told me to get rekt what ever that means lol . can not forget about being called a hacker for getting up before another guy . what are the things people have said to you guys after beating them?

I had someone freak on me in the way…he thought gf meant get kittened rather then good fight

They should do an ecto exchange and put a magic toilet in the pvp area do we can gamble when not in a match lol

emkelly.2371:

oh. HAH! no wonder i never figured it out. I only every post in excess lol

I had to ask someone what it meant the first time i saw it lol

Umm…have fun?

emkelly.2371:

What is 15 chars supposed to mean?

15 characters…you need 15 characters to post

Metabattle.com

15

Has this been fixed?

Skittledness.5106:

Typically with all bunker builds newer players seemed to believe that all bunker builds a op and seeming less brainless to play.Ele on the other hand is not a a bunker(although it can sustain 1v2 for awhile just like most meta classes).Ele is a support class which is vital to create stability and something you have to play around.

Without a dedicated point, support games are chaos.Rotations are no longer as significant and you can literally zerg the map and not actually have to worry about defending nodes and splitting correctly.

Bunkers create stability and when bunkers go, so does strategy and the ability to punish mistakes.

That being said if you look at the meta there are only 2 support professions:tempest/druid. Each of these classes has significant weakness such that druids vulnerablilty to +1s by thief/power rev(menders amulet= no toughness) and spike dmg while ele is very vulnerable to cc lock/condi burst(cleric amulet 13khp)

While eles and druid support capability are pretty game changing atm until Anet decides to either tone down the sustain and damage together and cannot nerf one side and not the other or you either have complete chaos or season 1(bunker mes meta) all over again.

Thanks for reading! Jeffi out

Bunkers/bruisers/supports are due to the game style…conquest promotes builds that can hold onto a point as long as possible if you remove ele and druid from the mix you will see new bunkers and supports become meta such as banner/shout warrior, and bunker dh or you would see everyone taking tankier amulets/runes/sigils and traits to make up the support loss.

2 ways to get it….1)unlock by getting hero points in pve…can find maps to do it online quickly
2)unlock by proofs of heroics in wvw…not as grindy, will take more time i believe but is more fun imo

Eu im guessing being you put deutsch as your second language?

Zelulose.8695:

Until they remove sinister amulet or any of those condition power amulets mesmer will be fine. Infact, sinister is probably better if you know how to use your defenses and not waste them. I don’t understand the logic they had when they implemented a pure power precision condition damage amulet.

Does anyone actually use sinister i dont think ive ever seen a pvp build that uses it

Zelulose.8695:

Omega Zoa.3859:

Lol this thread turned into a “nerf the rev” yes nerf it into the ground like the warrior and lets completely ignore the mesmers who pretty much controlled pvp since forever, and the expac only boosted that fact.

Mesmer will get nerfed its a gurantee. I just hope they nerf condition and now power damage and they rework the inspiration trait-line cause.. Idk.. condition removal damage reduction, and healing on shatter…. is kind of broken for one trait-line to have. This is coming from a former mesmer main.

Removing mercenary is a mesmer nerf lol

Josh XT.6053:

Condi warrior doesn’t seem to be too strong anymore these days in comparison to a warrior running Marauders, cavalier, zerker or a mix of those. It used to be really good, but there is so much condi clear out there now that raw damage seems to be the better way to go for warrior.

Here is my roaming build: http://asphyxia.tv/wvw-roaming-warrior-build/

I run axe/mace and rifle with Cavalier armor and zerker trinkets. If I am feeling like being a little more squishy I will run marauder armor and zerker trinkets. Both are a good combination.

This build is not that great, shield>mace offhand, no condi clears except on weapon swap and no berserker stance. It also doesnt use smash brawler which is a huge loss in dps just to get stab when entering berserker. Very little might generation, it can create a lot of single target vulnerability but other then it seems to be sub par as it wont survive long against any condi class. Might i recommend this if you want a lil better build?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAU3enMdAlkidhAmhAElilqA7d0mantIFgGQAQpHE7yBA-TlCEQBG4BAki9HajGCAcwAknOA3pZwhK/Uk6PbUJIBuiABAQAu5NzmtZbezM0hO0hO0h2Nv5Nv5QvZpAiYrF-w

Better condi clears, higher damage output, better might generation, and frontline worthy toughness and vitality

As someone who picked up guardian for commanding in wvw id love to see a different playstyle open up, i dont like playing traps in pvp so i would be cool if they shaved them down a little bit as long as they gave us a significant boost to compensate…like make spirit weapons usable or shouts sligtly better or meditations do more as i feel they are all becoming outdated compared to the tools other classes are getting. And i like my utilities to provide more utility instead of just damage

Viper>sinister for hybrid builds…id try something like this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAT8fnMdAdhgVhAmkCElilqADZx1ACAK9gYXO4d0uajtA-TVSGQBnb/hEq8jAHEgPqEMfq/AgLAgBOCAo5BAkOdDBAQAu5MzmlZwRP6RP6RPa38m3cmzcmlCAilVA-w

It has higher boon uptime, longer condi durations, higher power, higher toughness, higher vitality and better utilities for roaming…should do more direct damage, more condi damage with durations extended, and be slightly tankier if not more so then that with almost 100% resistance uptime and double endure pain with adrenal health. The biggest issue will be escaping with no gs and no warhorn, also no balanced stance.
You can take balanced stance or dolyak signet over outrage…dolyak if you want to be tankier, balanced stance if you want access to swiftness

I thought this was me screwing up the other day…

Great idea for pug groups