Guild Wars 2

Azariah.8420:

Greep.6394:

People who dismiss the idea outright just aren’t thinking it through. We still have free transfers, use them if needed. This would even out the population considerably, there would only be queue for people who “want” queues for the sake of winning, just as there is now. Agreed of course that they essentially need “guild transfers” atm.

The only downside is the unofficial oceanic server would get utterly screwed. They would have to completely disband. I’m honestly not sure if this is necessarily a bad thing at this point, though, as staying all in one server is only making their matches boring for themselves. I know for darned certain if I was australian I wouldn’t be on that server.

Eh? maybe you should try being on this server, our last few weeks of fighting have been great fun, was only boring while we were matched up with lower tier servers without night crews. T2 amd T1 have given great competition.

On a related note, I agree that some kind of pop control needs to be implemented as, as stated 100vs10 is not fun, BUT the problem I see with this one is, if at reset everyone is even in pop, and one server starts winning, the other 2 will start leaving(like they always do), thus reducing the overall number of people in wvw,

Then the people that were already in on the winning side, will just stay(unless you force them out) cap everything, and it snowballs, people on the losing side will not come back in, new people on the winning side cannot get in. I think when it comes to queues the servers with less pop in wvw should get in first over servers with more people already(to within a certain number, too small a gap and it would just be silly)

they are not going to stay if they own 100% of the map and have nothing to do or have to run across the whole map to get back to the battle when they die

there would be a limit of something like 25 before this even becomes active

so 1 server could have 25v1v2 players

the players controling the whole map leave faster then the defenders alot of the time there is 4 wvw maps

Xavier.2176:

Daish.6139:

the WvW Population needs to be balanced out or there is going to be alot of major issues

keep it simple since there are 3 teams no 1 team should out number the other 2 teams combined

say Red has 15 players and Blue has 20 players
Green should have a limit of 35 placed on them

I do want to see more balance in WvWvW, but this is the worst possible idea ever. A server should never be punished just for having more players.

The best and only reasonable way to help the outmanned servers is to make the Outmanned Buff useful and helpful. It would be a simple change for Anet to do, I have no idea why they haven’t done it already. For example, make the Outmanned Buff to give the outmanned side some stat boosts so they do have a chance to fight against bigger numbers. Also, it would be great if upgrades would cost less for the outmanned side because who sane person would waste money on upgrades if they know the money will just go to waste.

My idea would be to have a Gradual Outmanned system like this for example:

Slightly Outmanned ( +10% to all stats, -25% upgrade costs)
Outmanned ( +20% to all stats, -50% upgrade costs)
Seriously Outmanned ( +30% to all stats, -75% upgrade costs)

I know it’s not a perfect solution, but it’s the only reasonable one in my opinion. An outmanned buff working like that would give the outmanned server a better chance to fight against big numbers and would probably make more people join the battle and upgrade towers/keeps due to lower upgrade costs.

Another good idea that caught my eye in these forums some time ago was an idea of a NPC Army that generates for the outmanned server and randomly attacks enemy camps/towers/keeps to help the outmanned server. The NPC Army wouldn’t be anything too strong, but a serious enough threat to keep the spawn camping enemy server busy every now and then. For example, the army could be easily taken care of with a few siege weapons and defenders, but an unmanned tower/keep with no upgrades would fall to this NPC Army.

I know this one is much more harder to implement and I don’t know if it is even possible, but it would give some much needed help for the outmanned side and also make the PvDooring side to have at least some challenge if all the human players have gone to sleep.

that never works your thinking like a PVE gamer

you havent been around much PVP if you think something like that would work

Shinigami.5932:

I couldn’t disagree more. If you want strictly equal player numbers, play spvp. Part of wvwvw is being dynamic and open.

your acting like there is not already a cap

you have to start queueing up around 50-60 players no more then 50-60 can enter per team

there are 3 teams the team with more players on the server can still have as many as both the other 2 servers COMBINED

not sure if you know what dynamic is

well Daish can see WvW dieing off more and more without something like this

better then a respawn timer

every time they are downed they become weaker

Daish “thinks”

that the Karka boss will be in the open LionGuard and us will fight it the Cannons/ players will break off the outer shell armor of the Karka

the Karka will run back into its hive we will chase after it

the Karka will go up to the top level

the Karka will be damaged so badly by the players and Lionguard that she will fall off the ledge down the hive and break though the ground landing in Larva and die

it will be Monday in Australia when it is Sunday in the US that is when Sea of Sorrows will go down hill even trying to night cap

Azariah.8420:

Daish makes a lot of predictions(like losing the Halloween week), Daish is generally wrong.

Nobody cares what you say anymore, because the only thing you seem capable of doing is sitting in a map(or the forums) and being snarky. One day I hope to see you contribute something useful to a conversation, but you’ll understand if I don’t hold my breath.

This match has so far been great fun, will be interesting to see how the week unfolds.

Daish just explained whats going to cause SoS to fail

when you know whats causing the failure it helps you improve

if you dont know why your failing it takes much longer to fix the issues

Dixa.6017:

Daish.6139:

RiversOnFire.3607:

Daish.6139:

Sea of Sorrows is going to get owned

Sea of Sorrows has so many bad commanders they dont even know when to switch maps

so many bad guilds like FoE and pW who will sit and defend something with 10-15 players even if there is no risk of it being lost

Daish is going to avoid playing WvW this week

perfect, last time u left when we losing 30k during halloween . we turn dominating everything immediately, It was a big big win. glad you wont show up again next week.

thank god. there wont be meaningless argument between commanders anymore. No commanders will be pssed off and leave the BL, we will fight tight as one, as we always did when diash was not around.

And plz, keep out of WvW next week, coz everytime you said you leaving, you came back 2 or 3 days later when we started winning.

And when you not in WvW, please dont judge other commanders on chatbox, every commanders trying to ignore you and make sure the community go well.

Sea of Sorrows rises with or without you, good player or normal players they are our brothers. Large guilds or small guilds they are all part of our family. Winning or losing we will keep fighting, ET humiliated us and now they fall, IoJ crushed us and now they lost 3 weeks in a row.

We are here because we kept fighting, we will guard our world no matter what. This is our world and everyone has the right to fight for it, its our duty, its our honor.

JQ and SBI, listen up, you are better or not we dont care, but we are coming.

Sea of Sorrows has only got this high so far because of night caping at prime time SoS loses almost everything

if SoS wants to hold stuff at prime time they need to work out how to move maps spreading across 4 maps and fighting WvW as a 2v1 wont proably wont work in tier 1

u have fun Daish is going to play some planetside 2

Daish there is a reason why we are spread out and why you don’t understand what’s going on. they are related.

every week the guild leaders and guild commanders get together and decide which borderland that guild will be in charge of and at what time zone. every week it’s different.

we are spread out because we – smartly – have been making sure the strong guilds like MERC, PRX, Tysm, FOE and more are all utilizing their members to ensure maximum coverage.

you are not invited or included in this discussion along with mz pure and a handful of others because you refuse to work together. as soon as you enter a map you expect everyone to follow you just because you paid 100g for a title and an achievement instead of asking what the current commanders are doing.

all you do is criticize. because of this you are not part of the discussions had during these meetings. you are a non-factor to SoS and worst of all most of your tactical advice is usually pretty bad.

i’m sure you’ll respond to this in your usual first person snarkiness but know this – the majority of SoS WvW’ers have taken measure of you and no longer care.

The best thing you can do is to cooperate with people instead doing your own thing or constantly belittling people in map chat.

as a head-start SoS’er i’m glad we have clawed our way up to the top. our oceanic players tend to be more into pve and i’m sure this once in a gamelife event combined with the free trial is going to make any wvw presence this weekend spotty at best just like halloween. maybe worse. i ignored halloween because it comes every year. this one i can’t ignore personally, so you won’t be seeing Tricky Smurf on the battlefield before monday.

your Alliance has almost no real Commanders “main” guilds like FOE sit in towers with the Commander icon on saying “my guild is holding this tower” with 5-10 players while the server loses keeps (IN THE SAME MAP)

if you keep doing what your doing spreading out its only going to hurt Sea of Sorrows and make players leave the server on mass

your Alliance would sit in maps holding 1 tower when another Borderlands map would lose 1-2 keep’s (explain what the point of that is?)

your Alliance constantly ends up attacking both servers and has no idea how to Manipulate the other servers or Sacrifice to your advantage

Sea of Sorrows gets most of its points from night caping and the more spread out you are the less PUG/RANDOM players that you will have join WvW on our server it will be like self destructing

Daish has done alot for SoS trying to teach players and commanders how WvW works but Daish is done for now

Daish only just learnt that Follower’s list can only show around 200 players Daish’s Follower list hit 200 players 3-4 weeks ago wonder how many players are on it

Clip.6845:

then mix it up :d

‘follow’ ‘on me’ ‘we leave in 2sec’ ‘to longview’ ‘supply first’

not sure how it works but even if you start getting muted for saying “Follow” then say “Follow me” you will get muted again

just simple stuff like “[Cliffside Tower] is under attack” saying that once every few min will end up getting you muted

EnoLive.2367:

Simple way round this is to use Squad Chat.
That’s the real reason for Commanders Icon and not as a lot of people seem to think that it is the lord and master of the map.
remember ArenaNet stated that WvWvW was capable of holding up to 2000 players thats 500 per map at 166 per side aprox.
If used correctly each squad could be placed in allotted areas rather than mindless zergs.
But I quite agree with you Muting on WvWvW is not needed as there have been times when I myself have needed to call for backup yet couldn’t do so because of the mute, result I get trolled for the loss of the area.

lol you must not WvW much there is nowhere even close to 166 players on 1 team

50-60 players is most ive seen on the 1 team

Squad chat is next to worthless btw because WvW W=World not Guild vs Guild everyone needs to work togeather having only 1 Commander icon show up will make it harder to explain where you need to be or whats happening

Azure Prower.8701:

Daish.6139:

WvW needs a king of the hill map

That would be the jumping puzzle in EB.

needs its own map with 1 hour reset on the chest small camp campture zone like a supply camp at the chest

less loot then the EB jumping puzzle chest =P

preset rollouts = 60 mesmers vs 60 mesmers vs 60 mesmers

MvMvM PVP

LHound.8964:

Agree

Commanders should be able to message a lot!

its got nothing to do with the ammount of MSG’s its if you say the same text like if you say Follow 4 times within 10min you get muted for 30 seconds

good work Anet your making it almost impossible for Commanders to lead in WvW without wanting to quit this game

Commanders have to say the same thing alot EXAMPLE : “Follow” “Hills is under attack” “Waypoint back to the Garrison” and so on the game has been getting Commanders muted for weeks

this last Patch seems to of increased how often you will get muted in Say Team and Map chat making it very hard to give information to your server

every time your muted you get a 30 second mute if you type something within that 30 seconds the timer resets

Daish is getting really sick of stuff like this urge to quit rising

WvW needs a king of the hill map

the server Daish is on is ranked 4 not dead last

the player numbers are always changeing it would be much more enjoyable to have a real battle

playing the game = enjoyable

if you dont have fun playing a game and only playing for rewards there is something wrong with you

all 4 maps on Sea of Sorrows have queues that are hours long now

the last few days at this time we only had enough players to fill up 2-3 out of the 4 WvW maps

Daish is 1 of the best Commanders on Sea of Sorrows

Kita.7819:

ded map ded gaem.

some maps are always going to be dead though the week even if its prime time

we need a way to disable the points

we need all 4 maps on the Weekends all of the maps will be full

Shajin.5492:

Doesn’t work. If the points are turned off for a map your enemy controls, you will never go there to cap the stuff back because it’s better off not counting. So you’ll never get rid of outmanned, and the spiral continues.

people don’t want to sit in Lions Arch waiting for Eternal Battlegrounds queue to pop if they are interested they are going to join a Borderlands map

most players do not play WvW for the points its just 1 of the main factors to do with morale of the players being active

when big Guilds/Alliances are working together and set times or Rally players to hit a Enemy Borderlands they can go into a map that’s 100% controlled and give the other server a real fight

also on the weekends every WvW map has a queue on it all 4 maps are full so there wont be any outmanned buff there

its more about off-peak times

do you enjoy a 50v50 battle or do you enjoy when your server is 25vs50 with no chance of pushing out at all and spend all your time running supplys

its best to keep things simple Kalemar

if 2 out of 3 teams have the Outmanned buff = no points from that map

making things complicated just causes more problems

taking a fully upgraded keep full of supplys is very hard the high population servers are going to have a big advantage still when the lower population servers enter the map and turns point’s back on

Grit.9061:

I don’t know why I bother replying to your threads… honestly man, lol.

When your server is getting completely beat down on one map, they are always going to consolidate and move to another map where you do have some presence. That’s what we do. They don’t need the points to be “turned off” for that to happen, it happens naturally.

your point of view is broken

when your server is getting completely beat down its because the other server is out numbering your 99% of the time the other 1% of the time its because both the other servers are focusing on your spawn

if there are 2 active servers in the Borderlands map points will be counted

but if there is only 1 Active server nobody attacking points should be turned off now that orbs no longer exist

why should a server get points from holding a map that they have none to defend against?

“we dont have anything and keep getting camped because they have 50 players and we have 20” there will be a reason for those players to leave that map instead of constantly dieing in a unwinable battle

those players if points are turned off are more likely to leave and join another boaderlands with players from their own server rather then slowly dieing off and quiting WvW for the day

Gisei.5749:

How about the whole idea of Commander is simply removed from the game? Refunds to those who purchased of course. Re-implement squads in some other fashion.

Natural leaders will rise up without the help of an empty icon.

Then again, watching some commanders do their thing is amusing.

when you join a Commanders Squad all the other Commander icons disapear do you play WvW? players get to make a choice on who they follow

Grit.9061:

Understand that the “strength” of many servers exists in being able to come online in the wee hours of the night to take back all of the stuff that they lost during the day, effectively balancing the match. Not every community has a plethora of players in the same timezone that you do.

Bottom line, it’s a 24/7 war. You have to learn to deal with that. If you have the outmanned buff on a borderlands, that means that your forces are concentrated elsewhere.. and your enemy has the outmanned buff on THAT map.

its not stoping the battle from 24/7 servers can still come online in the “wee hours” and destory all the upgrades the other sever has spent so much time and money on to balance the match

Bottom Line for you maybe getting points when you have no enemy in a map and own 100% of it is a bad thing its pushing players away from WvW and causing them to spread out across all 4 maps instead of filling 1-2-3

Bottom line for you is maybe you should learn to play instead of just out numbering the other team to win

Daevinia.9184:

Borderlands = crucial

Besides, it’s always nice to have a change of scenery…

nothing is stoping you from playing on them

are you saying playing vs 0 players is only enjoyable if you get points from it with nobody to fight ?

Daish thinks SoS need to learn when to Sacrafice its their major flaw at the moment

the Dominating Server still has to follow the map Cap they cant just put 300 players into 1 Map they cant just roll in every map 99% of the time the Dominating server is only dominating because they have more players then the other servers

all 3 servers are more likely to be drawn into the same Borderlands map with it (after Eternal Battlegrounds is filled) thats going to make it a hell of alot more enjoyable

its also going to bring the scores for that week closer togeather and encorage more compeition instead of a server going “we are to far behind its pointless lets give up”

if anyone can explain it simpler then this go for it———————

say
Red has 250 players
Blue has 100 players
Green has 100 players

and lets say there is a 50 player cap for each WvW map

so the home Borderland for each server has the best starting Location

so lets say 50v50v50 from each server are in Eternal Borderlands nice fun even battle

that leaves 100 red 50 blue 50 green

the 50 Blue will go to their home Borderlands and 50 Red go and fight them

the 50 Green go to their home Borderlands and 50 Red go fight them

Blue and Green will not have to worry about Red’s Borderland map

the last 50 Red would be inside their own home lands but have nobody to vs so the map would be 100% Red

the Green and Blue server would not have to worry about this because the points are not counting

when Blue and Green start getting more players they are more likely to avoid the 10% red boaderland and join in and make 1 of the other 2 Boaderland maps a 1v1v1 because points are counting from that map already

if the 100 players from Green and Blue split across all 4 maps that puts 25 in each map = very frustrating and boring battle

this would focus on the game being more enjoyable and fair when the population numbers are down Commanders would have to use their brain and work out the best maps to rally players into as well

with this System servers that are out numbered could beat servers with more players

at the moment MOST of the winning servers are only winning because they have more players

Gisei.5749:

Yes, punish the winning team for winning…(I’m on the losing team btw)

Then they will quit and the out-manned buff will go away. It’ll make balance. Genius.

who is being punished? when prime time comes around and players enter Boaderlands the stronger team is going to start off with almost everything fully upgraded

why do you think its a good idea to give a server points in a Boaderland map they have nobody attacking them at all? thats boring there is no challenge

if 2 out of 3 teams on a Borderland map has the Outmanned Buff. point gain from that map should be turned off.

this is very very simple and would make the game more enjoyable for almost every server

spreading out between 4 maps and switching around all the time is not enjoyable

because Orbs no longer exist this will work now WvW players from smaller servers or when its off peek this will make WvW much more enjoyable playing in Eternal Battlegrounds without having to worry about Borderlands

Sokina.8041:

Disagree.

1: Gold sinks

2: Commander isn’t about the icon, it’s about commanding.

2A: If you’re on another character and can’t stand NOT having the Icon, it’s a bit childish. Oh, my Guardian is a commander, but when I log onto my Ele, people don’t know I have a commander character and they don’t zerg/follow me. First world problems.

2B: If you’re on another character, and are a good commander, people will still listen
and follow even without the icon.

2C: If you are as famous or as good of a commander as you think, people will realize this by your tactics or…speech patterns. Or you can just say “Hey, I’m _________” on my Ele.

3: You don’t need the icon to command

4: If everyone’s commander icon was account bound, there’d probably be 5 or 6 per server, per map. The people that zerg on commander icons would be split, and army effectiveness would essentially decrease. So kitten no. No No No. I know at least 13 people on my server who are commanders, and I don’t need every single one of them having the icon on characters they’re not even that good with.

4B: Just because someone’s a good WvWer on their guardian and is a commander doesn’t mean you’ll be that great as a Thief one. (Or whatever classes you are)

5: VANITY VANITY VANITY.

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TL;DR: Think about if every single person that had commander status had it on every character they now and forever will have.

Then think about how having 25 commanders would royally kitten up WvW for a team, especially if “Pugs” and “Loners” do nothing but Zerg commander icons. Like I said, they’d be massively split. 2 months later, 50 commander icons. No. No.

If the compulsive need to lead is so strong within you guys, I suggest A) Staying on your character that has it, B ) playing WvW on a character without a silly icon. (Means either issuing verbal commands or, gasp, actually following them instead), or C) Bite the bullet and fork over 100g if it’s so important.

if you knew anything about real Commanding you would know you just posted a bunch of jibberish

1 of the main issues with Commanding is the game muteing you we Commanders do not have enough time to explain every little details leting players know where we are takes up alot of time

Real Commanders get muted more then gold sellers by the in game anti spam system -.-

so yeah nice usless post

Daish is sick of having to log onto his main character because there are no active Commanders in the map

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/69065-fps-plummets-when-contact-list-is-open/

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/59312-huge-fps-slowdown-with-contacts-list-open/

could not find any more posts on the topic anyone know how to fix it ?

every time Daish opens his contact list his FPS will drop to around 3 from 60 its getting very annoying anyone have any idea whats going on?

when Daish is using every other part of the game there is no FPS drop Black Lion Tradeing Company is fine Mail is fine

Daish has around 200 Followers on his contact list
around the time it reached 200 this problem started could it be linked?

almost 1000k karma now -.- so weak

have a mode that takes repair costs out of WvW

but that player cant get any silver from doing events in WvW and receives no loot other then insignias

problem solved

Daish earns gold every week from doing WvW and would never choose that mode =P

alter needs to be immune to damage just like the keep lords are unless doors are broken down

fixed

orbs are very important for WvW they exist because its 1v1v1 and not a 1v1

this need to happen already kids are rageing this would of fixed most of the issues

night caping and guilds transfering every week

mezmer portal should be limited to 5 players the end

PVE

guards exist to assist players not play for players

Daish is on SoS

Daish is on Sea of Sorrows and Daish already explained how to fix wvw

there should be a limit on how many players can join

3 servers Red Blue Green

100 player cap on each server thats what currently exists

say
40 players from Green Queue up
20 players from Red Queue up
100 players from Blue Queue up

Blue should have a cap placed on them of 60 because 40 Green +20 Red = 60 Blue

Blue team is capped at 60 based on the other 2 servers in the 1v1v1

if another player queues up on Red or Green Blue’s cap will be raised by 1 player

this makes the 1v1v1 system much more enjoyable for everyone and players will stop stacking servers

if there are even half the players on the other 2 teams there will be no cap placed at all 50+50 = 100 other then the default cap that has existed the whole time

as the numbers go up and down the cap placed on the team with the most players will adjust

Daish has spoken

Siofra Crumble.2098:

Daish.6139:

kingxcon.5607:

Im jealous so i took kitten of my Character Aswell. Rolf

not much time for Daish to loot bags or finish off players always trying to rush into the other team trying the pull the zerg with him =P looks like u hang back alot

Siofra would like to point out that you do not need to finish off players to get kills/lootbags, just a fair amount of damage.

you dont get loot bags when your dead even if you have done a good ammount of damage to a player and they are finished off without leaving combat

Daish would like to point that out

whats a Capulet?

kingxcon.5607:

Im jealous so i took kitten of my Character Aswell. Rolf

not much time for Daish to loot bags or finish off players always trying to rush into the other team trying the pull the zerg with him =P looks like u hang back alot

apt.9184:

Leader Mara from SoR hands down! I am on SoR, so far I don’t know any other commander that has been so informative and detailed about there battle plans in map chat. Whenever she sets out a task it usually is successful, the only time it fails is when people do not listen. So Leader Mara hands down!

is she single?

what happens if you jump off a cliff and log before you hit the ground

spam tab and use a knock down ability soon as u get a target even if you cant see it

Wintergrasp may of been basic but for a unguilded player to get 1000’s of other players to follow him not many people can do that

http://youtu.be/e4s5HVt26pI?hd=1

you can see out of 100’s of people Daish is the only 1 typeing

Daish only has Videos of him Commanding in Wintergrasp

for Besetment.9187
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kFpB_0ObfE

spawn camping 120 players is fun