Guild Wars 2

If we think about what ruined wvw we come up with many issues a lot discussed in many forums around the web.
First of all the communication with players and the change inside anet management. Something has changed, someone has changed or we can’t explain how the same ppl who created a good wvw feature could create what we have now. Comunication is missing or when it happens is totally wrong. I’ll never forget: “haters gonna hate”. NEVER

New maps: starting from Eotm getting to Desert BL…. they suck. Much has been said about this topic. Players need new maps not to be bored of playing in the same scenario but at the same time the tactical aspect of the maps should not be put aside and moreover the PVE must, must, be out of a PVP enviorement. Players need maps where the fights are encouraged and structures are positioned in strategic points usefull for map domination. New map is needed.

Wvw Should not be considered PVE but PVP.
Transfers: What makes a game exciting is the challenge between 2 or plus players, groups, factions and going on… When you erase the factions you are stripping the game of fun. No challenge, no Server identity, no teamplay. Gw2, as gameset, has chosen Server identity but they are not feeding it but destroying patch by patch. I won’t expect much from this side because it’s a good way they have to make money but it’s killing wvw, they have to balance this aspect.

Reward: This is what started the fall. The loot, the wxp and chests attached. Let’s say something first: THE PVP PLAYERS PLAY FOR CHALLENGE, WHERE HE HAS FUN FROM, NOT FOR REWARD ONLY. Higher is the challenge higher should be the reward nonetheless. Loot and wxp, instead, promote a way of rewarding disinterested from challenge and server pride. You can have your useless pixel’s inside your bank, called reward, without having the real fun. This brought into wvw and gw2 in general a lot of FARMERS not players. I remember how initially gw2 was sold: it’s different from wow, no grinding, equal gear for pvp, no ladders and so on. Now it’s going away from what it was at beginning losing it’s identity, trying to be something else. What’s worse is that you can have your reward without caring the challenge your server and your community has vs others servers and community.Aat the end of the day players count chests, bags, badges, wxp levels they earned while maybe the server is losing hard vs others. No teamplay or serverplay is encouraged this way. This should be stopped.

Before all is lost we should get to the origins:
1) Remove ladders: everyone should have the same gear ,not have upperhand for gear but for play, having the possibility to chose the stat, of course.
2) Remove the chests from wxp.
3) Remove loot from killing players and npcs.
4) Implement wvw daily reward:

How to get it: simply logging into gw2 acount.
How should it work: it’s a daily chest that contains what the hell you want but the reward is based on the daily server performance. The daily server performance can be calculated in the matchup of the 3 servers without counting the tier. This means that tier1 can have same rewards of tier239. The daily server performance can be calculated considering, daily kills, structures conquests, structures defenses, structures upgrades, kills and suggest what you have in mind. Higher is the score, compared to two other servers higher will be the reward.

What will this mean: everyone can get the reward. No matter if you are scouting or following a zerg you will have the same reward of others. If you stay only flipping structures with the zerg and your reward is poor this means you have to do something different, maybe you need to cooperate to increase server performance and have a better reward.
It can attract other players in a good way. The player not playing wvw can have his reward but if he sees the reward is poor, again, maybe he should start doing something to increase server performance.

I’m just throwing it. Good luck.

Bringing back old bls Won’t chance anything. You need New good stuff with a good launch and a bit of marketing. They can’t do anything of that.

erKo.9586:

Hello. There is nothing to think about – major of the wvw players doesn’t like the new maps – end of story.

On my server Far Shiverpeaks(EU) the community has now started threads there we gather character-selection-screenshots + we add the text we want the old maps back in paint and upload on imgur, now we will save all these screenshots and send to anet.

If you people want change.. start doing something similar? do it in your guild, with your friends OR if u can reach out to your server community like us it would be awesome.

Dont just sit there – fight for getting the old maps back!

Example:

http://imgur.com/hYwCKnd

Not True. People didin’t sit, people moved to others games.

The new map is good, it let me know Mount & Blade and now i stopped playing Gw2.

vespers.1759:

So to summarize WvW post expansion:

Rangers are obstructed by gentle slopes, blades of grass, and often the air itself, but they can shoot through tower walls to compensate.

Ahah the glass barrier!

We are just the stress test for china market, i’m curious to know how they (china) will welcome mew maps.

Bla bla bla, i’have red so many times stuff like that. They are nomore reliable. “We are doing this, that, we will…, we know..”and so on. At the end of the day we have Desert(ed) Borderlands with all the flaws player have already discussed. i’ll bring my money to games where they create real pvp massive games. What we have her is empty pve maps, not realistic enviorment nor tactic focused maps.

We can introduce nuclear missiles into the game without touching the trebs. Seriously talking, map must be redisigned. No other way.

It’s the lack of players that encourages borderlands domination, not the autoupgrade.

Dislike. Painful to play, too much pve, stealth, no tactics involved between structures, ladders? ,lava?, ……

I agree with you in almost what you posted. But web already know it. Eotm 2.0 empty era has begun.
The worst part is that they don’t get it, so don’t expect changes.

Read the achievement description well, you need to build the ruin not to take them. Achievement achieved.

The purpose of the game is to “fight” not the playing “hide and seek”. when ppl complain about the sixe of the map you have not to count only the way to structurse but all the passages and way players can take. It’s intricate and in that way bigger.

Now i get why it’s “Desert” Borderland. Anet already knew it would go this way, they are genius.

I was one of those who played in home bl only. Because noone was doing it, they were too busy jumping k-train to defend stuff. Scouting, taking camps, escorting dolyaks, roaming and having fun in bl while being useful. I don’t play home bl anymore,i switched to ebg because the New bl sucks no matter what Anet says. I’m ok with auto upgrade, structures need still to be defended but the kitten they created, maybe is good to see but to play, It’s purely nonsense. Come to ebg with us, old stile map, with others like me.

I have questions for you.

• Where is the ground in the new map? it’s all ladder, glassy catwalk, undereverything passage and lava…lava really?

• Where’s is the desert? LAVA doesn’t mean desert.

• Why did you throw structures randomly? In old map structures were positioned in strategic points, on a Rock(hills) or water surrounding it(bay). They were in high places where could control an area of plain terrain, controlling a structures you had the highere ground. In the new map, instead, there’s no strategic mind, you put some snow here, some LAVA there, some green.

• How can you call this new map? you just took the scheme of old map, 6 camps 4 tower and 3 keeps forming an exagon, and just making it bigger changing some stuff. How can players enjoy playing, creating, experimenting new tactics. Even sieges seems useless.

EOTM 2.0

Ye you fell into Anet trap. You want to play wvw in a populated server but you are locked in a low populated one. Now you have to pay to play. Paying the transfer to onother server. Enjoy

This is utopia. I agree with 95% of your suggestions but we will never see it. Game will die Before they will be implemented

You can’t join any Team in wvw, it’s just onother map chat with a darker red. it’s useless unless you make it cross-borderlands. 2 hit in one shot: a better chat comunication and a uselees tool revived.

Why isn’t there a cross-borderland map chat?
For scouting for example. when roaming in my homebl and spotting a zerg or a keep is under attack, If not using ts, i’m forced to swap borderlands to see where thee zerg is and call for help. Don’t tell me “go to ts”. I need a instrument ingame not a outside feature to make the game complete.

Perhaps exists and i don’t know?

If we keep going this way players will stop asking anything to anet, each time they handle something they screw it up.

Being on topic. Remove AC, is better for everyone, it’s a bad behaviour using ac especially with this rate of fire or at least lock the location at some places.

While you there remove golems and let’s play GW2 not siege wars. Do you Want more time for defending structure? Increase Doors and Walls health.

Pu stealth mesmers, +40% conditions food, dire stats, elementalists, ruined alla the fun. Roaming is a way to challenge everyone but you can’t challenge everyone because some builds, traits, classes are above the skill of players. Let’s be serious, gw2 is not for skill,it’s for advantage towards your enemy.

The real problem is the idea that wvw is pve. Anet doesn’t Get that. It’s not

No. We are players we are playing it. If something goes into wrong direction the rules come to help. If the rules fail or are missing must be corrected or implemented. It depends on who makes the rules, as always. A good rule makes a good player, educating it or avoiding some behaviour.

Wvw is competitive. A little bit of “hate” is part of competition. What ppl mistakes is that, at the end of the day, it’s always a game.

When… Anet itself tries to kill it.

It’s not the conditions that ruin roaming or power builds. It’s the stealth togheter with condis. Mesmers are the worst because they can aplly conditions with illusions without doing much.

Wow, that ’s a good idea. Oh wait it already exists, better, they already exist. Crafting areas in pve capitals. Just remove it from wvw, remove mobs as well while you are there. Ty

Water stick . 15 Char.

Let’s summarize :" We know there are issues in wvw and we are working on it . Something will be done but much more will be done in the expansion. Buy it to see the fixes".

that’s true. the ppt mode forces servers to play tactical. Tactical means: taking structures as fast as possible, as many as possible avoiding the fight with other zergs. There’s no point fighting other players in large scale fights. They should implement some sort of chocke points where armies must go through so they must fight each other to get to other part. Someone suggest the “Orb” mechanic to be restored. Anyway in this way is getting boring and only farm-train will survive.

This event is kitten, kitten with kitten with side of kitten. I don’t even explain why, all the arguments have been already listened above. Don’t let this kitten continue more, stop it now.

True.

you can’t comparate adrenaline with turret. you should comparate the tool belt with adrenaline, saying, maybe, “a engineer can use all toll belt skills without charging it why warriors can’t do that?” or “a necro can save his life in death shroud why warrior can’t?”.
anyway the answer has nothing to do in any case with comparison with other classes, they changed the starting adrenaline mechanic for a matter of “balance”.

ppl afk because are XXXhole. if you are scared of meeting a certain class play a counter to that class or stop joining the queue, you’r ruining the game of other ppl.
anyway turret engies must be nerfed.

Hi there. I’d like to know how it is possible to be hit by deathly claws for 4-7k average. This every 3/4 of a second. Is this a bug? Exploit? Wrong Math?

This is a build i see running many necros theese days, a cheese build with a ranged shot hitting like a train.

Dunno what’s happening. It has been a while i freeze when i join homeBL in Sfr. No zerg, no fights or small/roaming figths and the computer freeze. You can say, it’s your pc or internet provider. i answer no, because when i switch BL everything is gone, the game is smoothie. Something wrong here.

I totally agree, we could even remove the 2 enemies server and make a wve with castles, towers and keeps in an endeless and mindless way.

Aeolus.3615:

Dancing Face.4695:

This will finally split zerg, will incentive small scale fights or this will turn the usual wvw maps into a eotm: if you can’t manage to defend a structure you stop caring about’em and start farming keep and tower bosses.

Anyway this is a good “shake” to wvw, things will change for sure.

I hope the first 2 option will be adopted, wvw could be fun in the end.

i believe what would happen is this would turn blob even more productive, with no sword, its only a drop plenty of catas near walls (or non visible points when u can cata non keep zones and still damage walls )and no one know keep/tower is under atack, take stuff faster, more ppt, more flipfest, more AB redundancy, more easyer wxp.

How can a Blolb be more productive? Blolb is usually made by pugs not using TS. Blob can pop up orange swords and be spotted. Blob are much more noiser and visually easier to detect.

Other side are small group, no orange swords at all and nomore white. Hard to catch with eyes and can ninja non scouted structures. A 25 blolb split into 5 groups can , hipotetically, take 5 unscouted and undefended structure while the blob must take those 1 by 1 ecountering the defence of each one becausse of the size of their own number.

This change will give more chances to small grp to take towers of blobs. Now if defender want to keep theese structures must leave the zerg and start spreading the map. 2 zerg split.

Anyway the rewarding system should be changed as well.

This will finally split zerg, will incentive small scale fights or this will turn the usual wvw maps into a eotm: if you can’t manage to defend a structure you stop caring about’em and start farming keep and tower bosses.

Anyway this is a good “shake” to wvw, things will change for sure.

I hope the first 2 option will be adopted, wvw could be fun in the end.

Berk.8561:

It’s not useless. It let’s low-population servers know when an enemy zerg has arrived on the map and what kind of attacks to prepare for.

That’s why it should be removed.

here the trinity has nothing to do. we already have heavy and medium classes staying in front of the line and lighter, squishy class and build staying in outskirts of battles or lines or in a charge. Body blocking can give a good cut at zergs cause the bigger the grp is the worst it fair in close battle and finally small grp can actually fight larger in bottleneck. It would really be more realistic and tactical.

But you know..the game must be fun, ppl have to train go through everything getting loot or get bored, no space for tactics or real fights.

did you buy some account grown up by chineese “gameworkers”?

go acobatic sword/ dagger

remove the pets, it’s a dead weight pulling down the whole class.

• can’t dps properly because of movement.
• ranger dps lower because of pet.
• it’s hard to burst damage always because you have to time your and your pet attack (never).
• we have new stat acquisition with the ascended gear while pet stat remain the same. let’s imagine a duel vs a full ascended ranger vs a full ascendend opponent. the opponent can sit and laugh at pet damage with it’s purple gear and if condition based the pet will just die with emphatic bond traited.

remove the pet.

not again pls. (the message lenght must be at least 15). not again pls.

… and it come from pve so ppl can gather to red commande for red wurm, yellow commander…. and so on.

and that’s how new meta works. celestial builds beat old builds.
are you celestial, aren’t you?

You proved nothing jhon snow!

It’s cold out there, don’t forget to take your armor. Some say the violet armor is warmer.