Guild Wars 2

If your group is good, you can finish a fractal in an hour (slightly more if you’re doing the Jade Maw one too).

I really hate to bring this up again, but you can actually make money off of just playing the TP. Things required are some capital (more = better ROI) and DIY research on various “markets” aka the item being sold on the TP itself.

lol OP are you high?

There is no fix to the chance of getting different tiers of dyes afaik. Since unknown dyes allow you to get ANY tier of dyes (ranging from common to rare – yep, pretty much any dye exist in the game), do some quick probability and you will realize how tiny the chance of getting a rare dye is, not to mention PROFITABLE ones.

If you want to profit from dye, I suggest you quit this game. RNG has never been on most player’s side in this game, as you have already experienced.

Edit: grammar

Smooth Penguin.5294:

>OP

You say you don’t want “easy mode”, yet in the same breath, you ask that they adjust it to make it easier for you to get. It sounds like you feel entitled to a Legendary. Am I wrong?

The prices on the market have gone up with the increased demand for T6 items. As I mentioned in another post, as more people max levels and acquire wealth (be it through farming or just playing the game normally), they now have the resources to purchase T6 mats from the TP. With Anet banning the farming bots, thus reducing the overall availability of mats to purchase, people are now charging/asking for higher prices. And you know what? People are PAYING these prices. So as long as people are WILLING to dish out the money, the market will reflect it game wide. I’m sorry if this affects you in a negative way, but that’s how markets work.

Now back to your “need” to get a Legendary (I say “need” because it sounds like you really want one). Pretty much everyone is able to get one, as playing the game normally will provide you the mats you need. Casual players will just take longer to get, but you CAN get them. As Anet stated, Legendary weapons are a journey, or perhaps saying over a long period of time. Just because you can’t get yours within a few months of the game doesn’t mean you can’t a year from now. Look at Bartho, he got his playing normally. Sure he may play a lot more than you, but all he did was play. If the mats don’t drop, you can choose to purchase them from the TP using money you got “from playing the game”. Note – Legendaries are not dependent on the TP, so your statement is incorrect there.

The only thing that one could complain about would be Precursors and Clovers. Anet already adjusted the drop rate of Precursors (while minor, I’ll take what I can get) from enemies or from the Forge. Clovers are the only thing that require pure luck, but I wouldn’t have it any other way. Heck, I’m stuck at 61 after running through a stack of Shards and Ectos. But I’m not gonna complain to Anet to turn on easy mode, I’m gonna keep on trying until I get them.

Now to help you out, I’m gonna give you some quick tips on how you can help yourself on your Legendary journey.

Tip #1) Mine Mithril nodes and Elder Woods. Whenever you see one, go after it.

Tip #2) Craft your own Rares (Weapons and/or Armors)
Tip #2.1) Farm high level areas for T5 mats, or for coin to purchase them
Tip #2.2) Certain T5 mats for Rare crafting are cheap on the TP

Tip #3) Salvage crafted Rares for Ecto
Tip #3.1) Sell crafted Rares for coin, to then purchase Ectos on the TP

Tip #4) Use Rare weapons in the Forge to go for a Precursor

You forgot another step before Tip #4: Pray to whatever that is holy to you that RNG is in your favor.

Tarvok.4206:

I’d be really curious as to the exact process by which gems come into existence. My guess would be that they come into existence when people buy them with real money, then cease to exist when someone cashes them in to the gems store. But I get the impression this really isn’t how it works.

Your guess is as good as mine, and I think it’s safe to assume that that is how it works.

Instead of having to keep track of gems being exchanged into/out of BLTC, they could have an algorithm that checks if x amount of gems are bought, then that will up the exchange rate by y amount, and vice versa.

I’m surprised that no one mentioned that gems are of unlimited supply: whenever you throw your money (gold,dollar/euro) into the exchange, new gems are created out of thin air for you.

If OP was actually to pull this out, it will probably affect other markets too, because those rares are tied to ecto. However, unless you have ~$100k to burn, I doubt you could ever pull this (and, as others have already said, not to mention Anet’s interference).

PapercutCarnage.1736:

skotie.2614:

@ Duplicated and that would be a problem because? What then you might not have a large stack of unopened chests which you need to buy keys for off the in game store sitting in your bank?

There is a simple answer. Money. Anet makes a ton of money off of black lion chests by requiring you to either purchase the keys or do some personal storyline to acquire them. It’s the whole reason they are in the game in the first place. Keys are probably their biggest money maker other than people buying gems to convert to gold. Not a horrible idea, but not a realistic one either. I would be all for an easier, cheaper method of opening those kitten things.

@skotie: this guy just nailed it (was playing the game and didn’t bother to check the forum). It is Anet’s primary way of making money, probably more so than skins/transmut stones/etc.
The one reason it might not be as successful as they think (the “buy keys and get your shinies” scheme) is because of the horrible RNG associated with these chests which, couple with the price of key being at 125 gems, makes it a rather unappealing item, especially when one considers the fact that it involves real currency.

skotie.2614:

Question why in god’s name can’t thief’s have a skill to picklocks? If not a useable skill that can be used to also open chests for others at least a skill that allows you to open your own locked boxed. What is the good lore reason that a “Thief” by profession decided that they would learn poisons, backstabbing, camouflage/stealth abilities or tricks as you might call them, common bandit type weapon skills…. O but opening locked boxes that contain treasure? Nah why would they want to do that?

If by that you mean a skill to picklock the BLC, then what’s the point of having keys for sale in the first place? Leveling is such a joke in this game that it takes almost zero effort (with relatively small amount of money, you can level from 1 to 80 without leaving the town, not even once). Everyone would just make their own thieves and start burning through all of those couple hundred thousands BLCs sitting in the TP.

Sounds more to me like smart kitten players trying to con Anet.

The 5 keys for 450 gems is, in itself, a deal already, since that means each key is worth 90 gems now according to this package.

25 keys for 1560 gems (the exact number is 1562.5 btw) is another deal that is calculated off of the base value of the key (125 gems each). Exact same deal as the one above (discount based on the base value of the item).

Smart marketing? Yeah. Players are smarter? lol I fail to see how. As others has mentioned above, no companies in their right mind would do a discount on an already discounted item. I will never run into such a deal, because just about everyone would have buy them all out as soon as they noticed it.

TL;DR When was the last time you go shopping?

Dyno.9467:

No chance, cause that’s actually something that’s useful to players.

So fine transmutation stones are useless?

Basically, you’re saying that Anet is putting “junk” up for Black Friday sales.

Yes, cross server.

Skewki.4597:

has anyone figured out why we should “hold on to these items throughout the weekend” ??

I’d say that maybe Anet might have another event specifically for those who have missed the reward from yesterday’s event, based on all the complaints about how laggy it was + disconnection issues + different timezone.

Navzar.2938:

The precursors are one of the materials. So imo, they should be about as difficult to acquire as the gifts, which also require a lot of input. I don’t think is should be a ridiculous amount like 300g of course, but they shouldn’t be worthless either. Something like 50g worth, or a different method to acquire them that takes a good amount of time and/or effort just like the other components.

I wouldn’t mind even if it costs like 100g to get a legendary, but 300-400g? That’s way out of reach of probably 99% of playerbase.

Well, this doesn’t hold true anymore after yesterday’s event lol.

dimgl.4786:

At this point, it’s very hard to believe they can change anything about the game without upsetting a large portion of the playerbase.

At this point, you really can’t do anything about it.

The game is already in place. If they were to follow OP’s comments, it’s like back to square one for them. I’ll just accept it as a broken game as it is, except that I don’t see myself spending any additional cash for in-game items at all.

Maximus.8376:

Sounds like you have the items in an invisible bag.

No. And seriously, whose idea is it to make items having both properties?

Here’s the proof of what he said:

paelen.3821:

Exploring for the first time is always the best experience. Being in a zerg group made this happen. Being 50 and scaled up to 80, I found I still didn’t have the stats to be really sufficient. Had fun for the time running the events until the group dissipated.

Similar feeling with AC, being 50 using 35-40 gear and scaled down to 35 in comparison to a 80 scaled down to 35. They tip-toed through the tulips.

Except you don’t really tip-toeing through the tulips in the Cove even if you’re a level 80 with full toughness/vitality gears :P

Braxxis.7062:

But it had the hilarious “watch zerg rush at Veteran Karka…..watch whole zerg suddenly need to be ressed” moments.

lol, that barrelrolling thing is pretty easy to dodge.

Wait til you see the whole zerg rushes at Champion Karka and it jumps toward the whole group. Expect to see everyone without toughness/vitality gears to drop down right away.

Northlander.4619:

Tijo.9857:

well I disagree. These jumping puzzles do nothing for me, and the time the devs spend doing them could have been spent doing something else.

jumping puzzles, as you said, are not necessary. So it only bothers me to the extent that resources were diverted to develop something that I don’t like. now we can argue about how many people do them or don’t of course… and nobody can win this argument.

In the meantime, I’d like to know when the Wvw (one of the unique features of this game) will get some attention… incentivisation, gear progression, new maps, new objectvies etc…

See this is the difference between you and me. I don’t care about WvW but I consider stuff like jumping puzzles, pipe organs and stuff like that as integral part of the PvE experience. They appeal to my explorer playstyle.

I’d be more happy if they moved resources from PvP and WvW to to developing PvE content like this which, as far as I have experienced, is also unique to this game. Without stuff like jumping puzzles I’d have lost the interest a long time ago. They literally keep me playing and I regularly jump through the ones I have already done just for the fun of it.

Also kudos to whoever created Fractals. I haven’t been through all of them yet but so far they are tons of more fun than regular dungeons (except the swamp but that’s just me).

That being said. Different teams and all that… maybe WvW would be more interesting if it had more elements like the ones appearing in Fractals and jumping puzzles.

Someone already said this in another swamp complaining post, but let me reiterate it for you: get a mesmer with portal, reset the wisps until they all spawn on the top part of the map, have your mesmer open a portal at the turn in location and run north toward you guys. Once he’s there grab wisps and run toward him while he opens the entrance portal. Everyone jumps in, gg.

Took my team fifteen minutes just to get the coordination in sync plus resetting those wisps so that they spawn really close to one another.

Ok, here’s my hopefully objective view on the Cove.

You can solo, but it’s really REALLY hard unless you can CC and/or stack toughness+vitality. My guardian could solo the normal (non-vet) mobs there with my mostly Berserker set, although I need to be very proactive at timing my dodge and skills which, in a sense, is fun in a challenging way. On the other hand, if you go in a party, it will be one heck of a fun ride. However, even in a party, you CAN and WILL get wiped if you attract more than three vets (which I find it really stupid… it’s a world map, not a dungeon, yet bronze vets here seem more like silver vets in dungeons. And did I mention that they have two lives?).

One bad design though: those young karka’s water gun thing, where they shoot water bullets at you in successive shots, it’s nigh impossible to simply dodge them all. The range is huge, and those bullets hit like trucks. I had to dodge twice just to avoid about 80% of the damage, and by the time they started shooting them again, my endurance bar had yet to fill back up enough for me to do the double dodge again.

If you have played up to level 80 and are not used to roll around a lot or utilize all of your skills, better start learning the how-to now. If you expect GW2 to be yet another “right click hit-hit-hit” laidback sort of game, I suggest you go find another game.

ErikxRod.4832:

ok, so here’s the deal:
even if they DOUBLED the chance of getting a precursor, which i don’t assume honestly, the prices of rares have DOUBLED as well as exotics, the price of the precursors would be of course the same!
so in other words: if they didn’t increase the chance for more than 100%-150% percent you would barley see any price changes at all, the chance would be still minimal and the money you put in much.

:-)

lol, 150% of 0.000000001% becomes 0.0000000015%

Depending on the actual percentage (which Anet will never tell us), the increase in chance may or may not make any impact on the price at all.

lol, after I’ve seen what happened during Halloween, I basically waited one day after Lost Shore is in and then probed the forum for people’s response to those chests.

Needless to say, it is still the same old scheme, and my money is saved. Thank you Anet.

Black Wolf.7348:

no, your a joke.

Just because you and your team dont understand what to do doesnt mean anything. Its a new dungeon and new content and no one have done it before. its obvious that you have to figure out what to do.

for the march you have such problems with the point is to put the far away wasps into the three trees. However, if you dont coordinate they will reset as all have the same timer from when the first is picked up. the roads my block but you can easily jump over it. Let me point out that its possible to do from any distance. you just need to know where to jump over the blocked paths and avoid traps. the 2 is dont carry wasps need to help the other 3.

the fractal dungeon have no waypoint because the only way to resurrect is to have someone heal you on your team or the whole team dies. When the whole team dies you go back to checkpoint just like in any personal story.

How about you tell me why the timer resets halfway through then? As in, my team was carrying it to tree stump. We have like 16 seconds left on the timer, I almost made it to the tree stump when all of a sudden the timer is gone, wisps are gone, and we have to redo the whole thing again.

My group gave up after four tries with the same kitten happened over and over again, not to mention a guy’s game client crashed and he couldn’t get back into our instance, after we have completed two fractals.

Can someone tell me why it resets halfway through while everyone is carrying the wisps?

Seriously, we almost had it three f-ing times in a roll, then poof, the wisp vanished from our hands, and I was like are you f-ing kidding me.

Is it a bug or intended? Also, how am I suppose to know when will it “reset” since there’s no timer for it?

Brutal Arts.6307:

RNG Chests are and always will be kitten. Supporting them will only allow NCSoft to push more crap every month.

Thank you. At least now I know there are people out there who see through this whole scheme, and realize that the RNG idea does not originated from Anet.

Faith in humanity restored, somewhat.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

I think that it won’t make a difference. Most players are already wearing MF in dungeons and you haven’t noticed.

If you’re concerned about what the players in your PUG are wearing, ask them to link their gear. It’s unlikely that people will bother to transmute MF gear and make it identical to their real gear.

In some harder dungeons, there is a huge difference between running MF gears and running specific, non-glass cannon, gears.

Mira.4906:

I’m not sure what the cap is but I believe in another thread a few people confirmed to have over 12 slots. Currently the number of slots is believed to be higher than 17 with 5 from buying the game and 12 you can purchase

Uh, what’s the point of having more than eight characters anyway? One for each class.

Besides for the mules, obviously.

@Vayra: aka the basic principle of economics.

To those who just realize this, (Mind blown)

Monad.7210:

Nothing wrong with getting downed on mesmer. I actually do it on purpose sometimes so i can dish out even more damage.

This. The fact that you can stack confusion on people while you can invis away with a clone + summon a backstab clone to help kill the target makes a world of difference (well, not really in the wvw environment, but in pve it’s really invaluable).

Only lvl 15, and I’ve never been downed so much on a character. This isn’t an easy class like Ranger. I gotta dodge and weapon swap a lot…and often dodge into more mobs and have to run!

But I gotta say…I love it! The challenge is fun and I’ve come to love my Phantasmal Rogue…no matter how many times I’m downed, I rarely die.

I don’t recall having to swap weapons around a lot at all unless I want to kill the target faster (GS stacking clones, then swap to staff to apply more conditions).
I can use all of my GS skills and rarely have to dodge lol, while being able to keep three clones up and shatter them to end the fight.

So, you are complaining about someone making money from the bubble, but you either missed the opportunity or didn’t have the capital to do it?

As for your strawberry argument, it doesn’t take long for people to realize whether new recipes added will use them as ingredients or not, hence the quick drop right after the patch.

I really wish Anet would implement an automated system that would just suspend people who make threads with the word precursor in its title. It’s been repost countless time, mostly from b-hurt people who didn’t get their shinies.

There’s a reason the thing is called legendary you know. As flawed as the RNG system is, if the precursor is widely available to everyone, then what’s the point of having legendary items to set yourself apart from the crowd?

I’m also willing to bet that even if you get your precursor, some of you will either end up selling it for money or just come back here and complain “the requirement for insert legendary components here is too much! QQ”

lackofcheese.5617:

The Halloween items are theoretically vulnerable to monopolization since they rely on Candy Corn to craft, and it’s a limited resource, but given that there’s over 2 million units of candy corn currently on the TP, I think the concern is far from being a serious one at all.

It’ll be a serious concern in six to nine months from now, especially if Anet decides not to bring them back when the next Halloween comes around.

Although I wouldn’t worry about it too much, seeing how lodestones are currently priced at lol.

Then, what would you call some people like me who figured out how to beat it within half hour, and manage to farm thousands of ToT bags? Talented?

Well, I initially thought they would have a special promotion for keys during Halloween. Slash the price down by a quarter, and they’re guaranteed a whole lot more sales even with the crappy skins drop rate.

Oh, I forgot to mention that I was in wvw, although I highly doubt that there was someone running past me.

And yeah, I stuck in combat mode for about five seconds more after my speed buff ran out.

I casted SoS on myself today, and noticed that whenever I stepped on it, i’m always in the combat mode (which is really suck considering i’m just casting it for faster movement speed in order to get from point a to b faster).

Is there a change log somewhere that states that applying ground-targeting spell onto yourself will put you in a combat mode?

Jrunyon.3012:

Hope that the price of candies rises back up to the absurd price I invested in them..
I really jumped the gun and Im pretty sure Im going to pay for it but ah well, that investing right?

That’s speculating lol, you jumped in when the bubble was about to burst, and didn’t manage to clear your inventory fast enough when it did bursted I assume.

Zero real money.

A couple in-game gold for all the Halloween minipets (about 9g), 36g for the greatsaw skin, and bought a key today and got the 1h sword chainsaw lol.

Man, why are you such a whiny little kid (or are you one?).

If you don’t want to save up money for it, then don’t, and stop whining about the low rate. Anet already acknowledged that it was partly their fault (as they released those mad king chests), plus they have never force you to buy any of those chests.

Or were you one of those people who dropped hundreds of dollars into keys and got nothing back?

@nmoral: there’s this concept call seed for RNG. I doubt Anet has it, but if they do, all the unlucky people will remain that way for a long, long time.

I agree. I personally felt it was too easy for me lol. Fifteen minutes for my first time atop the tower, another half hour of optimizing my route, and hours of consistently beating the clocktower.

@Thebacklash: haters gonna hate, no matter what lol.

People kept throwing ugly words at my norn, and i said okay, you all go ahead then, I’m trailing after you guys.

No one in my overflow made it to the third chest. So much for all the QQs and threats lol.

Norn Guardian. Never got any speed boosts.

Did enough to get 200 ToT bags, so you can go figure.

Yeah right, a high barrier of entry is in itself the first measure against future flippers. Plus, there is a crazy undercutting going on in that bracket, and there’s no way to know for sure whether those dusks that disappeared from the listing is either due to someone re-listing them or is it legitimately sold to someone.

I highly doubt anyone would tell you publicly here, unless they also want to shoot themselves in their feet.

I wouldn’t have bought the game AT ALL if only I saw the NCsoft logo earlier. It’s right on par with Nexon. I thought Anet was still a single entity.

I thought I would spend $20 dollars earlier, just to support the game. After I spent my in-game gold for five keys and got literally nothing of value out of it, I just said to myself I’m done with this.

One interesting note that I think you should take into account Anet (no, I didn’t make this up, nor did I believed my eyes either): The third successive chest that I opened, the only item I’ve got was a single use bank access, that 35 gem thing. Yep, the ONLY item from a 90 gem key (bought a pack of five), was a single use bank access. No tonics/boosters like the usual. Whoever just kittened with the RNG when Halloween items were being added into BLC’s loot table for live servers, you better go check up on him.

And oh, please don’t tell us that the guy forgot to add in zero(es) after the number again, like what happened during the karma exploit. The release was delayed for so long, and you still managed to royally screw up players with the RNG shenanigan, while leaving us in the dark about the actual probability for items in the chest. I take it that you people don’t value your brand that took you… what, almost ten years to build upon in GW1 as something valuable?

If you people have been taking advice from NCsoft, I suggest you should change your mind. NCsoft’s Korean grindy model doesn’t work well most of the time here in America. Sure, there are some people who are willing to shell out their cash, but they are a tiny fraction of the playerbase. Keep on catering them if you want, but I doubt they could really help that much in the long run with all the costs incurred on your side.

Yeah, going to need to back up this .dat file. There’s no way I’m going to redownload all the patches in the future if I ever have to.

lol the server is overload i guess, my download stuck at 73% with zero download speed.

Oh boy, all the pump and dump scheme lol.

One suggestion if you’re fishing for the precursor: use yellow, not exotic. With yellow, the cost is lower. Sure, you have lower chance of getting the precursor, but they are cheaper, which means you can try more often for the same amount of gold. Plus, there is a chance that your rare might upgrade into an exotic, which will greatly help lower down your overall costs.

Lastly, we don’t really know what’s the exact % number for precursors just yet. Some people have thrown in tens of thousands of weapons hoping for a precursor, and came up with nothing. So, better not to dump all your money into MF just yet.

@Gold guy above me: yeah, a really long term investment that is dependent on Anet’s next move, with zero dividend as well.

Most likely it’s a placeholder for future contents.