Guild Wars 2

I came to the forum to post a thread about “how can you allow such kitten” without even knowing what it is, only thing I knew for sure was that its a rev.
I just lost a game where 3 ppl were trying, not just to kill, BUT TO FREAKING CAPTURE our close and a single rev was just standing there pushing us away. I have never been knocked off so many times in one single match. How can such cancer can be allowed?

Or lets see that from another view, cause I’ve stayed off pvp for a season… Is there any way around that? I mean, is it legit play? How do you counter it? The knockbacks were endless.

And if that is 100% legit, gg Anet, please don’t fix anything, great season, such fun, wow

I really can’t understand the purpose of this thread. Of course the people that actually made these legendaries will want nothing to change, that’s why they made them in the first place! There is, imho, only one-way solution. Add a slide-bar for the noise and everyone will be happy.

Personally, I have many times wished death by drowning on unicorn feces to Dreamer’s users, so this will help me and my psychiatrist a lot

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I just did the ‘leather farm’ a couple of times (my first times), and I thought it was fun enough. Lots of leather packets (can’t remember the name) and plenty of Champion Bags, as well. Not to mention the other drops.

If players don’t like the ‘leather’ part of the farm, maybe they will go for the Champion Bags; it takes less than 10 minutes or so to do the circuit.

These champion bags only drop leather though…

It is far better to craft Twilight. You will need an insane amount of mats but still it will be cheaper than buying it from the TP. Have in mind that this will probably take you some time to achieve (speaking of months).

As for your other question, high level fractals have a lot of loot and you can acquire ascended armor and weapons cheaper

Solid advice BlackBeard, thank you! I ’ll play some unranked to test these!

Thank you for your answers guys, I really appreciate it. Seems I lost touch with the class. So, to sum it up for auramancer, judging by the answers

1) we are not tanks, we must stand back and spam auras/heals for the dps classes. If, by any chance, we are alone at point, we stand no chance of holding it unless the opponent is also auramancer.
2) if you are in a pug, you are 90% dead at mid fight cause no one gives a skritt for you

man, I love my warrior right now <3

Hi fellow wielders of the elements
I main ele for two years now (my first toon) and I have no problems in PVE. Last year I started doing PVP (metabattle auramancer standard build) and managed diamond rank two times. After that I started playing warrior having a blast in PVP (gold 3 currently). Sadly, whenever I have to swap (cause team lacks support) to my ele, I am getting stomped. Perhaps I forgot how to play, I find it very difficult to survive. I am even losing 1 vs 1 when I am on point from revs/thieves/power war/guardians and their mothers. I use earth focus 5 very fast cause my health bar seems to vaporize in seconds (l2dodge issue I guess, dunno). I almost always have protection from auras, how the hell am I receiving so much damage?

I know my role is to provide support to group fights, but whenever I get focused, oh man, sometimes I don’t even manage to swap to earth for the invul.
Is there a combo I am missing? I understand I have too many questions so let me break them for better reference

1) I am on point and a “insert random class” comes. I am supposed to be one of the best bunkers in the game, correct? yet certain classes (power) destroy me, what do I miss for self sustain? Surely I am making many things wrong cause I have witnessed immortal eles on gold fighting against duos ON POINT (not using LOS) and surviving long enough.
2) I am getting focused on mid fight (or whatever fight). They stun me and the damage is so burst-y I don’t even have time to use focus earth 5 (git gud). Are there certain boons I miss while going on mid fight? Should I enter fight overloading earth?
3) Are there any combos/skills I am missing? I use earth 4 for the reflection against DH and afterwards OL earth for the same reason. I use fire 3 for the evade and blast the field with water 3 to provide might (and chill opponents).

many questions I know, trying to git gud again (or I was never really good at it, probably carried by the pro-nerfed class). Thanks in advance!

Abelisk.4527:

And your skills don’t only work on the water field. Enemy blast finishers as well as ally finishers work too, which can be extremely powerful by restoring a team’s health up to 100% rather quickly.

wait, what??

Hello, I couldn’t login for several hours, either to the game or the forum (to send a ticket). Likewise, I couldn’t even load the address http://en.support.guildwars2.com/.

The message I was receiving from the client was the classic one (“firewall” etc). Anyone else had the same issue today?

Hello, d/f main here but recently playing condi war cheese (currently gold 3).
If I ever see an opponent ele with warhorn, I know its an instant win. You will get interrupted so many times and you won’t be able to survive a single burst. Focus 5 really is a life savior and, as others have said, you can also use it for a safe stomp/res. I don’t even know why there is a debate, you just cannot survive with warhorn, experienced players will instantly target you and you will die in nanoseconds. There is no “group support” if you cannot stay alive, it is just so simple. Now if you are a pro (or just over your league) player, you can make warhorn work, hell you can even make staff work. But if you skill is equal with that of your opponents, you will have a hard time.
We don’t have the freaking sustain for anything else. We are at a bad spot, forced to use the same build for so many months.

now, as for rotations, I don’t really think there are any. You must adapt to the situation. I usually start fights (be ALWAYS with your group, that’s the primal rule) with fire 3 then water 3 for the group might. You can also start with OL air but I use it at the beginning for group speed. I try to stay a little back from the group just in range for the shouts. If we have a necro on team, they will go for him. Try to keep a look on his health bar to keep him alive, provide protection through shouts etc. If you get focused, your allies are shocking aura (air 3) and earth attunement. If you have a shout ready use it, it will give you the much needed protection, use focus 5 only if you are sure you are going down, then you can safely cast your heal. If healing is on cd, DISENGAGE. Just leave the heat of the battle, you will probably make 1-2 of them chase you down, great news for your team. Learn when to use Lightning flash and where to point it. I still suck at it, panicking to use it when invul to get away…

just my two cents, I am sure there are people way more experienced than me to guide you better! and sorry for bad english

Gator.5729:

Well you have something going on at hop#5, but you definitely have problems starting at hop#8. The packet loss is more of a problem than the ping. I would take that ping graph to your ISP and see what they can do. There is nothing on the Anet side that can be done.

hope 5 is always like that, I am guessing that it cannot be pinged (protected by ISP or something). I know that Anet can’t do anything for the specific printscreen. Look at one right now. This is the most common issue, lagspikes (so much rage in PVP :P) hope 11 and after that.

Gator.5729:

Excelvior.8520:

Gator.5729:

Excelvior.8520:

Same problem here. PVP is totally unplayable. Please address this issue.

There is most likely nothing for them to address. You need to figure out where the problem is by running pingplotter. You will see as many others do that the problem is with Telia or Level 3. Anet doesn’t have anything to do with them.

Sorry, I didn’t provide any details. I’ve ran pingplotter and it shows the problem at ncsoft server (12-14 hops). Till hop 12 I have about 60-100 ms, after that it reaches as high as 900.

Then if you have a screenshot of pingplotter showing the problem at Anet then submit it in a support ticket. Just out of curiosity post it here so we can see.

Sadly I didn’t take a screenshot. I took one just now, but I think the problem right now is one hop before anet servers.

Gator.5729:

Excelvior.8520:

Same problem here. PVP is totally unplayable. Please address this issue.

There is most likely nothing for them to address. You need to figure out where the problem is by running pingplotter. You will see as many others do that the problem is with Telia or Level 3. Anet doesn’t have anything to do with them.

Sorry, I didn’t provide any details. I’ve ran pingplotter and it shows the problem at ncsoft server (12-14 hops). Till hop 12 I have about 60-100 ms, after that it reaches as high as 900.

Same problem here. PVP is totally unplayable. Please address this issue.

Man, I had exactly the same experience! Silver 2, down to bronze 3, being paired with total potatoes, afk-ers trolls and the like. I was raging like a spoiled brat, those days are over and I enjoy tranquility at gold 1.

Sadly you will need the gift of Battle to complete a gift for Bifrost, which means you will have to spend 6-10 hours (with buffs) on WvW. Try to think positive, you may actually like it.

FrownyClown.8402:

Hey man its our trait in tempest called Elemental Bling. It allows us to change amulets mid combat so most eles will have menders on and switch to marauders every 9seconds or so. I agree its completely broken

probably best trait name EVAH. Thanks for the lolz!

well… I main a healbot for over a year now but currently in love with my cheese condi-war. I met a lot eles with that build (or something like that) with my war, always a pleasure to meet them and kill them literally in a few seconds by signet of might and a simple headbutt. But I play in silver so maybe there is not enough skill there.
on the other hand, auramancers I can’t even touch.

Link.1049:

The necromancer comment is comedy gold.

so true!!! I laughed like an idiot!
but man, I also had a brain-fart yesterday after 30+ in a row games I play foefire, we are winning by a margin and the enemy makes an attempt to our lord, I rush in to help and say in team chat “lord safe” cause I couldn’t see anybody. ofc I was in the wrong lord area, I had completely lost navigation (thought I captured close but I had far). We won cause we were way ahead but still… and I have 1600+ games, not a vet, but not a PVE scrub either. It happens

How can you even consider warhorn for bunker ele? Every freaking skill has 0.5+ sec casting time, I am sick and tired getting constantly interrupted! I really can’t imagine playing without Obsidian Flesh, the opponents are always focus me (if we don’t have a necro in the team) and I get more CC that I can handle, OF is a life savior.
But maybe it’s a l2p issue, I ll give it one more shot in the future

question : won’t you get utterly annihilated by condi builds?

I used to QQ so much about dragoncancers that I have salt supply for a lifetime. As a macebow war I just couldn’t win even against bad players, mediocre players were just wiping the floor with me. But after practice and using Signet of Might just for them, I just destroy them. With them, I mean mediocre players and below. Good dragoncancers will still beat me (have to git gud) but at least it will take them some more time than before. Everything is about practice.
Now if only I could find a way to not getting absolutely annihilated by mesmers… and I mean mediocre mesmers. I believe someone like Helseth could kill me with a clone or something…

Oh man I feel you. I play a cheese macebow condi war and after having a ridiculous streak in unranked (27 wins in 30 matches) I was pitted against monsters of nature. There were times I literally stood still with open mouth, brain would shut down to prevent chronic damage from the kitten s I was getting. I was dying to any possible class, the players were just levels above me, I believe the only thing I could kill was a svanir, thank god they stayed the same. Fortunately after some matches and untold things I suffered, which are probably illegal in many countries, the game decided to take it down a notch and bring me back to normal levels.

It was fun though for a while, knowing what a really good player can do.

Same here, have lags all day now…

Hello, having major lag for 3 days now. Anyone can decipher where is the problem from the screenshot? (pingplotter image)

I am guessing from his build that OP speaks about PVP
personally I find warhorn extremely slow for PVP and I cannot part with focus earth 5 which is the ultimate savior/safestomp.

Oh man, the possibilities!!!
Quaggan jumps out of shield and blocks an arrow while yelling DENIED! COOOO!
I am making Eureka for my PVP bloodthirsty huge mean charr, this will be a perfect addition. Said no one, ever. :P
Still, awesome skin!

Thank you so much for your answer!
I really don’t lose to thieves, I mean like, ever. But I haven’t encountered anything like that. Seriously I was receiving hits out of nowhere O_o.
Acro staff thieves die easily because I practiced my headbutt to hit after their evade frames are over.
I think SoM helps a lot against scrappers but I don’t know at high level playing. I mean, any discipline will wipe the floor with me at that level.

Hello fellow warriors!
I am PVPing with condi macebow warrior (metabattle cheese build) for some months now, actually doing pretty good lately (at least better than my ele after nerfs). I have some 1 vs 1 questions and comments, if some experienced players could answer and also comment I would be in debt.

vs thief : I win almost all fights (most of them easily) BUT on a game last week I fought a thief that… erm… would not break stealth when attack? I really cannot describe it, I lost half of my health when capping close and I just could not see him! He appeared just to finish me off at 20% or something. A game later someone wrote on map chat that he encountered a “ghost thief” using the same description. I mean.. what? how?

vs DH : I slotted SoM just to be able to win against dragoncancers. I’ve read many posts that you just need to know how to play against them, well without SoM I fail miserably, with it I win 60-40 against good opponents. Really good DH still own me, I have to git gud but still don’t know the proper mechanics(?). I pop Endure Pain or shield block or dodge to avoid traps but those freaking unending blocks make me wanna ragequit. And they always fill up their health 2-3 times…

vs Mesmer (shatter): I just quit. Honestly if the mesmer is any good and I see him on point, I just leave. I suck so bad they destroy me in seconds. Is my build so bad against them or we have a chance at winning? And how to git gud against them, there are times I can’t even recognize the true mesmer with all those clones in the heat of battle. SoM helps here too (I stay alive 2 seconds more because I surprise them lol)

vs Druid : If he/she/Apache helicopter is good, I am dead. I don’t know how to avoid the kiting. If I am lucky to block their stealth arrow, the fight is mine. any tips? I ignore the pet completely, shouldn’t I?

vs necro/rev/ele/engie : I mostly win. Though I played unranked against a necro that someone on my team said he is EU unranked number 1 (is there even a rank lol?) and he erased me from existence (never seen so many skills activated on the same time :P) but he is the minority. Specially revs get rekt from condi, eles keep cleanse but they do almost no damage. Engies are tougher, battle may go for a minute or so.

vs warriors : well, mirror match is skill based. I think I mostly lose against good power warriors because resistance. any tips? should I just leave or wait for +1?

so, that’s it, sorry for bad English. Any tips/comments?

I feel you
finished Eternity recently after making both precursors through legendary journey. Finding the leather was the single hardest thing to do. I ended up farming gold and buying from the TP. It’s even worse than the mystic coins, at least for those you have a monthly allocation…

Josh Davis.6015:

Excelvior.8520:

I played one Skyhammer game yesterday. Guys, the camera when you cap close/far is really, really awful. I have to zoom in to understand what’s happening.

We’re looking into some changes for the side points to address this.

Thank you, that will be great!

I played one Skyhammer game yesterday. Guys, the camera when you cap close/far is really, really awful. I have to zoom in to understand what’s happening. You are going to put that map on ranked without fixing it? And leave out Capricorn which is much loved by the community? I mean… sometimes decisions are pretty obvious, its like the one-week Halloween overtime and the removal of DR for labyrinth in PVE. Everybody liked it.

UBcktieDL.5318:

Berserker Stance applies resistance which can be removed, most likely by a necro or thief, leaving you vulnerable to condi.

That makes sense. Thank you very much!

aaaaand I tried to post this in the warrior’s forum but failed miserably…

Hi guys, I play macebow warrior for about 6 months now and getting better with more practice, but I ’ve noticed something weird after last patch. It looks like my “panic buttons” which are Endure Pain and Berserker Stance, are not always working (?).

Example : I am ready to die, panic mode activated, I press both (I always do that when panicking lol) Endure Pain and Berserker Stance and yet I witness my health bar going down until I die. This has not happened once, I noticed at least 5 times it happened, something I had never experience in the last months. I checked if I had lag issues, everything seemed to be fine. So the question is, has it happened for you? Or, to phrase it better, is it a way to lose health even with those skills active?

thank you and sorry for bad English.

I just logged in from work to say THANK YOU. You literally saved the event! It is good to know you still listen to your customers.

Przemyslaw.5891:

Is there still something left to nerf?

Obsidian Flesh now gives protection instead of invulnerability

link does not work…

I ’ll give it a shot

Malediktus.3740:

Did anyone notice changes in the ecto salvage rate?
Just salvaged 52 rares and got 35 ectos. Thats 0.67 per salvage

Might be bad luck at that sample size. Will try again tomorrow

exactly the same!!!
done 3 multiloots, got same results (~0.68-0.7) with silver fed salvage tool. Stealth nerf?

kyrie.8530:

i know this has been posted many times before, but the more times its posted, the bigger the chance for anet to listen.

please add an option for using the MF for the same recipe multiple times. for excample having 4 stacks of major sigils, then we should have the option to let the MF do its magic 250 times, or untill the inventory is full.
or having 250 cores + the other kitten, then let it be used 125 times without having to click 2000+ times.

I just logged in to say this. Please. It’s unbearable.

I ‘ll just pop in to say THANK YOU to Chukree for an excellent post and discussion skills. Sadly, my english are poor to achieve the same quality. I 100% agree with everything you said. I main an ele so my tears are extra salty, but I switched to warrior this season. The skills needed to play an average Dragoncancer are below anything else, even condi warrior, which seems to me so easy to play compared to ele (ofc personal opinion, others may not share it). I mean, kitten , some of them don’t even move! Cancertrap, cancertrap, unblockable-cancershot, cancerblock, cancerblock, continuous frontal cancerblock and somehow getting heals all the way! OK I shouldn’t mention heals as a condi warrior, but allow me some salt barrage.
But the biggest cancer of all is the class stacking! I mean OK, one dragoncancer is enough but its beatable, specially when they lack skill, but two???? You drop one and SHAZAM you have the other one pop cancerbubble! So he gets the EZ rez and here we go again… 4 ppl trying to get a freaking point from just 2 players (yeah I know, l2p).
But the one advice I love is “l2dodge”. You dragoncancers understand, I hope, that this stands only for the already placed traps on point, correct? So I have to blow my 2 dodges right from the start and then you just reapply traps with ZERO casting time on melee, without any chance of avoidance (except blocks IF they are already in place).

But when the steam through my ears stops emerging and I cool down, I remember playing ele with cele amulet and pre-nerfed diamond skin… So it’s just a cycle… the only constant thing is the incompetence of the balance team.

Dawdler.8521:

Excelvior.8520:

I get my clovers through PVP tracks but I happen to love PVP. Most players here play strictly PVE, they hate PVP and they don’t have a solid method of obtaining clovers. This is simply not fair for them, something must change.

Uh… Thats how the entire game work. In this case you even got it it good since there are multiple methods to get clovers.

For example, I want Ad Infinitum. But I dont want to do fractals. I only want to WvW. What do I do?!?! Something must change, this isnt fair.

Or I could just do fractals but I dooooont waaaaaannnnnaaaaaaa.

No need to be sarcastic here, ofc if you want a fractal specific item you will have to do fractals. And if you want to create a legendary you will now have to do WvW for the gift of battle after last patch, even thought it screwed all the PVE people (which tbh have the most chances to create a legendary anyway). That has nothing to do with the RNG fact. Just create a recipe that you know it will give you clovers, hell, it actually may be more expensive but at least it will work!

my 2 cents, after making Rodgort’s flame and Nevermore and only needing about 30 clovers to finish Twilight.

The clovers are, by far, the worst item needed for a legendary. Introducing RNG to an already expensive procedure its one of the cheesiest anti-inflation methods ANET ever used. Just make a recipe already so someone who is interested can calculated the total amount of gold needed. I’ve noticed some posts like “you can get coins doing fractal dailys”, “there is a mystic forge daily 4-5 times a month”, “ley-line event gives you one each day”… guys, seriously??? You don’t understand what the problem is here, beyond the ridiculously time-gated coin gathering? It is RNG! You take all these coins with so much effort just to throw them to the MF and pray you will get a good result!
And most of you seem to have absolutely no problem with it…

I get my clovers through PVP tracks but I happen to love PVP. Most players here play strictly PVE, they hate PVP and they don’t have a solid method of obtaining clovers. This is simply not fair for them, something must change.

Sorry for bad english, not my mother language.

JOIN OUR GLORIOUS CLASS!

Our warrior guild “Headbutt press 2 kkthxbye” would like to welcome you to our ranks!
Do your daily chores bore you and you need time relaxing? Say no more! Just grab a greatsword and unleash death upon the poor mobs by pressing 2.

But wait, there’s more!

If you own HoT you can specialize to the class only a warrior can master, the Berserker!
Now you can press your elite skill and like a ram from hell destroy your enemies by smashing your skull against theirs! And no one has a thicker skull than a Berserker! Don’t forget to press 2 right after that! And they thought that class was easy to play, HAH!

Loop.8106:

Right now, a legendary weapon in AC deals about 32% more dps than an ascended. In TA its about 10%, which is still more than enough to make a HUGE difference. Especially in solos and duos.

wait, what????
I thought legendaries dealt equal dmg as ascended. Is this a scaling thing?

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Will.9785:

Is this a joke post? I played this today for the daily and we all thought it was the worst thing we’d ever seen in the game. A bunch of us just stood there and waited for the timer to count down because it was so unplayable and bad.

I guarantee that as much as you disliked it, at least 20% of the community likes it. (I dislike Keg Brawl, but I like Survivor and Sprint.)

20%???
you mean one out of five players actually likes this???
I think your statistics are way off point. I played 2 games, first one I was 2 vs 2 and we were trying to figure out how this works, second one we were (after a few minutes) 3 vs 3. The game was so horrible that the six of us ended up dancing at mid court. We were laughing with the mechanics, most of the time couldn’t understand we had the ball, a guy ran to defend and he had the ball all the time… sometimes there were 2, even 3, balls at the same time!

Laughable activity. I guess it is on beta though… the potential is great and with a few (major) tweaks it could actually become something you really want to play.
But right now, no, just no.

Amazing build!!!! pity you didn’t link it correctly

Edit : it’s linked on youtube post though, so everything OK, thanks for sharing

Ray Patrick.7843:

I’ve freed everyone in this thread up to this post.

Thanks!

Thank you Ray!

just for the record, no one received pip for winning

same at temple, I logged out and now cannot join another pvp game, it says “Match is in progress”