Guild Wars 2

RedSpectrum.1975:

Nice video OP, I would commend you on how awesome and skilled you are, but we all know no one is ever good in this sub-forum, the players you fight just suck

Except they don’t? tbh most of the people in this thread saying they “suck” would probably get destroyed by these players, considering the lack of understanding of the game you’re all displaying here.

Like I think you missed the entire point of the thread though, it’s been stated multiple times, he’s not trying to brag about skill or anything, just trying to show how broken full dire perplex thief is. It’s right there in the OP.

Thought I’d weigh in here. I’ve dueled mango before when he was using this build so I hope I can provide some insight here.

I believe the point being made here is the fact that a build with no weapons can actually be successful against competent players (and make no mistake, these are competent players, I recognize quite a few of them from my own duels) is absurd when you consider how much emphasis is put on weapon choice in this game (as shown by a long list of traits that shorten cooldowns, increase damage and stats when wielding certain weapons). If a no-weapon build can succeed against decent players without even the benefit of the insanely strong shadow arts trait line, it’s pretty obvious that the same build with the added benefits of the P/D weaponset (easy access to stealth giving access to the massive benefits of the Shadow Arts traitline, quick torment application with a port away, and a powerful out of stealth condi burst) is easily capable of a lot more.

I’m not sure what kind of person could look at this and think that nothing is wrong with it, there’s really no reason having no weapons should be effective on any level close to that showed in the video.

Andrew Clear.1750:

How is it that Mag isn’t getting infracted for their posts in our recruitment?

we r the illuminatis

Jyeoi.6027:

Mag is a ghost town SEA time. Like 5 ppl, whatever SEA guilds that go are gonna be alone. SBI and DB are so bored with Mag during that time zone, we spend most our time hammering each other in the open.

Dont be fooled by the illusion that your stuff is still green during that tz Mag, its just that you are a boring server to fight during SEA so we dont even bother going there after a while.

More of this nonsense and im starting another thread.

Someone seems a little scared of their server actually having to fight something on mag other than a door during SEA. I get that you use SEA time to distract yourself from how badly your server gets wiped during NA but wow

Zaxel.3520:

Hello my toxic shoulders seem to be much smaller then they used to be, please help I feel like a wimp with this size.

Same problem here, to back this up I’m attaching a photo of two screenshots to this post, one with the pauldron’s original size and another with the current size.

you guys (FA and TC) get really upset about being farmed don’t you

the only thing worse than people attempting to get everyone riled up is the people trying to make snarky comebacks to them and embarrassing themselves in the process

open question to everyone: how does it feel when the best thing you have to do during the holidays is be a tryhard in the forums?

the best part of all of this is are the people making posts disagreeing with this and criticizing the decision, and then acting like they’re some brave revolutionary fighting “the man” saying things like “you can infract me for my opinion i dont care!!!!”

wow one whole sentence using thieves as an example that must be the entire point of the thread

Rednik.3809:

Folie.7980:

can you people even read or think or
k lemme spell this out for you

this isnt just about thieves, i swear mention thieves once and you guys sperg all over the place

warriors can run in, kill a dolyak/solo a camp and there’s absolutely nothing most people can do it about it without speccing specifically to counter it. it’s not even a high-risk high-reward thing because the warrior also has high armor and health

Any remotely competent theif can slice dolyak and vanish before you can even understand what happened. But since you cannot kill 1 guy standing still and smacking the poor doly for 10+ sec (this is minimum for PVT setup) with 6 your friends… yes, I see why it’s a huge problem for you.

okay you really cant read, gotcha

Kitsune.4280:

Folie.7980:

the actual point of the thread

A thief and his 5 friends unable to catch a single warrior? Well, looks like a great l2p issue as for me, at least unless those 5 were a necro with 4 minions… Not sure if this is a cause or an effect of such a lame pastime as zerging down solo targets w/ your group.
Cheers.

can you people even read or think or
k lemme spell this out for you

this isnt just about thieves, i swear mention thieves once and you guys sperg all over the place

warriors can run in, kill a dolyak/solo a camp and there’s absolutely nothing most people can do it about it without speccing specifically to counter it. it’s not even a high-risk high-reward thing because the warrior also has high armor and health

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

Please read my post.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Warrior-Usain-Bolt/first#post3404268

L2P issue. Thank you.

Folie.7980:

you said mobility when it’s really land speed you’re talking about? lololol point invalidated with pointless semantics i win forum!!!!!

Folie.7980:

also thief is just one class so um

so um yeah

Rednik.3809:

Folie.7980:

whoop there we go again missing the actual point of the thread

Actual point of the thread is “Maaaaam, I cannot gank this guy! Maaaam, nerf him plz-plz-plz!”.

whoop there we go again
what is reading

Rednik.3809:

rhapsody.3615:

Remember, they want to avoid the “power creep” at all costs! We can’t have those ele’s catching those warriors.

I also remember how those poor, weak eles was able to engage 1vs3 and actually had pretty real chances to win, AND was able to disengage at any moment. That ridiculous OPness of ele as roamer was a main reason for RTL nerf.
Now plz, show me GS+1H_Sw+Wh warrior killing 3 ppl at once, I really want to see that.

whoop there we go again missing the actual point of the thread

it’d be hilarious to see all the BG whining if that part about a lower reward for winning servers was implemented. they’d probably pay for guilds to leave their server

Renny.6571:

Folie.7980:

okay you’re right thief can also do this. and your point as to whether or not warrior should be able to do this is…….?

Nice attempt tho

My point was that Thieves are as mobile as Warriors, a few idiots tried to refute my statement and I provided them with evidence. That’s it. Next time, look for context before you reply, thx.

oh okay so you’re just being unproductive to the actual discussion. gotcha

Renny.6571:

Folie.7980:

is the comparison to thieves the only thing you guys are gonna comment on liek that somehow invalidates the point of “warriors shouldn’t be able to do this” or like what

also thief is just one class so um

OP cried Warrior and brought up Thief. Nice attempt tho.

okay you’re right thief can also do this. and your point as to whether or not warrior should be able to do this is…….?

Nice attempt tho

Renny.6571:

Grebcol.5984:

@renny
This isnt true,i have also a warrior and i can outrun with such a trolling build every thief!

Warhawk.7095:

^ I suppose completely ignoring two posts and saying “quit complaining” is what passes for a replay nowadays?

warriorjrd.8695:

People should educate themselves before they type. Warriors have been the fastest class since release, maintaining perma swiftness with only warhorn/elite signet. Throw in sword and gs as well as bulls charge. I implore you to try and catch a warrior that doesn’t want to be caught.

Traited Steal 1.5k range, Shadow Step 1.2k range, Infiltrator’s Signet 900 range, Infiltrator’s Strike 600 range, Infiltrator’s Arrow 900 range; spammable, Heartseeker 450 range; spammable.

But pls, tell uneducated me how Thieves aren’t as mobile as Warriors. Before you type wall of text bs about how no one runs these, remember that GS/Sw/Wh is only made to fly across the map too.

is the comparison to thieves the only thing you guys are gonna comment on liek that somehow invalidates the point of “warriors shouldn’t be able to do this” or like what

also thief is just one class so um

ITT: a thief complained about a thing? lololol argument invalidated i win forum!!!!
you said mobility when it’s really land speed you’re talking about? lololol point invalidated with pointless semantics i win forum!!!!!

so now that we’ve gotten THAT out of the way

“yeah but the warrior actually accomplishes nothing so you ‘win’!!!!” well aside from how people have already pointed out they can pull this after soloing camps and killing dolyak’s, this is a videogame, not real life. I don’t know about you but when I’m trying to kill digital polygons on a computer screen the moral high road argument that is “he ran away he did accomplished nothing” doesn’t make me feel any better how the fact that warriors can do this has wasted my time and taken away a potential kill. The only way I’ve taken these “Usain Bolt” warriors down as they try to run from me on my guardian is by using judge’s intervention and signet of wrath (and the scepter 3 skill sometimes), and that’s 2 utility slots i’d rather not waste when im trying to satisfy my nerdrage by killing the warrior who just ganked the dolyak i was trying to run

SonOfKrypton.4357:

my gild very gud wnt to show u how gud i am by geting a gild v gild organsed so we cn see who is th best at going invis then presng 1 cause tht is gud show of skll and mke my epen biga. thx, pm me if intrstd.

ps. onli ppl who r srs about gtting farmd need apply xDD!!11!1!!11!

-2/10

robocafaz.9017:

Don’t forget your Christmas spirit!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18koyj_magxmas2013_videogames

mildly disappointed you didn’t use the space jam mashup version of that song

The poor skritt! After the reset happened I took pity on him and blocked as many shots as I could from him and cast stability skills whenever I was able to. Got lots of very angry PMs from racist skritt-haters.

2/10 did not laugh
wood not read again

joe.9815:

Folie.7980:

joe.9815:

Folie.7980:

joe.9815:

Folie.7980:

Given that this is your second post about this I am 90% sure you’re trolling

I am not trolling, I am completely serious. What needs to happen is what happened to the dolak thing during wintersday making it easier for people. This event has 2 weeks. I mean it would be fine if it was permanent but it isn’t. It shouldn’t be this hard for a 2 week event.

Look at the forums. It’s been covered a million times and advice has been offered, casual players have been able to do it with PUGs. No offence but I honestly think a lot of the complaints are player error. It’s honestly not that hard.

We didnt wipe a single time we took her down very quick and we didn’t make it. We did everything right.

Make sure you picked up the cannon and brought it to the ship.
It’s either glitchy like the other achievements, or you clearly did not take her down fast enough. This is one of the easier achievements out of the others, and just because you’re having troubles does not mean everyone else is too.

The problem is she takes too long to take down. You need to be near perfect to get it in 15 mins

I’m just going to stop bothering because it’s clear you’re just going to ignore the fact the many others, including casual players have been able to do it with no problems and that MAYBE the problem is you/your party

joe.9815:

Folie.7980:

joe.9815:

Folie.7980:

Given that this is your second post about this I am 90% sure you’re trolling

I am not trolling, I am completely serious. What needs to happen is what happened to the dolak thing during wintersday making it easier for people. This event has 2 weeks. I mean it would be fine if it was permanent but it isn’t. It shouldn’t be this hard for a 2 week event.

Look at the forums. It’s been covered a million times and advice has been offered, casual players have been able to do it with PUGs. No offence but I honestly think a lot of the complaints are player error. It’s honestly not that hard.

We didnt wipe a single time we took her down very quick and we didn’t make it. We did everything right.

Make sure you picked up the cannon and brought it to the ship.
It’s either glitchy like the other achievements, or you clearly did not take her down fast enough. This is one of the easier achievements out of the others, and just because you’re having troubles does not mean everyone else is too.

Belier.9864:

Folie.7980:

Me thinking I could dodge the beams is pretty much what almost made my team wipe. The small one can be jumped over if you jump off any of the boxes, but be careful of the golems’ pulls

So if I’m correct in assessing what you’re saying, a good piece of advice is that you can jump over the beams so long as you jump on a box first, and not have to go all the way to the top of the boxes and wait till it goes under you?

You can only jump over the small beam. The two large ones, you can’t really do anything about as far as I know. I could be wrong about something given my only thought during the battle was “OH GOD NO BEAMS WHY” and I wasn’t paying attention to anything else other than where they were lol.

joe.9815:

Folie.7980:

Given that this is your second post about this I am 90% sure you’re trolling

I am not trolling, I am completely serious. What needs to happen is what happened to the dolak thing during wintersday making it easier for people. This event has 2 weeks. I mean it would be fine if it was permanent but it isn’t. It shouldn’t be this hard for a 2 week event.

Look at the forums. It’s been covered a million times and advice has been offered, casual players have been able to do it with PUGs. No offence but I honestly think a lot of the complaints are player error. It’s honestly not that hard.

Belier.9864:

marnick.4305:

Just focus on moving. DPS is an afterthought. If you stay alive long enough, eventually you win.

Avoiding the lasers isn’t difficult if you put attention to it. Keep dodge up for when you need it.

Also, stack a bit of vitality so you can avoid a single laser hit. Zerkers are not good for this dungeon.

Question, given dodge: I’ve tried this before and I’ve had little luck with it, but can the beams actually be dodged through?

Additionally, in terms of avoiding the lazers, can the small ones actually be jumped over, or is there a way to actually take -less- damage to survive through it?

Me thinking I could dodge the beams is pretty much what almost made my team wipe. The small one can be jumped over if you jump off any of the boxes, but be careful of the golems’ pulls

If you’re a thief, Signet of Shadows is a MUST for both boss fights.
Also helpful for thieves to avoid cannon fire: Expeditious Dodger (swiftness on dodge, req 5 acrobatics
Feline Grace (dodges don’t take as much endurance, req 15 acrobatics)
Thrill of the Crime (helpful in general but also supplies swiftness to your team on steal, req 10 trickery)
Bountiful Theft (vigor for your whole team on steal, good to activate during cannons, especially with Thrill of the Crime, req 20 trickery)
Anyways, along with other defensive buffs, that’s what helped my thief/team survive the boss fights.

Wow, I thought this was a recent thing too, don’t remember it happening the first time I did the jp. At least it doesn’t make you redo the stations if you’ve completed them.

Given that this is your second post about this I am 90% sure you’re trolling

Lord Erik.6903:

Folie.7980:

Lord Erik.6903:

You sir know now how I feel about the Mad Kings Clock Tower.

The developer literally intended for only around 2% of players to beat that lol

Whispers and he knows it irritates me…

Developer’s thoughts while making the clock tower: “Oh yessssss, delicous, I can just see the complaining on the forums already…”
While it was easy for me bc I happen to be good at jumping for some reason, I will admit that thing was EVIL

Lord Erik.6903:

You sir know now how I feel about the Mad Kings Clock Tower.

The developer literally intended for only around 2% of players to beat that lol

Thedenofsin.7340:

No, this completely sucks.

I don’t ever intend on coming back to this instance unless it gets NERFED.
TO THE GROUND.

way too hard for it to be considered ‘fun’

Not really

Jademalo.3724:

Folie.7980:

Jademalo.3724:

Folie.7980:

No, bc I’m guessing the whole point is that the achievement is only meant for people who have the skill to do it sometime in the next two weeks. It’s just a few achievements with no other rewards other than achievement points, so the world isn’t going to crumble if you don’t get them.

This is the issue – it’s not personal skill that is the problem here, it’s group skill. We wiped on the first boss earlier, and I spent a good 5 minutes solo happily dodging the third laser phase. Ultimately I was only tickling the golems, so I suicided for another attempt.
With Personal Space, the commonly accepted pug tactic is to all stack on top of Mei and eat the AoEs. If you’re trying to do the achievement, it’s to the detriment of your group. This is fine if you can organise a decent group of people to get it done, but with two weeks on the clock it’s a substantially harder feat especially since a run takes upwards of two hours.

What’s the problem with it being a group skill? This is an MMO; a social game. Get together your guildies with the intention of getting the achievement. It’s not impossibly difficult, since others have managed it, and again, if you can’t get the achievement, are you really missing that much?

I’ve completed every event achievement up to this point, so yes. I am.

I can only play between 10pm and 10am, so I am completely limited to Pugs. If I could get a guild group going to grind it for a good few hours I would, but I cannot.

In 3 weeks or so I will be able to play 4pm-2am which would be fine, but that’s too late.

This is a problem that will never be changed with ALL MMOs that have time-exclusive events. You’ll find that MMOs can be exclusive to people who have real life commitments. Because of real life, I’ve missed out on 80% of Flame and Frost and ALL of Secret of Southsun, and, as much as I would’ve loved to get those achievements to catch up with the rest of the higher ranks in my guild, I’ve realized that there’s nothing I can do about it.

Timer-based events and their content on MMOs run on the assumption that you have the time to take part in them. If you can’t accept this, maybe you should pursue a more realistic goal. You can’t achieve everything.

Jademalo.3724:

Folie.7980:

No, bc I’m guessing the whole point is that the achievement is only meant for people who have the skill to do it sometime in the next two weeks. It’s just a few achievements with no other rewards other than achievement points, so the world isn’t going to crumble if you don’t get them.

This is the issue – it’s not personal skill that is the problem here, it’s group skill. We wiped on the first boss earlier, and I spent a good 5 minutes solo happily dodging the third laser phase. Ultimately I was only tickling the golems, so I suicided for another attempt.
With Personal Space, the commonly accepted pug tactic is to all stack on top of Mei and eat the AoEs. If you’re trying to do the achievement, it’s to the detriment of your group. This is fine if you can organise a decent group of people to get it done, but with two weeks on the clock it’s a substantially harder feat especially since a run takes upwards of two hours.

What’s the problem with it being a group skill? This is an MMO; a social game. Get together your guildies with the intention of getting the achievement. It’s not impossibly difficult, since others have managed it, and again, if you can’t get the achievement, are you really missing that much?

No, bc I’m guessing the whole point is that the achievement is only meant for people who have the skill to do it sometime in the next two weeks. It’s just a few achievements with no other rewards other than achievement points, so the world isn’t going to crumble if you don’t get them.

I’m a casual player and with a party of my guild members, we were able to complete this first try with a couple of wipes in about 1 hour-1.5 hours
Please stop spreading the rumor that this is impossible, because that is FAR from the truth. Just because it takes actual skill and you cant just faceroll it like a lot of the other dungeons does NOT mean it’s impossible

leman.7682:

Folie.7980:

Not sure if this helps, but I believe if you walk into one of the cannon’s circles after it’s been fired and get damaged, it counts as getting hit.

My friend got hit couple of times by the cannonade and still received the achievement.

Hmm. It than case, it seems like it’s probably still a little glitchy.

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

Folie.7980:

@EdgarMTanaka

By your logic, Caudecus’s Manor should be possible for people with levels ranging from 1-15 because it’s accessible in an area where people level 1-15 can go. It’s full of level 80 enemies, so common logic should show that it’s meant for characters at level 80. You’re not missing out on a crucial part of the game because you can’t access it. The only item that people will get out of it that you won’t if you miss it is the mini for getting 12 achievements. Don’t worry, when others get to level 80 there’ll be a lot of other chances for them to take part in something like this.

You are not auto leveled to level 80 when entering CM and it does not go away in a few weeks and it something you can look forward to do when you get level 40-45, but with AR you have to hurryhurryhurrypowerlevelingpowerlevelinghurryhurry or you will miss that story and that experience. thank you very much.
But yea my “logic” fails, it’s no where said that this dungeon is for players <80 it actually says Reccomended level 80, nice finger from A-net to new-players.

Crucial part!? How about I want to experience the story in the dungeon before it ends? Everything is not only about achievement’s, and I am not talking about myself I talk about the new to this game players that want’s to take part in this “one time event” and the new players invited by their GW2 playing friends who will face this brick wall and not all but many will surely get a bad taste of GW2 like this.

THE CONTENT. IS NOT. CRUCIAL. OR LARGE.
It’s literally like, maybe, 1 hour of gameplay you’re missing, and new people wouldn’t find it fun because it’s challenging and better suited towards players who have done dungeons before. Where has Anet stated that they want to include every single player in this content? Right, nowhere. By nature, all MMOs have a LOT of content exclusive to certain types of players. If people cannot handle this common fact, then they are better off not playing MMOs because then they will start complaining about things being exclusive to people who can put in more time, like legendary weapons. If there is nothing that only experienced players can achieve, then what’s the point of experienced players continuing to play this game? After this event is done, I can promise that most people will barely miss the content because once you get out of your short-sighted view, you can realize that this is not very much content at all. It’s SUPPOSED to be hard and just because levels are upscaled doesn’t mean it’s meant for new, low-level players (see also: introduction of southsun cove)

This is NOT a brick wall because there is literally HUNDREDS of hours of other content past this that is accessible at ALL TIMES and if you run into this thinking that because you couldn’t take part in a limited timer event you’re going to be consistently locked out of other content in the game then you’re probably better off not playing this game.

Fungalfoot.7213:

The Manor doesn’t come with an expiration date. It’s place you stumble upon early and then revisit. It’s going to be really hard for ArenaNet to get new blood into the game when they insist on making everything so limited.

You just completely ignored the second part of my post. This is a TIMER BASED EVENT with LIMITED REWARDS tied specifically to it. If you miss it, there will be PLENTY OF OTHERS like this to be a part of. This is NOT a major part of the game, this is maybe about 2% of temporary content of the game.

Jademalo.3724:

Folie.7980:

These type of achievements aren’t meant for the “average person” to complete. If they were, then there’d be no point.

The issue isn’t wholly that. I adore prohibitively difficult achievements, the issue is the time limit. I am well within my ability to achieve all of these, but since I can only play between 10PM and 10AM GMT, It’s nigh on impossible for me to actually get a run going let alone a good enough run for the achievements.

Well then that’s too bad. The whole idea is that with the time alotted, skilled players can get achievements that others can’t. Timer-based events on MMOs rely on the fact that you can make yourself available for them. If you can’t, that’s not the developpers’ problem, it’s yours. If you’re really that upset that you missed something in a videogame because of real life commitments, maybe MMOs aren’t for you.

@EdgarMTanaka

By your logic, Caudecus’s Manor should be possible for people with levels ranging from 1-15 because it’s accessible in an area where people level 1-15 can go. It’s full of level 80 enemies, so common logic should show that it’s meant for characters at level 80. You’re not missing out on a crucial part of the game because you can’t access it. The only item that people will get out of it that you won’t if you miss it is the mini for getting 12 achievements. Don’t worry, when others get to level 80 there’ll be a lot of other chances for them to take part in something like this.

These type of achievements aren’t meant for the “average person” to complete. If they were, then there’d be no point.

Not sure if this helps, but I believe if you walk into one of the cannon’s circles after it’s been fired and get damaged, it counts as getting hit.

Me and my guild had more trouble with CoF path 3, and that was before it got nerfed and you didn’t have to wait for the entire party to wipe before you could go back to a waypoint. The achievements like defeating the boss in under 15 mins, not getting hit by the cannons, etc… are not meant to be something that everyone can do. If you need to get the 12 achievements, do all the caches (easy), run the dungeon and get the three easy achievements from that (the ones from beating the bosses and saluting the cannon guy, which you can do to his corpse and it will count), and running the dungeon once should take care of most of the Kryta Aetherblades achievement. I believe that adds up to 12.

Advice for the dungeon: Don’t do PUGs. Get some people from your guild to do it with you. Read up on it so everyone is clear on what to do for the bosses. Balance your team (we had to have a mesmer switch to his warrior bc we had 2 guardians then three squishies, which proved to be difficult in the final boss when more than one person died). At the cannon part, stay still in safe areas as much as possible instead of running around, and only use dodge when you absolutely need to, not every time you see a red circle on you. Skills and buffs that make you faster also help if you have room for them. If you have a thief, get them to bring shadow refuge to throw down on people reviving others so they dont get interrupted for awhile.

Also, get everyone in your party on vent or mumble or something

Honestly, this has been discussed a million times. I can understand your problem with badges as a reward for the EB jp (although it’s possible to do the whole thing with the invisibility from the fountains), but please stop it with the endless complaining about camping. It is perfectly fair that the jp’s are camped and always will be camped because they give free siege as a reward. Why would a server just stand by and let you get something for free that can be used against them?

Camo.7498:

As it looks we will move up. I feel sorry for those playing Maguuma because it seems like everytime you turn around one has exploited into your tower or keep.

Please stop making comments like these, making accusations with no proof and condemning an entire server based on the actions of a small group. All these do is make people get angry and eventually get threads locked.

I love desperate everyone is to prove Maguuma is awful and how flustered they’re getting over it. It’s a game guys, try taking a breather once every hour and maybe you won’t get so frustrated.