Guild Wars 2

Rank PVP or even unrank should let us vote to leave without losing point when someone afk or DC after 1-2 min since the match started .
The one who AFK or DC will be punished : losing rank point , can’t join queue in X minutes and you can’t leave if no one afk or DC after 2 minutes .
What do you think guys ?

It’s really hard to solo Hot maps , mobs is pretty strong . However you can consider Revenant or Engi . They got alot of survival skills .

Do you know why gold mobs still dropping 35-55 copper on max level ? Because it’s raw gold , they can cause inflation . Item drop is difference , you savage them or sold them on TP , get gold from other player . Tax will remove 15 % solid gold from game , keep everything balance . And hell yeah , we play a game where a new player can farm and get ascended gear after 1-2 months . You should thank Anet for that .

I read this on reddit !
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/5fpbe2/guild_wars_2_needs_a_dps_meter_by_nike/dalzo7z/
" PVP scoring doesn’t take into account the player that tanked 2v1 on a point for half the game without actually killing anybody, or if you fight the best fight of your entire GW2 career and knock somebody down to 1% health but they manage to get away at the last second you gain nothing on the scoreboard.
It only rewards people who are standing on a point when it changes state (capped/decapped) or people who tag an enemy right before he dies. I can AFK at spawn for 5 minutes then run into a fight, hit enemies a few times with auto attack, and gain full credit for all the kills plus the point cap………………."

My point is : Remove the current scoring system instead create a new scoring system based on :
+ Damage Dealt
+ Condition Damage Dealt
+ Healing Done
+ Kill , Assist Kill , Ressing …
+ Number of Point Taken
+ Damage Taken
+ Condition Damage Taken
+ Win or Lose
+ ………………………………..

Zephuros.5073:

Whoever says this is a money sink obviously doesn’t know how to play the skritt… Im not giving any tips, simply for fear of nerf… But i roll the dice every day and have learned the secret… Sure you can say that it’s all chance, but he’s got a method to his madness, the people that lose all their g on him do it because they are simply greedy.. I go to him every day and rarely leave without a hefty profit. Quit while you’re ahead… That’s all I’m going to say.

Are you sure you can win everyday ? What if one day you lose gold and you can’t stop trying to get it back ? Here’s my tip : Don’t gambling , if you want gambling . Put all your gold in the table and play only once .

It’s simple . It’s Not 50$ for 3 map and 1 raid map . That’s all i want .

Calm down everyone . What will happen if Legendary Armor can sell on TP ? I don’t mind if the price is 700-800 gold per one piece .
It will be reasonable . If you do raid you can craft it otherwise you can farm gold to buy . Everyone will happy :X

Changing Stat is the most needed thing for me . Don’t have to spend 10-20 gold to change stat , or craft a new ascended armor set .

Mokk.2397:

Here’s another weird one.It has Rune of the Earth Marking but no stats. Kept it as an oddity that I’m really not sure what to do with.

Invisible Rune , i guess)

Don’t use lvl bosster , Tome of knowledge . Slowly leveling , you will see the beauty of this game before it’s runined after 80 ha ha ha .

Well i think Anet did something wrong with this game . Here’s my ideal for them :
+ In PVE , if a class is over power ( OP ) instead of nerf they should buff other class so it will give people multi choice in PVE . " Nerf " always make people feel bad but if they buff other class , more people will happy . Does the mobs , boss … feel bad if you can kill them a little bit easier or faster ?
+ In PVP and WvW they can balance whatever they want . I never complain about the change in PVP and WvW .
TL,DR : Separate PVE and PvP , WvW .

Krinstin.6287:

Please no. It would break the game.
Gliders are fun enough.. This would be just ugh.

It’s not enough , people alway want something new and a lot of people like mount and how can it break our game ? Does it increase base stat , movement speed or give you a buff ?
Seriously i thing mount is just like a ranger pet , a big minion , a special costume you buy in gem store , nothing more .

Raid : good
Fractal : also good now
Farming : Alway boring .
My status right now !

CMM.6712:

Then imagine the lag/fps drop when 2 whole zergs of mounted wvw’ers clash!!!

No thanks!!!

Lag/fps drop , that’s dev jobs , ask them ! For me i just want something new in this game . Beside , it’s good for Anet , they can sell more Gem .

Yes , i love mounts . Imagine if you could ride an elephant to the WvW battle . The enemy should respect you a bit . J/K
I think mounts is a good ideal , no speed increase , disappear when player attack mobs or someones ( WvW ) . I would pay 1000 gem for a Lion to ride it on the WvW battle field .

Obtena.7952:

what is that .. .like 7 greens per grand chest? plus the rare you get? GG!

Maybe the Santa Claus give him 7 greens because he’s a good liar kid =))

AuTomA.2459:

I already answered you about making raw gold from :
Random piece of equipment of at least Masterwork rarity.
Random piece of equipment of at least Fine rarity.

Let’s do a game,tonight i will go for a run of 50 chests and tell u how much raw gold i make from selling all the crap to merchant.

About the gold and kit i had to post it to stop you from being such a kitten

DONE,OPENED 45 CHESTS (9 MAPS) AND GOT AROUND 4.5G SELLING GREEN AND BLUE TO MERCHANT BUT I GUESS I’M THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES THIS INSTEAD OF SALVAGING THEM IN MATS RIGHT?

so basically let’s say i’m just the 10% of people doing this through multiloot,need to make 10 runs to get 4g and 5 runs to make 2g.there u are ur raw gold.

I don’t believe you , 4,5 gold by selling Blue , Green items to merchant from 45 Grand Exalted Chest . Let’s do the math : Blue item sell for few coin , Green sell for 1,5 Silver each ( average ) but let’s just say that you alway get green item when open chest . You must have :
4.5 / 0.015 = 300 ( Green Items ) .
So if i count blue item , The number will be above 300 because i don’t have data of blue , green drop . I think you must have 350 items including green and blue to get 4.5 gold from merchant .
DOES ANYONES HERE BELIEVE THAT HE GETS 300 GREEN ITEMS FROM 45 GRAND EXALTED CHEST ?
YOU’RE A LIAR BRO .

AuTomA.2459:

Bro listen…a lot of players carry with them merchant express which is more likely seen at the endchest in every ABML,do you know what it means?it means that tons of players sell green/blue and white right to the merchant for RAW gold(like sw cf),and nope,green items are not just 1 silver very often they’re a little bit less than the price on TP so it’s around 1.6×.
Ps: I have copper fed salvage kit along with 13k gold cash in my wallet but yeah,thanks for your advice.and for your info i’ve done ab like 10 times in a life,stopped right after realizing it’s broken and totally unlegit.

Who care if you have 13k gold , and a copper salvage kit ? Doing AB 10 times in a life and still worry about RAW GOLD in AB/ML . You must be very good at school bro .
Now , i’m the one who doing homework so answer my question : How can you create more than 2.25 RAW GOLD for me from 50 Grand Exalted Chest ?
Answer it or correct me if i’m wrong and we’ll continous discuss .

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AuTomA.2459:

Do you sell greens white and blue on TP or Merchant to avoid the permablock happening right after u sell around 15 items on tp so fast?That for me is 100% Raw gold.

Ok , let’s make it clear . For example : I open 50 grand chest , i have 50 rares item . If salvage all i might received 50 ectos ( Calculating based on wiki https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glob_of_Ectoplasm/salvage_research )
Now with the price of ectos on TP is 30 silvers ( avarage ),
50 × 0.30 = 15 gold
The tax is 15% so i received 12.75 gold from other player .
2.25 Gold vanished forever from economy system.
Now , the main question : how many green , blue , white item you must sell to create 2.25 RAW GOLD ? Let’s say that all blue , white and green item can sell for 1 silver , you have to sell 225 items to create 2.25 gold . Do you think you can get 225 green , blue , white items in a simple run AB/ML ?
Please , help me create more than 2.25 raw gold so i can see the fallen of the market , the dark side of Trading Port , the end of GW2 ….. !
P/S : i alway salvage all white , blue , green items with Copper-Fed-Salvage Kit . Someone said that if you combine green items in Mystic Forge you could get some rares item but i don’t care , i don’t want to waste time . I think you should buy a Copper-Fed-Salvage Kit , it’s good for your knowledge =))

maddoctor.2738:

IcyTear.6378:

As a seller , you should accept the risk when you invest to something .

Not talking about investments. Talking about selling things after a simple run, which becomes less and less profitable with every day passing, which means you make less gold with every day passing, while prices of many important materials are the same. But I guess the AB Multi looters have no idea of economics, they just watch the ecto price go down and think that it is good for them. Ignorance is bliss

So i suggest they should do AB/ML with us ? What do you expect from " Simple run " ? tons of gold , exotic , precusor …. ? =)) Please , how old are you ?

maddoctor.2738:

IcyTear.6378:

You know what ? I’m tired with people who don’t have any basic knowledge about economy systems like you . You don’t even know what’s good or bad for the game , you only care about yourself . Correct me if i’m wrong , please . Or else , please be quite and let’s Anet do their jobs , they know what’s they’ve done and the result .

How is falling prices exactly good? Sure prices of ectos are dropping but prices for lots of other items remain basically the same, for example AB Multi loot does very little for t2/t3/t4 mats, which ARE the major sink for Ascended items. Linen price hasn’t dropped at all, Seasoned Wood price hasn’t dropped at all, Platinum Ore price hasn’t dropped at all, just some examples.

So the more AB Multi loot players do, the worse it becomes for everyone not doing it AND for the multi looters themselves in the long run. When you did a full AB Multi loot in June you got X gold, now you get a very small fraction of it, while prices of all other things are the same. How is that good even for the AB multi looters themselves????

You are only see this from the view of the buyer, “omg cheaper ectos, that’s good for me, I can buy and do staff with them!” and never from the seller who loses gold every day AB Multi loot is active.

As a seller , you should accept the risk when you invest to something .
" So the more AB Multi loot players do, the worse it becomes for everyone not doing it AND for the multi looters themselves in the long run. When you did a full AB Multi loot in June you got X gold, now you get a very small fraction of it, while prices of all other things are the same. How is that good even for the AB multi looters themselves???? "
Really ? Someone please explain for him . I don’t want to talk anymore .

AuTomA.2459:

IcyTear.6378:

AuTomA.2459:

I totally agree,never seen ecto price going so low,i don’t get why this Multiloot it’s not nerfed yet,i remember when it popped up sw cf it got nerfed like 1 hour later when people jumped from map to map and it was no less profitable than multiloot.Multiloot instead is going on for MONTHS and nobody in Anet takes action against it,it’s breaking the ecto price,the sigil/runes price/the rare items price/the materials for ascends etc,it’s just destroying the market.

So if some item’s price drop that mean " destroying the market " . Wow , such wow . Let’s me tell you what exactly destroy the economy , that’s is RAW GOLD , and do you know where’s it come from ? Daily ( 2 gold ) , Sell item to NPC , TEQ ( 1 gold ) , open chest ( few Silver ) , Convert gem to gold …
Now , looking back at AB/ML , does it generate any RAW gold or just items that you can sell on TP for gold ? And each times you sell somethings on TP , 15% gold vanished from game forever ? Is it good or bad ?
Do you remember when gem price was 150 gold / 400 gem ? Now it’s 100 gold / 400 gem . Your game is saved by AB/ML . So stop blaming and sell all your stack of ectos , you greedy skirt .
)

it’s just opinions right?everyone comes here talking about opinions,what i’ve saw so far is that since multiloot is up important materials dropped drastically in price and i don’t like that,now about the RAW gold,let’s say i farm 50s of junk items i sell to the merchant doing the multiloot and multiplied for thousands of people doing it daily,where’s ur god now?
The thing is my dear “skirt” that multiloot isn’t helping at all the whole economy,but HEY that’s just my opinion.

Edit : and i didn’t quite mention the amount of RAW gold you get by selling green/blue/white to merchant.

The salvage cost is much more than raw gold you received from AB/ML . You only receive “raw gold” from chest ( Noxious Pod ,Heirloom …. ) , and it’s just few silver . Now answer me , What’s kind of junk item which you can sell for 50 silvers from AB/ML ? Because the last times i checked on wiki , there’s no junk item drop from " Grand Exalted Chest " .
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Grand_Exalted_Chest
Oh , i forgot . You can create a huge amount of " Raw gold " by selling everything you received to NPC , sell White , Blue , Green , Yellow items , sell ectos after salvage yellow item , sell exotics item , sell Orb , Diamon …. SELL EVERYTHINGS TO NPC . What’s a smart ideal . I suggest that you should sell your ascended gear and legendary weapon to NPC , it will make our game great again)
You know what ? I’m tired with people who don’t have any basic knowledge about economy systems like you . You don’t even know what’s good or bad for the game , you only care about yourself . Correct me if i’m wrong , please . Or else , please be quite and let’s Anet do their jobs , they know what’s they’ve done and the result .

Here the tip for gambler , play once , if you win -> stop if you lose -> also stop . Play 2 or more times , you’ll alway lose . This content is designed to consume gold . Trust me , I’m an engineer

AuTomA.2459:

I totally agree,never seen ecto price going so low,i don’t get why this Multiloot it’s not nerfed yet,i remember when it popped up sw cf it got nerfed like 1 hour later when people jumped from map to map and it was no less profitable than multiloot.Multiloot instead is going on for MONTHS and nobody in Anet takes action against it,it’s breaking the ecto price,the sigil/runes price/the rare items price/the materials for ascends etc,it’s just destroying the market.

So if some item’s price drop that mean " destroying the market " . Wow , such wow . Let’s me tell you what exactly destroy the economy , that’s is RAW GOLD , and do you know where’s it come from ? Daily ( 2 gold ) , Sell item to NPC , TEQ ( 1 gold ) , open chest ( few Silver ) , Convert gem to gold …
Now , looking back at AB/ML , does it generate any RAW gold or just items that you can sell on TP for gold ? And each times you sell somethings on TP , 15% gold vanished from game forever ? Is it good or bad ?
Do you remember when gem price was 150 gold / 400 gem ? Now it’s 100 gold / 400 gem . Your game is saved by AB/ML . So stop blaming and sell all your stack of ectos , you greedy skirt .
)

Thank for your ideal , we will create new gemstore item : Black Lion Mail Expansion Slot ( 400 Gem )
:))

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SXDZ8jXQ99g/Sj0IZOdSyCI/AAAAAAAABlE/PhB7Lhy4XWE/s320/winlvl3mg.jpg
This please !

Harper.4173:

Vayne.8563:

Hesacon.8735:

hornswroggle.8023:

No.

AB Multilooting is an exploit and it subjectively hurts the economy, because it damages the prices of all tradable loot in the game. It doesnt work in DS for a reason and so it should here.

Fixed.

I’m not sure how it’s subjective. It’s a form of inflation. If you can increase rewards to the point where they’re so profitable that people are threatening to leave if it’s fixed, something is wrong.

No aspect of the game should be so profitable that everything else pales in comparison, particularly something that’s 15 minutes long than almost anyone can do.

When you pour gold/loot into the system, you get inflation, which is objectively bad for the economy.

It forces people to play stuff like the AB multimeta if they want to afford things, because a bunch of people who do it can afford to pay more, and prices go up for everyone…but not everyone does it or wants to do it.

There’s nothing subjective about it.

Do you understand inflation at all? Read what I wrote above.

There is a SET finite amount of gold in this game that is at any moment in time distributed among the players. Inflation IS NOT GENERATED when materials are used as rewards because exchanging those materials with another player takes gold out of the game through the TP.

Inflation is generated when solid gold is added to the game out of thin air – see dungeons.

What you are trying to describe is that it increases the gap between “farmers” and “non-farmers” -but that’s not inflation.
The purchasing power of gold INCREASES every time an AB multi-map finishes – because at the end of it – when people sell everything – there is LESS GOLD IN THE GAME than there was before the AB-multimap. So each gold is now worth a little bit more – since there is LESS OF IT.

Is it really that hard to understand?

Nah , Calm down my friend because " Hater gonna hate " so don’t waste more time explain for them . Anet know what are they doing and what are we doing . And i could say Anet done their job very good this times . I think they should increase 2 rare items/ chest so we can see the price of gem back to 60-80g/400 again :kappa:

Ascended armor or Weapon can change stat .https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Anthology_of_Heroes

Vayne.8563:

Hesacon.8735:

Vayne.8563:

I disagree. Creating more gold means more people can offer more to buy stuff. So maybe ectos come down a drop, that’s true. That’s one item. But higher end items can actually end up going up.

The problem is when people have more gold they can afford to pay more for luxury items. Items end up in bidding wars and they go higher then the average player will ever be able to afford.

People who used to get ectos from the world boss train will return to the world boss train. The price of ectos isn’t that much lower than back then.

But the price of a lot of other stuff, higher end stuff keeps going up, because people have more money and can outbid each other.

No gold is created in AB. Seriously, have you gotten a single coin from a chest in AB? Go try one out.

Salvaging costs coin, selling on the trading post costs coin, keys cost coin. You might get 2-3 silver per map from champion bags in chests, much less than it costs in coin to run the map.

Coin is destroyed because of AB, it has the opposite effect to what you think is happening.

Let’s think about this, say you do 5 maps and get 25 ectos. How does this balance sheet work in terms of coin removed from the economy? Let’s say ectos sell for 33 silver, they’ve been floating around there.

• -15.36 silver from salvaging
• +15 silver from champion bags

Let’s say these cancel out.

33 silver * 25 ectos = 8.25 gold

• You get 7 gold (after the 15% trading post tax)
• 1.25 gold vanishes from the economy never to be seen again

Fewer coins in circulation causes deflation. If there is inflation, it’s coming from elsewhere like 2 gold per day for doing dailies.

Ecto prices would almost certainly rise without AB in its current form, remember when ectos were over 50 silver each?

http://www.gw2shinies.com/item/19721

Two things happened to bring them down:

• Someone posted about AB on the forums, so people knew about the multi-map and more people started to do it, increasing supply and lowering prices
• Some people horded ectos thinking AB was going to be nerfed with the summer update. When it wasn’t, people unloaded their ectos leading to a sudden shock to the supply

But the underlying uses of them haven’t gone down. So if AB gets nerfed, ecto prices will go back up, probably to 50 silver or higher over a couple weeks. That is subjectively either a good or a bad thing depending on who you ask, my entire point.

If you’re creating an item, whether it’s coin or worth coin, you’re causing inflation. People are making money from selling stuff to other people, but they’re still getting money much faster than they otherwise would be. That’s why multimapping is so popular. It’s not popular because ZOMG AB is the most fascinating event in all of Guild Wars 2. AB is the most profitable event in all of Guild Wars 2. Inflation or not that actually represents a problem. It’s not just more profitable but MUCH more profitable. If it wasn’t threads like this probably wouldn’t exist.

When people get large amounts of money from getting ten times the reward they would normally get, I don’t see how anyone can not expect that to affect the economy.

And since this is now very tangential to the topic at hand I’m going to have to leave it here, because I can’t afford more infractions.

Well , i think you don’t understand how Economics work . First , You need understand about " Raw Gold " , " Raw Gold " is a kind of gold you received directly from Game System like : Open Chest ( few silver ) , Daily Complete ( 2 gold ) , Do TEQ ( 1 gold ) , sell item direct to NPC … This is a kind of gold which is added to Economics System and cause inflation .
Trade between player and player is just moving gold from other to other and Hey ! Tax is the most nice thing which is invented by human …. That’s how gold remove from Game .
The last time i check in AB multi map : IT’s just generate item which sell on TP for gold .
So , basically . If you want inflate Economics system i suggest you sell everything you received when playing game to NPC : Material , Ectos , Green Blue Yellow Item even ascended and legendary item ……Sell everything

Ok , let’s me do the math for all of you :
In AB map , the maximum Grand Chest you can get in each map is 5 . Because of the timegate for chest loot you can only jump to 4 maps to get the chest if you are fast enough ( believe me , i try many times and normally just can jump to 3 maps ) . For 3-4 map you will get 15-20 rare items and :
Ectos produced per Rare item with a Master’s/Mystic Salvage Kit ( From GW2 Wiki )
Quantity————Chance———-15 Items——20 Items
0———————36.75% —-——-5.475———-7.35
1———————47.00% —-——-7.05 —-——-9.4
2———————8.25% —-——-1.2375———1.65
3———————8.00% —-———1.2————-1.6
So normally you will get 14-18 Ectos . It’s 4-5.14 gold with tax deductions ( The Price of Ecto i check atm is 34 Silvers ) , and plus with some Masterwork Item + chance of Orb and Black Diamon + Seed Pod ( Please don’t tell me about very rare chance of exotic or ascended Weapon Chest ) . It’s could be 5-7 gold .
And the most important thing is : It’s is not raw gold , you have to sell Ectos and other item on Trading Post to get gold . And if the number of an item increase it’s price will decrease , that’s how TP work , right ? Today it’s 5-7 gold and now there’re more and more people know about this farming method and do it so I guess tomorrow it could be 3-4 gold and next week , next month could be1-2 . It will decrease day by day .
Don’t worry boys, TP know how to balance itself .
In my opinion , the reason that cause inflation in this game is :
- GW2 is an old MMORPG
- Botter
- Lack of event , activities that consume gold .
That’s my thought .

Do TEQ , Triple Trouble , Fractal , daily Quest , craft once a day ascended materials , Bloodstone Fen , Auric Basin Octovine , Dwayna Temple , …. That’s my daily .