Guild Wars 2

Hey, I’ve been in KING 9-10 months and I just quickly stopped by to say if you enjoy fractals, efficient runs, the harder world bosses, PvE content definitely send in an application, not once have I regretted joining and to be honest I actually feel fortunate to be a part of this guild, while usually I’m a pretty big care-bear about those kind of things.

Hey, I didn’t fully read the thread but I read the OP and as someone with 43 chars or something, I definitely feel your pain, and indeed a few options added here would be a great thing for us althoholics.

I was a latecomer to gw1 pvp too, I for the life of me never found a team to play with and in gw1 I only wanted to pvp, it was always rank 40+, which I wasnt even close too, and the teams I could assemble obv never made it past 2 consecutive games. Wasn’t much fun.

They haven’t as far as I know, but it just makes logical sense that they create something to grind for.

When we hit that time when every pve player has 5 legendaries, they will introduce new ones. Same thing here, it’s their job,.

It’s only corrosive if you assume everyone plays pvp mainly to achieve dragon finisher.

You don’t need to be terrified at all, you’re brain is playing a trick on you because your goal is suddenly virtually reached. But you see the truth is surely arenanet will create more rewards for pvp players that create some distinction between 5 years players and 3 months players, most likely ranks going up over 80 forever comes to mind.

You are one of the lucky few who are benefitting the most from the changes, the only reason why you panick is because you can’t see your new goal yet.

PS; I’m positive that the new rewards system will be interesting enough to keep you playing for a good while and when that runs out, I’m sure another goal will be designed/developped/put in game by the dev’s that at least gets u a bit motivated to play, after all it is their job.

(Yes r80 and ranks as it is now is probably the main reason why some people are grinding their souls away, to try and stand out from the crowd/get some online adoration/be proud of something, those are probably also the most vocal right now concerning the subject. But the new rewards and possible new goals and future implementations into pvp will motivate far more people than the rank system ever did.)

TL:DR=
Ranks as it is now only motivates those who are very high rank (65+) since those are the ones that stand out because of it. = +- 600 players maybe?
On the other hand it demotivates everyone who is not high rank.

Make ranks trivial/outdated, add a LS like achievement system to pvp and boom the casuals flow in like crazy and queu time shortens and all kind of other nice benefits for everyone.

I’m not saying this is the way I like it per se, but it’s definitely not a bad strategy, and it is a drastic one yes but to be honest it’s necessairy to keep the pvp alive.

They were going to remove rank, no one wanted that.

Arenanet listened (kind off) and kept rank, but made it more obviously trivial.

April 16th we will have a more active pvp community then ever before, new rewards to earn and shorter queu times.

I do feel for those like ostrich but they are an incredibly big minority, and while they deserve some compensation, I doubt there will be anything fair thats enough… If they give all those that are rank 60 (presumably too much for dragon) a special title that is no longer obtainable, a rank 59 could’ve pushed himself till that 60 “if he had known” and so on and so on.

Everyone over dragon should get as many rank chests as they are over it, capped at the maximum number, which I guess would be like 25? And yes, then still you wouldnt be rewarded fairly, but look at the fractured update, huge changes usually bring some drama with it. Can’t do much else but have faith in the devs, that they are making the right decisions that is best to have an active pvp environment.

ps; Lux, please stop throwing temper tantrums like you’re a 4 year old with a dictionairy,
I don’t know you, but your posts are a pain to read, what you believe makes a good debater has no place in this thread.

I occasionally play PvP, and today was no different. (r26, 920th place on teamQ leaderboard)

I joined solo Q, match started and gw2 disconnects for me.
This has not really ever happened before for me, I work alot on the PC and have an active alternate internet connection in place in case something like this happens given I’m on alot of conference calls with clients etc.

Eitherway, the backup gets running and I reconnect to guild wars, one minute has past and score is like 80-10 or something for the other team.

Some guys on my team start typing in /team its loose guys lets just give up and go afk, and 2 actually end up doing this, whilst berating those of us who don’t.
Like it’s the most normal thing in the world to just go afk if you are not winning so that you lose faster and can continue farming rank, I find this pretty despicable and definitely would like to report these players.

I really want to report these guys, not only were they very insulting towards me after I returned (which I get to some extent but still using my pc so often for my work and with the precautions I have in place I find it hard to say that I deserved this or did anything wrong, I also have the best internet connection in my country, so it’s not like I am playing from my mobile phone internet in the jungle or something) They also boycotted the entire rest of the match while I dont feel like 80-10 means its lost at all!!

I just dont know how to report these guys, anyone who can help me here?

I don’t care much about fractals, im not a hardcore dungeon runner or anything.

Yet many of the issues raised here by people such as Nike, are legit.

I just feel so so deeply saddened by the lack of communication from arenanet onwards, this is your living story event, it’s almost past now, and you have communicated nothing concerning the many questions, doubts, bugs, and so forth about it.

I just dont understand how as a company you can justify this. I’m not calling names, or trying to be rude, I loved gw1, and I like gw2, but it should not be ok to create a living story update, receive some justified criticism for it and as response just stop all communication concerning this living story and “just let it blow over”.

It comes off as very disrespectfull towards your customers, and is just so unproffesional. (same thing with the massive amounts of posts about the wvw chests that remain unanswered)

Ive checked dulfy, but most of the digging spots are nerfed and I dont have enough money for the bomb

Most of my guildies have been playing for a pretty long time. Theyve almost all done SAB 1 achies etc and have no interest in redoing it. I dont think they should do that for me either.

I was on a holiday during SAB 1. Hence I dont have any of the upgrades or the achies.
Now im trying to do SAB 2 with my guildies, hoping that it wasnt mandatory to have done sab1 first… And what happens? I dont have the coin purse, so I cant even buy the items in world 2. I first have to go back to SAB 1, solo everything, get all the upgrades, and THEN I can join my guildies who are by then probably fed up with SAB2 yet.

Why oh why arenanet do i have to grind for another currency all by myself in an isolated instance, for a worthless currency thats only usable in that instance, just so I could actually play with my friends in that instance?

And how am i supposed to get baubles? I cant use the dig spots because theyve all been severely reduced in world 1. I really dont know how im going to get 1000 baubles + unless I decide to sit here the entire day, running alone in world 1, killing monkeys.

I really cannot express how disappointed I am. I even bought an infinite continue coin, but its of not much use to me now, unless I decide to first grind a solid 24 hours…

Let me first clear something up about myself.

I am a PVE hero.

I have 12 characters, a legendary, and over 1.500 hours played in the past 11 Months. To top that off I have many lvl 80s and a commander character.

I am ONLY rank 17 in pvp. I simply do the dailys everyday, sometimes in soloq, mostly in hot join.

My guild only has a very minor interest in PvP, we only play it on mondays, as a guild. For a few hours each week.

I am THE casual PVP player, who stumbled onto this topic by accident trough google, never checking any pvp forum really…

And I 1000000% Support this.

Why? Its simple, its just a great idea.
Having a way to win gems in PvP (I have to believe this was somewhat intended given it was originally implemented) would stimulate the pvp play SO SO much. Despite me, not having a decent pvp team, probably never winning any of those tournaments. I still have to say, it sounds so freakin cool, to be able to win a gold cape for winning a pvp tournament and getting gems out of PvP.

Since gems can be converted to gold as well, pve players will actively add PvP to their daily playtime!

Please do this arenanet…
Add gems to the pvp rewards (I view this as most urgent/most important chance to win gems and only secondly the tournament structure, because the tournament structure without an appropriate reward such as gems, will not help much on its own as far as it goes for getting people like me into PvP)

Phaeton please post a vid ;D

I dont understand how long ur stun takes but I have a pretty hard time getting an entire chain off w/o my enemy running away ;(

Hi, My question is two sided, I do have a commander tag but dont nearly spend as much time in WvW as I did the first few months. And took a short break around the time this feature was included.

1) How do these settings influence my game precisely? At first I thought it was pretty straightforward as in, if you put character limit on highest and texture on lowest everyone would look default but I’d be able to see everyone, however now ive read up on something that says that the non default models still load, and after a while you will be able to see everyone as they are or so… Im very confused about it now, and hoping you guys can give me some clarity.

2) What settings should I take? I want my game to run smoothly and have a decent computer. But if at all possible I should still see as much of the fight as possible (for obvious reasons)

If it helps any to answer this second question, my PC has the following components (roughly):

-MSI geforce gtx 560 TI graphics card
-16 gb corsair Ram
-Intel I7 2700K (not overclocked) so at 3,5 Ghz
-SSD (GW2 is installed on the SSD, altho I doubt this matters much?)

All help would be appreciated.

no way lol, this would kitten everyone off who saved for a legendary so much…

cheshirefox.7026:

the fact that they haven’t offered a mini specific inventory bag by now is beyond me
disappointing

That I can live with, the fact that this thread is 8 months old, weekly/monthly bumped up by a new group of users requesting the same thing, who mind you are polite enough to keep it all in one thread instead of starting a new one every time, and it having been moved from a diff subsection already by a moderator, yet still has no reply whatsoever from a developper, that is truly beyond me

Not to mention on reddit, the issue gets raised on a MONTHLY basis, and this month, there were 3 threads about it already by seperate users…

I feel like its one of the most wanted polishes right now, definitely in the top 5, yet not even a reply.

Kal Spiro.9745:

redfenix.6380:

Kal Spiro.9745:

redfenix.6380:

lol I have thought about the 3D printer idea before actually but I have to agree that I came to the same conclusion. Learning it well enough to get it to look good isn’t really something I care to do. I can just “farm” cash from my job and buy it from them.

Honestly my biggest confusion is the lack of clothing and accessories. I get that personalized stuff would be harder to come up with but hoodies and shirts? Not to mention that they could even do some limited runs of living story inspired stuff for some of the bigger events such as halloween/wintersday/dragon bash. They could do a limited run that would fit the timing of the events plus players love to have exclusive stuff.

The simple answer is that manufacturing costs and the profit margins aren’t necessarily worth it to NCSoft since it is ultimately NCSoft who would be doing it, not ANet.

Do you really believe that with all the money we spend on gems and in game items that NC Soft wouldn’t turn a decent profit by actually making things I can touch, wear, and use in real life? I’m normally pretty reserved on the interwebs about things so if I want it bad enough I know there are others who feel the same way.

Um, yes. I spent ten dollars this month for 800 gems to get the salvage slot machine. That is $10 of pure profit with zero overhead and the is the least I could pay for gems without using gold. In order to make actual physical things they need to pay for design, materials, manufacturing, and shipping. Then they have to sell the thing for a cost you’d be willing to pay. How much of that cost do you really think is left after the fact. From what I understand of the process, we’re usually talking a dollar, kind of profit. It’s not worth it when they can make ten times that for literally nothing.

Fully agree with this post. While it looks worthwhile to have this since there is an obvious demand, It probably isnt because they would have to hire employees to not work on virtual items who make them money for something virtual in the gem store, for a lower profit.

And all those points you make here are very good ones (shipping/design/1$ per sale profit) why if they want to hire new people for it, it would be smarter to really hire more people for more stuff in the gem store then for non virtual items. Its just the logistics of it all. I hope im wrong I really do, but if they never release anything like that, I wont fault em or say they are silly for not capitalising on this demand, because it does make sense.

redfenix.6380:

JackBeShippin.4159:

Also agree with some of the upper points that state that the profit margin might simply be too small for arenanet, given their limited resources (= non infinite staff) and the amount of work that crawls into development of guild wars 2 already AND how much money they make of gemsales already which requires no “non-virtual” produtcs, no shipping hassle etc it makes sense from a bussiness perspective that they’d prefer to focus on adding more to the gemstore rather then setting up a secondary physical store.

I can agree with the staffing point and even the hassle point. I do believe however that A-net is getting to a point where these things should be seriously considered.

Hey and so do I! Because of the playerbase possibly reaching a height right around now, a year from now gw2 might be kinda an old game already, if its not considered that by many people who dont play now already.
But I also believe in the immense power of large corporations like anet/ncsoft.
Meaning, If you and I who (at least I) dont have any real experience working in a logistics department of a major worldwide MMO, feel like this should be considered, there are surely a ton of people at arenanet who feel the same way, AND have the skills and experience to run the logistics on it and decide if profit wise, for the company, it is best to implement it or not.

So what I mean to say is, given the millions of revenue and expenses guild wars 2 has, im sure there are more capable people then us who make this end decision, and also a ton of people who work on the logistics of it, and perhaps somewhat sad for us, depending on how they perceive all the data they have acces too (and we dont again) they will weigh the benefits and come to a more informed decision if this “should” exist or not. Again to make sense from a company’s perspective. Hence what I’m really saying is, I feel like its time to have this, others feel so too. But if it will ever exist or not, is not up to goodwill or us asking about it in a few threads, its about the logistics which Anet will use to make an informed decision.

So surely they have been/are/will contemplate this as well, of that im sure. But we’ll only get it, if it seems worthwhile, and that im not so sure off, however if it seems worthwhile, fear not, it will happen

no to soulbound
no to no visual effect

UserError.7150:

OH OH I KNOW WHAT THEY MISSED, PICK ME PICK ME!!!!

They m,issed the countless bugs that THEY dont care about but ALOT of their gamers do that have been their since the beta. hell alot of them have gotten worse with game updates (not better) and i just seams like they dont care about the same things the gamers do anymore

since actions speak loader than words, this must mean they dont care. I mean if you blatantly ignored someone, wouldnt that mean you didnt care about them and that you wanted them to leave you alone about it?

Also this so much, at times i really wish they would just put the living story on hold for a month or so , and fix the small bugs that dont get mentioned anymore because everyone is kinda living with em and aware of em so theirs no more point in discussing em among the community, we really need a huge quality of life upgrade, both with minor additions in features and bugfixes that are seriously overdue but not getting any attention anymore nowadays.

UserError.7150:

mini’s, even in gw1 (w/ the exception of the hall of monuments, which was REALLY late in the game) were always useless, just a personal reward item if u liked that kind of thing

Very true, but there, we didnt pay real life money for minis, we didnt get as much minis for completing stuff as we do now.

Now we are literally being thrown minis to our head, Ive collected like 6 in the last month just in achies/living story stuff.

The truth is, in guild wars 1 they had no function and it was fine, also more acceptable because rendering everyones mini everytime all the time was probably too stressing for the core of the game and what it was build on.

But in guild wars 2, they seem to really stress the importance of minis more, Importance is the wrong term, but I cant think of any better. Every living story we almost always have a mini pack in the gem store, + one or two (like with the elections) from achievements, + getting for birthday.

What I am trying to say is minis are way more present in gw2 then in gw1, and this seems like an obvious choice by the developpers. Therefor they should also upgrade their functioning or mechanics, so we can at least enjoy it a little bit more then just having it sit in bank, like it did for the majority of the time in gw1.

Even an auto equip slot, or polymock, would be a great improvement and would actually make getting as much new minis as we do now with the living story interesting and fun and exciting again. Now im just showing off my liadri for 1-2 days then its going back to the bank forever I guess, and next week ill show off my queen jenna a little bit and put it in the bank after that as well… Or carry it with me, but never care enough to actually take it out.

Point is, you cant compare gw1 & gw2 mini mechanics wise imo, because in gw2 minis are way way way more present.

Yes pretty sure it would be illegal in most countries. Else by now someone surely would’ve started a bussiness in this, if it truly was that easily done, and possible to just sell to people.

Also agree with some of the upper points that state that the profit margin might simply be too small for arenanet, given their limited resources (= non infinite staff) and the amount of work that crawls into development of guild wars 2 already AND how much money they make of gemsales already which requires no “non-virtual” produtcs, no shipping hassle etc it makes sense from a bussiness perspective that they’d prefer to focus on adding more to the gemstore rather then setting up a secondary physical store.

So I can definitely understand why arenanet/ncsoft hasnt made it yet, HOWEVER given the scale of their income and the playerbase probably declining over years to come instead of further increasing, it seems like now would be a good time to hire 20-50 people to work on this store who would most likely be able to be paid straight off of non-virtual merchandise and still have a profit left, however probably not worth the hassle extra work for them, because lets say they make 50k the first month, and 30K the second, It might very well decline, after all, how much t shirts does one person need, therefor in the beginning it will give quite a decent profit but will possibly be less worthwhile as time goes on.

So I can definitely see why this does not exist, but I would love it if it did and I would definitely spend some serious money if it did, that being said I also spent alot on gems now for all the cool stuff they have in the gemstore, so probably not that much of a gain for them.

yeah so so broken the search another quality of life update that we need, fix the search bar lol. as far as race change goes, hmm I guess its alright, dont think it should be high on priority list tho tbh

miss it so much ;( hope aspect arena gets included, f southsun survival soooo boring after youve won 3-4 times just kittening out with medpacks

anet missing possible income left and right, should really have implemented this from the start!

Also, img files for posters? :o

Yeah better to blame Evon then to blame anet i guess #brainwash

I feel like if i got the chance to direct and manage the guild wars 2 team for 3 hours a day for a month, I could get so many of these small changes implemented into the game that wont be selling points at first look, but eventually will up the quality of life on tyria by so much that it will just straight up become a game that no other is on par with.

Like seriously, the living content, its great, im all for it. But I wouldnt mind not having any for 2 weeks if that meant getting a consumable item, a mini pet slot, and all the other good suggestions in this thread, because it would make every living story forward more attractive.

I would have enjoyed liadri so much more would i have now had the ability to show it off always! and thats just a simple example now its already tucked away in my bank…

Honestly anet, just pick like 10 suggestions that arent mounts from this thread and some of the others here that seem to get alot of support, and you would probably satisfy over 40% of your current customer base, way more then another trip of going to balloons, resulting in more gem purchases out of gratitude, or make some of these items sellable in the gem store= more income with same effort. And then when uve implemented the best suggestions in this subforum, well, theres not that much more left really, ive read trough it really quick and there are some very vital things we are missing right now, but once those are in, everything else is optional imo, and the game will be truly out of beta in my mind. At which point i will start recommending it to my friends.

yes this would be nice, and like you say, minis are totally useless right now, we really need some kind of auto-equip slot, or this, or anything else that reworks minis, or im going to quit collecting them fully, its just a pain/gold sink for an icon in my bank right now.

I dont think there is that much gold to make with the current farming. ive done the path a bit and honestly, yes you can make up to 10g/hour on a good run, that means when commander knows what hes doing, and when other smaller zergs arent messing up the rotation, which is like, pretty much never. This leads to many people overrating the profitability of this farm imo, and seeing how poorly this farm gets done, I dont think dr or a nerf are in place. The 5 gambit farm is a wayyyy bigger problem, even if it only stays for this period of time, some people already have made 2000g+ on it…

No dr or nerf on this please. If you nerf or dr it, champions again, wont be worth actively pursuing and adding champion loot in the first place will be worthless

they need to add a mini pet slot first tho :p

Hey, I really wondered about the giganticus lupicus as well when I first met him in arah P1, If im not mistaken my NPC said something along the lines of (english version) “Lets just hope thats not the last of em” which also puzzled me for a good bit, right now ive just accepted that zhaitan had rezzed that one from the dead, untill I see more in game

darkace.8925:

The game’s almost a year old now, and we’re still missing some basic quality of life features. A LFG tool is supposedly in the works and the recent Wallet feature was a great addition, but there are still some basic features I’m sure most of us can agree should be in the game.

Buy/Open X
Anyone who has ever had to buy or open a stack of something one item at a time can attest to the tedium and wrist strain that comes in so doing. The option to set our buy quantities or open an entire stack I’m sure would be most welcome by everyone.

Mini-Pet Slot
I’ve seen many players call for a slot to equip specific mini-pets. I don’t personally use them, but I don’t see what harm could come in having a slot for them.

Consumables Slots
Like mini-pets, I’ve seem many players (myself included) request a slot or four so we can hotkey consumables (food, stones/oils/crystals, stuff like Ash Legion Spy Kits, fireworks, etc).

Build Templates
I’ve designed each of my characters to play a specific way, and they’re set in stone. But I’ve seen many players ask for the ability to save different builds so they can change up their playstyle with a minimum of hassle.

Wardrobe
I’m not entirely sure I’m interpreting this request correctly, but I think many players would like a PvE Locker similar to PvP Lockers wherein skins we’ve equipped are added for unlimited use. I don’t know what implications this would have on the economy, but I do see it come up often.

That’s what jumps to mind when I think of quality of life changes we’d all like to see. Have I missed anything?

PS – As race changes, mounts, and account bound dyes aren’t going to happen, so I don’t see any point in including them in this discussion. Similarly, there seems to be as many people against the idea of open world dueling as there are behind it, so I omitted it as well.

I support of this post, simply because it does seem something that is worthwhile, and also reasonable. Meaning you foresaw what would most likely never be implemented either due to lore or simply not fitting in gw, and didnt ask for it despite probably not being opposed actually having it in the game.

So congrats on listing the important things we need NOW to improve the quality of life, that are not too far stretched or impossible.

I would also pay gems for a mini pet slot !!!

same question here!

Jinkai.4130:

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I am terribly sorry if i offended you, I in no way meant to say you were a toddler. I am just trying to use 2 extremes from the real world (a toddler with no job skills vs a highly educated grown up) to compare that to a lvl 10 vs a fully ascended geared lvl 80 in guild wars. And trying to say those 2 cannot accomplish challenges equally well.

Again, I dont really want to expand on this further, but I do apologise, it was never my intention to make it look as if I (or anyone should) look towards you as if you are an actual toddler. I totally understand that some people have less time to play, as I sometimes myself take multi-month breaks because of real life being too swamped. So I apologise if my post came off harsher then it was supposed to.

For what it is worth, I check this thread weekly, sometimes daily hoping for a response, its so so excruciating and soul crushing to never see one ;(

also; what it is without the I in is gets autocorrected to whakitten, I can see the reason for this pretty clearly, but maybe loosen it a little ?

Yeah that would be the bare minimum, like seriously, an entire community has been asking for this for over 7 months now, for a game thats 11 months old, thats pretty much a constant since start request!

You offer so much minis in the store, as rewards etc, yet you dont give us the option to REALLY use them.

If you really cant do this or dont want to do this for a real reason, then at least come out and say it, and not let us sit here hopefull for 7 months now already, that our miniature collection will be off some use.

A simple no would suffice, but any kind of communication would be soooo appreciated

I did not know dulfy got this, and im horribly against it.

I know im going to be hated on immensely for stating my opinion here, but I am hoping to open a windows of discussion before this becomes something common. Now to be clear, I do visit dulfys site and I do watch woodenpotatoes and enjoy it. But that is not the point here.

Id rather have it they give this to someone who maybe spends 10.000euro or something rediculous in gems lifetime as a very unique reward then this way.

Simply because they do make income of off their videos and websites after all… So I dont feel like they are doing a huge community service from the bottom of their heart or something and believe they are sometimes overglorified. Their E-public appearance and storytelling earns them fame amongst all guild wars players. That should be more then enough.

They arent doing this just to help you, or so, while thats definitely part of their motivation I believe, and I dont want to speculate about numbers too much, I do believe they make a moderate living off of it.
No one else who sees it like this?
(not trying to be a jerk/party-pooper) I just dont see it.

If this would be all community service, id be all for it. But given thakittens probably their job, I feel like the stardom which they justifyable deserve inside the game is already big enough without the devs adding in extra perks centered around their "celebrity"status. Id rather have they give these rewards to people who have contributed in an exceptional matter otherwise.

please please please arenanet, theres been a constant request for this for over 7 months, go go !

This whole thread is rediculous.

Im going to make a slightly exagerated analogy to the real world here.

OP is a 4 year old toddler that wants to earn the same paycheck a PHD graduate has, and he wants it now, instantly, since the PHD graduate gets it somehow, he should get it too, else its no fair.
Not too forget, in this analogy, the entire world except for “the paycheck/reward/this particular achievement” is already cathered to the toddler into the extreme.

You can literally do everything except for something most people with even 1000hours+ playtime and fully geared chars cant and you complain its not fair?

What is your viewpoint of fairness then? Regardless how hard anyone “worked” on their character development/gearing/… they should only be able to achieve the same things you can else you feel like its not fair?

Op you just sound spoiled troughout the entire thread. Hope its not offensive, its not meant that way. But seriously, you needed a reality check.

Do you guys have a website/how many members do u currently have? Is there a grace period or training period for recent joiners? In other words if a new player meets your requirements, and has several chars and all skills unlocked etc, do you provide some builds team wise and some “training wheels” at first?

Balth is uncontested now at gunnars hold EU

Clearing balth tonight at 6 PM GMT at EU server Gunnar’s Hold, feel free to drop by we meet at rally waypoint

Any european uncontested temple of balthazar?

It seems like the website isnt working to give me a discount im curious if this is just for me or for everyone, it being a time sensitive promotion its kind off annoying as well…

Heres a video to explain what I mean better:

Jrunyon, I appreciate and respect your point of view, I have some more thoughts to add on it, and Im going to crosspost again, unfortunately I wont be getting into a too big discussion here because im already active in other topics and I dont want to spam the forums or side track em so much and just copy paste my posts all over every tonic related tonic. That is obvioulsy not my intention. However I did feel like it was mandatory to reply to you.

JackBeShippin.4159:

I dont necessairly wish to shift blame or something.
But honestly, without us doing it and regretting it, you wouldnt know not to do it now… So im not sure why you are hating on me/the people who went ahead and try it.

Also I believe this is an MMO, This implies a social aspect, and social behaviour should be encouraged. (social behaviour as in testing recipes and sharing them with each other). We can even see that a developper posted well done when someone posted the recipes for some wintersday items in a different thread. So arenanet seems to be aware of this and shows that they encourage social behavior/testing and sharing recipes online/ and so on. Im simply trying to point out that for a certain part of people this really made wintersday very sour and furthermore discourages social behaviour like testing recipes and sharing them. How many of the people that did this, will in the future still put things in the forge and share it with you? Or will they all become lurkers on forums and wait for others to test things? What happened here encouraged anti-social behaviour in a huge manner, and because of those reasons im very sceptical to believe that arenanet intended it this way. Given that its an mmo and that usually social behaviour is encouraged by the developpers.

Furthermore, alot of people are unhappy right now, I was absolutely loving the event, it was the best one yet, and really made me feel superhappy, everything was great, I wasnt too happy with the mini’s being luck bound now instead of just buy them but aside from that I felt like I was having a great time. Now (and I can only speak for myself here) Im literally disgusted and have a sour taste in my mouth when I think of wintersday and guild wars 2 in general. I dont think arenanet wants their customers to feel like this either….

Im a completionist and I spend alot of money on this, yet now I cant complete it anymore despite even spending a nice amount of money, which is the sour feeling im experiencing now

AcidicVision.5498:

JackBeShippin.4159:

…and read on forums that it might seem very possible you get an endless toymakers tonic from it. So I get a little hasty throw em into the forge and boom, I get a robot endless tonic…
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…and now this whole debacle with the tonics? It’s just the last straw for me.

My favorite part in there is where you admit to reading it from strangers on the internet, understand getting the toy-maker tonic is only a possibility, and own up to your own impatience…

And then blame ArenaNet that things didn’t go your way.

I dont necessairly wish to shift blame or something.
But honestly, without us doing it and regretting it, you wouldnt know not to do it now… So im not sure why you are hating on me/the people who went ahead and try it.

Also I believe this is an MMO, This implies a social aspect, and social behaviour should be encouraged. (social behaviour as in testing recipes and sharing them with each other). We can even see that a developper posted well done when someone posted the recipes for some wintersday items in a different thread. So arenanet seems to be aware of this and shows that they encourage social behavior/testing and sharing recipes online/ and so on. Im simply trying to point out that for a certain part of people this really made wintersday very sour and furthermore discourages social behaviour like testing recipes and sharing them. How many of the people that did this, will in the future still put things in the forge and share it with you? Or will they all become lurkers on forums and wait for others to test things? What happened here encouraged anti-social behaviour in a huge manner, and because of those reasons im very sceptical to believe that arenanet intended it this way. Given that its an mmo and that usually social behaviour is encouraged by the developpers.

Furthermore, alot of people are unhappy right now, I was absolutely loving the event, it was the best one yet, and really made me feel superhappy, everything was great, I wasnt too happy with the mini’s being luck bound now instead of just buy them but aside from that I felt like I was having a great time. Now (and I can only speak for myself here) Im literally disgusted and have a sour taste in my mouth when I think of wintersday and guild wars 2 in general. I dont think arenanet wants their customers to feel like this either….

I honestly feel happy that people who didnt risk it, seem compassionate and sticking up for those who did risk it. It makes me feel a bit better about it all, knowing that some do appreciate those that “go ahead and test it to let the others know” rather then that we are all waiting for “someone else” to try it.

The questions are:

- How easy/hard do you find it to get the new minis? (Mystery Box & Giant Wintersday Gift droprate)
Too hard… I spent more then id like to admit in the gem store on mystery boxes before actually having all 4 the mini’s and it didnt pay off at all ;(

- Are you satisfied with the given options to get the minipets?
absolutely NOT

Its obvious that they are just trying to recuperate their money from making the weapon skins not chance related anymore. I think making the minipets chance related is actually PLAYER-UNFRIENDLY, yup thats right, i said it, customer UNFRIENDLY is what it is.

- Have you bought/Will you buy any Mystery Boxes from the gemstore this Wintersday?
Yes, Ive bought more then Id like to admit, and ill most likely never buy em again

- Would you have bought the minipets from the gemstore if you were able to buy them? (No random drop from chest – You simply buy the minipet you want.)
Yes, instantly. Without a doubt. yes yes yes

I really agree with OP, its super frustrating, I myself spent 120$ on mystery boxes before I hit all 3 the minis (and 3 spares to mystic forge a quaggan)

They have listened to customer feedback and made the weapon skins non gamble, but they now made the minis supergamble :s