Guild Wars 2

Ins.7139:

What a complete and utter joke anet. Why do you think Saturday’s have more population? Because no-one plays on a Friday before reset unless running around k training. You have now just turned Friday night and Saturday morning into a glorified k train.

The WvW community that has stuck with you changing things for the worse regardless of our opinions will still be here stuck with this crap reset time. All your new players and the PvE crowd that flood WvW and are one the main reasons WvW turns into a k train won’t stick around longer than a month or 2 once they have what they need.

We love Friday night reset – all time zones are able to participate and you get the best competition. What about all of us that have Saturday jobs, have families or you know actually like getting in from work on a Friday, cracking open a beer and then cracking open some skulls in game. kitten right tempted to demand a refund on expansion and kitten to anything you offer may aswell go f2p instead of funding you to keep annoying the majority of us.

It’s just beyond belief how detached you guys are from the WvW scene…..

And just to add, the only reason you are doing this is to give you more time to fix bugs and glitches that YOU guys implement due to poor coding or insufficient testing beforehand. Absolutely fuming!

Me and Ins as most of Desolation know rarely agree on anything… but I agree with everything he says …… This change makes absolutely no sense. Perhaps you should actually try playing the game instead of breaking it every single time you do a patch. Or perhaps at least consult with those people that actually play WvW instead of just looking at numbers on a screen.

If numbers are all you base decisions on instead of actually speaking to those loyal WvW players who have stuck with it through good times and bad times (and ets face it… we struggle to think of any good times) then you keep watching those numbers… watch them drop away until the WvW game mode dies out because you have shown nothing but contempt for those same players.

There is only so much players will put up with before they start voting with their feet.. a lot have probably stayed with GW2 in anticipation that the new expansion might actually bring something new for them.. something better. Sadly it seems we are wrong.

I suggest Handarand’s video from Season 2 of the Leagues. Wouldn;t even need to edit it much.

http://youtu.be/A4nq8IAEMjM

Thanks for the GvG’s SOUL. It was very enjoyable and as has already been said, we haven’t had that much fun in a long time.

Thank you too [INC] It was fun for us too. Apologies to [FIRE] for the delay meaning we didn’t get to fight but hopefully next time

Sure you have the right thread? Just got a flashback to March time since thats when the WvW branch of IRON left.

I sincerely hope you don’t, I actually feel sorry for UW in this matchup, I’m sure you had fun but fighting servers with significantly larger forces can’t have been all you had hoped for. We fought VS for 16 weeks straight so I do have some idea of what you are getting at :P

I wish all the silver league servers the best of luck with the forthcoming league, and hope to have a god time fighting against you all

Where did I say we didn’t try? The guilds on Deso wouldn’t stand for that and neither would I, we were still fighting, hence why it took months to drop, however the leaders all knew with the loss of several guilds dropping was inevitable.

I also think you’ll find if you actually bothered reading what I posted, instead of just kittening about how it’s a load of crap, that you would see I said several times it is not just a Deso problem with PvE’ers.

Terrorsquad.2349:

I don’t mind Deso “tanked” in Silver league so they won’t get roflstomped..
Though, like I said in many other threads, it’s a selfish act since you’re putting a SIlver League’d server into Gold.

Anyway,

I can’t nor will I try to argue that point, since if.. and I stress IF our PvE players join WvW in numbers it would be ‘unfair’ on others.. no arguement.

However, we don’t make decisions based on what if’s.. we look at what actual numbers we can regularly put out, and base our decisions on that. Of course numbers fluctuate, due to a number of things, some in our control, some not. I can certainly promise you Deso is not as big in WvW as you seem to think.

Not really, based purely on WvW numbers we would probably struggle to place in the top half of silver, it all depends on the PvE’ers, and that is the same for any server.

If you really think it’s crap come to deso for a week and see for yourself. The WvW alliance we have acts in the best interests of the W v W people.. not catering for the PvE people that pop in now and again, and based on the numbers we have EXCLUDING PVE’ER’s, we would struggle to field any competive force outside primetime.

I don’t have to explain Deso politics or situation to you, if you don’t believe the many posts all saying the same thing from many long standing Deso players and leaders that is your problem not ours, seriously come and see for yourself by actually being ON Deso, not just guesting in some PvE area.. See how many guilds we actually have for WvW, see the amount of players on each map, I dare you.

We play the hand we are dealt as the saying goes, and Deso is in the best place that we could hope for, given the current state of the server. We don’t expect to stomp any server to be hinest, we expect a challenge, and we want it, it is up to you all to bring it

Seriously get over yourselves. I am sick of whining about Deso tanking... I am one of the guild leaders on the wvw alliance and yes, we did plan to drop to silver we planned to drop and have been trying to for months, we don’t have the coverage of the gold league servers and plain and simply don’t want to be stomped for 7 weeks, it would kill off whatever wvw groups there are remaining. We can’t control the more pve orientated players though and of course some will poke their noses in WvW as we are moving into better matchups for us. You could also blame Anet for introducing a friggin living story content into WvW areas, that will drag those players that chase ap’s, so yes at the moment it is quite likely that we are seeing more pve players in wvw than normal. Give it time, let people get these achievements done and we’ll see how we end up. As for all those moaning.. put yourselves in our position, would you really want to fight servers with more WvW poulation than you for 7 weeks.. in matchups you have relatively no chance of competing in, not one of you is on Deso to actually see the overall picture so stop the kittening. Deal with it, simple as that.

I personally look forward to the season start, I want to be fighting guild groups with minimal lag and fewer blobs, can anyone say different? you want to team up against us feel free, we won’t complain, at least not the actual WvW’ers won’t.

As for the comment earlier asking how we kept the true WvW players happy while supposedly ’tanking’.. thats quite simple.. they never left.. those WvW’ers on Deso were in WvW fighting just as they normally do. It’s the PvE’ers that cause the fluctuation in numbers.

No fooling or manipulating going on. Stop thinking we are the same Desolation from months back when we were the stubborn underdog of T1 that refused to give in.

Our coverage is nowhere even close to matching any gold league server.. we lost our main night crew (DVG), we have always had poor morning and daytime coverage, and in the last few months more than half our WvW orientated guilds. Counting up the guilds we have left i can count them pretty much on one hand, don’t believe me? ask Gandara, they would be able to tell you of when at the start of the week they would be ticking 400 or more and were roaming empty maps... as for the sudden change in scores, I honestly have no idea. I don’t play during the day much as I work, but I get up and look down the TS channels and they are all empty or have a few solo people in them, so I am just as surprised as most people to know where this has come from. It may have something to do with Gandara not wanting to go to Gold league, but you’d have to ask them.

Believe me, the WvW guilds of Deso are looking forward to the fights in silver league, we will genuinely struggle against the likes of Gandara and AM. We would be doing well if we ended up in the top half in our current state at the moment, but we shall see.

climbatize.8729:

Cheers to [INVI] for the gvg , was great fun , tense fights we loved it

Hope we can arange something in future again, would be great , you guys are fun to fight.

Thanks for the fights yourself. It was a lot of fun and your thieves were a proper thorn in our side every time. Hopefully we’ll get chance for some payback soon

INVI interested in GvG this week.

Looking for 15v15 maybe 20v20, pretty much any day after Tuesday. Contact me if interested.

INVI event just starting, we’ll face any guild that cares to show up. We won’t however fighting 2-3 guilds at the same time. Wait your turn, there’s plenty of us to go round

As Ajaxx says.. Desolation has lost a number of guilds in the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately this means we don’t have the numbers or coverage to compete with any of the top servers. However.. Desolation still has some guilds putting up a fight and certainly no guild left on Deso will be just throwing in the towel, we are just playing as we always have but the loss of people is showing in our non prime hours. The guilds left will still be able to give you a good fight.

We have no tactic to deliberately drop, we are just moving more towards the right place for our server situation.

Keep on fighting, normal service shall be resumed shortly

Anet never learns from its past mistakes it seems.. free transfer to any server were a bad idea before and guess what..... they are still a bad idea.

sigh…… try and have fun fellow Desolationians

Which guild are you in?? I found the fights quite good tbh. INVI actually do try and run solo, sometimes we have a few TLA with us. Unfortunately we have 20-25 per raid, and SFR guilds in general are larger. CoN should know INVI better than to accuse us of blobbing. You don’t want us to blob don’t give us reason to.. run around as a guild.. only once tonight did I see ECL or CoN running round without holding each others hands.

Replay of 2 weeks ago.. Hve fun everyone and please no whining

Sorry to put this in someone else’s thread but I have also found that my Mini WatchKnight has disappeared. i have the achievement, and it was definately in my collectibles tab before the update, after the latest update it had disappeared. I have checked all my characters just in case.

INVI is made up of members who left IRON before they moved server, we decided to seperate from them several weeks before, nd lets just say things happened so we have no ties or anything else to them. We are in no way the leftovers of IRON.

Just clearing that up

The gang’s back together Let’s party !!!

Enjoy the match up and lets try and keep this thread clean this time

GOOD LUCK ALL AND HAVE FUN.. LETS MAKE IT A GREAT WEEK

looks like any asura to me :P

Good luck to you all and have fun

1. No matter how bad Riverside are... we have fought Vizunah for 16 weeks straight.. if that didn;t break us.. nothing will.

2. We are the original anti zombie apocalypse server.. It’s you who in fact join us.

Lets have fun this week and keep the thread flame free

Thanks to Kodash and Elona Reach for the good fights this week, maybe a few too many carts sometimes but in general, some of the fairest ones we’ve had for a long time. Good luck for next week.

Dragons Tooth ele no2 skill with scepter

Have a good week all

:D

Have a good week all

Please forward me any screenshots or videos taken about this.. ther was one incident i was present for at Bay around the weekend ssort of time, as i was there and knew of the mesmer responsible for the majority of alleged hacks, (I was actually in party with them at the time) I warned my guild if anyone took the portal or condoned the use of glitching they would be instantly guild kicked.

Send me any evidence and I assure you any of my guild members involved will be dealt with.

Interesting to be sure……

jiddo.8041:

You`re tone towards IRON and VotF seems a bit hatefull. Maybe you don`t remember that the only reason Desolation was ever competitive in EU tier 1 was due to IRON.

I have an opinion on that, and I was also one of the IRON guild leaders. I will NOT post it as I have no wish to start a flame war, however...... there were many other guilds on Deso during IRON’s time here, I will just say that you are wrong, simple as that. VoTF I have respect for, I have friends in that guild and they were a great loss to the server. I also see nothing hateful in the post.

Rajel.8432:

Yestarday NoE only did roaming guild, I hope next time to find Desolation guild running separate.

INVI always tries to run seperately. In fact when doing events we will specifically look for a border where we can do this. However, we have 25-30 maximum at an event, other than maybe reset night, and we are constantly being overrun by SFR or Kodash running in groups of several guilds. We have no issue losing a fight, but there is only so much we can take before we just either move border or join up with another guild.

Last reset we had 35 people, and even then we were constantly being blobbed by groups of 50, including mixed guilds. I respect CoN for at least trying to run solo, but I have noticed in the last couple of days even they are now grouping up.

Apparently not.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Update-on-new-matchups/first#post2124865

simple... Valley Keep.. took us an hour to probe, siege it and then ultimately cap it, but.. everyone agreed it ws a very good fight. Why would it take us an hour if we had no oppostion? That being said, very good defence by SFR, you certainly kept us on our toes

JDGE are on Gandara, JuG are about but i believe have low numbers. Unfortunately most guilds left Deso within the last couple of months, all we have left are GoD, INVI, AFTL and a mix of PvE/PvX guilds.

Taking after the US tradition of using the thread title as a question for easier finding of the thread .. here we go.. FINALLY out of T1 (YAYYYY)

Lets have a good matchup this week

Sorry.. hd to post to show off my new sig..

Keep up the good fight ER, and welcome to Zombieland

sendmark.4731:

Lelith.2916:

As for moving with my guild to a lower tier, well thanks but what does that do? Sure fixes our issue temporarily, but just moves it to someone else and affects other people, as well as that, there is such a thing as server loyalty, we started on Deso, we fought on Deso and we will stay on Deso, every member in my guild feels the same.

Big respect to you guys for this attitude and hope changes are made that entice you to come back to GW2.

We never left :P My guys and gals are in there everyday fighting and battling as best they can, trying to find that little thing that wll make it worthwhile. Sure, we are going to drop, we need to drop in order to rebuild and sadly T1 just isn’t the place for that, but no reason we can’t have some fun while doing it.

Another nail in the coffin for GW2, as yet another guild quits. I never really fought WL but I know of them by reputation and saw them in action a few times. You will be sadly missed I am certain.

I agree WvW is ’supposed’ to be about the epic large scale battles like a 3 way garrison or SM fight, unfortunately the engine or hardware/software are not able to handle such battles without deterimental effects to the quality of the gaming experience. Due to this, those same gamers look for enjoyment on a size the system can handle, which is smaller in scale.

Also bear in mind the game’s ’actual’ title.. that being Guild Wars.. is it really that much of a horrible idea that a guild should be able to do things as a guild.

With reference to your point regarding a blob being harder to control than a small trained group.. absolutely, but an army (as you put it) isn’t just a main force.. there are recon elements, special forces groups, all of which play their part. With a blob you basically become.. and apologies to any Chinese people.. like the Chinese during the Korean War.. (also keeping in line with your historical WW2 and Vietnam references) winning by pure numbers, for every one you kill 3,4,5 more pop up in a never ending stream

Lara Croft.5807:

Lag situation is not a T1 problem you face that down to T6 with zergs…

And not to run for No1 in T1 of EU ladder is a good reason to transfer to lower tier…whether they like that idea there is another story
So if you do not want to aim for No1 then discussion becomes obsolete…just hop with your guild to another server and leave the remaining guys with sorting out how to beat VS… again this is still not a reason to blame VS …
And now I stop playing devils advocate… xD

You being from VS and all I guess I know the answer already.. Have you ever played on a lower tier.. say for instance around T5-6?

I have friends on servers in most tiers and what they call a blob is 30 people. Most of the time it is small guild groups as in 10-15 man guild groups going round each doing their own thing.

Night capping is a coverage issue, we can’t help when people can play, we expect it when fighting VS to be honest. We have a small night force sure, but nothing like VS.

As for moving with my guild to a lower tier, well thanks but what does that do? Sure fixes our issue temporarily, but just moves it to someone else and affects other people, as well as that, there is such a thing as server loyalty, we started on Deso, we fought on Deso and we will stay on Deso, every member in my guild feels the same.

DevonCarver.5370:

Lelith.2916:

Thank you the response.

Let me address your concern there. It is not the fact that a server dominates so handily, it is the fact it happens for weeks on end, and the Glicko system you use does not allow for shifts in population like we are seeing happen in T1 fast enough. A simple 1up 1 down system would, I believe suit everyone, in any tier, in any region, and definately avoid any stale matchups as servers would be more mobile.

Without going into specifics as we are still testing out some of the changes, we are looking to address the problems with our implementation of Glicko, especially the fact that matchups are not varying enough to provide accurate ranking data.

Seriously, scrap it... it doesn’t work. League system or 1up 1down will please everyone

Agin.. you fail to grasp the basic principle of what a blob brings with it.. inherited skill lag, how much fun do you have running round spamming 1 all the time.

In smaller groups, sure.. you will have people all over the map, but guess what, smaller groups don’t create lag.. smaller groups also mean you have to be more tactical with the deployment of your forces... ie. do i hit hills with everyone or do i leave half behind in case it gets attacked and go with the rest of the group.. tactics = smaller groups that are more mobile and allows more flexibilty to an overall plan insted of just running round a map clockwise capping everything along the way.

Thank you the response.

Let me address your concern there. It is not the fact that a server dominates so handily, it is the fact it happens for weeks on end, and the Glicko system you use does not allow for shifts in population like we are seeing happen in T1 fast enough. A simple 1up 1 down system would, I believe suit everyone, in any tier, in any region, and definately avoid any stale matchups as servers would be more mobile.

Lara Croft.5807:

Repuran.1859:

Lara Croft.5807:

Repuran.1859:

Viz going to take the blame for the death of EU T1 yet?

...or are the opponents to take the blame of not being strong enough, maybe?

God knows.... best would be to find a solution, not to blame, no?

Not at all, in peak times weekends/6-9pm Vizu are usually behind Deso or SFR but then you come back in the morning and Vizu have almost every tower/keep it’s a EU server so why do you have nightcappers which outnumber SFR and Deso night time players combined...

Vizu also create lag in almost every battle they enter these days its just pathetic.

Well let me be more precise then... why do opponents not have recruited enough nightshifts to defend/attack Vizunah better?

We have to be up for work, family etc.. and no.. that is not meaning VS players don’t have these concerns... But more importantly, Deso plays to have fun, no one wants to stay on at night. Personally i have been doing 6pm-3-5am shifts for the last few months, and it just takes it out of people.. This leaves the only option left which is try and bring NA guilds onto the server to have some presence at night, and everytime that has happened we get the usual VS moaning about it. Now with the current state of T1 no guild.. NOT A SINGLE ONE ANYWHERE, will come to T1. VS is a product of it’s own success. By being so unwilling to compromise, so unwilling to even listen to the other 26 servers in this region, you have turned yourselves into server that is undoubtedly the best at winning, but what has it got you.. a tier that no one wants to even play in, and although I would never accuse you of destroying this game singlehandedly, you certainly have not helped it in any way, shape, or form.