Guild Wars 2

No, you will not get the upgrade for free. Get over it. Prices on things change with time. It’s normal…

No, you will not get the upgrade for free. Get over it. Prices on things change with time. It’s normal…

Same problem.

42:6:3:2060

Funny how Arenanet prides itself in making a game which you don’t have to group up in ever, but yet they make events that forces you to…

If you loose money by doing WvW, you should prob consider doing something else…

LOL, complaining at people defending the objectives in a wargame.

And yeah Scribbles, it’s most likely a thief wanting cheap kills, like in all other MMOs with PvP.

If anything, make it so dying is even harsher so people think a bit more before they rush in like a headless chicken.

At the same time, they should fix so you cant cast AEs on the people defending on the walls, since that is more or less the same mechanics…

Yet again, be carefull what you wish for…

As it is now, only damage counts towards any kind of progression, like kills and events, and this is working very bad.

I know you want to remove the holy trinity, but why make it possible for people to play healers then punish them for it?

You said over and over “play the way you like”, so please fix the game so people actually can do that.

In it’s current state and based on what the devs have said about the future, this game is in no way any WoW killer.

To be honest, it’s 2 different games. GW2 is about the journey. WoW is about the endgame, which GW2 kinda lacks…

But who knows what they will do in a year or two, but they need to do something or they will see a mass exodus in a few months. (Wonder how many that left already…)

And yet NO other class NEEDS you to use everything they have to be playable.

And if they do use them, they outperform Elementalist.

So no, you are just using the attunements as an excuse when the fact still is that Elementlists is NOT balanced.

Vistal.2906:

This Aoeing and using catapults to blast people off doors needs to quit. Its a grafix Issue that people exploit. they set up Catapults and Blaistas on a keep door inside get LOS with their char and use that to keep people off when the balista and catapult shoots at nothing. This is why there is arrow carts for indirect LOS in keeps.

Funny how you DON’T mention the AE that the attackers are doing, making it more or less impossible for the defenders to repair the door.

Be careful what you wish for…

If you paid attention you would realise that I was answering Albane who asked how often our heals cause a loot bag to drop.

Try to read before you answer next time.

Albane.8367:

Selix.5670:

We have an entire element devoted to healing and water combo fields. Spec into a little healing power and profit.

Out of curiosity, how often do your heals cause a loot bag to drop in WvW? I love to support my world, but it seems to be costing me badges.

It doesn’t. Healing don’t generate any kind of contribution towards kills and/or events.

LOL, love how you say that Elementalists are fine, but Warriors rock the crap out of the Mentalist in SPvP.

If Elementalists are “broken” in SPvP then they are broken elsewhere aswell… You just don’t seem to notice it…

Gotta love a brag thread like this. Everyone knows why Blacktide has high scores. What they lack in skill they make up for by tossing people/money at the problem, along with the timezone issue.

And people that consider servers capping at evening and servers capping at night/morning to be the same thing fail to understand how the clock and the point system works.

Deboog.1847:

4. No need to pay for siege upgrades, or anything that will help you keep point! You WANT the enemy to take points so you can take them back!

This mentality is what killed Warhammer…

I love how everyone wants to solve all problem with forcing us to spec into a turtle.

Why can’t you people see how that is an issue?

If a game with this much PvP, it’s never stupid to compare classes…

It’s not about being able to counter a warrior. Anyone can counter anyone if prepared and played right.

It’s about balance and the reasoning behind warriors getting twice our hps.

Comparing a Warrior glass cannon to a Elementalist Turtle/Healing machine is not fair either. What if the Warrior turtled aswell? Bye bye Elementalist…

Some of you are really missing the issue if you think that forcing us to be in turtle spec with turtle gear should be needed to beat other classes in their glass cannon specs..

But it’s not like Warriors are low damage, not compared to us atleast.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Health

This feels very unbalanced to me and I don’t understand the reasoning from the weird class balance when it comes to health.

wertyuio.8630:

yep.
there’s also no PVE set that grants power, toughness, and vitality. (unfortunately)

Grats on not making any research before making a fool out of yourself with that statement.

Check Karma vendors in Orr Temple events and some Dungeon Vendors. And last you can check the WvW vendors in the WvW zones that sell that gear for Karma.

But 3 completely different sources is almost nothing…

If you want real tanky gear, go for pow/vit/tough.

No, it’s not relevant. As long as you contribute with healing and/or buffs, they should count towards progession in events and kills. It should not be limited to damage. It’s all a part of the actual contribution, and hence should be part of the mechanical contribution.

There is no reason for it to be like it is now. Except if they don’t want people to teamplay that is…

Using a invisible bag (which I am, several) is not a sollution. The main issue here is going from dual wield to a 2hd weapon, which makes one weapon end up in your normal bag.

This change would make the Elementalist more fun to play without messing with any kind of balance…

I don’t know what you guys are on. I told you I do use other skills/combos.

But either way it doesn’t matter since it’s not even relevant to the topic. The issue here is to get healing to be values as participation in events and killing, not to discuss the different ways you can play your healer.

I use all combos that are available to me, and even after all that #1 Water on Staff is also healing, and without cooldown.

There is no “free” time where I don’t focus on getting my team/group healed.

The time you are talking about doesn’t exist. Not for me anyway.

I don’t understand the question, since there is no “between cooldowns”.

Galdethriel, then you never tried it…

It’s ok to have to swap weapons out of combat, but it being an inventory issue is not ok…

EDIT: Title got messed up. Main question was why can we focus on healing when we get nothing for it?

I know that this game tries to get rid of the “holy trinity”, but either way, there still are ways to become both a tank or a healer. And when it comes to healing us Elementalists are especially strong at that, but still it does NOT count as contribution.

I just played for 2 hrs as a healer specced Elementalist in WvW trying to do what was “best” for my server. And sure, we had a lot of progress that would most likely have not been possible without my support!

But still. I got like 5 badges over a constant fighting for 2 hrs. And more or less any “ticks” from attacking or defending anything.

Really. Is this how you want it? Trying to remove the holy trinity by punishing them for their chosen playstyle, even thou you made that playstyle available?!?!

Most Elementalists have never seriously played another class… So they don’t know what’s really going on.

My original post got deleted because I “demanded” something, so here is my new post where I humbly ask that we please get something. The original is quoted below.

As title suggests, this would help Elementalists, without making us “overpowered”.
I switch between S/D and Staff alot, but always out of combat, since that is the only way to do it, and I would love for a feature that allowed us to do this without having to mess around in our inventory. (dualwield -> 2hd = “good” weapon at the top of the bags)

I added the word “please” in the topic, and I hope it’s enough to not get it removed for “Threads that make demands are not allowed. Please refrain from such posts in the future. You’re welcome to make a thread in the Suggestions forum.”

Dead elementalists do poor damage…

Laivine.9308:

Of course you wouldn’t! LMAO!

Not sure why you think its funny that you dont understand what I am talking about, but each to his/her own.

Or perhaps you just got upset that you didn’t get everything you wanted handed to you on a silver platter?

If you cant even be bothered to search for the information, then you don’t really deserve it.

And I’m gonna leave you to whatever you choose to do…

Aiglos.2907:

Yay I can quote again

Fair enough. Although hopefully you can still elaborate on errm this:

“Also, it’s not really an issue, since you can get around it by using the tools at your disposal. I can get around in places where others classes cant, including from high heights.”

Would be interesting to learn some tips I think

Quoting on this forum is really weird, I don’t understand when it works and when it doesn’t either…

But it seems something might have changed with last patch, I’m not being able to avoid falling damage in the same ways anymore, but I am currently ingame testing, so will see, but looks like some things changed anyway, which in turn made skills like Lightning Flash less interesting to have.

Laivine.9308:

Can you enlighten us please? Apparently you are so smart and we are the fools as you said! You can play an ele and we cannot. Can you tell us the trick how you do it? Traits, gears, runes, build? Or you are to selfish to share?

Please show us the right way to do it! Please??

Pretty sure you can find more or less everything on this forum, including everything I’ve talked about. Eitherway I never make any “walkthrus” on how to do things, I just hint and hope that people manage to figure things out themselves.

But the fact is that most people don’t seem to grasp how GW2 really works. Like how most don’t know how to maximise a staff build due with massive amounts of combos.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Combo

Or how casting really works and that skills like Lightning #1 on scepter continues to channel even thou you cast Lightning #2 and/or #3 during it.

When people start to consider these things they will see alot of new posibilities opening up, they just need to get rid of the old MMO thinking that exists from games like WoW.

Aiglos.2907:

I mean if that was the case, you realise there’s a difference in having to use a utility slot to do what the other classes achieve through traits.

Not really, it’s all part of ones “spec”.

STRanger.5120:

To Luterin.9876:
You mean by the CE + lightning flash combo?
Guess what? Other classes usually don´t need to use one of theirs very good survival/mobility skills to land a dmg :-)

That’s not really the issue. The issue is what we can do and what we cant do, and too many people say that elementalists can’t do alot of things, that they actually can do if played/specced/geared right…

332hrs 36minutes right now on my Ele, and still playing…

kripp keeper.1247:

Second, you have no idea if its my fault or not. I believe you made a comment about another poster “making a fool of himself”, how about you don’t do that.

I didn’t say our attacks never hit. I said they are easy to avoid. Even if we root a player they can break out of it and just walk away. I have to cast for 5 seconds to get churning earth off. As an elementalist that is a long time to stand still and stay alive.

This tells me you are not playing an elementalist to its fullest potential. And yes, it is your fault when the damage doesn’t hit, but the information you provide explains why. You just haven’t seen the potential of everything.

I can get a churning earth off on my chosen targets more or less every time, without risk for my life, interruption or them avoiding it. Solo.

Fishbait.6723:

There`s a distance bar? Huh, never knew.

As an Ele` I`m always casting one or twelve sparkles, we`re squishie enough without not trying to hit things

Chain Lightning has no splash damage, fireball hits further because it does.

As I said, splash damage and improved AE radius goes a LONG way with fireball.

And I’m just curious, did you actually try to hit him yourself with a fireball, or did you just watch the red distance bar under the spell to decide what you can or can’t do?

kripp keeper.1247:

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The problem is trying to get people to stand still in a meteor shower or churning earth.

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Currently all of our damage means nothing when our big damage skills are so easily avoided.

It’s you that let the players avoid the spell. Think outside of the box…

Overall, the biggest problem with elementalists is that people don’t understand how to play them. Or rather, they don’t understand how to play GW2.

Laivine.9308:

WvW against probably a lvl 10 player, isn’t the best proof. Sorry.

Next time take a screenshot of the damage you took before you faceplant the ground by a lvl 80 theif. LMAO

Someone said the numbers wasn’t possible, this is proof that they are. That’s all.

I never said anything about the state of the elementalist nor did I ever try to pretend that we wont get kitten by a thief that knows what he is doing.

So perhaps think a second and get your facts straight before you make a fool out of yourself next time.

Poplik.8697:

why is it intended? Is there some crazy overpowered scenario where ele would be too strong by having this?

And again I’ll answer with, not everyone is supposed to have everything.

Also, it’s not really an issue, since you can get around it by using the tools at your disposal.

I can get around in places where others classes cant, including from high heights.

Vayra.3290:

Yes, only 7 out of 8 classes are supposed to have fall damage reduction. . .

This is a rather glaring oversight by ANet.

I don’t think it is. I think it’s intended, and personally I’ve never had an issue with it.