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threads gonna be locked soon they stated this forum is not a grey market
i only came here since the Ops name is “Mustaine” one of the best metal musicians to ever live
10 levels for around 1g 30s and like 3k karma i adore cooking
meh its a okay vid but its just a GC nuking other GC and a bunch of newbs by the way some of them react if any GC thief/ele/mes got the first attacks you would be dead and like someone mentioned all 1v1s no skirmishes but anyway its nice to see someone using Sx2
why so much hate for the Jps they are fun and easy
Permanent swiftness? I don’t mind…
If eles and engis can have it so should we
No devs let the whiners and cryers leave they damage games by wanting them “Balanced” around themselves let them leave so we may enjoy peace on the forums BEGONE Stuglyfe return to the MMO from which you came from
i reckon we should be able to steal a portal from you that would be entertaining
Thiefs sig should give it a passive 35% you know i thought were meant to be agile
you dont get fight able permastealth ie a gc attacking you while completely stealthed thats just what people like to whine about, if you mean the “kittenurnevatakethissupplypointlewl” build then its just D/P hsing thru smoke field and using ur stealth moves when u need to
There is a holy trinity in this game any who doesn’t think so hasn’t ran alot of dungeons sure you can do dungeons as just Full dps but when you get a Tank guard, Support ele and then the dps your see it go alot smoother
alot of people have stated that if you want 30fps min you need to have a 3rd gen intel OCed to around 4.5 or higher, if i were you guys i wouldn’t expect a change to the coding anytime soon
We have had an update recently on this. They are working feverishly on performance/culling, there is a group, it’s a major redo and in their words these guys are “Rock Stars” who are doing this. There is no eta, but it’s being addressed, they don’t know what else to say to us above that.
the OP is on about why he is getting low FPS with his rig when he shouldn’t be im letting him know, Performance/Culling are two different things i can imagine the culling to be fixed since it will stop alot of thief cry threads but i wouldn’t hold your breath for the coding to get a serious redo any time soon
Nah that’s more LARPer stuff. Its bad form to post skills and gear in an non intelligible way. DnD can and will have people that do that too.
we all know you do this Yumiko on a Thursday your not fooling anyone =)
This what i imagine people who RP do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw
Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!
But i agree they should make a official RP server for people who do it
tbh the whole MF thing is kinda funny id rather they leave MF and just add a preview option for armor, MF is just a thing for bad players to blame so they don’t have to hurt their precious egos and the “Confessions of a MF leecher” kinda made me laugh how do we know its not someone who hates MF and has just made a post claiming to be a MFer? i run MF alot in dungeons with my guild and i certainly do not get a extra 60% loot over them. Id take a Competent MFer over some newb who runs full zerker gear anyday
alot of people have stated that if you want 30fps min you need to have a 3rd gen intel OCed to around 4.5 or higher, if i were you guys i wouldn’t expect a change to the coding anytime soon
Wow 30 pages of tear stained texted thats quite alot skimming through it i notice a trend of people who want the thief nerfed so they can just face roll it i take it alot of you people played Frost mages in WoW, Like its been stated culling is the issues and when it gets fixed im sure alot of this qq will die down there is a reason you do not see any Spvp threads crying how the thief is instagibbing teams and killing bunkers in 2secs untop of level/gear differences it creates a pretty big gap.
But anyway i believe the D/D setup does need to be toned down a bit BS could be dropped by 15% damage BUT but you have to give something to the thief such as giving them a extra 2k Vit and better armor/toughness and fixing the lackluster weapons and traits.
But the vast majority of this is mindless crying i challenge all the people saying thief are godmode to add me level a thief then move to a WvW server im against im on Underworld then were find a nice quite spot ill bring my Engi/thief/mesmer/ranger/ele/warr and guard then we can do 1v1s on all my alts and im pretty sure your find out that Godmode thief doesn’t exist when you face half decent people.
and to all the other thieves no need to worry i think its pretty clear Anet have stopped listening to the vocal minority since we got a buff last patch im expecting were get some more fixes this coming jan/feb patch
no it takes around 1-2 secs if hardly ever takes 3 secs at the end of the day the problem lies with culling not the thief if you cant cope with it stick with the Zerg
Culling is the is the issue basically after he comes out of stealth he still has not been rendered meaning you cant see him, if your not level 80 and not in full exos your gonna get beaten just like every other class will do to you but if your 80 with full exo dont be a glass cannon ie 30/30/0/0/20 with full zerker gear as your last aslong as a virgin(not very long =]) Thieves are not a problem in Spvp as everyone is the same level with same gear, easy way to counter your average D/D gc use P/V/T imo best gear there is use hard CC on thief and learn to dodge his CnD if you do all this right your have a dead thief if he uses Shadow refuge to hide just aoe it and laugh evilly as you kill him its what i like to do =)
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Choose next Destiny’s Edge member?
Can’t escape!
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To be honest, this is what the dragons should be doing now; attacking random outposts and such, with the fail state being you need to repair the place.
Rytlock uses Brag!
It wasn’t effective!
Dragon uses Catnip!
Its Super effective!
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nope leave it as gold its perfectly fine that way, by the time you go to Orr and farm all that karma i have no doubt you would has amassed the gold needed to buy the set your average player can make 3g/p so lets say you do 2 hours of money making that’s 6g everyday 6gx7 thats 42g every week so in 3 weeks your have a full set that seems very reasonable for what your getting.
cooking is fine 1g 30s for 10 levels? its a great deal
It’s not as bad as paying $150.00 for CE of SW:ToR, and subscribing for 3 months, only to have the game given away for free, and having F2P players get treated better than you because they spent $4.00 at the cartel. If you play any game long enough, this is bound to happen. I remember paying $60 for Diablo 3, and my friend buying it at Toys R Us for $10 a few months later. lol!
the fault is with those 2 horrible games =) you should have never bought Tortanic
my p/d thief has never encountered a class including guardian that i felt i could not defeat.
Condi builds are ment to beat bunkers
Burst beats condi
Condi beats bunker
Bunker beats burst
Well I have a thief and a guardian.
As a guardian:
I can withstand burst thieves and then just faceroll them with my greatsword and burning damage.
I’ll have trouble catching them though, if they start fleeing. If i’m not using my meditations/gap closers then there’s no way I can catch them. Guardians are terrible at long range.As a thief:
Yeah guardians are the hardest for me. I can only beat tanky guardians if I catch them by surprise or if I use my pocket thieves. Venoms some times work but you have to watch out for that greatsword.@ Mechanix. I hear ya man , the fight gets pretty long and nobody dies. This happens on both classes.
must have been about a week ago in encountered a charr guard bunker straight away i started attacking him first thing he does is run, im not lying i must have chased this guy half way over the Borderlands map starting to strip away at his hp and around after 10mins of chasing i finally kill him after laughing the first that came to my mind was why he didn’t just turn around and start attacking me
All I got have to say to the dev team is PLEASE do not give in to all the people crying for nerfs on thieves.
I played a thief and I want them to be nerfed. Thieves are killing this game.
do we hit hard?yes.
is it unavoidable?no.
no need to nerf.
Do you hit hard? Yes.
Is it unavoidable? No.
Can you escape if you were doing bad and get away with it, only to return 4 seconds later? Yes.
2:20 seconds for those who just wish to skip ahead.
I just agree to disagree :PLink to a video where nobody is focusing on the thief… :/
exactly.
they were all pretty much standing still, not situationally aware at all, and no conditions on the thief? that video proves that people don’t know how to play against thieves.
I dont think you understand the mentality of players.
Why fight something who will stealth get away and come back when its full of health?
No point, im sure most people dont even bother with it.
tbh the thief in that vid is pretty skillful but anyway on the topic of hand that build doesn’t incorporate the 3sec gc nuke tactic that you see so there is no heavy damage the people he comes up against are pretty unskilled if you ever come against a D/P thief apply hard cc and dots hell any thief you come against do that since that is how you counter a thief and the pretty much any thief who commits to killing you buy using his CDs/inti wont get away the ones that will attack/hide rinse repeat are not attempting to kill you they are only attempting to hinder you enough so back up comes and finishes you off i do that method in WvW sometimes. if you tell me what class you play ill gladly give you some advice on how you can counter a thief
depends if he was a bunker he would have pretty much ate up the thief burst, guard bunkers are extremely strong normally if i ever just come up against one ill do my combo see how they handle it if they panic i press the attack if they know how to handle a GC ill just leave em alone im no ta fan of a 10min battle
if by RS you mean runescape that game died of around 2006, i would not say gw2 is the top mmo by a longshot its a good game but it has alot of wasted potential many people seem to forget its been out for 4months plus its coming up to the Christmas period where there wont be so much going on but hey its a B2P so you can just simply leave the game for a month or two and come back and every game has people who complain everyone does it its just if they do it constructively or just cry about take a look at the thief sub forum to see what i mean by crying but if the game does fail well for £50 ive had a round 500 hours of entertainment from it you cant really complain about that at all.
But back on topic id like to see the P/P setup get a massive buff since we know it needs it the Auto attack is just soo weak and don’t get me started on unload the sword also needs a buff aswell regarding PW and flanking strike if you managed to get those done im sure you see alot more happy thieves and on top of that alot more people using different builds in pve since atm in dungeons the standard thief will run D/D SB since the rest of our weapon sets are pretty lackluster
they just need to majorly buff pistol traits
“So I figured since they made the achievement actually possible without stumbling across the rare group of elite players” ha this made me laugh my 2nd game of toy poc i joined i took control of the group and gave orders we got the achievement the proper way not the whiners way and we were certainly not a group of elites nothing hard about building walls round dollys,laying down catas/balistas and upgrading em and have 3 people stay with rifles tbh i felt they could have made toypoc let u lose maybe 2 dollys maybe… but to answer your question i play toypoc quite alot i like the game mode and im always finding people to do it with
Thief just mash one button over and over and you win.
honestly please tell me what that buttons is im really dieing to know?
but anyway if you want a strong pver go warr/guard they are top atm
Want to WvW? go Thief or D/D ele best roamers and gankers although D/D ele requires alot more awareness then the thief it is better the thief is great to gear Glass cannon and just wreck newbs over and over and over and over and over again and have them come on the forums and cry about it nothing more tasty then scrubs tears mmmm
tbh i gave up reporting bots i must have reported a hunter farming skelks at South shun every day for about 2 weeks and having every near him report him yet hes still there farming for about 18hours a day but hey i figured why should i help anet bots increase the supply of items into the system meaning cheaper prices for me like someone said if DR is still present in the game don’t expect any help
Schatzy: Sir I demand an apology and my money back this is Blasphemy
Shopkeeper: Eeer sorry sir what can i help you with?
Schatzy: I bought these pair of shoes 3months ago! okay 3 months ago and now when i return to your shop your selling the exact same shoes for £20 cheaper HOW DARE YOU, you might aswell flip me off while your at it.
Shopkeeper: Well im sorry sir but were having a sale since its near the holidays we want to encourage people to buy our product by lowering the price its basic economics sir.
Schatzy: Dont you give me that " its basic economics sir." Bs i demand you reinstate my money back for the shoes and you change the price back to its original cost NOW!.
Thats how i imagine you would react to that situation
and the moral of the story is: that’s basic economics!
Lol i could not help myself not to post that
tbh the economy is on the mend t6/t5 mats are dropping in price quite alot Vial of powerful blood is around 14s i use to sell em at 28s and thru this exos are starting to drop zerker exos were around 4g 80s they are now around 3g 50s and unid dyes are around 9s comaired to when they were peaking at 15s the only thing i hate about the TP is the 5% non refundable tax for listing is such a stupid feature have you ever put a item up for around 20g? just to have 10 other people put the same item up for 1c less 10 times in a row its extremely frustrating and what makes this worse is THAT THERE IS NO TRADE OPTION!!!! WHY NO TRADE OPTION ANET if they made it so the 5% listing fee was refundable that would honestly make so many people happy, but they would need to add a feature that would stop people using the TP as there bank by simply adding a feature that does not let you put X amount of items up at the same time this would also stop people from sabotaging the supply/demand on certain items like what w saw with t5/t6 mats
Warr/guard are both very easy and OP you cant really go wrong with them
“@OP In order to deal damage to you we have to hit you – hitting you from stealth gives us reveal debuff unless we wait for the stealth to fall off – in which case we’re not doing our big stealth openers on you.
This means you have time to react to our actions. If we re- stealth, either prepare to dodge or block the attack coming or get ready to drop a stun/daze/knock down/ knock back."
Read that above
“With culling bugs you can get the same permastealth benefits and higher dps. that’s a balance issue. you can’t deny the facts. This gentleman shows them here, and the culling bug makes it even easier. I am sorry but facts are facts. How about the thief apologists trying to get the game balanced in the right way so that your class isn’t ruined vs. denying facts? I’d like to see the class balanced not ruined.”
The guy shows how you can get perma stealth but without attacking, ATTACKING PUTS A 3SEC DEBUFF ON YOU K you cannot stealth with that debuff maybe your understand that culling does notlast for 3secs extra unless maybe your in a zerg if your in a zerg you have got alot more worries than a GC thief “I am sorry but facts are facts” idd they are so understand that what your saying is impossible and what im saying is right.
“How about the thief apologists trying to get the game balanced in the right way so that your class isn’t ruined vs. denying facts? I’d like to see the class balanced not ruined”. if anything it should be newbs like you that come and cry on forums that get classes heavily nerfed look at the Ia/smuggler from TOR and how the QQ ruined that class thats what gonna happen to the thief i put in too much effort on my thief to see it be ruined by players who wont go to the effort of reading up and bettering themselves instead come and cry and yet again you have ignored my previous post when you gonna reply to the things you have said and justify them instead of just spewing a bunch of random kitten everywhere like i said your just another L2P issue and guess what last patch the theif got a buff! it wasnt a massive buff still hasnt fixed our awful weapon sets but hey its buff it gives me hope that anet is not caving in to people crying on the forums and ruin the balance and i wont be replying to you anymore since there is no point id have a better conversation talking to one of my cats then you GL to you in the future and i really hope i run into you in WvW.
Ugh, I knew this would happen. You guys are missing the point, so I’ll have to explain everything else since you talk about everything but the intended situation.
- I said no cry intended. I’ve never lost a 1v1 fight against a thief until now. Altho this wasn’t much of a fight. I just wanted to know what happened here, because this damage was way too suspicious to me. I’m not asking for tutorials or anything too.
- That ranger. He was low lvl, I used every greatsword skills. It’s normal to a guardian take someone down with that. He was distracted and took all the skill. It’s a balanced weapon since you can kite pretty well (it’s slow attack move, slow spinning but strong dmg). STILL, this wasn’t the point. He was low lvl anyway.
- I’m not glassy. It’s like you didn’t read my stats. All I’m missing is having vit/tough on my armor instead of precision/tough. Everything else, including runes and trinkets are vit/tough.
- I didn’t see the thief, still not the point. I know I was heading to a zerg group and I was probably going to die, just trying to take one with me, or distract them. Still not the point.
- @Solori.6025 – How would I react fast on this situation? I used Save Yourselves, and I also blocked one attack. I tried to heal. It’s all there in slowmotion.
The problem here, is no matter what. I could be distracted, I could be aware on a 1v1 situation, I could be in a group or not. There was nothing to do here. He just teleported and killed me in 1 second with NO CHANCE of doing anything.
What? If I was able to tank that, everything else he’d do would be low damage? I don’t think so. If with all my defense traits, a class can still 3 hit kill. I don’t think this is right.
I knew this was gonna happen
“I didn’t see the thief, still not the point.” yes it is the point i saw the thief in the video so did many others the fact you ignored him is why you died if you would have pressed the attack against him he would have gone down like that ranger or even quicker Simple at the end of the day you out positioned yourself and ignored a GC that’s your fault.
“I’ve never lost a 1v1 fight against a thief until now. Altho this wasn’t much of a fight. I just wanted to know what happened here, because this damage was way too suspicious to me. I’m not asking for tutorials or anything too.” how you ignored the thief and went for the rangers tells me you have not had alot of 1v1s with thiefs or in general and you would know the damage they or any GC is capable of, i also like how you go into major defence mode trying to justify your 3sec on the ranger.
. I’m not asking for tutorials or anything too.
We gave you a pretty indepth guide to how that happened yet you get upset that we put effort in to help you against that would you have preferred it if we said “Lol L2P Newb”? i dont know why i bother to help people
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@Mechanix; with all due respect you can actually perma stealth. I saw this thread and went away to test it out. It is fairly easy to maintain as long as you have a mix of certain traits.
Ideally you need a minimum of 20pts in shadow arts to get the following:
Adept trait ( I ) Master of Deception – 20% reduction on deception skills CD
Adept trait ( V ) Infusion of Shadow – 2 intiative on skills that stealth you15pt minor trait – Meld with shadows – stealth lasts 1 sec longer
Utility skills:
Blinding Powder – (traited – 32 sec CD )
Shadow Refuge – ( traited – 48 sec CD )
Hide in Shadows – 30 sec CDWith D/P weapon setup you do the following;
- blinding powder
- heartseeker x3 – through Smoke field
from here if you have the initiative to do it again then go for it, you’ll actually get the 2 initiative from comboing heartseeker and blinding powder each time you pass through – giving you initiatve for the 2 additional heartseekers through the first field.
this should give about 9 secs of stealth.
you use that to wait out intitative regen and if you’ve enough Initiative you do it again.
if youre missing just a few you can pop blinding powder for 3 more secs to wait out for more intitative.when youre back to full intiatiuve you blinding powder heartseeker x3 again until intiative runs out.
at this point either or both Hide in shadows and blinding powder will be on CD so you can use shadow refuge to regen stealth and initiative.
Shadow refuge actually provides alot more intiative regen than just the 2 as each 3 second tick in the Shadow refuge field counts as a stealth action so you’ll regen intiative really really quickly.
you can then heartseeker x3 through blinding powder on pistol again – by this time hide in shadows and blinding powder are off CD and you keep going.
you can also use smoke screen as an additional utility to make it even easier to stay perma stealth but i like running signet of shadows – a good solid blind and move increase is awesome.
If the 50% move speed in stealth ever worked right – i’d move my 10pts in deadly arts to acrobatics for kittens and giggles.
I’m sure there must be a few more ways to keep going – you could always get Hidden thief – but i prefer the stealth regen.
BIG BUT! -
whilst this is fun to see how long you can keep it up – in combat it is impractical. You want to deal damage and keep up pressure.
Giving your opponent breathing space is just asking for 2-3 of his mates to come along and help the player you’re playing against shank you whilst you’re prancing around being clever.
As for the burst – you can still get a reasonable 6K -7K backstab out of a build even if you’ve got 30 pts in Shadow arts and only 10 pts in deadly arts.
great thing about D/P is you can blind an opponent like a mad man giving alot of survivability without having to stack defensive stats to a level that’s harmful to your damage output.
@OP In order to deal damage to you we have to hit you – hitting you from stealth gives us reveal debuff unless we wait for the stealth to fall off – in which case we’re not doing our big stealth openers on you.
This means you have time to react to our actions. If we re- stealth, either prepare to dodge or block the attack coming or get ready to drop a stun/daze/knock down/ knock back.
thats 6 options right there -
if you got spanked hard from stealth chances are the thief used a stealth opener which means you have 3 seconds to do something before the thief can re stealth because of reveal.
3 seconds is a good amount of time to do one of those 6 things.
TL;DR
We thieves can perma stealth, it’s fun to see how long you can keep it up for before you get bored – however it’s not worth it as you kinda want to deal butt loads of damage rather than hide forever and draw out a fight.
yes i know you can maintain perma stealth but he seems to think you can attack and still maintain permastealth he doesn’t seem to understand that big part of it
I didn’t ignore anything. Permastealth due to culling is a reality. It’s a bug. They need to fix the culling bug or adjust thieves. it’s pretty clear. 24k HP and 1600 toughness, but I guess that’s a glass cannon spec.
You did ignore everything you cannot be stealthed forever go make a thief and please make video of you stealthing for 20mins straight completely unbreakable to a enemy
you didnt even attempt to back up your best damage/escape/mobility simply because you know your wrong like the rest of the thief QQers u all say the same but when what you say is put under scrutiny you cant say anything back.
“it’s pretty clear. 24k HP and 1600 toughness, but I guess that’s a glass cannon spec.” what class are you no point just saying a bunch of stats i can pull around 23k with around 1.2k toughness on a GC warrior
Idd well there you go OP we have gave you advice on how you can be more prepared against a GC thief
1 Never ignore them that is the worst thing you can do, you do not ignore glass cannons
2 Do not let yourself get caught at serve disadvantage you should have called for help before you engaged that ranger
3 You have to act fast since a glass cannon will kill you quickly you have to be able to react quickly or you will simply end up dead this is the main reason why glass cannons are so effective against people who do not know how to counter them and why the forums is filled with tear stained posts
Well I simply advise those who are getting 3 shotted by invisible enemies to raise your concerns to anet. It’s all we can do.
yea just ignore what i wrote there simply because you cant say anything against it
Well I simply advise those who are getting 3 shotted by invisible enemies to keep crying to anet its all we can do" is much better or maybe
Well I simply advise those who are getting 3 shotted by invisible enemies to ask for advice on forums or look for a guide and ofc stop running a GC spec" but that might be pushing it too far
Hey at least he wasn’t “perma stealth” and tbh that deer did alot of damage but in all honestly that was just a GC thief you would have died anyway since you pretty much charged a zerg but one thing you did wrong was running away from the thief NEVER run away you give him the best chance to Back stab and tbh if you gonna go toughness go full tank since in this game there isnt really a in between
You can run away from us, but always be aware where the thief stealthed and not run towards it like this guardian did.
hang on im a thief player too im not trying to take a shot at the thief he also saw the thief and ignored it and ran straight for the ranger
also id like to add in the space of 3 seconds you took a ranger (sub 80) from 100%-0% hp in tank gear don’t you think that maybe thats pretty high burst considering what your running? ill just leave you with that thought
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Hey at least he wasn’t “perma stealth” and tbh that deer did alot of damage but in all honestly that was just a GC thief you would have died anyway since you pretty much charged a zerg but one thing you did wrong was running away from the thief NEVER run away you give him the best chance to Back stab and tbh if you gonna go toughness go full tank since in this game there isnt really a in between the fact you also saw the thief ignored it and went for the ranger is your downfall if you would have started pummeling the thief im sure it would have happened alot differently.
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id love to see the culling issue fixed just so i can see the new excuse newbs will use against thieves since we have had "Perma stealth thieves " id like to know what the new one will be maybe a "Triple backstab thief" or a "Infin inti thief" but srs id love to see P/P get some love
backstab nerf 30%
Thats fine we also get a extra 3k HP and the original HS damage back sound good yeah? you cant take without giving and tis the season to be giving so ill give you some advice go Google how to counter a GC thief it will help you out alot here is a hint CC
It seems to be there are people who can not fight thieves tat are using the culling to try and get a nerf through on the thieves. There are MANY MANY videos of players killing thieves that have “Perma” stealth, just because you can not does not mean that thieves as a whole need a nerf.
I never said they need a nerf as a whole. EIther the culling bug needs to be fixed to prevent thieves from getting a huge benefit, stealth needs to get longer cool downs, or thief dps needs to be reduced. Having the highest dps, perma stealth, best mobility and best escape tools all in one class simply isn’t balanced. I know thieves want to dismiss these concerns, but many players are voicing them. Many thieves admit its too much.
Highest Dps? No Perma stealth? well you cant have constant stealth its impossible you can have a very low visible downtime with the P/D build but you have no burst damage. Best escape tools and Mobility? LOL i take it you have never played D/D ele there mobility and escapes are second to none.
“I know thieves want to dismiss these concerns” Yes they do simply because it isnt the truth all it is are newbs getting stomped by glass cannons.
“but many players are voicing them” replace players with newbs and your right you don’t see any high ranking Tpvp players cry about thieves in WvW do you? noooooo and before you say something like Tpvp players dont play WvW im in a guild full of em and yes they do.
“Many thieves admit its too much” Really seems to be alot of thieves in here and they seem to disagree with you or if you mean the guy thats says “Oh hai i leveled a thief and at lv 21 in full toughness/vit i was still oneshotting tanks thieves need nerfs!” well chances are they are not thieves =/
as a thief player with the culling issues i can see against people who DO NOT KNOW how to counter gc thieves it would be a massive issue but that’s up to them to learn i mean you come to the forums why not make a Thread called “Having trouble countering gc thief need advice please” im sure you would get your answer and help other plays who need that advice too.
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