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Idd go Warr/Guard they are the newb friendly champs by newb i mean new players not as a insult whoever said Grenade engi is just trying to troll you but if anything pick a class that you think will suit you not the OP ones
Pfft how about they just add a preview option instead of wasting time removing/reworking a stat a bunch of bad players whine about no doubt if they did do something with MF you people would still find something to whine about.
All that happens is people fail at a dungeon instead of being rational and trying to figure out what happened they blame the MF stat hell they should rename MF to Thief since alot of bad players like to whine about that too and now i wait to see the response i get back from a bunch of disgruntled whiners.
1:Define balanced gear be more specific with what your wearing,Traits and ofc class.
Armor vit/tough, rings pow/crit/pres
I play an elementalist (and have exceptional survivability by any standards. I don’t need to repair armor after dungeons, I make money in WvW and not lose it in armor repairs. Ect.)2:Okay i can say what in around 1/3 of a second so your being killed in under a second okay seems legit. By out of the blue do you mean your in tunnel mode and someone got the drop on you(thats your fault) if not and you didnt see him then thats the culling issue NOT THE THIEF okay anet are aware of this problem and working on it, the only way a thief can retain nearly perma stealth is a P/D thief and they have absolutely no burst at all.
Just left spawn, nobody goes into tunnel vision that early. Thief can teleport quite a distance, and has high movement speed. It might be the culling issue, or it might be the players skill.
3:if a theif kills you in say 5secs which the standard GC does then you are infact in glass cannon mode or your lying/extremely over exaggeration like 95% of all thief QQ threads.
I wasn’t counting the finishing move, that’s kinda “already dead” without teammates around you.
4: you can not play in tunnel vision have a wide spread view you will see a GC thief before he attacks you i always do unless its a P/D theif then quite simply you use condi removers and proceed to CC him and apply Condis/burst damage onto him and he will be dead quite soon.
You seem to be assuming that everyone is playing in tunnel vision just because they’re not constantly spinning around. There are a lot of places where I can, even as an elementalist, run around undetected 15 feet from a group of enemy players. It is sometimes just not possible to spot people fast enough.
Not to mention the culling problem.
So yes it was a learn to play issue or your a liar please choose which one it was and move along, we shouldn’t see you posting anything about how OP thief are any time soon or do what i did and level the class and play it i learnt it strengths and weaknesses and now i beat every D/D gc unless i get culling issues in which case doesn’t bother me since i know anet are on the problem and i play a Engi btw
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“You seem to be assuming that everyone is playing in tunnel vision just because they’re not constantly spinning around.” Thanks for proving my point that your a newb tunnel vision is when you have the camera in default and it follows behind you all’
I wasn’t counting the finishing move, that’s kinda “already dead” without teammates around you.
All you have shown me is GC ganking sub 80s what do you expect will happen, YOUR claiming that YOU a ele with full toughness/vit and a hp pool of 28k get killed in 1.5secs your video proves nothing except you were just saying mindless QQ to make yourself feel better nothing to see here folks just another L2P issue.
In whatever game you play you will always get people that say they can beat any class and l2p lol for them I reply with 5 videos
as a bonus heres a super game breaking Ranger…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imPsk-Q5LqM:)
That just shows the issues some GC thief instagibbing subb i 80s i counted 3 who didn’t even have shoulder items, ganking 80s who were gc thief themselves showing what happens when u get bursted, ganking 80s who were half hp and then just killing people who are 80 but complete newbs like that rifle warrior
I wonder if he will reply back
theirs a reason you don’t see high ranking Tpvpers running around the forums saying “OMG THAT THEIF KILLED ME IN 2SECS AND I WAS FULL TANK!!!11” because they know how to play their class and how to counter the D/D gc thief
Well, it is mostly because damage doesn’t get as out-of-hand in TPvP as it can in WvW. With Ascended gear there is a bigger gap than ever between PvE (WvW) capabilities and S/TPvP capabilities. But, yeah, knowing how to counter helps too.
yes you are right on that one they also Nerf crit damage i believe in Spvp so my point isnt so good but you can at least see the point
We’re talking about a class that can’t be killed if they don’t want to be (yes, X/d elementalist with cantrips is similar), has fantastic mobility which allows it to pick battles, and has huge burst damage.
It’s too much, too focussed in one package.
I do see two different ways to attack the problem, either allow one or two conditions (e.g. burning, cripple) to prevent stealth, or put a 60s cooldown on stealth. At least then a thief would actually have to commit to the fight.
-Jeff
Wow slow down cowboy “We’re talking about a class that can’t be killed if they don’t want to be” well ive certainly died on my thief in WvW and sure has heck have not wanted to die basically you should worded it like this “Were talking about a class that stomps noobs who dont know how to play and makes them come to the forums to cry about it”
“has fantastic mobility which allows it to pick battles, and has huge burst damage.”
im pretty sure every class has a 25% move speed signet or if you mean spamming HS/AOI then you should write after it saying how it cannot deal any damage for around 6secs making it completely vulnerable. “and has huge burst damage” Yes if specced and gear for but you missed out a small feature doing this gives it a very small defense meaning it gets killed extremely fast and oh if you do the old “i cant see it in stealth” you simply apply some CC to thief prior which everyone should be doing and pretty soon your see a dead thief okay
Oh and btw don’t do the little -Jeff thing it makes you look like a obnoxious kitten who thinks very highly about themselves and its even worst when your argument is nothing more than a tear stained lie
-Mechanix <3
Of course you will not complain if you use that “very fair” class, if I make a poll the next month to see if thief is op or not, the “no” will win for sure (obvious, most of the players will be thiefs), then when people get bored out of their minds to play against another thief almost the whole day and when more and more people leave the game they will say that PS2 killed the game, no! darkfall killed the game, no! AC2 killed the game but the truth is this is one of the best games I ever played and several of my friends think the same, but when there is something that really dont make sense then it anoy you, if it happen everyday it disturb you but if it happen after few minutes you join wvwvw then you get frikin mad and do alt+f4 probably to dont log in a long time or probably never again.
Please make more sense and stop this before is too late.
i use about 7 classes i dont use a necro since they are in a bad state, i didn’t say the thief is very fair at all please find were i said that since you quoted it and im pretty sure your find if you make a poll it will go to the Yes side since the amount of people come on here and cry about the thief is very high im pretty sure the thief wont kill the game i think you need to take deep breathes and calm down simply because WvW isn’t GW2 on the whole honestly if anyone needs to make sense its you with that paragraph you just wrote, if you get ganked in WvW by a thief then you should group up or follow the zerg maybe you should take your GC armor off. Your point has raised no argument against my point raised showing that i was right honestly theirs a reason you don’t see high ranking Tpvpers running around the forums saying “OMG THAT THEIF KILLED ME IN 2SECS AND I WAS FULL TANK!!!11” because they know how to play their class and how to counter the D/D gc thief if anything you should go to utube and watch some guides on how to counter the thief im sure it would help you out alot.
I’ve said it before and this is coming from a long time thief. Cloak and Dagger is ridiculously overpowered and the source of this ‘forever stealth’. If Anet put a more solid cool down on it….this wouldn’t happen.
Look at every thief proclaiming their kitten in wvw on youtube…..and you’ll see a guy who hits C&D a lot.
Yes your a longtime thief and your saying CnD grants “forever stealth” so who are you trying to fool again?
CnD uses 6 int if traited it can return 2 stealth but that not your claim its CnD not the traits so that doesn’t get accounted for "Cloak and Dagger is ridiculously overpowered and the source of this ‘forever stealth’. Stealth lasts 3 seconds i regen int to a ratio of 1/1.33secs. To get 6 int it would take me 7.98 seconds to achieve that yet i can only cloak for a grand total of 6 seconds so please explain to me where you have got this theory from. but anyway lets say your claim does work CnDs damage isnt that high so i fail to see how this could be Op if anything its a guy who wants to tease some newbs a simple application of AOE around yourself will have a dead thief in no time, i must say i look forward to your response.
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Lol this guy gets it
Oh yea i forgot to add another argument against that cleaver notion that theifs offer no support “Venom sharing” a 5 second coordinated stun sure isnt gonna be supportive at all
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wow people are stilling crying about the thief all i can say is just go and leave why make a cry thread in the forums i hate to say it but its just another L2P issue like 95% of the thief threads are no doubt u are pre 80s all in GC gear and dont know how to play your class or how to counter a thief so when you die the first thing you do is “OMG that thief stayed in perma stealth and starred at me and one shotted me while doing 8 backflips in one jump then! he punched me thru my computer screen =(” honestly im glad you and your friends left people like you ruin class balance
You leave your spawn.
You have full exotics, balanced gear, (no glass cannon), you’re a squishy class.
Out of the blue you take around 100% your health in damage before you have time to say “what”, and after you’re dead from stealth finish, you finally see the attacker.
Tell me, how is that L2P issue? What were you supposed to do? Randomly dodge all the time after leaving your spawn? Hit thin air with AoE just because you’re not in your immunity zone anymore? Keep hitting 1 while moving?
1:Define balanced gear be more specific with what your wearing,Traits and ofc class.
2:Okay i can say what in around 1/3 of a second so your being killed in under a second okay seems legit. By out of the blue do you mean your in tunnel mode and someone got the drop on you(thats your fault) if not and you didnt see him then thats the culling issue NOT THE THIEF okay anet are aware of this problem and working on it, the only way a thief can retain nearly perma stealth is a P/D thief and they have absolutely no burst at all.
3:if a theif kills you in say 5secs which the standard GC does then you are infact in glass cannon mode or your lying/extremely over exaggeration like 95% of all thief QQ threads.
4: you can not play in tunnel vision have a wide spread view you will see a GC thief before he attacks you i always do unless its a P/D theif then quite simply you use condi removers and proceed to CC him and apply Condis/burst damage onto him and he will be dead quite soon.
So yes it was a learn to play issue or your a liar please choose which one it was and move along, we shouldn’t see you posting anything about how OP thief are any time soon or do what i did and level the class and play it i learnt it strengths and weaknesses and now i beat every D/D gc unless i get culling issues in which case doesn’t bother me since i know anet are on the problem and i play a Engi btw
wow people are stilling crying about the thief all i can say is just go and leave why make a cry thread in the forums i hate to say it but its just another L2P issue like 95% of the thief threads are no doubt u are pre 80s all in GC gear and dont know how to play your class or how to counter a thief so when you die the first thing you do is “OMG that thief stayed in perma stealth and starred at me and one shotted me while doing 8 backflips in one jump then! he punched me thru my computer screen =(” honestly im glad you and your friends left people like you ruin class balance
No I’m on win7 and my temps are fine I’m not pulling something crazy like 100c
i have tried running it the bare basics yet i still get the same result
Basically by the time my pc loads the start area of the jumping puzzle the first snowflake has melted meaning i cant even start it ive tried over 100+ times to do it yet it results in the same thing. I have tryed it while OCing, after restarting PC and with just GW2 the only program running yet it ends in the same thing and i even run the game of a SSD =/
My PC specs
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 × 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
As you can see my PC is more than capable to handle it i don’t get this in any other areas except here so what am i suppose to do?
you can balance a MMO very easily you just have one class with one set of items for each slot so everyone is using the exact same items
mmm where u in some kind of BDSM guild because it really sounds that way
“a pansy theif” I lold so hard well since you have played the most Oped classes why don’t you go check out the thief and the you can go see his mega op damage that kills everything while he stares at them in perma stealth
then it sounds like a good time to level some crafting =)
I really wouldnt mind 2 sigil slots on my 2h weaps. Worth 600 tokens, imo. +5% more crit chance? Or full energy on swap? Yes please. I’d pay it in a heartbeat.
Then Dual wield your forcing yourself to use the 2h not the game simple if your a guard/warr and you wanna play eaze mode GS then thats your fault.
yes but the Coe and Cof tokens let you salvage rares that drop up to 4 ectos each i normaly get 3g as i count the money that i loot from corpses and the bags, 6g is very poor for 2h 30mins work thats in quite rare cases.
Basically to outfit yourself for 130% MF
Buy 5 sup runes of the pirate NOT 6
Buy a sup Mf rune for your other slot
That should be around 55-60% MF that is the biggest cost it should cost around 2g 20s
Youc can buy Green MF trinkets aswell as back for around 35s all together thats around 36%
Then buy a Major sigil of luck for your weapon when fully stacked that 10% around 5s
Then you have your food i normaly use Peach tarts 24% MF and nice and cheap 40c per unit
That will round you off at around 127% MF give or take 7% depending on runes
You can always use a MF banner aswell to gain 137%
So around 2g 65s give or take
Those prices are what they are now while i have typed this =)
and hey if you doubt what i make why don’t you try it out for yourself?
No way it is suppose to be one of the best armor skins in the game i didn’t spend 70g on it just so everyone can run around with it if you want go farm for it its what everyone else did why should it be different for you.
1:Buy Some mf gear get around 130% with just under 3g
2: Farm Southshun skelks for roughly an hour get between 3-8g depends on luck
3: Find a group who speed run Coe path 2,3 and Cof path 1,2 get around 3g just from doing the instances regardless of loot
4: Use tokens to buy lv 80 rares for 30each then salvage for ectocs
5: Gz you have just gained around 11g in around 2h 30ms
6: Repeat steps 2-4 until you have enough gold to buy what you want
7: Send me 15% of you daily G earned cus im awesome
8: Do not make threads like these again
wow sorry i must be talking to 2h users im sorry my idea to make you put in the same amount of effort as people who dual wield scared you ill put this completely crazy idea away so you never have to be reminded =/
no id rather the reward be fair to every player
No id rather it cost half of what it costs a 2h or at least have it around 200 and those sigils you get in the weps are complete trash i always throw em out and put some Power per kills in there =)
It depends are you gonna spend 2 hours a day farming say the skelks or trolls? if not then don’t get any if you are you kit yourself up with around 130% MF in just under 3g i find it helps me make alot more i can normally pull 7g per hour without it i was hitting around 4-5g.
GS are the most popular weapon because everyone plays a Guard/Warr/Mesmer and what do they normally always use? I could complain saying how a GS is 390 tokens and yet a 1h dagger is 300 meaning i have to get 600 tokens to get my weps where someone who uses a 2h doesn’t, buy a cheap rare GS and speed run AC if u have 2 toons over +35 u can get the GS in around 2hours
Id just like to say thank you Anet for the Box i didn’t even send a ticket off saying i had been dced or anything and there the chest was is in my mailbox tbh i was just happy that you guys made the effort to do that regardless of what was in the box keep up the good work!
oh look more cry nerfs about thiefs
“there should be a demand for gems but this is really becoming too expensive to buy with gold” Just what Anet wants how do you think F2P games work?
Dungeons should be fast and hard no longer than 20mins and no shorter than 10mins, the current dungeons need to be tweaked the bosses need to have alot less hp but actually have some tactics instead of “i sit here press one and 5mins later he is dead yay!”
i done it solo its not hard use Speedbuffs if you get hit by the worm there is a 99% chance your gonna die, take it slowly and dodge when you need to
Hey guys lets all stand in a tight spot and let the enemy team AOE us because were a nice Server like that
its called a Megalodon yet its has the skin of a Greatwhite shark just like the bull shark has Plus Megalodon where Apex Creatures and they were big motherkittens with bones they have fount they believe some were as long cruise ships but anyway you defo got trolled =>
Its because they are the hottest ones athletic bodies, big bewbs and tattoos Zhitain maybe a dragon but even he wants to have a army of hot undead women =)
“Wow the thief is such a complex class that requires such skill to maintain a good level”
“OMG rangers burst is so high it needs to be nerfed!”
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