Guild Wars 2

Evan Lesh.3295:

12) You cannot have bank access in the mists because anyone can port there for free.

17) This will not happen as it affects way to many things in the game. Why do you have that many things stacked at once as to need a stack size of 1000? The problem is not the stack size.

12) And yet people can port to the mists, walk through the portal into Lions Arch and get to the best bank, trading post and crafting stations for FREE

17) You’re right, the problem is not the stack size. Its the fact theres NOTHING to use our mats on. Theres SO LITTLE crafting/cosmetic content in spvp that you end up with multiples max stacks of PvP crafting items. Ugh, how do you guys not get this…

You’re not alone although no one else has spoken up. Over the last 24 hours Ive been randomly kicked consistently. I just seem to be randomly dropped from GW2. Happens in the mists and in servers whether they are hotjoins or tournaments.

Baam.2493:

Nunganok.4590:

Baam.2493:

I’d just like to say that I don’t find your words credible, No Walking, because you aren’t even on the PvP leaderboards.

^This guy is barely top 200, he wouldnt be on the leaderboards if they didnt extend it. I think hes just the cutest thing to hit the forums since leaderboards came up. He thinks it means something to be in the top 200 on gw2 NA. /golfclap

Your not even on the leaderboard…

Neither are you, OH WAIT LOL you cried until they extended it to top 1000.

I like how in one thread you acknowledge that I am on the leaderboard on my main account but in this thread you are pretending like you dont know me.

If I were you I would pretend like I didn’t know me either. <3

pot.6805:

Apolo.5942:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

what if melee damage is buffed?

The only way for melee to be significant is for its damage to be rise significantly, and general CC ability to kite, be toned down significantly. As long as classes can spam multiple slows, daze, stun, and aoe versions of it, melee will never be significant.

So true, something needs to be done.

Yeah backstab needs to do more damage.

Baam.2493:

Nunganok.4590:

Baam.2493:

Nunganok.4590:

Baam.2493:

Nunganok.4590:

Blackjack.5621:

there is no transparency on how the leaderboard works and there is no team rating.

makes no sense to me to gain rating since i will lose it anways while playing with friends or solo q …

maybe some people have different point of view on this.

The only people taking the leaderboard seriously are the kids in Anvil Rock that hang out on the stairs(you know who you are) that also seem to take themselves quite seriously. You know, the sPvP hipsters.

User: Nunganok.4590

Position on the leaderboards: he ain’t got one

Kittens given about his opinion: none

You’re correct, I post on the forum with a different account from the one Im playing on. And my main account is in the top 100, which yours isn’t. You’re barely in the top 200, you wouldnt even be on the leaderboards if they werent extended to the top 1000. lol

Kittens given about my opinion: Yours so far.

note the following:

he has to use an alt account just for the forums (why?)

he hasn’t given me proof that he is in the top 100, just stated that he is (why?)

;D Lezz go. Do you even box? Shots fired.

Sounds like you’re just mad that there are people that are better than you out there.

Between me and you, kid, shots were fired a long time ago and you lost. Over…and over.

:) Just log onto your main account and post, and i’ll see where you are on the leaderboards.

until then I think you’re full of kittens.

If you continue posting about you being on the leaderboards in response to every thread on the front page I just might have to do that.

Shots fired. Assandiftl down.

Baam.2493:

Nunganok.4590:

Baam.2493:

Nunganok.4590:

Blackjack.5621:

there is no transparency on how the leaderboard works and there is no team rating.

makes no sense to me to gain rating since i will lose it anways while playing with friends or solo q …

maybe some people have different point of view on this.

The only people taking the leaderboard seriously are the kids in Anvil Rock that hang out on the stairs(you know who you are) that also seem to take themselves quite seriously. You know, the sPvP hipsters.

User: Nunganok.4590

Position on the leaderboards: he ain’t got one

Kittens given about his opinion: none

You’re correct, I post on the forum with a different account from the one Im playing on. And my main account is in the top 100, which yours isn’t. You’re barely in the top 200, you wouldnt even be on the leaderboards if they werent extended to the top 1000. lol

Kittens given about my opinion: Yours so far.

note the following:

he has to use an alt account just for the forums (why?)

he hasn’t given me proof that he is in the top 100, just stated that he is (why?)

;D Lezz go. Do you even box? Shots fired.

Sounds like you’re just mad that there are people that are better than you out there.

Between me and you, kid, shots were fired a long time ago and you lost. Over…and over.

I use an alternate account because I dont go around shouting “EVERYONE LOOK AT MY LEADERBOARD kitten -Assandiftl 2013” like you. I know I am good. You know I am good.

Get on my level then perhaps I might consider you.

Baam.2493:

I’d just like to say that I don’t find your words credible, No Walking, because you aren’t even on the PvP leaderboards.

^This guy is barely top 200, he wouldnt be on the leaderboards if they didnt extend it. I think hes just the cutest thing to hit the forums since leaderboards came up. He thinks it means something to be in the top 200 on gw2 NA. /golfclap

Baam.2493:

Nunganok.4590:

Blackjack.5621:

there is no transparency on how the leaderboard works and there is no team rating.

makes no sense to me to gain rating since i will lose it anways while playing with friends or solo q …

maybe some people have different point of view on this.

The only people taking the leaderboard seriously are the kids in Anvil Rock that hang out on the stairs(you know who you are) that also seem to take themselves quite seriously. You know, the sPvP hipsters.

User: Nunganok.4590

Position on the leaderboards: he ain’t got one

Kittens given about his opinion: none

You’re correct, I post on the forum with a different account from the one Im playing on. And my main account is in the top 100, which yours isn’t. You’re barely in the top 200, you wouldnt even be on the leaderboards if they werent extended to the top 1000. lol

Kittens given about my opinion: Yours so far.

No Walking.6349:

Adaneshade.2409:

TESO’s PvP has been uncovered as a complete failure already.

Oh right, I totally forgot that there are people who can see into the future :/

Do you seriously think a game based on years of single player campaign mode on a console is going to have world class pvp?

Blackjack.5621:

there is no transparency on how the leaderboard works and there is no team rating.

makes no sense to me to gain rating since i will lose it anways while playing with friends or solo q …

maybe some people have different point of view on this.

The only people taking the leaderboard seriously are the kids in Anvil Rock that hang out on the stairs(you know who you are) that also seem to take themselves quite seriously. You know, the sPvP hipsters.

Its not just the programming, its the lack of a community combined with a community that whines and cries for everything. People didnt like waiting 10 minutes for a solid lineup so they cried about wait times and the devs had to speed up the matchmaking search. So, now we get stuck with rank 10~ players on our teams.

Im rank 40 and yesterday I queued with a rank 41 friend of mine and the other 3 people on our team were literally rank 1 and the opposite team was between rank 45-55…

Daecollo.9578:

We only have 8 classes, why is there only 1-2 /viable/ builds per? Its boring. Other games add more and more and this one only seems to take away. This game was better in BETA. It has just got worse since.

Ive been pvp’ing since beta and what I think has happened is not that all the builds that werent “top tier” got replaced by top tier builds but that 90% of the community flocked to the “top tier” builds and stopped making their own.

Although my Mesmer and Ele builds are very much my own I know they are fairly close to popular builds.

However, my Warrior, Guardian, Necro and Engie builds are very very very different from the builds I see people talking about/posting/playing with and Im pretty kitten successful with them.

The cookie cutter builds you see 90% of people using are good for them because they pvp solo. Im always pvp’ing with a team or other people so it gives me more room to create builds that are based on complimenting a team or another person with me. They can be used in hotjoins too but its harder because hotjoin kitten are terrible teammates.

JonathanSharp.7094:

Nunganok.4590:

Allie Murdock.8152:

We’re working on a Leaderboard F.A.Q. that might answer some questions/concerns here. Keep an eye out!

Thanks for the feedback

Does the FAQ stop people from dodging a loss of rank by alt + f4’ing out of the match before they lose?

They still take a loss, as well as a rating hit.

I am honestly relieved if this is the case, thank you!!

Allie Murdock.8152:

We’re working on a Leaderboard F.A.Q. that might answer some questions/concerns here. Keep an eye out!

Thanks for the feedback

Does the FAQ stop people from dodging a loss of rank by alt + f4’ing out of the match before they lose?

Dirame.8521:

My suggestion is this; when a person queues solo, they don’t get any rating up or down but when they get into groups higher than 3, they start getting ranked up and down depending on win or loss. If organised teams fight these groups of 3 or 2, they do not move in rank either.

I feel this would alleviate the current “pressure” everyone feels to keep forming teams in order to see their names on the leaderboards.

The idea to have a different gain/loss of rank for solo queuers is a good idea but not to this extent. Maybe something like a person solo queuing gains .6 points toward their rank gain if they win and loses .6 for a loss.

That way they arent eternally screwed if they get a bad set of tournies and arent gaining too much for putting in less effort than actual teams.

Im not saying this is how it should be, just that solo queuers shouldnt be denied a chance to rank up but that they shouldnt gain as much for putting in less effort than a teams collective effort.

Mrbig.8019:

Hammerheart.1426:

Here are the solo spvper options in GW2:

1) Thresh the wheat in Hotjoins (assuming you know how)
2) Solo Queue for a tournament and get placed against a premade.

then invite your team ( or some guy you think is skilled) in a party and join again.

rinse and repeat till you get a full party.

now you have a premade.

you’re welcome.

Hammerheart and I have been spvp’ing/tpvp’ing in premades since BWE’s. Our Unique ID’s on the forums are not our UID’s in game. So dont look us up and rate us on that. We dont like revealing who we are.

We roll with premades all day, we roll you and people like you all day. But, as people on the top, we have noticed these huge defects in the system and are trying to voice our opinions NOT as scrubs on the bottom, but as hardcore spvp’ers on the top noticing the sad state of the game for you little peons, filthy peasants.

Sorry if that offends you, deal with it.

Fubar.4389:

I took a look at the leaderboards and have stopped playing GW2. Totally useless.

Yes the leaderboards are useless. Is that a reason to quit GW2? No. If you are quitting GW2 because of the leaderboards, you weren’t pvp’ing for the right reasons.

Valkyriez.6578:

Mrbig.8019:

maybe you should read more carefully. 2 patches ago they resetted win/loss and their ratio, but they kept ratings from march till now.

A guy with 12 wins simply has not played much from last 2 patches but played a lot from march till now, and had a high ranking to begin with.

OMG stop the hate, those leaderboards are a very good start, the only flaw is the inabiity to see your rating and not having a solo/premade rating split.

The end.

/closethread.

Pretty much this. Split them between team and solo and add the MMR value to the web page and to display at the end of a game instead of the rank value.

Valkz, It’s Cromlech/Slubs from WMD

I agree with what you say, but I dont agree with the person you are quoting. I wasnt trying to ultimately put down ANet, which is the reaction I seem to be getting from people.

I was putting down the steps ANet took to introduce the leaderboards and their initial representation of the community.

<3 u still though

P.S. Ive been hopping in your TS but you arent there?! Brooooo we need to get some more tournies in.

Ezrael.6859:

I couldn’t care less about these leader-boards.

What we really need are custom arenas with lots of different server settings available so that we can create our own game modes by changing respawn timers / amount of respawns / points to victory / team size / which nodes are turned on or off, NPCs etc.

Make the game fun again by ourselves, as apparently the devs are incapable of doing so, at least within the next year. It seems to take months to make even the smallest changes, only to see it abandoned a few months later.

SOTG is a joke – just here’s a basic description of the professions and we know Ele has too much healing so we’ll fix that by nerfing quickness and therefore burst damage.

Totally agree. I wish people would stop demanding superficial crap that makes them feel cooler for having a rank next to their name. We need content.

ensoriki.5789:

That makes no sense.
If they Reset K/D today, but don’t reset ratings. You will see the exact same thing.
Those with high rating will be up there but with low crap like 12 wins.
Just how it goes if you reset a statistic and leave the others the same.
I guess you could say the rating should’ve decayed more to prevent that.

I dont think you get it…Thats the problem…and your last sentence there is a good idea which is what this thread is about. In the same paragraph you said you didnt understand what the problem was, stated the problem and then stated something they couldve done to make it better/prevent the garbage.

Theplayboy.6417:

Cheaterboards….. It all depends on who does and who does not alt+f4 before a loss.

Does that actually work? And if so…Wtf?

Mrbig.8019:

maybe you should read more carefully. 2 patches ago they resetted win/loss and their ratio, but they kept ratings from march till now.

A guy with 12 wins simply has not played much from last 2 patches but played a lot from march till now, and had a high ranking to begin with.

OMG stop the hate, those leaderboards are a very good start, the only flaw is the inabiity to see your rating and not having a solo/premade rating split.

The end.

/closethread.

Maybe you should read the thread before posting.

A guy with 12 wins simply shouldnt be on the leaderboards. Someone who hasnt played a lot from march until now and had a high ranking when it didnt matter shouldnt be on the leaderboards when it does matter.

SwickHobo.5096:

not every1 cares about rank. Solo Que is still a great option for the semi competetive player who can’t stand the trash that is hot join.

Yeah but a lot of people actually do care, so…why should the fact that some children dont care and are lazy negatively effect those of us that do care? “Semi-competitive”? Theres nothing competitive about these solo queues. If you dont care you arent competitive in any way shape or form beyond thinking its cool when you get a lucky win since you arent trying.

SwickHobo.5096:

I’ve been playing solo q’s non stop for the past idk 5 days, i’ve yet to have a single leaver/afk. So i’m gonna say your being slightly dramatic.

You’re lying.

78 Rurik.3197 Rurik Adelbern W21 L12 63.64% Anvil Rock

This guy has 21 wins and 12 losses, hes in the top 100 players on the leaderboards. Yeah. Leader..boards…

Forestgreen.7981:

Seriously this seems more like a oversight than anything

What?! ANet? Oversight in spvp? No way.

KarlaGrey.5903:

Stop farming solo queuers already, it’s sad.

How is this even remotely relevant to the topic? Most of us have the majority of our tournaments wins from Paid Tournaments before you could solo queue for them.

Bump. Still waiting for a response from Chiggs.

If you say anything possibly negative about moderators or ANet they hit you with infractions. Ive been personally targeted by angry moderators before and it sucks. I had a moderator following me around for days infracting every single thing I said that wasnt absolutely positive. If I disagreed with someone in a polite way, I was infracted.

I’ve been playing Mesmer since day 1. I have over 500 hours of spvp on my Mesmer, Im proficient in Bunker Guardian as well as a few other classes.

Im on the West Coast but I dont work and have an open schedule.

Hit me up, my in game account name is different from my forum one. It’s EaGrimdark.7849.

Although most of the videos are old, I have some footage here:
http://www.twitch.tv/bongwizard_slubs

Quick Mouse.7635:

Nunganok.4590:

Quick Mouse.7635:

I was just thinking how cool it would be if, once you hit rank 80 in sPvP, you could start crafting a Legendary weapon for PvP. What are you thoughts?

You realize hitting rank 80 takes years right? If you earn 7k Rank Points a day 365 days a year it will take 6-7 years to hit rank 80.

Although it is a great idea. I would love to see some spvp love beyond balancing and maps/tournaments. The initial grandeur of the aesthetics is wearing off after 7 months and could use a boost like this.

Pretty sure there are people in the 60s already. I would expect the first people to hit 80 in the next 1-2 years. Either way, with all that effort you deserve -some- kind of reward. What else are you going to go for in sPvP once you hit rank 80?

Pretty sure that doesnt change anything. Pretty sure those people average more than 7k glory a day. Pretty sure the average glory earned a day is 7k across all players. Pretty sure you dont know the maths. Pretty sure that people will hit 80 within a year. Pretty sure the average player will hit 80 in several years if they continue to play.

Being an elitist doesnt mean being a jerk, and it doesnt mean badmouthing people. Being an elitist means you are always doing your best and only want the best. It means you strive to be above the people who are above average.

Elitists who are jerks are being jerks because they are just jerks. Did that possibility ever cross your mind? I guess not.

tl;dr

Being an elitist doesnt make you a jerk. You are a jerk no matter what and most elitists arent jerks.

“ur bad” If you are bad then why does this bother you?

“l2p” If you dont fully understand the game and are holding people back because of this, then perhaps you actually DO need to learn to play.

“noob” If you are making noob mistakes and playing like a noob then you ARE a noob.

Its human nature to establish hierarchies, to categorize people and to label things. Its how we identify our position in comparison with an ever changing society of peers that arent equals.

If someone is insulting you then get over it.

An elitist being a jerk doesnt mean all elitists are jerks, it just means that individual is a jerk. Grow up.

Zodian.6597:

This is going to happen in any game with solo queue, if you were up against a pre made that may be a different story.

And @ rank v skill, there are people (and teams) that stopped playing months ago that could come back and likely dominate the NA scene within a few weeks. Some people are just naturally better at video gaming than others, regardless of time spent.
For example:
I have a RL friend named Robert who used to play WoW on a professional level (for whatever that’s worth). I’d be playing a game for months -like any type of game, I remember I played this Tony Hawk Downhill racing game on the Wii for like 2 months straight and he came over one day, picked up the controller while I was in the bathroom, played for like 20 minutes and beat all my high scores.
Not to completely disregard time spent or anything, it’s just that the quality of time (in terms of skill progression) is much greater for some people than others. It all just goes back to quality > quantity, but that’s not to say that there aren’t any really strong high rank players and teams at all, just that there will be some bad r50+ and some amazing r20- people. Sorry for the messy explanation! – I might write an article about it sometime to help clear all this up, I have a few friends that are in grad school for psychology and I’d like to get their opinion to further clarify my experience with this topic.
TL;DR: quality of time > quantity of time

So basically you are agreeing with me? That rank means nothing, the only people that care about rank are implying rank restrictions because they are people that want to immediately pvp with people who already understand the meta.

I made the comparison between a rank 10 and a rank 40 because even if someone thats rank 10 and quit months ago came back right now they would not be as skilled as a rank 40.

Yes I agree there are people that CAN come back and SPEND TIME acclimating themselves to the game in its current state and quickly compete on par with the upper echelons of the community. Anyone can, all they have to do is not be a total noob to pvp, watch streams/videos, research the meta and practice.

The point I was making about rank restrictions is that some people do it because they are looking for random people that they need to know are knowledgeable of the game already.

If a rank 10 whispered you and said “Im really good, trust me” and a rank 45 whispered you and said “Yeah Ill come do tournaments with you” which would you take? Would you possibly waste your time with the rank 10? Maybe he actually is good? Or would you take the rank 45 since they clearly already know whats going on?

If I was forming a team, I would GLADLY take someone thats a boss at gw2 pvp that quit months ago and work with them for a couple weeks. But thats not what rank restrictions are for…they are for grabbing people quickly and getting in a few rounds.

…But that was never the issue we were adressing or discussing. Thats you explaining a hypothetical scenario that benefits your argument. So basically its just a what if statement….

Quick Mouse.7635:

I was just thinking how cool it would be if, once you hit rank 80 in sPvP, you could start crafting a Legendary weapon for PvP. What are you thoughts?

You realize hitting rank 80 takes years right? If you earn 7k Rank Points a day 365 days a year it will take 6-7 years to hit rank 80.

Although it is a great idea. I would love to see some spvp love beyond balancing and maps/tournaments. The initial grandeur of the aesthetics is wearing off after 7 months and could use a boost like this.

Cool ideas, Ive also been a warrior since day 1 and I’ll share a build Ive been using since the nerf to frenzy. It’s pretty much a better version of the old CC Warrior builds.

Annoying CC Warrior

Strength II/III/XI
Arms
Defense II/X/XI
Tactics I
Discipline

*Axe and Shield(or Mace)/Hammer *

Heal->Elite: [Mending] Bull’s Charge/Kick/Throw Bolas [Juggernaut]

Weapon Sigils: Bloodlust & Energy/ Energy.

Runes: 6x Rune of the Ogre

Amulet: Soldiers Amulet. (As usual keep a couple different amulets on you based on what you are going up against in tournaments.)

You will have:

26k HP, 2k Toughness(3.1k Armor), 3.4k Power. More CC than you should.

How to play:

Clearly you rotate through your CC skills based on what you need, once you become acclimated to the build it will become more clear when to use which skills.

A lot of people complain that Stability ruins builds like these, but those people also probably think thieves are OP. When someone pops stability you use axe 3 and then hammer 3 to hold them in place and drain that stability(This can also be used to catch people running, both are long range immobo/cripple), if you are in danger of losing a lot of HP pop Juggernaut since it will double your HP and give you stability for as long as you are in that form.

This build is for teamfights and roaming. It can also work well as a solo defender on a point as you can pretty much delay any fight, by cc’ing, long enough for reinforcements to arrive. If there are multiple people assaulting you have to be good at swapping targets efficiently and dodge rolling properly. This is also why I prefer Shield, it makes 2v1’s a lot easier.

The build is very straight forward but as with most cases as a Warrior the execution is where it matters most which requires a broad knowledge of classes and their potential builds based on what weapons you see they are using.

Like usual its easy to guess an opponents toughness, crit/crit damage, hp total based on how much damage your auto-attack deals, the crits/damage you are receiving and the percentages of hp you are taking away. This is how you tell the enemies build/role once you have seen which weapons they are using. USE THIS!! It will make you better!

Any questions? Feel free to ask.

~Bongwizud Slubs

r4X Warrior/Necro/Mes

wookie.8934:

Gandarel.5091:

Actually that’s a very well balanced match.

Lol’d pretty hard.

Same here, lolol.

Gandarel.5091:

Actually that’s a very well balanced match.

Did you notice the part where his teammates had 0 points for the entire match?

JoopFOX.9510:

I can’t believe that peoply still think rank is somehow indicative of skill.

So you’re saying someone that’s rank 10 is as good as someone thats been spvp’ing since launch and is rank 45? Please, explain how this is possible.

Its not that rank is indicative of skill. A skilled pvp’er that’s rank 15 is not going to be better than a skilled pvp’er that is rank 40. The point of the rank restrictions is that people want to pvp with other people that have the same experience in the meta and understand the meta and the little ins and outs of the game. Not everyone wants to sit there and babysit a noob because they are skilled in pvp but new.

Literally at the bottom of that article it says its an April Fools joke…

Master Charles.7093:

Just dueled a mesmer with my bunker engi. I came with 2k toughness, 24k vit, and a reduced cooldown elixir (32 seconds) that converts all conditions to boons for 5 seconds.

Death breakdown included:
10k bleeding
9k illusionary unload
4k retaliation

The mesmer spent about 1/5th of the time invulnerable with blurred frenzy, I spent about 90% of the time dazed, stunned, or confused: not a gg.

If the s/p combo still works on you, you’re doing it wrong. Only chumps get rolled by s/p.

They really dont care about PvP land. They know they’ll always be able to figure out some little crap incentive to get pve care bears into HoTM, thats all that matters to them. They know people will get bored in pve in a year and go spvp.

The game is discounted 30% right now because they ignore 30% of the game, sPvP.

mbh.8301:

Vapula.8210:

You already have to dodge properly on a point, or you will roll off.

Invalid point.
You can dodge in any direction, so even if you’re sitting at the edge of the point there’s still places for you to dodge.

Invalid point.
You didnt use your brain to interpret what the person you quoted said. Sometimes its not beneficial to continue dodging on the point, thus it would be wise to leave the point, therefore dodging does not hold the same beneficial qualities as invulnerability.

mbh.8301:

If you have permanent vigor and quadruple energy sigils then maybe the point will get decapped from right underneath you, but that assumes the other guy hasn’t dodged at all.

Quadruple energy sigils? You know that if you have one sigil that has a cooldown on its effect it puts all other sigils you have equipped on cooldown once its used right? As in, you’ll get the use of one sigil and the rest go on cooldown?

Like if you have Air and Energy and you swap weapons and proc Energy the Air sigil goes on a 9 second cooldown…

I really think you should understand how the game works before making ridiculous posts like this.

mbh.8301:

The only “properly” when it comes to dodging is timing it against damage.

Again you are wrong.

Id rather take 5k damage and dodge 3 seconds of immobo than dodge the 5k damage and sit there immobolized while 3 people pummel me. Or even just one person…

You clearly do not understand this game or what you are talking about.

You basically just copied the last guy who posted a google docs poll, except his was done more professionally.

Vence.6974:

I need a guest invite to anvil rock. Im one of the top NA thief.

Who are you?