Guild Wars 2

Darek.1836:

Parktou.4263:

geekanerd.4123:

You’re upset because we got people to rush a choke point manned with siege? I guess I don’t get it.

Also: ET is no stranger to zerg balls. Glass houses and everything.

No, dissapointed to see you zerging in such a large group for one target instead of splitting off 20 of the 50 that were there to take a tower while you were taking SM. I’m still a non believer to this idea that ET is relying on zerging to win, I’m just not seeing it happen on any BL and I’m on ET so I should be the one to know about it, ya know?

yeah bro I hope you know that when the FoE rolls out it’s usually a 50 man zerg. Whether or not this is mostly pugs idk, but thats the fact.

Only on EB bro. People see us capping stuff, killing everyone we cross, and they obviously want some of the action. The snowball effect hits and suddenly we have a map on us lol…. not that its a bad thing, its EB and we are happy to give some leadership and fun there.
Borderlands though is a different story, such as last night on Fergs it was just FoE 25 man against an 80 man Ferguson zergball. Different story there right?

wyther.8372:

Jeknar.6184:

Well, I’m not really getting why Gilkin is leaving… By the way he’s talking, it’s like ET turned unto the new SF… I didn’t see the 70man zerg he mentioned, unless he’s talking about Agg and FoE offensives (which I tend to avoid for personal reasons)…

But if the game will be more fun for him at FC, I can just wish him good luck because I have nothing against him, except that since his name will become “Ferguson Crossing Invader” he’ll be attacked on sight.

Um, are we fighting on the same server? Cause from 6pm eastern to 11pm eastern we now generally have a queue non stop in EB, are taking over stuff in the other BLs and normally have our own capped. Last night we were running 70 people into 30 -35 and people were laughing about it. The same thing we railed SF about, we are now doing.

70 v 30 is wonderful to win and take stuff over, but that isn’t what I like, I don’t enjoy it. To me it is a boring snooze fest. Now things might equal out at other times, but I don’t get to play at those times except on rare occasion for a very limited amount of in game time.

As I said I’ll wait a week to see if it evens out (or if I was even welcome), but I want to lead when things are looking bad (which is the only time I really ever lead), not just when things look good and anyone can lead to victory. Different strokes for different folks.

Stay away from EB bud. No matter what server, EB is always a zergfest.
From what ive gathered theres always at least 1 borderland, usually 2, which is outmanned and no blue on it.

Saico.4378:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Did SF empty all BLs to take back Lake in ET bl? Srsly, how many people did you have?

Also had a blast defending our north tower from the mighty zerg as well, at least we held you off there.

15v100

There were at least 30+ FoE there last night. This picture proves it.

where is the picture? as i KNOW there was not 30 foe last night. when i logged around 9.30pm cst there was about 15-18 of us + random others

Whisper Me.5710:

I just double-checked and all NA servers are now “Very High” – that includes ET and FC.

The other two servers in our match went from “Medium” population to “Very High”. They received Tier 1 & 2 guilds. We’re still posting scores 2.5x as high as they are. Pretty tactics may win a battle, but it doesn’t win the ghetto war.

Most irrelevant statement ive ever read on here. If we go by what you’re saying, then FC has as many numbers as Jade Quarry as theyre both very high.
Truth is, theres probably a very very large area of Very High, with FC/ET at the very bottom of that borderline

Something i wanted to ask but totally forgot. On our, i think, 3rd day on ET we went to defend Briar. Upon arriving we found a bunch of FC on the wall around the side in the hidey hole. They had built 3 rams for the wall. Why? lol

trust me VotF are NOT coming here lol. I may be friends with them, but they are exactly where they want to be and we are not interested in “stacking” a server or even looking at the scoreboard or coverage. We came here to get away from the 80-100 man blob zergballs in tier 1 not go back to it, just good clean fights at mid-pop range (10-50). If we climb a couple tiers eventually thats fine with us, but we really dont want to hit the higher tiers again for the zergfest reason.

it got kinda silly in t1 seeing 2 zergs firing blank trebs at each other for an hour before they got bored

or, make it so it only contests when 5 or more are attacking it

Loken.9724:

oh. we will be fighting. Just pop orange swords. We are bound to show up if we are on the map. We usually run NA prime from about 6pm-11pmcst.

Just PM me in game sometime and tell me you are fighting endless waves of SF and we will come jump in, much like we did today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqIEKDwqJbM

Sorry, I didn’t have the tower part on fraps…well okay I did, but I couldn’t post it due to some comments in the chat box and my absolutely kitten abilities to not understand video editing correctly. I wanted to have the video start and end with us getting wiped by FoE in the lords room. I hope my body dropped you nothing but useless spikes

Will miss fighting you guys when you leave bud, hope your recruitment swoop / fun vacation was enjoyable.
Couple of tips to take back to t2 with you after watching your vid…. turn off them darn green circles lol, fastcast is far superior for instant decision making. Also dont walk backwards just delete that S movement key, seriously its like a free lunch when i see someone walking backwards. And finally dont blindly drop your necro stuff when doing your running away necro tactic, try to pan and drop. Any good group will never ever follow you in a straight line, such as when we wiped you outside overlook ruins, we came in off-center avoiding all your necro drops and smashed into the side of you.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

You do understand that 40 is a zerg to us down here in little old t8, right?

Even groups of 15 are referenced as a zerg at times, usually to call something out quickly as opposed to referring to numbers, but still. Manning 40 together from the same guild is not a small feat by any means down here.

Only on reset night brotha, the other 6 nights we are between 10 and 20 like ginley said.

ninjambo.3784:

Hmm, well actually in that fight u have pictured, it was even numbers at first. You are showing the aftermatch where the 30 survivors on your side regrouped, lol. Also, FoE wiped us once when your guys were running a 60 man zerg of FoE + Agg one the SMC wall, other than that we didn’t wipe to you once

Agg were on a different map, check Jerico’s fraps vid from Friday night. Also the ss you can see the amount of dead and alive on the minimap, about 15 dead 15 alive
p.s. – one of the nice wipes of you was when you stacked behind a cliff edge so we veiled around it jumped down on top of you and insta killed all, hard to forget as it was pretty epic and frapsed :P

p.s. If you want to label a fraps Vk v Foe you might wanna edit out the whole green name army shown below from your vid :P

Waage.2047:

Zhrek.9781:

So, did Foe and agg really leave BG? or was that trolls? I know Tsym was really excited to kick them in the teeth a few times =)

They left because the ZERG vs ZERG fight was not for them and i can not blame them. Tier 1 is not as fun as the lower tiers in a lot of ways because you can do more there as a organized guild especially when the other side has some good guild’s also.

So yeah we lost 2 major wvw guilds that brought a lot of power with them. So yeah Tsym is kitten out of luck. IF they are on in EU prime i will come kill them if that is what they want.

Correct. Its not a hit to Blackgate in the slightest as we were down to around a 10 man group only, so theyll not even notice and i hope they keep kicking kitten like they did to get the t1 victory.

T1 used to be different, there used to be a lot of guilds roaming doing their own thing, but those days are long gone. Now its a case of everyone running together as many numbers as possible.
This made it near impossible for our 25 man team to operate, hitting 70+ skilled players each time we engaged. We soon lost interest and were down to only a 10 man group, which as you can imagine was even worse.

Hence we decided in the interests of everyone to move away from the zergball, to a place where we could find more scaled down sizable competition, which we have done and are having the most fun we’ve had in gw2 since the tier 1 guild v guild days.
Suddenly interest is back and we have our 25 man rolling again, so everyone is happy.

Much respect to everyone in Tier 1, keep fighting the good fight and remember its just a game, so enjoy it

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/FC-ET-SF/first#post1737359

ninjambo.3784:

Nice fights tonight. Shoutout to FoE. We were very outnumbered in most fights so you guys made me think on my feet :P. Welcome to the tier 8 chaos

was a couple good even fights we had with you guys and came out on top, but then this happened ended up 30 v 70 when the tagalongs grabbed onto you, shame you couldnt shake them off, you guys are pretty solid it was fun fights

what map are VK on tonight? :P

/agreed – Please help with this Anet

[FoE] have returned to Eredon Terrace, though we got cut in half by the High pop status and are putting the gold together to get the rest of our force across. We are pleased to be back and look forward to a lot of fun with you guys.
We are of course recruiting, so any hardcore WvW players looking for a guild should head to www.FistoftheEmpire.org and hit apply!

p.s. – yes Agg came with us. We got tired of the zergball that t1 has become so came home
Looking forward to fighting VK after reading all the hype about them! maybe we met them in t2 i cant remember

[FoE] have returned to Eredon Terrace, though we got cut in half by the High pop status and are putting the gold together to get the rest of our force across. We are pleased to be back and look forward to a lot of fun with you guys.

We are of course recruiting, so any hardcore WvW players looking for a guild should head to www.FistoftheEmpire.org and hit apply!

30 chests, no coupon. gg anet

Mohmohchan.4120:

uhm, its not a tactic. I just heard it from one of my kaineng friends. As i’ve said, its not 100% true. Well some details i got was, its 2 NA primetime guilds

None of us who came from SoS are going anywhere i can guarantee you that.
BG is an amazing server full of amazing people, a joy to play here.
Win Lose or Draw they fight and fight and fight, you cant ask for more than that.
We couldn’t be happier here.

Nuked.2360:

We outnumber you in 0 timeslots now but nice try there. Unless I’m wrong but last night there was more MERC/ND/Thai on one map than FOO had total online (Foo still took BG garrison just saying )

We can agree to disagree there bud. We can swap freely between at least 2 maps in primetime, where JQ’s primetime queues have been public knowledge for the past weeks unless they suddenly stopped playing at the thought of facing a defeat (thats bandwagons for ya)

All in all its a great fight and great competition with under 10k in it, and i hope it continues (and even a 3rd server gets xfers) for the future.

The bad apples of JQ who are throwing insults the way of BG sure have short memories.
So what, BG brought in 5 solid guilds and are now, even though still outnumbered in the coverage game, beating you. They are forgetting that JQ brought in not 5, not 10, but closer to 20 guilds.
The reason BG are winning is not because they “stacked”, but its downright due to the really good organization that the pugs have when running together, and they show it day in day out when they defeat more organized guilds such as PRX in open field combat. Thats an accomplishment and JQ should try to get the same level of random organization rather than throw insults and accusations the way of BG.
Remember, you still have superior numbers around the 24/7 game…. do something with it.

Haziq.3907:

Wow thats alot , i wonder what’s gonna happen if JQ beats BG. They gonna transfer again ?

It seems to me that alot of guilds went to JQ as well.

Blackgate are certainly closer to them now, still need around another 12 guilds to match JQ’s pre-free transfer closure antics.

Sunspots.9861:

Keeping Bay during reset against an entire queue of spawn is pretty impressive, no lie! Too bad you didn’t have an HB for both sides of the map though! Good fights all around though on BGBL.

It was a difficult situation as FoE had cleaned out Hills and HB had cleaned out Bay, but pink were on garrison inner so one of us had to abandon. HB stayed at Bay and FoE ditched hills but got to garri too late and both were simultaniously flipped and it was an uphill battle from there.
Props to pink on the tactical play on bgbl, very impressive

i approve this change. now scouting comes into play like it should.

Psilocyben.3612:

Sarasti.2453:

Someone in this thread said “Oppa Kaineng Style” and I thought, “Why not?”

Disclaimer: I apologize for nuffin’, especially sparkling pink ponies. We have several of them living in TCBL Citadel actually.

kaineng? i don’t LIKE the KAINENG.

My wife almost collapsed when she saw all that nasty dust and dirt everywhere lol

Skyblue.9358:

Ohai.8346:

so who is the Kaineng guild [WM] Washing Machine? i found that funny when i saw a bunch of them lol

[WM] = War Machine, a very hardcore WvW guild, mainly Korean, but also hv international members.

No theres actually another guild running around with the [WM] tag called Washing Machine lol

so who is the Kaineng guild [WM] Washing Machine? i found that funny when i saw a bunch of them lol

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

[DIS] is having a great time in EB right now fighting the SoS transfers.

We are pretty light tonight but having a blast fighting you guys, thanks for the fun! And props to the BG army in EB you guys are awesome to work with

Rayya.2591:

Kelo.4370:

As far as best guild/server I wonder who would win between Vizunah Square and Jade Quarry right now I bet it would be an awesome week of WvW. Both server have been T1 forever.

Jade quary got better coverage then vizunah, they would win cause numbers.
In term of strategy, peak only ,jade quary would lose vs few Eu servers.

I would have to agree that Viz are the most organized server of all, i was told they have 1 teamspeak of 400+ people for their primetimes. Thats gotta take a lot of organization and dedication to pull off, and it shows in their weekly performances.

Shiren.9532:

I mostly call Agg and FoE bandwagon guilds because they weren’t SoS natives, they came there because it was winning, and they are leaving when it’s losing.

Just an FYI, FoE joined SoS when it was in Tier 4 before it started its winning streak.

Oresh.4729:

breaking news (well for me)
is there any other guilds following agg on bg, was agg part of an alliance?
will there be a goodbye letter from agg?

so many drama remains me of wow

FoE and AGG are both in the process of moving to Blackgate.
SoS was our home but in recent weeks they have simply given up and the militia have vanished/bandwaggoned. We found ourselves trying to hold 2-3 maps between 2 guilds and pugs, with other guilds cowering away from the fight. People like tsym having 4 of 65 online people in WvW wanting to take week off after week off if we aint winning, and other guilds more interested in Fractals than fighting for 2nd place.
This was starting to snowball and was not healthy for either of our guilds who are both active competitive pvp guilds, and after several weeks of server meetings we decided its simply time to move on.
Will we have a better chance of being #1 with Blackgate? Probably not unless they get Oceanic/SEA transfers, but what we will get is a server who actually want to fight and never give up which is all our guilds want.
We wish Sea of Sorrows the best and we leave sad that the server went this way.

Barab.9016:

Are you FoE’s spoke person ?

I was talking about the sos daytime pug playerbase actually, most of which say theyre not bothering anymore.

Pmetheus.5397:

I need to feed you bags somehow.

fixed

Xaaz.8472:

Yes, he started back up once JQ took the lead.

JQ took the lead days ago, i havent posted in close to a week? Move along fisherman

MarMaster.6241:

Ohai.8346:

spartanx.1364:

I will say this though SoS’s presence on EB seems scared to attack JQ. I am NOT playing the we are getting 2v1 card, I just wish SoS pressured JQ more so we could get them off our lawn.

Right from the reset SoR were all over SoS towers, and every time we took SM you were all over ogrewatch etc. What do you think we are going to do when you take SM?
T1 WvW is very broken and lopsided right now though and most of us are not playing it aside from scheduled nights with guilds as its pointless fighting uphill battles trying to keep PPT against a server with 4x your numbers, so JQ can enjoy the boredom & wins at the expense of fun, and when there are forces to fight expect to be rolled as usual.
Still very upset they stacked like that and took all the competitiveness out of t1 scoreboard game when it was obviously very very tight after their first 2 big guilds joined.

Facts:
2012 Week 47, SoS makes it to T1, Wins
Including this week, SoS wins 9 times in 12 weeks. Including 6 in a row.

JQ won 3 times of 12. Including 2 in a row.

Yep, JQ took the competitiveness out of T1, the sky is falling, we are all doomed, etc.

SoS won competitive games by 20k or less since that guild went to europe, and when they came back to JQ you may have won that game as it was down to 2k i think by the Friday? Yes thats competitive. Adding 20 guilds more to stack the server and make the games boring blowouts is not healthy to GW2 nor fun to anyone partaking in those games. So as i said, enjoy your boredom playing against doors. we will cyas for a few hours a night for our guild runs, but thats about it.

spartanx.1364:

I will say this though SoS’s presence on EB seems scared to attack JQ. I am NOT playing the we are getting 2v1 card, I just wish SoS pressured JQ more so we could get them off our lawn.

Right from the reset SoR were all over SoS towers, and every time we took SM you were all over ogrewatch etc. What do you think we are going to do when you take SM?
T1 WvW is very broken and lopsided right now though and most of us are not playing it aside from scheduled nights with guilds as its pointless fighting uphill battles trying to keep PPT against a server with 4x your numbers, so JQ can enjoy the boredom & wins at the expense of fun, and when there are forces to fight expect to be rolled as usual.
Still very upset they stacked like that and took all the competitiveness out of t1 scoreboard game when it was obviously very very tight after their first 2 big guilds joined.

Thork.7250:

Hey all,

As many have already stated throughout this thread; GREAT FIGHTS SO FAR!!!! In honor of some of the greatest WvW I have ever experienced (been playing since BWE1), I made a quick video showing some of the highlights my Guild and I experienced in EB over the weekend. Shows a lot of the main organized WvW guilds (FoE, PRX, Choo, ext…) who were playing in EB this weekend clashing together in huge super organized fights!!!

We won some, we lost some, but one thing’s for sure, the level of competition and more importantly the fun, has increased dramatically with this new reset! Enjoy…

This is Tier 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CcxKcYoXgM&feature=youtu.be

Keep up the good fights; this one’s going to come down to wire for sure!

/Salute to all involved,

~Thork
[FoE] Guild XO
www.FistoftheEmpire.com

Some great action indeed at reset on EB, Kudos to Choo, PRX, and all the rest we came across in this video

Love fighting against SoR, you guys are awesome and i hope we get regular matches against you. Gonna be interesting to see how you match up to our Oceanics during the week but either way you guys are solid and great fun to fight against, you guys never give up!
If Anet have indeed reduced the number count in the WvW zones, i hope they dont change it back as its making very even matchups with all servers having equal coverage. They’ll sure make a lot of $$$ from the JQ who will want to jump ship away from the queues thats for sure lol

Shaojack.3871:

Dog.1472:

SoR’s enthusiasm is cute, but BG was the same way at first and they ended up losing out to JQ with half the points by the end of last reset. Let’s see if you guys can keep it up.

Probably not.
Nothing we aren’t use to though, I just hope people don’t come in here screaming when we get capped on off hours, everyone just needs to expect it and just do your best when your online. I usually stop watching the scores after Sunday since all bets on fair coverage go out the window anyways =P

Well SoR (and SoS) have proven that with all maps full, you are better than JQ. The only way JQ will win this game is in the weekdays when SoS go down to 2 maps full and SoR probably the same, while JQ still have 4 maps full.
Its a numbers game, but the weekend is a skill game.

Xaaz.8472:

LOL – I think you have that backwards, troll.

Im pretty sure our video footage will disagree, and again all day today. Vid inc later this week, i challenge you to show you doing the opposite

spartanx.1364:

Loving T1 So Far Awesome Fights in EB…. FoE and PRX Top Notch fights best in… well ever I think. Hell that last fight with PRX was so intense I crashed. I dont know if I can take not having these fights after the reset.

Yeah we at FoE had some great fights against Choo, you guys certainly put numbers out! lol Also had great fun wiping 1.5x the PRX numbers until they started running away and calling in the whole map every time they saw us rollseyes

With the gem cost so high to transfer (approx 25 bucks or 35-40 gold) it will only encourage people to buy from gold sellers to keep this extortionate cost down.
10 bucks is fine, 25 bucks to transfer, i would say no thanks.

Call it their attempt to stop Xfers, its not, they are trying to make a killing out of this. Its going to backfire on Anet aswell as make them look like moneygrabbers.

Remove white swords, and increase orange swords to 10+ players only.
This will encourage more tactful gameplay with the use of scouts etc a lot more.
Also remove waypoints.

Tala.7638:

@Ohai
You should really change this thread title to indict also EU and SEA coverage.
@any perspective guild:
We do have a solid thread here:
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/78596-sea-of-sorrows-an-organized-community-for-wvw/
Please look us up or head:
http://www.sea-of-sorrows.com/
Reach out, we do need a hand. SEA/EU/NA

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JemL.3501:

Ohai.8346:

No thanks, id rather win via skill than caving in to the JQ tactic of using numbers to hide their weakness in gaming.

BUT SoS had a lot more people than JQ…was that ok? because if you think they were winning because they were obliterating opponents…you are delusional.

Absolutely not brother. I even posted in the JQ recruitment thread when it first went up to encourage a few guilds to go to the server saying i had much respect for them.
That has gone out the window with the recruiting overkill as they dont seem to have the sportsmanship which we do in trying to get tier 1 a level playing field.

Naytron.7831:

Nexxia.5641:

Do not let this thread trick you into thinking JQ need more players.
They now have a stacked server with long queues on every map, and are trying to get to an “invincible” state of the server via outnumbering everyone after being outplayed for so many months.
They do not need more guilds or players, look at the scoreboard.
If you want competition, look to another server.

Quit making it sound like Sea of Sorrows doesn’t have the numbers. Now that we’re on the equal footing when it comes to numbers/coverage, I don’t see you guys saying “good fight, JQ” anymore now that you guys are losing.

Anyways, welcome to the new guilds to what we all call home!

Wow this guy is actually so deluded he thinks theres equal numbers lol, we dont have our own server players posting in our recruitment thread about being stuck in queues like this JQ thread.
JQ – full 4 maps
SoS – full 2 maps, outmanned 1 map, half empty 4th map.

Do the math my friend.
and…..

Polismassa.6740:

Just a note, JQ currently has Queues on all maps for much of the day, we have by far the largest and strongest NA contingent in T1, and our EU and Oceanic coverage zones are getting stronger every day.

Point is, JQ is no longer in need of more Bodies in WvW, if your guild is thinking of transferring to a new home in T1, i would recommend Blackgate, Sea of Sorrows, Kaineng or Sanctum of Rall. All of them have solid communities, and a great organizational structure.

The above is from your own server player from EMP guild, you know, your guildie.

hex.3218:

Josh P.1296:

Azure Prower.8701:

Intigo.1653:

Rawnoodles.1398:

Score Update!

I think you need to make sure your guild logo is in that picture a few more times.

:D

This score update is brought to you by Empërium.

I chuckled.
On a side note JQ just received yet another guild. Is that the 20th now?

How is it that people know this when no one on JQ knows? I’ve seen nothing to indicate that.

Go look at the servers recruit thread for an idea, and thats not counting the ones who didnt post in the thread and before the thread was created.

and another 350+ man guild join JQ today

JaredKincade.9761:

Ohai.8346:

Kirbyprime.2645:

Problem is, their overall weekly coverage is fairly high so they can chase and surpass BG easily enough. That is, assuming that BG didn’t get some major guild infusion.

I wouldn’t bet on SoS dropping to T2 until Thursday night.

SoS has never been stacked, we always had 1 map close to empty and 1 half full. BG brought in 3 big guilds this week, and JQ around 13 major guilds.
The competition is not possible for SoS now and our numbers can not compete with those of the recruit servers.
Gonna be a borefest for JQ for the next forever when the transfer locks hit on Monday. They overkilled it, simple as that. All they needed was a couple solid guilds, not 13+
HoD 2.0 just like prx said on their internal forums that they were going to create, they dislike competition only winning no matter the costs.

How many guilds did SoS bring in? I can think of several, but I am no expert.

We brought in 1 asian guild and 1 european guild, both timezones we had zero guilds in prior to these 2. So now we have 1 guild covering each timezone.

Kirbyprime.2645:

Problem is, their overall weekly coverage is fairly high so they can chase and surpass BG easily enough. That is, assuming that BG didn’t get some major guild infusion.

I wouldn’t bet on SoS dropping to T2 until Thursday night.

SoS has never been stacked, we always had 1 map close to empty and 1 half full. BG brought in 3 big guilds this week, and JQ around 13 major guilds.
The competition is not possible for SoS now and our numbers can not compete with those of the recruit servers.
Gonna be a borefest for JQ for the next forever when the transfer locks hit on Monday. They overkilled it, simple as that. All they needed was a couple solid guilds, not 13+
HoD 2.0 just like prx said on their internal forums that they were going to create, they dislike competition only winning no matter the costs.

Wiredgunslinger.5480:

LOL are JQ really still trying to pretend SoS have the numbers? It’s only going to get worse as the week goes on. SoS tried to tell you we didn’t have the numbers..what we had was folks who were willing to put in a lot of hours. So stacking a server with 13 new guilds while we added 1 while our recruitment threads were getting trolled combined with a couple main commanders getting burned out and voila. Only a matter of time were down to T2 which could be fast.

Yep couldnt agree more. This thing gets locked on Monday too, and if its just 150 JQ every map, i can see it being very very bad for gw2 and anyone who enjoys competitive WvW in tier 1. That goes for JQ also not just the opponents, just look at how HoD got bored.
JQ are not showing that they are better, they are showing that they can outnumber us to the Win.