Guild Wars 2

Orpheal.8263:

But that its an optional thing and not for free, I guess, thats the only real problem that you have here.

You expected the Wardrobe System to be some kind of free massive game improvement, that you don’t need to use somethign also like Transmutation Charges and due to this i guess, its natural that people are disappointed, when they enter the table already from begin on with false expectations, or simply said, just expect too much.

Egh, you blind fanbois make me cringe.

I’ve spent hundreds upon hundreds of € on Guild Wars 2, I have all bank tabs unlocked, 12 characters slots (all with all bag slots unlocked), bought pretty much every armor skin on the gem store, unlimited gathering tools, etc…
I work, I’m relatively well paid, and I don’t mind putting my money on a hobby I enjoy at all.
Have I earned the right to voice my dissatisfaction with a feature Anet is implementing yet for you? Do I need to spend more perhaps?

“hurr guild wars 2 isn’t free durr!”

No kitten… in fact, if you want a hassle free experience with the same sort of freedoms you see in other subscription based MMO’s it’s in fact ALOT MORE expensive than a subscription based MMO.

Tell you what, I’ll GLADLY pay 15€ which is 20 dollars a month for a wardrobe where I can store armors that I have crafted or gathered, or for a wardrobe that I can store skins and freely apply them whenever I want with unlimited uses, forever. And to have the other “gemstore” game limitations lifted.

Got the gifts in the mail, thank you.
I hope the issue is fixed so more people don’t fall into the same bug :/

mcgriddles.2416:

What is the likelihood that I am going to get these things back..? I have spent a ridiculous amount of money on the gem store whether it was to buy items or to convert gems to gold. To see it all gone is so upsetting and disheartening.

Not very likely I’d say. You’re not supposed to have other people accessing your account (as in giving them your details).

My sister deleted a character I had (lvl 80) by mistake and support basically said “Tough luck” and rightly so.

Mindtrick.5190:

This bug happens and is so well timed it feels fake.

hehe I know right? Boggles the mind.

Mindtrick.5190:

Of course it would bug when I need it and it looks like the fix will take awhile. With the copy and paste replies. I’ve got no faith it will be fixed this week, timing is everything and it’s fubar right now.

I’ll bet you they already have a fix for this but are waiting for the March 4th update to implement it along with all the other content of the patch for convenience sake. :/

My first legendary that I spent literally months grinding towards… and now stopped in its final tracks because of a bug that refuses to get hotfixed How anti-climatic.

JUN YANG.4328:

i waited for 4 days already. some of us wait a week..

A week??!
That’s odd. Maybe they’re putting this on the backburner or waiting for the regular patch cycle instead of hotfixing it?
A bug as serious as this should not take a week to fix in any game :/
And Im usually not one to want to rush things along.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Hey you guys! Please give me ticket numbers!

Here’s mine 395124 – same deal… got every thing 100%, got the title, and no reward (aka gift of exploration which is why we all do it hehe)

Same problem – have everything at 100% since last night. Got the title etc… no reward.

Revisiting the cities and walking around the chantry of secrets didn’t help.

Female Sylvari doing combo fields/blasts
“Impressive combination of skills!”

reikken.4961:

there’s been a fair bit of talking past each other here
so

Everyone complaining about Elementalist is talking about PvP

Yes, Ele is fine and not underrepresented in PvE

Isn’t every class “fine” in PvE though? I mean, some classes are obviously faster farmers than others, or more resilient, but you can take any class in the game without any traits and white gear and still kill the hardest mobs and complete dungeons.
Balance (which is by definition between classes) is much more easily observed in an environment where the different classes actually (yep, you got it) fight between eachother.

There were zero eles at PAX – zero eles at MLG, in tpvp you barely see any eles. That speaks for itself.

JMadFour.9730:

that’s the correct way to play this game?

No.

I only really took Bifrost since I do alot of instances and I love the staff gameplay. (also probably helps that I seem to be the only player that likes the look of the Bifrost)
I only really go D/D and S/D for PvP and since the ele is slightly broken in that regard I never really felt the need to go through the motions to get a legendary on a weapon I’ll take little use of.

All you guys in this thread saying ele is fine…
Take a look at the last two “big” tournaments Guild Wars 2 was in, PAX and MLG. You know how many eles were in there competing at top level? I bet you don’t because if you did you’d realize how stupid you all sound.

Answer is zero.

I agree, it feels quite powerful. The charge up time, the sound, it all comes together at the end for that extremely satisfying boom… and then you realize you didn’t hit anyone.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Elementalists have the strongest pve auto-attack in the entire game. It outdamages every single other auto-attack and still applies aoe blinds and blast finishers.

Unfortunately, some elementalist players in this forum are unable to be constructive, so instead of discussing any new buffs, they reply with nothing but negativity. It gets tiresome after a while. I know it’s much easier to stay at the confort zone and play the victim card than learning to play a hard-to-master profession. And I know that the elementalist has several design/ balance problems too (btw, it’s not the only profession suffering from that).

I’m not sure if conjure axe’s buffs will make it viable, but they are worth considering. The buffs to other conjures will be harder to predict, in my opinion, until we can test them out.

I remember you in these forums from around release date…
I refuse to believe that someone that’s played ele since the start and has been visiting these forums for a year, still thinks our ideas, sugestions and complaints about the class are useful in the slightest.
I mean, Anet hasn’t even acknowledged eles have some balancing problems, let alone have a healthy discussion on how to improve it….

The negativity you see here isn’t cuz people are negative… it’s just lost hope.

I still do loads of hotjoins, just for fun and pass the time really.
I still tinker with builds and different gears. Mainly stuck with D/D because I just enjoy it, and for all the shortcomings of the ele, I find the cheese scepter fresh air builds to be unfair for the enemy.

As for playing competitively – no point with an ele.

mjharrison.3209:

sPVP isn’t unpopular because it’s hard, it’s unpopular because it sucks.

This pretty much.

Cond spam, and the unbalance between classes pretty much takes GW2 out of any “serious pvp” discussion. e.g – eles anyone?

It’s not by coincidence that most top players have left now for greener pastures. GW2 pvp is a joke on the competitive side.
WvW is still bloody good for laughs. That’s where “it’s” at, sorry to inform.

You folks still believe eles are gonna get balanced while you’re still interested in this game? I’m guessing we’re talking about sPvP here?
It’s been over a year now and the elementalist is actually worse off than it was at launch, which if you exclude the fact that we could bunker all day long, and still not kill anything with a clue, it was in a pretty sorry state.

Just seriously… give it up, we’ve had near zero dev communication on the elementalist situation, not even an acknowledgement that there is a problem.
Accept you’re playing a broken class that will stay like that for a very long time, re-roll or quit. Those are the three choices available to elementalist players.

Demonts.4593:

Elementalist really is not underpowered. Its just hard to play and there are some other builds that are just over the top. A good ele can kill most players.

hehe there’s always a couple of you in every thread aren’t there?
Why can’t you folks see past your own belly button and understand what underpowered means before typing a comment?

I can do pretty well with my ele too, I’ve been playing it since release day – still I fully understand how it can be a daunting class for perhaps more casual players, and compared to quite alot of other classes, be it in PvE or sPvP, elementalists are rubbish.

Being able to be successful with a class, does not make it balanced. In the slightest.

Wow really? I was probably still chewing on my toys and clapping and laughing when some made a face at me at that age ^^

Daecollo.9578:

All I see is doom and gloom, no ideas to actually make the class better.

You must not have been an ele since release, because since then this forum has had a huge ammount of sugested fixes, ideas, debates, constructive complaints about very real issues, and just general talk about the poor state of the ele and what could be done to improve it.
It’s been a year and not one thing has been commented on by devs or EVEN acknowledged as a problem.
Most folks just said “**** it, I’m going home”.

If you really want to play elementalist, forget that there’s any PvP in this game. Play PvE and you’ll be happier for it.
Eles are still in a good / okay spot for PvE, so go have fun with that.
Just abandon all hope that the ele will eventually get balanced for PvP, it won’t. It would require radical changes that I’m sure no company would be willing to take out of beta stages.

Also, all this talk of eles being OP in the past – you are delusional.
Eles were OP bunkers, couldn’t die even with 2 folks hammering on them – BUT we wouldn’t kill anyone that had the slightest clue what they were doing either. Was that fine? No, but it certaily wasn’t the faceroll necro, ranger, warr that we have/had for months now.

silvermember.8941:

Besides if we QQ enough I am sure we can get a developer response.

lol
You funny person you!

Ele is at the bottom of the food chain, and we’re gonna keep being there. Nothing new here.
I’ll say one thing though, this is probably the most unbalanced MMO I’ve ever played. Both in power level between classes and regarding the ammount of time it takes developers to fix the problem.

Kuthos.9623:

You will get owned against any good thief with staff. If you’re not having troubles then you’re facing reaaaaally bad thieves. Staff is horrible at dueling.

Huh… What?

In PvP I mostly run Scepter/Dagger – but for giggles, I sometimes spec full bunker staff – let me tell you, it’s probably the most OP combo elementalists have at the moment.

Nothing at all will kill you in a 1v1 – and still difficult to die in a 1v2, unless your enemies really know what they are doing and prevent you from comboing your water fields.
And although your DPS will be crap – it can be quite sustained and will creep up on your enemies slowly but surely.

Burst classes/builds in particular (aka thieves) have absolutely no chance against a bunker staff ele.

Glyph of Elementals is actually a pretty good skill.

Water Elemental for PvP especially. AoE healing and AoE chill? Very handy for those harder 1v1s

The rest of our elites – not even worth unlocking in all honesty.

oflow.2157:

Seriously you guys might be great elementalists but that doesnt mean this profession isnt lacking. It has nothing to do with the ‘difficulty of the class’ its just that the overall design is pretty bad.

Not saying you cant do well with the class, but denying the class needs work is kind of a stretch as well.

hehe don’t mind them – it’s always the same 4, 5 people coming into elementalist threads claiming they are made of pure awesome and elementalist is completely fine, or even overpowered.

Happens every time in every MMO, when a class is deemed under-powered by pretty much everyone (including other classes) the atention seekers come in with their thirsting egos, looking to impress the masses.
Meanwhile, no real proof is provided apart from “I’m awesome, you’re not, L2P!”, no videos, explanations, not even simple theory-crafting.
(you’ll see the occasional cherry picked video of sPvP fighting clueless opponents and claiming “pwnage” or the usual WvW video of lvl 80 exotic eles fighting droves of kitten lowbies though)

I can solo Orr just fine and dandy, even large groups with a bronze or 2 in the middle can be doable, I can sPvP just fine in my bunker build, I’m resilient as hell, and my damage, though low by other classes standards will sneak up on ya, I can go on WvW and open a can of whoop*** on the enemy zerg at a whim – yet, having played other classes as well, I can make the informed and objective claim that the elementalist is in reality a very underpowered class – it is still, my favorite though

“what ele defenders don’t realize, is if the other classes learned to play with half the skill eles do, they would rofl stomp us every kittenime. but they don’t need to in most cases to rofl stomp us already.”

Pretty much yes…

I just finished getting my warrior to 80 – it was a breeze leveling it, specially the water combat compared to elementalist left me completely stupified… spear 2 and 5 will kill ANYthing under water immediately and it’s AoE.

Decided to go farm abit in Orr and all I can do is “lol” as I gather 6 or 7 random crap in front of me and let the auto-attack deal with it before I lose 50%.

Or if I’m feeling like going at it abit, I can use all the skills and not even go below 90%.

The difference in efficiency vs damage vs survival is not a small one, it is indeed MASSIVE in ways I never would have expected before I leveled my warrior. It’s simply mind boggling.

A staff elementalist in power/precision in sPvP? Huh… What?!

That particular combo will not have much of a chance against most of the lower echelon classes (even if well played), let alone thieves.

Conditions are too easy to remove / have removed.

I’m water specced – as are most other pvp elementalists out there – and by simply taking 2 traits in that line you render every condition based class / spec out there useless, and that’s not even mentioning any condition removal skills.

Any decent player will get conditions off of them as soon as anything reaches threatning levels – and the other players that actually let conditions run their course… well, you can kill those with pure direct damage just as easily.

My wishlist?

More than one viable trait build…
Useful weapon conjures
Alot more damage on the skills that are extremely difficult to land (E.g Flame Tooth)
Air as a proper single target damage attunement
More options for Staff in PvP other than a full staff bunker build (which is OP and should get nerfed) or staying somewhere hoping not to be targetted (no balanced class/weapon should have to be praying for this)

Why not? Because most Fire traits are useless, most Air traits are useless – you will be considerably kittening yourself by going anything but bunker build as an ele at the moment, and that has been one of the major concerns of this class since release.

Like Furienify said, full glass cannon can still work provided you stay OUT of any real fighting like small group WvW action and tPvP – you will have to blend in with the crowd and never be targetted – which to me is a workaround to a flaw rather than a gameplay feature.
You will still do less damage than many other classes specced for DPS and have about half their survivability – if you’re D/D or S/D and you get caught on a simple 1v1 or 1v2 with proper players, your only solution is to mistform or RTL out of there, if those fail due to CD or bugs – there is nothing you can do.
Which is where the ele fails – regardless of spec, you should have a fighting chance, and you simply don’t as a glass cannon ele against 1 or 2 decent players (they dont even have to be good)

You are obviously wrong – elementalists don’t need falling damage reduction traits like everyone else because we are more complex, if you change attunements while you fall you will succeed!

Only bad players die to fall damage, if this happens to you, you should go play a warrior cuz that is easier!
If elementalists had a trait to reduce fall damage we would be completely overpowered, and all the top tPvP teams would realize this!
Is that what you want?

Not only that, after months of practice with the elementalist, (which is the only way you will get good at this class) I’m starting to realize that even not having a reduce fall damage trait is overpowered… so they should somehow nerf that.

Okay, I think I covered all the fanboi bases /end sarcasm

- Yeah it’s pretty silly we don’t have such a trait, but even if we did it would probably require us to be in a particular attunement to work with no other effect other than reducing the fall damage itself hehe

Imo what needs to hapkitten quite clear. At least regarding pvp.

Our bunker builds need to be nerfed. If I spec full bunker even against 2 good players, I won’t die, ever. Unless I royally screw up. I won’t be killing them either, it’s just a game of who “gives up” first.

I’m a scepter/dagger player mostly, so I might be biased in saying that’s our weapon combo that needs the most help – especially in the damage department.
Flame tooth will not hit anyone, and in the off chance that it does, it provides pathetic damage vs the difficulty of actually landing it.
Phoenix falls into the “awesome” department due to the cleansing it provides, however it can only be used as a melee range spell due to how slow it travels (and again, quite subpar damage compared to other classes)
And I could go on and on – with the obvious culprit being the low damage.

Elementalists need to have their survivability reduced in full tank specs and at the same time they need to have their survivability increased in full offensive specs.

Not only that the damage in our full tank specs should be slightly increased to acompany the survivability nerf, and the damage in our full offensive specs needs to be massively increased, for it to be worth taking.

Red Falcon.8257:

Curious, my gf steamrolls people in WvW with S/P condition build.

You’re playing the ele like a wow mage, aka “OLOL I hit randum butonz n stoof goes liek boom! hohoho im such a pr0 MMO player ololol”.
If you wanted ezmode you should have rolled a ranger not an ele.

GW2 just showed you how bad you really are at games that require skill rather than gear.
You can either l2p and become an actually good PvPer or sit with the complaining crowd and blame it on the class, make your choice and queue up.

I’m not sure who you are replying to (I’m guessing the OP), but was the nerdy hostility really necessary?

So far we’ve seen that Anet will do what Anet wants to do.

So it’s pretty pointless trying to state as fact that “Elementalists only need A or only need B”

My opinion is that elementalists will require more than bug fixing.
Alot of people mention RTL bug as really important, yet I feel the complete opposite.
It bugs alot sure – but most of the time the enemy is just as confuzzled by it as we are.

What we need in my eyes is a buff to our offensive spells (the ones that are hard to hit) such as flame tooth, firegrab etc, cuz lets face it, if a guy is silly enough to stand there in a flame tooth till it hits, he should pay for it… you know, kinda like how I “pay” for it if I stand on a quickness HB?
and a buff to our defensive skills / traits, so a glass cannon spec can have more survival than 2 seconds after random guy looks at us funny.

It’s not that I don’t disagree with a nerf to whirlpool, but I find it “kitten” funny that regarding hundred blades the usual answer on the forums is “Dodge /break stun and move, if you get hit by it its your own fault”
Regarding the insane thieves burst “Break stun, use all your attunements, CC, dodge, only baddies die to thieves”

But when we talk about whirlpool, a skill that despite its damage had other severe drawbacks it’s “yeh it was OP, good thing it was nerfed…” lol

I liek these here forums!

It’s in our bug thread I think… either the tooltip is wrong or the damage is wrong…

Who cares really – we’re probably get get Glyph of Elementals nerfed as the next patch only reference to elementalists

Basically, if you’ve met an AT/HS /haste/PW spammers (the FotM rerollers) without a clue you have a fair chance to win, but you’ll have to perform flawlessly and be specced correctly (water/earth/arcana).

If you’ve met an experienced/good player playing thief, and you’re using a staff, regardless of spec and cantrips, you have absolutely zero/nada/niente chance to win.

I think at this point the only thing we can probably ask is Glyph of Renewal can be moved to our “elite” slot.

That way, all our useless crap can be sorted together for ease of access.

Maybe make the glyph of elementals elite a slightly different color since there are some uses for it.

On a more serious note, the only real way to fix it would be to make it instant (and even then, it would still probably be a waste of a skill slot, since you can accomplish the same thing quicker by just myst form rezzing), or just bring it back to the old form where it actually rezzes dead people.

Maybe with some limitations, remove the attunement dependent stuff, and just make it a simple PB single target rezz…
I dunno, it was a such a “situational” skill before it was “fixed” that pretty much no serious elementalist actually ran it in the skill bar, now it’s just…. sigh

I don’t understand this thread…

From what I read – You feel the class on its own is “ok”, but when compared to the other classes it falls short?

And that this is somehow -your- fault and not the class itself?

If this is indeed the point you are trying to put across, all you need to do to get your answer is read other topics in this here “Elementalist forum”.

You guys going full bezerker – how’s your PvE farming? (honest question)

It’s obvious he didn’t kill an Undead Giant in 15-20 seconds…

He’s lying to support his case, just like alot of the “Elementalists are fine” people in this very forum. It’s a wounded ego thing, and you should just nod your head and move away because it’ll just start an argument that neither can win.

Slightly below 40% crit chance (38% without fire glyph if memory serves me correctly)
This is the happy medium I use between damage and survivability.
Crits often enough to proc quickness – pretty much every other hit.
Nearly 1500 Toughness
Slightly above 14k HP
Power at 2k plus change.

That’s a mix of Valkyrie, Knight and Zerker and a couple karma pieces – full exotics ofcourse, including accessories

(I didn’t roll an elementalist to play a tank – but I didn’t roll an elementalist to be steamrolled in 3 hits, which is what happens in pvp if you go full out on glass cannon)

It’s one of the good spells in staff for PvE, but sadly useless in PvP – good damage, finisher and 6 bleeds on it.
(it can sometimes hit distracted people on keep walls, but that’s about as useful as it gets)

Which sort of worries me, since S/D needs just as much help as D/D – still any buff would be appreciated I suppose.

Harmadda.5971:

TransparentlyOpaque.1824:

Sharpe.1485:

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say he was on an elementalist :p

Agreed.

Whats wrong with admitting your playing an elementalist?

Did you watch the FIRST video link posted in the thread?

Guess not.
If you did you’d see that move done on a Thief, Warrior, Ranger, Elementalist, Necro…

So no.
You’re wrong if you think this is solely an Elementalist problem.
Even if it were that doesn’t remove the “cheapness” from the move.

Here it is again.
Watch carefully:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-udk3CEtc7E
- H

There’s no need to get your panties in a twist – was simply making an educated guess seeing as alot of people still spec their elementalist as a glass cannon, in a class that has no cannon – and this sort of occurrence is quite frequent on those sort of specs/gearing options.

But yes, thief burst is a universal problem. So I’m actually agreeing with you, no need to get your flamethrower out :P

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say he was on an elementalist :p

I’m with ya Windowlicker – leveling some alts right now and hoping I enjoy one of them enough to become my “main” eventually.

But with X-Com coming out in a couple days I don’t see myself coming back to Guild Wars 2 for a while – hopefully the elementalist will get some love by then.

Cluisanna.1360:

Ok, so I am level 44 on my ele and am dying like hell. I play staff and have so far all my points in Fire and Air. I know that makes me a huge glass cannon, but I change attunements all the time, keep all my defensive and cc skills on cd, dodge, circle strafe and so on.
However, I still die. A lot. Usually because of one of these things – either the mob I am attacking is ranged or can stun/cripple/immobilize me – but that isn’t the main problem; or, and this is the reason of 95% of my deaths, because of dodging or kiting and pulling other mobs who I can’t all cc, and some of them getting to me.
I thought that you were either supposed to go into earth/water and don’t have to kite as much, but do less damage, or go into fire/air and do more damage, but also have to kite more, and I like kiting, so I chose to be a glass cannon – however, how are you supposed to play that way when mobs are so close together and even a single one a) hits like a bulldozer and b) takes sooo long to down?
I have a thief on 80 and I know it only gets harder, so how on earth am I supposed to do that?

I know people use this line alot for trolling purposes, but I’m being serious – you’re not doing anything wrong, it’s the class that’s broken. :p
Elementalists cannot glass cannon at their current state – simply because we get no “cannon”, regardless of spec. You either go with an even spread (I use 10,10,10,10,30, in pve) or a full tanky/heal build.

Apart from that, check the usual suspects –
Updated gear?
Using all your skills at the right moment?
Biting more than you can chew?
Using staff in solo pve – just don’t…
etc…