Guild Wars 2

Buying the game and playing it for 1700 hours.

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LucosTheDutch.4819:

Ah, the good old “vanilla was better” thread. I knew it was gonna pop up eventually.

While GW2 currently is not without flaws, it is miles better than vanilla in every possible conceivable way. At least in my opinion.

In vanilla I was utterly bored the moment I reached level 80. Grinding for legendaries was more of a pain back then. WvW has always been bad and meaningless, not to mention unrewarding, especially in vanilla. PvP in vanilla was also very unrewarding. Dungeons were very unrewarding in vanilla as well, even though it was the most lucrative part of GW2’s end-game.

Besides dungeons, WvW and PvP, there was no end-game in GW2, no meaningful end-game and no rewarding end-game besides dungeons. Worst of all, there was no guild content at all, which was the reason GW2 vanilla did so poorly financially. People grew bored and quit playing GW2 en masse. Only the biggest fanboys or people too poor to afford a WoW subscription stayed.

Right now we have a ton of end-game content. Like, A TON. There is SO MUCH to do. We get 2 raid wings each year on average (which is not much but better than no raids on average). We get 2 new fractals each year on average. We have PvP seasons and tournaments for everyone now. And we get a new map + story chapter every 2 months! Something we could only dream of back in vanilla!

Oh, and lets not even start about the zerker meta, which was even more prevalent and much more broken in vanilla than current GW2.

I really do think that people tend to look at old games or older versions of games with rose-tinted classes.

I am going to disagree with you there. Back in vanilla there was gear progression. Gold came by way harder than today. In vanilla you had to do open world events and exploration (Literally the selling point of guild wars 2) to earn gold and karma, so that you can buy gear. Just like in the video i linked 5 gold was 20 pounds worth of gold. Rare was the midgame and exotic high end. Months later ascended came by and the became even more interesting. Everything went downhill with the new dungeon token system. The easier they made things come by, less and less people stayed.

Raine.1394:

Played since before release. Much, much preferred vanilla in most regards, and in terms of builds especially. I remember pulling off interesting hybrids which was great fun. Today we walk in lockstep and anything new added to the game simply becomes the new FOTM. It was fun designing builds back in the day.

I think about the changes in terms of a great conspiracy. (Here read The Stepford Wives if you haven’t read it or seen the movie.) My theory is that the original developers were replaced by surrogates to despoil the grand thing that was GW2 at release. The Stepford developers were all pretty much in place by November 2012.

This makes me sad.

Yolanda Hardass.8045:

Will PoF be available on a hard copy (DVD)?

Anet is going downhill, HoT didn’t sell close as match as they thought so no retail this time.

Remember back in vanilla were traits were more complex and you had a long variety of playthroughs. There was even gear progression and gold came by harder.

Old vanilla Guild Wars 2 : https://youtu.be/AVpjtJnWnXo?t=595

Back then you would kill a mob because you need the mats, right now mobs are just a nuisance to just make you go slower. Right now Traits are simplistic and too linear, even the raids are forcing you to play exact builds or you are worthless.

What the heck happened to you Guild Wars? Casul illness ?

Guardians new Spec:

Literally old Guardians Elite skills

Revenants new Spec:

Literally old Warriors Longbow skills

So i guess yes?

Ardid.7203:

Fractured.3928:

Am I the only person who really liked HoTs? I thought it was unique, gorgeous, and the map wide events were fantastic. Also gliding was more fun than I thought it would be.

Tangled Depths is still hell though.

Far from being alone. HoT is a superb work of game art and systems, with poor marketing and worse content delivery timing giving it a bad image.

I, personally, just love gliding, the NPC stories, the challenging foes and the Maguuma Jungle. It is gorgeous: Verdant Brink is for me the best MMORPG map ever made, period. The elite specs and masteries mechanics were more hit and miss for me, but they are great mechanics and an a truly creative way to solve the problem of character progression.

So far, PoF is way more lacking to me. I’m sure I’ll buy it eventually, because I love GW2, but mounts, hypertrofied maps and GW1 nostalgia are not my cup of tea.

HoT was a piece of garbage. All it gave us was ugly jungle maps, that we skimmed over, ruined fractals and removed dungeons. HoT was the biggest plague of an expansion. It had 0 gear progression and made everything unrewarding and tedious.

I bought the Primeval Armor way back in 2013 and when the new wardrobe system got introduced i lost the armor set from my wardrobe. I have the history from when i bought yet Costumer Service chose to ignore my request to unlock me my primeval armor set.

Nice marketing tactic. Not gonna buy again, i will make sure of that.

TheGrimm.5624:

This is an older article but if you take a movie as fixed content where as games no longer are its even more impact-full:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/05/film-and-tv-streaming-and-downloads-overtake-dvd-sales-for-first-time-netflix-amazon-uk

Good you posted a really good reason to support net netraulity just now. Buy digital tax-free merch so that Anet gets the cash.

Klipso.8653:

If we start a jump on a mount, will we be able to swap to our glider mid-air? Or will we need to complete the jump on the mount?

Top kek not even close. You see the mounts are using already existing mechanics so it won’t be like Tera, WoW or Black Desert. You won’t have shortcuts or have to treat your mount. No, you ll just press double click on the icon in your inventory and voila! You are on your mount!

harris.7964:

Has anyone found any clues or anything as to if there will be any new progression for the Guilds apart from claiming a new Guild Hall?Will there be more amentities in the Guild Hall?New missions?New upgrades?Features?

Yes! More decorations, more stuff that means absolutely nothing to your guild! Aren’t you happy to have another monument? Aren’t you enjoying the time you wasted on your guild hall! Well I am and i can not wait for the next decoration bundle!

John.8507:

What do you mean no progression? There is 5 new maps to explore, new mastery lines, weapons, armours, and everything to collect.

The Mastery system is progression, and the elite skill specs to unlock.

Feels like you missed half of the paragraph where i am saying “Unrewarding redundant stuff”. Not gonna play another 300 hours to be look good than get good.

Randulf.7614:

This has nothing to do with sales figures, it is just the general direction of the industry moving towards an ever greater level of digitalisation. The amount of sales likely lost from a lack of box sales is probably very few. Having worked in games retail, boxed expansions rarely sell well and retailers usually get fed up of leftover stock anyway.

As to the other comments, some of you guys want new mechanics and new progressions and many people want the company steer away from that very concept. Anet can’t please both camps, they have to make the decision based on the feedback and metrics we don’t see. I don’t like a lot of things that have been added or missed over the last few years, but it is way to early to criticise an expakittenil at least we get to play it.

First of all retail sales doesn’t work like that. World of Warcraft sells mostly only retail because fans want to keep the boxes of their favorite mmo franchise. For example i will not buy digital because it doesn’t feel right.

On you second paragraph you are mentioning that Anet can’t chose both camps. That is fales since FFXVI is doing just fine with both adding casul content and hardcore with gear progression. If Anet continues like this Guild Wars 2 will become like Asheron’s Call and die in 5 years from now.

Out of 150 online friends in gw2 only 3 of them are online. My old guild is the same as well but 300 people have years to log in. If that doesn’t tell you anything, you are in denial. Not you specifically but anyone who thinks like this.

Hannelore.8153:

They intentionally spent all of this time building systems that they could reuse so that they could churn out content quickly and effectively instead of always fumbling around like Zhaitan’s undead on the shores of Orr.

Those “old” things were removed because they didn’t work too well, so that they could be added back in at a later date when they were fixed!

I have no problem using old assets.

But for god sake, add a new mechanic! Something new! It is a new expansion! Even the glider used already existed mechanics! Not even the ley line mastery made any difference!

Well if that isn’t a big slap to the people who think the game is still alive!

No retail means that their last expansion didn’t sell as much as they thought, which is obvious due to the lack of rewarding content!

The new expansion was a bigger slap in the face, with the biggest joke revenant using old warriors longbow skills and guardians old tomes. All i saw in the trailers was same, redundant assets. Not even new mechanics to embrace gameplay(Because we don’t want to get the casuls out of their comfort zone and earn something new), even the mounts seemed like the zephyrite fiasco all over(with the crystals 1,2,3,4 abilities on skillbar).

Pretty disappointed, i thought they were going to turn this around, but instead they just reuse old concepts to get quick cash.

Quiet sad and disappointed reveal. I bought HoT without hesitation, but this one i’ll just ignore. Even the dev said there would be no progression so that means doing kitten that it isn’t rewarding.

costepj.5120:

I don’t think RNG means what you think it does.

Random Number Generator. It’s being used on every MMO game.

Don’t make statements you can’t support.

Here i am with 1500 hours of gameplay and still haven’t gotten a precursor nor anything of real value. Yet a friend of mine just started with trial and got a precursor drop. I have over 160% passive magic find and he had kittenin 0 yet he got it by a champ bag!

After doing research there is literally a whole subject on “lucky characters”.

Fix your RNG Anet. Oh and add casuls worst nightmare. G E A R P R O G R E S S I O N

Fractals are boring and repitive. We have over 10 dungeons with 3 different paths each, and we still do the same kittening fractals over and over again. Let’s be honest no one does dungeons anymore, because it is not worth it.

What if the game wasn’t a casul fest?

It would be a good game.

IndigoSundown.5419:

If dungeon content is ever to be modified again, which I doubt, it might be more likely that some encounters would make their way in as fractals.

I wouldn’t mind if they ended add as fractals, fractals are boring and repetitive. It is wasted content right now, i don’t know why they chose to nerf the rewards.

And you can get ascended stuff everywhere even on the new maps. Getting ascended right now in gw2 is a meme.

I have an idea, probably plenty of you already thought of it as well.

My idea is to leave the rewards of the dungeons as it is BUT add an extra difficulty like “Veteran” , were the dungeon has extra mechanics(examble high level fractals).
Or you can go an extra mile and change the boss fights. There you give 1 token for every Vet dungeon cleared to use on some ascended equipment.

Vet dungeons would be like raids but with 5 people. It is sad to see this content go, and new players not experience zhaitans dungeon paths or Aetherblade path.

Hard but rewarding.

In any other game weapons have a name. But in Guild Wars 2 they mean nothing. Just another skin. With enough cash you can get enough gems to buy gold for everything you need.

So no need to come up with your memes “Muh legendary is hard”.
The game is on decline, after failing at China NCsoft have completly abandoned GW2/Anet from expanding further to NK and JP.

This game had a good concept, but didn’t deliver.

So the game is plagued by casuals who want to downgrade this game to a fashion contest. This actually quiet sad.

armaduras.8972:

I really hope not. I have 4,300 hours logged into the game currently with five sets of ascended and five legendary weapons. I am more than happy with the gear provided.. and it would appear that the model would be for new stat sets rather than armor sets. I wouldn’t be surprised if we get the ability to ‘Bless’ Ascended armor too.

Every tier of gear you add to GW2 only increases the stress on inpatient new people… and new players really are impatient. I’ve personally watched over twenty people join our guild, play the game for one to three months, progressively, and then simply quit once they start researching the time needed for ascended gear. Everyone wants the best, even if it isn’t needed. Legendary armor is going to be more than enough of a blunder in the same regard.

Yes but you also push away the people who wants this stuff. From my 60 in game friends and 30 followers only 3-4 are online. Also games such as BDO and BnS seem to have stolen lot’s of people from GW2 because it felt a “Waste of time” or rather “Too casual for me”. The more you restrict the people the easier the get bored.

Also it’s a MMORPG game. There is no MMORPG without some type of grinding or gear progression. It was fun till i reached 1600 hours and completed everything.

It all goes back in the box, and move on a diffrent game?

To be honest i saw the new expansion leak and it was amazing. But now i am wondering if it’s worth that much.

After 1.600 hours into the game, getting full ascended builds on ever char, i find myself having no motivation to play any further. Now i play GW2 every now and then (once or twice every month/3-months).

There is nothing to do in the game anymore. There is no gear progression and doing fractals or raids does not feel rewarding at all. Removing the dungeons was also removing a big part of content and variety of the game. I find myself getting bored from doing the same stuff over and over again. It feels mundane.

Back in vanilla gw2, you had to go through masterwork>rare>exotic, but now you instantly jump to exotic.

Everything gives you ascended, whether it is fractals,raids,word bosses.

And now the game ended up being a fashion contest game, with only purpose of “Looking good” rather “Getting Good”.

Hope with the new expansion we will see a new gear progression system that feels rewarding and hard at the same time. Rewarding and easy is never good.

Wow bloody wow dude. its 40% off. That alone said to me that you are dumping 100$ in gems transmuting them to gold to get a precrusor easily. Normal players don’t buy off stuff from TP they kinda farm some of these first. But yeah. Anets system is imbalanced why not exploit it?

Seera.5916:

Shortage.5427:

Seera.5916:

Shortage.5427:

Seera.5916:

And who says mentors can’t be mentors in level 80 zones?

I’d say, if you’ve got a mentor tag up in any zone, you’re asking to be asked for help with hero challenges or events. So start bugging those with mentor tags for help with events and hero challenges. Make them realize that the mentor tag isn’t the poor man’s commander’s tag.

Dude thats the problem here. They dont use Mentor Tags for helping new players. They are using them as hurr “Free Commandership” durr.

But you don’t know that, right? For all you know, they’re a legit mentor. So treat them as such.

Okay i ll give it to you in simpler words

Commander Tag Commanding
Mentor Tag Mentoring

Simple as that

You’re not getting what I’m saying.

If you see someone with a mentor tag up. Treat them like a mentor. Don’t let them turn it into the poor man’s commander tag.

If you see a mentor trying to be a commander when there’s an active commander there, remind others that he’s just a mentor and not a commander and to follow the actual commander. Or ask that he swap to an actual commander tag if he’s going to command.

And for all you know, the mentor is an actual commander and he’s just forgotten to switch to his actual commander tag when he came over to the level 80 zone from a starter zone where he was being a mentor.

Too good to be true. And i actually whispered a mentor to give up his Mentor Tag and to let an actual Commander to do the job and he replied with a rude no. As i was trying to take him a privilege or something.

DoctorDing.5890:

Some of the commander tag snobs in this thread give me the urge to put on a mentor tag and follow them around for a while.

Hating on people because they are using something that IS NOT a commander tag….

Maybe they should ban commander tags in all PVE maps. After all, they were intended for PVP, weren’t they?

I get that the commander tags cost gold. Get over it already.

Looks like someone scrolled over the whole thread and gave his meaningless opinion.
Please read posts then talk. This is a discussion thread, you read and you reply otherwise we lose the whole point of making this type of threads.

Tabootrinket.2631:

Changer the Elder.2948:

Tabootrinket.2631:

I haven’t bought any commander tag, and don’t really intend to.
But I also think that the mentor tags should have way more limitation than thay have now.
Also calling people special snowflake because they spent 300g on they stuff while others can use similar functionality for free is kinda douchie.

Mentorship is supposed to help mentoring people. Which means, it’s supposed to help people that aren’t familiar with the game. There’s ZERO reason to keep those in high level area. By the time people get to lvl60+, they know how to get around in this game.

Really? Ever been to Verdant Brink? People were eager to learn the event mechanics, to find out the tricks and tips to get around to Hero Challenges and all that. Mentors are useful in every zone, when used right. Force people to use them right instead of giving illogical restrictions.

As I said, when you get to lvl80, you know how to find out things for yourself. You don’t get the tutorials hold your hand until the final boss in single player games.
Finding the mechanisms in fights is part of the gameplay in guild wars 2. Do you also expect Anet to distribute a full detailed guide on how to succeed in raids while they release them ?

You need help in Verdant Brink, you just ask. You know how to get your information by the point you attack the expansion.
New players don’t necessarly know how to get their information. And THAT is what the mentor tags are for. Not to hold people’s hand for new content.

Also mentors are supposed to have way more experience than the people they help (that’s what a mentorship is about). I find it illogical to be able to “mentor” people that are just slightly more clueless than you. Masteries are accessible only after lvl80, so having a mentor tag guarantees that you have better understanding of the content than a main lvl10. But you can’t say the same about those who are qualified to enter Verdant Brink.

Sure thing i am all in for commander tags 10k AP here so i don’t mind it even if they put the limit there.

Tabootrinket.2631:

I haven’t bought any commander tag, and don’t really intend to.
But I also think that the mentor tags should have way more limitation than thay have now.
Also calling people special snowflake because they spent 300g on they stuff while others can use similar functionality for free is kinda douchie.

Mentorship is supposed to help mentoring people. Which means, it’s supposed to help people that aren’t familiar with the game. There’s ZERO reason to keep those in high level area. By the time people get to lvl60+, they know how to get around in this game.
(In a single player game, you won’t have tutorials last until the final stage of the final boss fight)

You come to my words man. Also there should atleast be a AP limit. Only experienced people to be able to use Mentor Tags. not every 500 ap newbie.

Seera.5916:

Shortage.5427:

Seera.5916:

And who says mentors can’t be mentors in level 80 zones?

I’d say, if you’ve got a mentor tag up in any zone, you’re asking to be asked for help with hero challenges or events. So start bugging those with mentor tags for help with events and hero challenges. Make them realize that the mentor tag isn’t the poor man’s commander’s tag.

Dude thats the problem here. They dont use Mentor Tags for helping new players. They are using them as hurr “Free Commandership” durr.

But you don’t know that, right? For all you know, they’re a legit mentor. So treat them as such.

Okay i ll give it to you in simpler words

Commander Tag Commanding
Mentor Tag Mentoring

Simple as that

Ranatoa.4869:

Shortage.5427:

Ranatoa.4869:

Shortage.5427:

You do realize that Commander Tags don’t have the squad add on yet. Since they are still fixing it we can’t create squads or use squad chat yet.

How is that relevant? Mentor tags still won’t have access to squads once it is fixed. This isn’t a pro/con, it’s a bug.

The pro is that Commander tags allow access to squads, Mentor tags don’t.

You are losing the whole point of the thread. Mentor tags are making the Commander Tags worthless. They are MENTOR TAGS to help new players and not to be used as Commanding big groups of people to do Tequatl or any big dynamic event. That’s what Commander Tags are for as well as for WvWvW. Mentor tags corrupt/kittenize(use any word you like) Commander Tag’s true goal into the game.

Which is exactly why Mentor tags a) don’t get squads and b) can’t be used in WvW, thus giving Commander tags the advantage when commanding big groups. Which is exactly the point of this thread, and which is exactly what I have said in every post.

Edit: To specifically address your initial concerns…

Commander tags get not only their own chat highlight, they get their own channel (see squads)

Mentor tags don’t get PvE boons, it only affects the 4 other people in your party (not squad), it only works in the five cities, and you get it regardless of having a Mentor tag (they are unlocked by the same mastery line, but that’s where the connection ends).

Holy kitten you lose the whole point of mentor tag. Its as if you don’t even read the posts.

MENTOR TAGS
Are made for mentoring new people instead
They are being used as Commander Tags.

Thats the problem here. When in a region there is a commander tagging, you can’t simply have a Mentor Tag start tagging and over highlight you. Its ridiculous. His kitten job is to help new players not to command. He didn’t even pay 300g for it(hurr it used to be 100g before durr) yeah 2 years ago so that means all commanders know what they are doing.

Seera.5916:

And who says mentors can’t be mentors in level 80 zones?

I’d say, if you’ve got a mentor tag up in any zone, you’re asking to be asked for help with hero challenges or events. So start bugging those with mentor tags for help with events and hero challenges. Make them realize that the mentor tag isn’t the poor man’s commander’s tag.

Dude thats the problem here. They dont use Mentor Tags for helping new players. They are using them as hurr “Free Commandership” durr.

Ranatoa.4869:

Shortage.5427:

You do realize that Commander Tags don’t have the squad add on yet. Since they are still fixing it we can’t create squads or use squad chat yet.

How is that relevant? Mentor tags still won’t have access to squads once it is fixed. This isn’t a pro/con, it’s a bug.

The pro is that Commander tags allow access to squads, Mentor tags don’t.

You are losing the whole point of the thread. Mentor tags are making the Commander Tags worthless. They are MENTOR TAGS to help new players and not to be used as Commanding big groups of people to do Tequatl or any big dynamic event. That’s what Commander Tags are for as well as for WvWvW. Mentor tags corrupt/kittenize(use any word you like) Commander Tag’s true goal into the game.

You do realize that Commander Tags don’t have the squad add on yet. Since they are still fixing it we can’t create squads or use squad chat yet.

Anet i feel i ve been robbed right now. Mont ago i bought my commander tag for 300g and now you give out free “Mentor Tags” ? I mean okay sure but you make these tags better than the actual Commander ones!?

Also they are even more highlighted on the map from the commander ones. They even give speed boosts?!

These fake tags actually harasses Commander tags. It literally kills the whole reason of buying a tag now.Even in chat how come they get an exclusive “Mentor” title and commanders don’t? At least give Commander Tags its own chat to highlight from the rest and a PvE boon that is slightly better than the Mentor Tag.

dronikal.8150:

Since the release of the game i had 1 problem with every patch my fps gets lower and lower on release i didn’t had that problem but after megaserver my fps went to the ground.So the only thing that will probably stop me from buying expansion is the game performance on low end machenes.Im a student and the only thing i can use is Laptop since i have to be out most of the time during the day.Are there any plans for optymising the game for low end machenes?
Laptop specs:
i7-3230QM
GT 740m
6 Gib RAM
1000 Tib HDD 5400 RPM

The only thing that will save you is indeed optimization. I have a gtx 760 with fx 6300 i can play bf4 ultra 60+fps but on this darn game i cant get over 30 fps on wvwvw. They need to optimize the game because as far as i know the hadn’t optimized it since the beta release. I know there is a lot going in ncsoft about some stuff but there are some places where the fps drops are dramatically low and i keep wonder why. In the other hand if you can pay up for i7 then you are good to go. For some reason this game requires Intel power and AMD GPU because they use Havok as their engine. I hope aswel with you for better optimization at the next releases and i can see some difference since the last patch.

Wardrobe in guild wars 2 is the one that tickle me. I mean why would they want to do that? And for the 80 lvl players that we ve seen a thousands of armors? What? are we going to refind them all again? It looks like to me they are trying to fuse PvP and PvE item system. Whats ur opinion?

So from the moment i bought the game and istall it when i opened it and pressed play i had a Black Screen then an error. I send the error multiple times and had no response. So i came to forums. It says VerifyAccess failed or denied access with 0×80070716 – and also it says:

—> Error Logs <—
VerifyAccess failed or denied access with 0×80070716 – 1
WebBrowser: unable to create directory ‘C:\Users\ShortAge\AppData\Local\Temp\gw2cache-{7284D760-8365-17A9-63D7-84726583A917}’, error 2

I hope that helps. I want to play this game!! I also played this game from appdata but now its gone and i cant play it!! HELP Arena net!!

Well. I have 2mbp/s wich is 200klb/s. It took my like 6 hours to download 30% of the game 7,3GB. Then i close it for the night and when i open it, it start all over. Luckily i saw the the downloaded files were decreased from 250k to 170k. Now i downloaded 370MB and its 2%! Mind blown. All that stuff happened today and yesterday! xD. I hope that helps you.

Coclusion?! It doesnt matter how big it is. It matters the files you download.