Guild Wars 2

Xia.3485:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Not making up facts let me log in and get the name so you don’t accuse me of trolling.

Its dubious when you remember prices but not what was being sold.

Heavy Moldy bag, 2 weeks after release I was selling them for 2 silver and some copper and I just sold the last one for 68 copper.

P.S. I never said I didn’t remember your putting words in my mouth. I said I wanted to get the name right!

Xia.3485:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Let me ask you a question, are you even 80 yet? Or are you one of those people under 80 who knows all?

I’ve been 80 for quite a long time now. I’ve crafted three different exotic sets (armor and rings/accessories) for magic find, healing and DPS (precision/crit). Currently farming karma in Orr for the temple sets. Also working on a few dungeon sets. I do not PvP. Eventually I’ll buy the T3 cultural armor.

Gold isn’t an issue in this game. There isn’t any magical recipe to make it either.. no sure fast way. Dungeon running with a solid group is pretty good, 26 silver for a 15 min run + money for selling the drops gives a few gold an hour. Getting UBER lucky with a precursor drop would be like winning the lottery; don’t count on it.

As for becoming wealthy in game… its inevitable with time. So your thread about money being hard to get is.. well.. laughable. Gold was hard to get in the first days of WoW too.. I had 100k when I finally unsubscribed. (And that’s not all that much).

Edit: You still didn’t answer my question: Which item sold for 2 silver and now sells for 60 copper? Or are you just making up facts?

Not making up facts let me log in and get the name so you don’t accuse me of trolling.

Kendu Kuzal.3985:

Maybe I’m not worthy of being a part of this conversation since I don’t have a max level character, but I have over 5 gold pieces at level 39, with no problems equipping myself with gear. I play the Trading Post, and I always use it to sell items that are in demand. Materials are my money ticket. Salvaging and harvesting nodes anytime I see them has built up my bank faster than anything. I don’t even do constant node harvesting. I’m doing map completion, which provides me with gear, coin and experience. I have tons of karma to spend on gear as well. I have found very little need to even spend gold at this point, so I’m just going to save it up til endgame when I do need it. I also do not have a crafting profession currently. Simply adventuring, completing and saving has done the trick so far.

I did say on my original post you will never have any problem buying what you need but you will never be wealthy or rich in this game.

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Thorp.7250:

Soulwatcher.2604:

So you want the item prices to keep going up and you want to make less money to buy the items?

I don’t recall saying that at all.

Prices only go up to a point which people are willing to pay. It is called a relative value.

If you flood the market with gold you inflate prices to unobtainable levels for new players. While it might make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing big numbers it ruins the game.

The cost of crafting materials should always be less than the items they create. It wasn’t like that before.

I never said anything about flooding the market with gold. And its already to the point where is hard for new players to buy items. Anyone trying to buy exotic’s at level 80 today is going to have a very hard time.

no their not, exotics are easy, from lvl1 to lvl80 you gather nodes, ore, plant, trees whatever and you sell it, you will easily get more than enough to buy a full exotic set, so please don’t spout you bullkitten.

Kind of hard to sell materials on the trading post when most of them are the same price or less then a vendor would give you. Or did you not bother check that?

Use those materials to craft your own exotics, or use karma to purchase them. Gold really is a minor currency in the overall scheme in this game. You can have millions of gold and still be unable to buy the Orrian exotics.

I have 530k karma the Orr exotics are junk for a necro.

Oh… you’re one of those people that thinks they need to specialize into certain builds, aren’t you?

I’m using pretty much no more than one piece per vendor in addition to balancing my traits across multiple lines rather than fill a couple to 30. So far there’s nothing I can’t handle being balanced. (Mesmer, btw)

So no, the Orr exotics aren’t junk, you’ve just convinced yourself that they are. In that case, people can still craft exotics quite fine using nominal amounts of gold. You haven’t changed the fact that gold is only one currency in the game, and not the most important one at that.

My necro destroys, so I guess my build must be working!

Based on your evident skill at dodging I’m inclined to believe you.

For give me I was wrong I forgot about all the massive damage healing power gives…….

Dodging of the fact that gold is at best a secondary currency in this game and that it’s not difficult to be decked out in full exotics without having to spend much, if any, at all. As long as you have enough for travel and repairs there’s no limitations that are placed on you for not having a ton of gold.

Oh, and there’s more than damage in this game.

DId you even read my first post? Go back to the first page, I said you can make enough gold to buy what you need but you will never be wealthy or rich.

You’re doing an impressive job at missing the point. You could have a million gold, but you still wouldn’t be wealthy or rich. Gold is only one of many currencies in this game, and certainly not the most important.

I 100% agree with what you said but whats wrong if I want to put the time and effort into making a lot of gold? As the game stands right now you can put all the time in the world into the game and your not going to make a lot of gold.

Xia.3485:

Omega Mayhem.7163:

This thread is a joke, right? It has to be.

The OP is a troll. So yes, its one big messy joke.

I speak the truth and you call me a troll. My god I would hate to see what you call a real troll? Let me ask you a question, are you even 80 yet? Or are you one of those people under 80 who knows all?

diabluz.2860:

Unfortunately it seems as if this game isn’t doing very well with the average MMO gamer. There is a TON of negativity in the MMO community towards this game.

If you bring up Guild Wars 2 in a MMO community you’re swamped with “GW2 blows”, “GW2 sucks” etc. They usually seem to dislike the leveling and say it’s boring, grindy and monotonous. I’ve heard complaints that it’s “not fun” and there’s “no end game”.

Question is how long can this game be supported if the majority of the MMO community sees it as a failure already just a month past release?

I love the game still BUT I know that an MMO is dependent on having a large loyal community if it wants to stay fun and receive constant updates/improvements etc.

It seems that those of us that like this game are vastly outnumbered and the WvW and dynamic events in this game need people to work properly.

Thoughts?

What are you talking about the same 10 people are going to tell you the game is doing great and were the minority.

Xia.3485:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Calling the pot black are we but failing to look in the mirror? Event’s/mobs give crap loot + tons of money sinks in the game. Yah I would say Anet isn’t doing anything!

P.S. your trying to tell me the people running the bots would rather sell to a vendor then on the trading post? Surly they are not that stupid.

You Sir fail at using the forum reply button. You also didn’t read; troll indeed. Events, bosses and chests all drop the same loot essentially… welcome to diablo. However, the quantity you get (and vendor) racks up the gold rather quickly.

People selling items at 1 copper over the vendor prices aren’t bots, they are misinformed players. They actually make less money than vendoring it (don’t forget about the 15% black ion tax). Its far easier for a botter to vendor everything, get gold quickly then sell it for USD to players.

I find it rather amusing that you replied to my single post three times.

Yep my bad and the edit button, I usually don’t bother with these forums. Question how do you think the prices went form 2 silver to 60 copper? What drove the prices down If the bots were selling the item to the vendor for 11 copper? Because we all know all bots would rather have 11 copper then 2 silver.

Soulwatcher.2604:

Xia.3485:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Just admit it I am right, the bots have drove materiel prices to the ground. And now most of them sell on the trading post for the same price or a few copper more then what a vendor will give you.

Its not the bots doing that. We have a loot system more akin to diablo than a traditional MMO. The market is flooded with masterwork and rare items, therefore they have no value.

Since every player can harvest resource nodes and have exp incentives to do so, the price of these materials is lowered significantly (except for T6 since the nodes are rare, and T5 since it can be transmuted to T6). Everyone can craft anything, so prices of crafted gear is close to cost as well.

The only profitable thing to farm is gold itself (drops or sell item drops to vendors) and rare drops (legendary precursors, ecto, T6 blue crafting items, etc). This is most likely where most of your bots are operating. Prices have not rock bottomed like you claim.

I’d also like to point out that your entire thread is meaningless. Its basically asking why it takes a little time to get everything, You’re also pointing your finger left and right trying to create conspiracies (oh noes, arena net is controlling the exchange rate). You also show a complete lack of understanding when it comes to the GW2 economy. In short, you are a troll.

Calling the pot black are we but failing to look in the mirror? Event’s/mobs give crap loot + tons of money sinks in the game. Yah I would say Anet isn’t doing anything!

P.S. your trying to tell me the people running the bots would rather sell to a vendor then on the trading post? Surly they are not that stupid.

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Thorp.7250:

Soulwatcher.2604:

So you want the item prices to keep going up and you want to make less money to buy the items?

I don’t recall saying that at all.

Prices only go up to a point which people are willing to pay. It is called a relative value.

If you flood the market with gold you inflate prices to unobtainable levels for new players. While it might make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing big numbers it ruins the game.

The cost of crafting materials should always be less than the items they create. It wasn’t like that before.

I never said anything about flooding the market with gold. And its already to the point where is hard for new players to buy items. Anyone trying to buy exotic’s at level 80 today is going to have a very hard time.

no their not, exotics are easy, from lvl1 to lvl80 you gather nodes, ore, plant, trees whatever and you sell it, you will easily get more than enough to buy a full exotic set, so please don’t spout you bullkitten.

Kind of hard to sell materials on the trading post when most of them are the same price or less then a vendor would give you. Or did you not bother check that?

Use those materials to craft your own exotics, or use karma to purchase them. Gold really is a minor currency in the overall scheme in this game. You can have millions of gold and still be unable to buy the Orrian exotics.

I have 530k karma the Orr exotics are junk for a necro.

Oh… you’re one of those people that thinks they need to specialize into certain builds, aren’t you?

I’m using pretty much no more than one piece per vendor in addition to balancing my traits across multiple lines rather than fill a couple to 30. So far there’s nothing I can’t handle being balanced. (Mesmer, btw)

So no, the Orr exotics aren’t junk, you’ve just convinced yourself that they are. In that case, people can still craft exotics quite fine using nominal amounts of gold. You haven’t changed the fact that gold is only one currency in the game, and not the most important one at that.

My necro destroys, so I guess my build must be working!

Based on your evident skill at dodging I’m inclined to believe you.

For give me I was wrong I forgot about all the massive damage healing power gives…….

Dodging of the fact that gold is at best a secondary currency in this game and that it’s not difficult to be decked out in full exotics without having to spend much, if any, at all. As long as you have enough for travel and repairs there’s no limitations that are placed on you for not having a ton of gold.

Oh, and there’s more than damage in this game.

DId you even read my first post? Go back to the first page, I said you can make enough gold to buy what you need but you will never be wealthy or rich.

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

When you guys hit 80 come back and post in this thread until then you have no idea what your talking about. Way points are 2s~4.5s each and repairs are not cheap. You guys are going to end up grinding hrs on end for a few gold that’s not going to buy you anything worth while on the trading post.

What da hell are you talking about? i swear to god the ignorance with every post you make is mind boggling.

By the way i have 3 char, thief, warrior and ranger all have full exotic which i brought just from gathering nodes whilst i was lvling and selling them on tp, seriously i think you just love to troll.

Clean your glasses because obviously they are all spotted up. Next time you sell on the trading post check and see what a vendor will give you. 45%+ of the high level items sell for less then what a vendor gives or just a few copper over. If your happy giving loot away by all means have at it!

you’re a kittening idiot plain and simple, don’t act like you know kitten.

Are you mad that you haven’t been checking vendor prices?

No i’m mad because i keep replaying to every stupid post you make. goodby i got better things to do than keep typing to dumbkitten.

Just admit it I am right, the bots have drove materiel prices to the ground. And now most of them sell on the trading post for the same price or a few copper more then what a vendor will give you.

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

When you guys hit 80 come back and post in this thread until then you have no idea what your talking about. Way points are 2s~4.5s each and repairs are not cheap. You guys are going to end up grinding hrs on end for a few gold that’s not going to buy you anything worth while on the trading post.

What da hell are you talking about? i swear to god the ignorance with every post you make is mind boggling.

By the way i have 3 char, thief, warrior and ranger all have full exotic which i brought just from gathering nodes whilst i was lvling and selling them on tp, seriously i think you just love to troll.

Clean your glasses because obviously they are all spotted up. Next time you sell on the trading post check and see what a vendor will give you. 45%+ of the high level items sell for less then what a vendor gives or just a few copper over. If your happy giving loot away by all means have at it!

you’re a kittening idiot plain and simple, don’t act like you know kitten.

Are you mad that you haven’t been checking vendor prices?

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Thorp.7250:

Soulwatcher.2604:

So you want the item prices to keep going up and you want to make less money to buy the items?

I don’t recall saying that at all.

Prices only go up to a point which people are willing to pay. It is called a relative value.

If you flood the market with gold you inflate prices to unobtainable levels for new players. While it might make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing big numbers it ruins the game.

The cost of crafting materials should always be less than the items they create. It wasn’t like that before.

I never said anything about flooding the market with gold. And its already to the point where is hard for new players to buy items. Anyone trying to buy exotic’s at level 80 today is going to have a very hard time.

no their not, exotics are easy, from lvl1 to lvl80 you gather nodes, ore, plant, trees whatever and you sell it, you will easily get more than enough to buy a full exotic set, so please don’t spout you bullkitten.

Kind of hard to sell materials on the trading post when most of them are the same price or less then a vendor would give you. Or did you not bother check that?

Use those materials to craft your own exotics, or use karma to purchase them. Gold really is a minor currency in the overall scheme in this game. You can have millions of gold and still be unable to buy the Orrian exotics.

I have 530k karma the Orr exotics are junk for a necro.

Oh… you’re one of those people that thinks they need to specialize into certain builds, aren’t you?

I’m using pretty much no more than one piece per vendor in addition to balancing my traits across multiple lines rather than fill a couple to 30. So far there’s nothing I can’t handle being balanced. (Mesmer, btw)

So no, the Orr exotics aren’t junk, you’ve just convinced yourself that they are. In that case, people can still craft exotics quite fine using nominal amounts of gold. You haven’t changed the fact that gold is only one currency in the game, and not the most important one at that.

My necro destroys, so I guess my build must be working!

Based on your evident skill at dodging I’m inclined to believe you.

For give me I was wrong I forgot about all the massive damage healing power gives…….

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

When you guys hit 80 come back and post in this thread until then you have no idea what your talking about. Way points are 2s~4.5s each and repairs are not cheap. You guys are going to end up grinding hrs on end for a few gold that’s not going to buy you anything worth while on the trading post.

What da hell are you talking about? i swear to god the ignorance with every post you make is mind boggling.

By the way i have 3 char, thief, warrior and ranger all have full exotic which i brought just from gathering nodes whilst i was lvling and selling them on tp, seriously i think you just love to troll.

Clean your glasses because obviously they are all spotted up. Next time you sell on the trading post check and see what a vendor will give you. 45%+ of the high level items sell for less then what a vendor gives or just a few copper over. If your happy giving loot away by all means have at it!

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Thorp.7250:

Soulwatcher.2604:

So you want the item prices to keep going up and you want to make less money to buy the items?

I don’t recall saying that at all.

Prices only go up to a point which people are willing to pay. It is called a relative value.

If you flood the market with gold you inflate prices to unobtainable levels for new players. While it might make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing big numbers it ruins the game.

The cost of crafting materials should always be less than the items they create. It wasn’t like that before.

I never said anything about flooding the market with gold. And its already to the point where is hard for new players to buy items. Anyone trying to buy exotic’s at level 80 today is going to have a very hard time.

no their not, exotics are easy, from lvl1 to lvl80 you gather nodes, ore, plant, trees whatever and you sell it, you will easily get more than enough to buy a full exotic set, so please don’t spout you bullkitten.

Kind of hard to sell materials on the trading post when most of them are the same price or less then a vendor would give you. Or did you not bother check that?

Use those materials to craft your own exotics, or use karma to purchase them. Gold really is a minor currency in the overall scheme in this game. You can have millions of gold and still be unable to buy the Orrian exotics.

I have 530k karma the Orr exotics are junk for a necro.

Oh… you’re one of those people that thinks they need to specialize into certain builds, aren’t you?

I’m using pretty much no more than one piece per vendor in addition to balancing my traits across multiple lines rather than fill a couple to 30. So far there’s nothing I can’t handle being balanced. (Mesmer, btw)

So no, the Orr exotics aren’t junk, you’ve just convinced yourself that they are. In that case, people can still craft exotics quite fine using nominal amounts of gold. You haven’t changed the fact that gold is only one currency in the game, and not the most important one at that.

My necro destroys, so I guess my build must be working!

VOLKON.1290:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Thorp.7250:

Soulwatcher.2604:

So you want the item prices to keep going up and you want to make less money to buy the items?

I don’t recall saying that at all.

Prices only go up to a point which people are willing to pay. It is called a relative value.

If you flood the market with gold you inflate prices to unobtainable levels for new players. While it might make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing big numbers it ruins the game.

The cost of crafting materials should always be less than the items they create. It wasn’t like that before.

I never said anything about flooding the market with gold. And its already to the point where is hard for new players to buy items. Anyone trying to buy exotic’s at level 80 today is going to have a very hard time.

no their not, exotics are easy, from lvl1 to lvl80 you gather nodes, ore, plant, trees whatever and you sell it, you will easily get more than enough to buy a full exotic set, so please don’t spout you bullkitten.

Kind of hard to sell materials on the trading post when most of them are the same price or less then a vendor would give you. Or did you not bother check that?

Use those materials to craft your own exotics, or use karma to purchase them. Gold really is a minor currency in the overall scheme in this game. You can have millions of gold and still be unable to buy the Orrian exotics.

I have 530k karma the Orr exotics are junk for a necro.

When you guys hit 80 come back and post in this thread until then you have no idea what your talking about. Way points are 2s~4.5s each and repairs are not cheap. You guys are going to end up grinding hrs on end for a few gold that’s not going to buy you anything worth while on the trading post.

Rannulf.9417:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Thorp.7250:

Soulwatcher.2604:

So you want the item prices to keep going up and you want to make less money to buy the items?

I don’t recall saying that at all.

Prices only go up to a point which people are willing to pay. It is called a relative value.

If you flood the market with gold you inflate prices to unobtainable levels for new players. While it might make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing big numbers it ruins the game.

The cost of crafting materials should always be less than the items they create. It wasn’t like that before.

I never said anything about flooding the market with gold. And its already to the point where is hard for new players to buy items. Anyone trying to buy exotic’s at level 80 today is going to have a very hard time.

no their not, exotics are easy, from lvl1 to lvl80 you gather nodes, ore, plant, trees whatever and you sell it, you will easily get more than enough to buy a full exotic set, so please don’t spout you bullkitten.

Kind of hard to sell materials on the trading post when most of them are the same price or less then a vendor would give you. Or did you not bother check that?

Rannulf.9417:

Op is an idiot, he doesn’t want to be rich yet he said he amass 100g, if you don’t like it then you’re welcome to go back to that other mmo you came from.

Don’t worry friend in the end most people are going to go back to their old games.

I will say one thing OP the game was one heck of a ride to level 80, after that not so much. It gets boring quick!

AcidicVision.5498:

I do dungeons in 30-40 minutes. Thats 26s a pop. Not including what I get from mobs, selling drops and TP any rares I get along the way.

So I can say I make safely between 40-50 silver on average for a dungeon. Three paths means right around 1.5 gold. Two characters: 3 gold for a few hours time after work.

And there are ways to make even more than that but I would rather do dungeons with friends and guild-mates than grind paths in Orr with a ton of MF buffs.

If you are doing the same event 56x for 1.8s a pop, then you are kittening up. Bad. In fact, you should probably go sit in a corner for a little while and think about what you have been doing with yourself.

I can make more then 3 gold for a few hrs doing events, but that’s not the point. (because of drops)

“Now your a happy guy with 3 gold friend A asks for help, you help friend A and you run to town, and then back to your farm spot. Friend B asks you to make some bags. Back to town you go and back to your farm spot and now your 3 gold has turned into 2g50s and lord help you if you die helping friend A because your going to end up with even less money. 3 gold for a few hrs is not much money with all the money sinks!

Thorp.7250:

Soulwatcher.2604:

So you want the item prices to keep going up and you want to make less money to buy the items?

I don’t recall saying that at all.

Prices only go up to a point which people are willing to pay. It is called a relative value.

If you flood the market with gold you inflate prices to unobtainable levels for new players. While it might make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing big numbers it ruins the game.

The cost of crafting materials should always be less than the items they create. It wasn’t like that before.

I never said anything about flooding the market with gold. And its already to the point where is hard for new players to buy items. Anyone trying to buy exotic’s at level 80 today is going to have a very hard time.

Thorp.7250:

Soulwatcher.2604:

So you want the item prices to keep going up and you want to make less money to buy the items?

I don’t recall saying that at all.

Prices only go up to a point which people are willing to pay. It is called a relative value.

The cost of crafting materials should always be less than the items they create. It wasn’t like that before.

I agree but 2 weeks after release when I bought all my exotic’s item prices were less then they are now and materials were worth more. Materials that were once 2 silver are now 60 copper if your lucky and a few more weeks they will be worth less then that. I feel sorry for anyone trying to buy exotic’s today!

Thorp.7250:

Soulwatcher.2604:

@Thorp if you haven’t noticed TP item prices are going up and prices of mats are going down.

And?

That is how it should be.

So you want the item prices to keep going up and you want to make less money to buy the items?

Raf.1078:

So…a month into the game and most of us only have a few gold between us. Lets talk about this next year about this time and see how everyone is doing.

Seems to be a distinct lack of patience by some around here.

Sorry you can’t get rich quick.

Its obvious you missed my EQ2 posts, the big problem with this game is when you do event’s @ 80 you get a wopping 1s80copper that means you need to run the event 56 times to get 1 gold. 56 x amount of time per event. Do you see where I am going here?

At that rate no one is going to have any money. I think its safe to say most of the people in this thread are not 80 and have no idea what it takes to make gold.

Pradton.8576:

Real loot? All the loot I have been getting so far is fake? Why didn’t anyone tell me!?

Its fake!

@Thorp if you haven’t noticed TP item prices are going up and prices of mats are going down.

Tosha Daydreamer.9251:

If it’s easy to make millions of gold very quickly, then what’s the value of gold? If every player can make a lot of cash in no time, soon you’ll have to spend 100 gold just to buy a bread. Sure, you’ll have pretty large numbers in your bank account, so maybe you will feel rich. But in essence, it’s worthless.

It’s not impossible to get rich if you are willing to put in the time and effort, but you (OP) don’t seem to want to do that. You just want it handed to you.

Here we go with the handed thing again. I did say I DON"T have any problem working for it. What I DO have a problem with is there is no sure fire way to make lots of gold. And with all the money sinks in the game you will never be wealthy or rich.

ravinhood.3981:

Soulwatcher.2604:

ravinhood.3981:

Soulwatcher.2604:

exphryl.3857:

I usually hover at most around 40G.

Than my addiction kicks in and 200+ Unidentifed Dyes later, not to mention Forge Gambling, i’m back to about 5g until I farm more Ore/Run Events and do Dungeons if I feel like.

Gold actually IS easy to come by. It takes time. It does NOT take a lot of effort.

When you say “it takes time” your right it takes TONS of time to amass a small amount of gold. And I am saying it shouldn’t be that way. You should be able to make a decent amount of gold in a reasonable amount of time.

Oh I see NOW what you are saying. You want massive amounts of gold in a very short timeframe instead of having to WORK LONG hours and days and weeks and months and years for it….yes NOW I see where you’re at. I played EQ and EQ2 and I know what they USED to be like before just GIVING PLAT away. I remember when it took days and weeks and months and years to get a pot load of PLAT. Now making plat is like walk here grab your pot, walk there grab your pot, walk everywhere and grab your pot of PLAT.

I’m personally veryyyyyyyy happy about the change and going back to the “good ole days” when coins didn’t come so easily and you didn’t get rich quick overnight. Now there’s something at least to WORK and PLAY for and put some time into at the endgame.

I played EQ from June of 99 to 2004 and by the time GOD came out I had over 60 million plat, It wasn’t hard to make plat in that game either.

Well I am talking about the NORMAL players not those without a life or who play 24/7. Plus it’s EASY to say ou had 60 million plat by the time GOD came out. PROVING it is another thing.

Well maybe I should be mad at god for giving me a disability that keeps me from working, but that’s a different story.

But your right about one thing its kind of hard to prove something that happened over 8 years ago. If you don’t believe me then no loss to me.

Cloudwalkernz.1328:

Banewrath.5107:

Don`t worry , once you get to 80 and you buy whatever gear you need or get your cultural skins, you won`t need gold anymore except for repairs and ports.

I agree with the OP. I also agree with you. The problem is that the repair and teleport cost is so high that find myself unable to afford either.

An average reward of an EP for a lvl 80 is around1.8s (if you get a gold reward which is no hard). Average repair for just dying once is around 1.9s and average teleport (nearest) is around 1.65s. Which mean if you die just one you need to do 2 Eps to cover the cost. Cross area teleport is usually over 3s. This means you usually lose money if you teleport to a world events.

I find myself constantly grinding in lower level zone just to pay for exploring in Orr.

Thank you for backing me up my friend. =)

ravinhood.3981:

Soulwatcher.2604:

exphryl.3857:

I usually hover at most around 40G.

Than my addiction kicks in and 200+ Unidentifed Dyes later, not to mention Forge Gambling, i’m back to about 5g until I farm more Ore/Run Events and do Dungeons if I feel like.

Gold actually IS easy to come by. It takes time. It does NOT take a lot of effort.

When you say “it takes time” your right it takes TONS of time to amass a small amount of gold. And I am saying it shouldn’t be that way. You should be able to make a decent amount of gold in a reasonable amount of time.

Oh I see NOW what you are saying. You want massive amounts of gold in a very short timeframe instead of having to WORK LONG hours and days and weeks and months and years for it….yes NOW I see where you’re at. I played EQ and EQ2 and I know what they USED to be like before just GIVING PLAT away. I remember when it took days and weeks and months and years to get a pot load of PLAT. Now making plat is like walk here grab your pot, walk there grab your pot, walk everywhere and grab your pot of PLAT.

I’m personally veryyyyyyyy happy about the change and going back to the “good ole days” when coins didn’t come so easily and you didn’t get rich quick overnight. Now there’s something at least to WORK and PLAY for and put some time into at the endgame.

I played EQ from June of 99 to 2004 and by the time GOD came out I had over 60 million plat, It wasn’t hard to make plat in that game either.

Gehenna.3625:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Gehenna.3625:

Is this a troll?

I am never super rich in any game but I do ok. Currently my main has about 15g and I haven’t really tried to farm much at all.

It seems to me that Anet made more money sinks that appealed to you then any MMO you played since 1999. That sounds like a positive achievement.

I don’t want to sound rude but 15 gold is nothing I have made way more then that and I still do not feel wealthy or rich.

Don’t worry, I’m not offended. I’ve taken my time to get to level 50 and got my exotic stuff together and have 15g. That isn’t wealthy but if you have had lots more cash and don’t feel rich, well, I dunno what your problem is. You are rich apparently but don’t feel it. You now admit that you are actually or were rich at some point. So it is easy for you to get rich.

So what are you getting at then? Do you really prefer having tons of gold and nothing to spend it on? I suppose it’s that way in many games but I see it as a positive thing that you still have lots you can spend it on.

What I am getting at is being able to buy anything you want in the game and having plenty of money left over. If a player wants to put the time/effort they should be able to make a mass amount of gold.

Tosha Daydreamer.9251:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Then please explain to me why its a good idea to keep the players right on the edge of being broke all the time. Unless you have a ton of free time like I do your never going to make any money in this game. And even with all my free time I will never be wealthy or rich.

So basically you just want a big bag of cash handed to you for free?

No I want to be able to earn it which is impossible in this game.

Shadey.2180:

Everything in the game is EASILY availabe minus a few SKINS, where the only way you see it possible is gem store. How DARE arenanet try to FORCE us into using their store

If it seems to difficult, why not try to get your guildies to assist you in the money making process?

I am not going to give you a exact amount but I will say that I have made well over 100 gold so far since being 80. But its a far cry from being wealthy or rich. No one person will ever be wealthy or rich in this game unless exploit or work the system.

Then please explain to me why its a good idea to keep the players right on the edge of being broke all the time. Unless you have a ton of free time like I do your never going to make any money in this game. And even with all my free time I will never be wealthy or rich.

So you quit all the other ones in the first 30 days and you have no idea how mmorpg’s work?

Calavera.1086:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Shadey.2180:

‘Lack of any real loot is a huge problem for ME’ should have been the title

then the proper responses would have been

“Cool story bro”

Come back to this thread after you try making gold to buy your legendary. I am sure you will be singing a different song.

That’s why they’re called Legendaries, they are supposed to be hard to get duh!

Oh dear lord I can see where this is going, let me guess this is your first MMORPG?

Thorp.7250:

Really? You want to be rich and buy anything you want after playing for a month. Get real.

Don’t worry friend your not going to be rich a year from now, Anet designed it that way.

Shadey.2180:

‘Lack of any real loot is a huge problem for ME’ should have been the title

then the proper responses would have been

“Cool story bro”

Come back to this thread after you try making gold to buy your legendary. I am sure you will be singing a different song.

Calavera.1086:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Calavera.1086:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Calavera.1086:

What you mean is there’s no EASY way to be wealthy or rich right?

Then I guess Anet succeeded.

The only thing they succeed in doing is making sure they have huge profits from gem to gold exchange.

And what’s the problem with that? There’s no P2W here, if you don’t have the time and patience then spend a few bucks and help Anet.

It’s all about how much money or time you’re willing spend.

Players should never feel forced into buying gems to trade for gold and I am sure many feel that way.

You stated that you could buy anything you wanted with the gold you have, how’s that being forced into buying gems?

Really dude, it sounds like you want to sit through 1-2 hours playing the game and get more money than you know what to do with. That would just ruin the economy, help botters and kill Anet income. In other words it wouldn’t be good to anyone.

I don’t know what level you are but just wait to 80 and when you want to try and make gold to buy something you want. You will see what I am talking about then. It takes far too long to make small amounts of gold.

And FYI the EQ2 economy is perfectly healthy and if I really wanted to I could make 1,000 plat in a week with very little effort. All loot boils down to in this game is forcing people to buy gold to keep Anets profits high,

exphryl.3857:

I usually hover at most around 40G.

Than my addiction kicks in and 200+ Unidentifed Dyes later, not to mention Forge Gambling, i’m back to about 5g until I farm more Ore/Run Events and do Dungeons if I feel like.

Gold actually IS easy to come by. It takes time. It does NOT take a lot of effort.

When you say “it takes time” your right it takes TONS of time to amass a small amount of gold. And I am saying it shouldn’t be that way. You should be able to make a decent amount of gold in a reasonable amount of time.

Calavera.1086:

Soulwatcher.2604:

Calavera.1086:

What you mean is there’s no EASY way to be wealthy or rich right?

Then I guess Anet succeeded.

The only thing they succeed in doing is making sure they have huge profits from gem to gold exchange.

And what’s the problem with that? There’s no P2W here, if you don’t have the time and patience then spend a few bucks and help Anet.

It’s all about how much money or time you’re willing spend.

Players should never feel forced into buying gems to trade for gold and I am sure many feel that way.

Algreg.3629:

What is the point of amassing virtual currency when – as you said yourself – you easily get enough gold to buy any items you need? Do people want to build a pool of gold to dive into (which, as Peter Griffin demonstrated, does not work).? The only reason for wanting large amounts of gold would be buying gems and I doubt anet will cut themselves from that source of income.

That’s exactly what they are doing controlling the gem to gold exchange!

Gehenna.3625:

Is this a troll?

I am never super rich in any game but I do ok. Currently my main has about 15g and I haven’t really tried to farm much at all.

It seems to me that Anet made more money sinks that appealed to you then any MMO you played since 1999. That sounds like a positive achievement.

I don’t want to sound rude but 15 gold is nothing I have made way more then that and I still do not feel wealthy or rich.

Calavera.1086:

What you mean is there’s no EASY way to be wealthy or rich right?

Then I guess Anet succeeded.

The only thing they succeed in doing is making sure they have huge profits from gem to gold exchange.

Branwin.4609:

To be honest, it’s too soon to really say that. As the game is only a month old, overall realm wealth is generally low. It’s our job to generate that money through the means given to us. We don’t start the game with money in the bank.

When I first started playing another certain MMO, 500 gold was a lot of money. I mean, a LOT of money. I was rich then! By the time I stopped playing in preparation for GW2, it was a drop in the bucket compared to what I had amassed over the years.

Honestly, you need to be real. That’s all.

I am being real, I can log into EQ2 and make 400 plat (pure plat drops only) in 2hrs or less with out any effort. Show me how to make the equivalent in this game.

I am really enjoying the Necromancer but I only play PVE. I hate PVP!

Botting has been a problem from day one and they have done nothing about it but ban a few players. Don’t expect them to fix it any time soon!

I have been playing MMORPG’s since June of 1999 and every single game I have ever played I have always found a way to be wealthy or rich. So far I haven’t found a way in GW2.

Yes you can make enough money to buy anything you will ever need but you will never be wealthy or rich. There are far too many money sinks and there is no sure fire way to make lots of gold.

A lot of people like to be rich or wealthy and in the end its going to end up hurting this game!

While I don’t agree with everything the OP said I am 400hrs+ into the game ankittenep thinking to myself now what do I do! I have been playing MMO’s since June of 1999 and I have never had this problem in any other game that I liked.

I really like GW2 but there isn’t any one thing that drives me to keep playing. I am hoping that changes Oct 22.

My cousin got a 3 day ban for using a macro on a G15 keyboard when he was afk. So I would say yes you will get in trouble if you get caught.