Guild Wars 2

For ranger only Rampage as one or Entangle. Entangle is great in WvW and Spvp. Rampage as one gives some amazing boons.

As an asura I use my Offensive golem alot though.

Depends on how you want to play. As a trap /SB ranger I stack Con Dmg / Power / Tough/ Vitality and do well in dungeons and WvW skirmishes. If your playing a Marks build you probably want Power / Prec / tough.

I use frost trap in WvW and think it ends up being a huge game changer. Most classes heavily rely on certain skills making them take up to second cooldowns can break other classes.

You can run anything in Orr and be fine. Orr is not a problem. The problem is WvW , Dungeons, and sPvp. Even dungeons are not that bad on pets, Bosses are for sure. I farm orr constantly and have no problems with my pets. Its when I am in sPvP or WvW or Dungeon bosses the pet instantly gets gibbed.

Now I am not talking about small skirmishes in WvW, I am talking about larger battles your pet will not survive, even defending tower walls.

This also does not explain that

1. f2 response is terrible.
2. No attacks while in motion
3. No porting / jumping off cliffs or small drops.

I have logged 350ish hours and am 80 percent done with the dreamer. I am not quitting my ranger anytime soon. But these YOUR BAD YOUR DOING IT WRONG threads are nonsense. Proven bugs > your beliefs or PVE posts.

It is one time but you can keep transmuting the look to new gear everytime. So you really only have to buy it 1 time.

I get a immobilize also.

Sword is a great weapon esp putting on distance on other players. The problem is the auto attack roots us in place.

Your the 4th or 5th ranger who claims they know something the thousands of other rangers don’t. Pets have alot of things wrong with them. They cant attack while on the move, f2 abilities are bugged although they are very good. They are not late because of casting time, they are late because the f2 button response is off 85% of the time resulting in holding the button or spamming it.

Buy some gems and get the krytan , the armor fits really well with the CoF chest.

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I am sorry but OP post is not correct, as far as mobility skills 7,8,9 of other classes we have the worst. Yes we can make a bunker build but your whole L2p QQ NEWBS is totally incorrect look at rangers. Any class can be high mobility, intact thiefs have better mobility then us. We dont have the most bugs that is true, but we have the worst weapons and are the second most passed class in pvp and the first most in pve.

Congrats you hit a white animal at level 80?

DoomBunny.2903:

deepwinter.9015:

@DoomBunny, That just sounds like accepting defeat; resigning to the pitiful state of the profession.

It’s not really accepting defeat, it’s just working with what we’ve got.

Right now, I play a Shortbow+Sword/Torch trap condition build for PvE and WvW (I don’t care as much for sPvP ). While I don’t nearly deal as much damage as say, a Thief can, I do things a Thief can’t while helping my team in other ways.

I can drop combo fields, heal my party, or tank a few stray mobs, all while still dealing a respectable bit of damage. Sure, the Thief can make pretty numbers appear, but I can do a bit of that too while doing bits of other stuff as well.

I’m not saying we should all just give up and write the Ranger off as a pseudo-Druid and move on, we just need to play with the cards we’ve been dealt with for now. I honestly believe A-Net is working their behinds off trying to fix the Ranger, but it’s not going to happen overnight. Rather than just re-roll until the fixes arrive, I find it more fun to just find something the Ranger is good at and just stick it out.

WvW cannot really be counted persay, we still have our great escape and high mobility. Not as good as other classes but that doesnt much matter when your spamming arrows from a wall or at a door. If decent small zerg vs small zerg it is even easier to stay on the outskirts knowing when to retreat.

I do not even believe all classes should be balances I think if a Warrior catches me he should prolly kill me. What is making us sad is the lack of response and the lack of even 1 moderately strong weapon. Not counting the WH being one of the best if not the best weapon we have right now.

I have played every class in tpvp and spvp, I will say we are deff bottom 2 classes. Most tPvP teams dont take rangers. I am lucky enough to be in a guild I have been with for many years. I went from a great point defender when spirits where viable, to a harasser with SB / Axe+Warhorn . With the SB nerf no we are not useless.

I can till run Orr for event and Materials. I can still WvW and take points.

SB rangers are still spamming 1 just now with 1-3 less bleeds. Which relates to less condition damage. Quickening Zephyr is bugged for SB not reducing casting timeby 50%.

Asking people to list all there problems, it is pretty much everything in the bug list. The SB is probably never going to get a rework on skills. They will not make new animations and code for new skills. If we are keeping the “Bot Fix” short bow or the |" you only spam 1 ability" short bow. The current abilities need reworking. Weather new conditions are added. At least 3 skills need damage increases.

The sad thing is , is even now I still use 1 as my main ability. I still love my ranger but fighting is more lackluster now then ever.

I would actually be decently happy if they said they will fix the QZ bug on the short bow. It does not shoot 50% quicker. If it did it would not be as frustrating as now.

Missed the off topic my apologies, shoudln’t be surprised but something has to happen. This thread will just get up to 16+ pages anyways. That is not counting the posts that got deleted.

There is already a petition thread its at 16 pages right now.

Other classes get more then 1 variation of a cookie cutter build, which has been the ranger story since launch.

Warrior.

Because balance team.

You sir are incorrect, they made a decent weapon into a weapon on par with the last stating that it wasn’t meant for spamming.Which is fine but when the other abilities are worthless and do not do much for control or utility, then yes it needs a buff. Just because you want other weapons buffed does not mean, short bow does not need one.

I am running condition damage for traps right now.

This thread is useless, We have a 15 page thread working on this. Don’t make rethreads of the same info. SB rangers were very very good. That being said the other weapons were subpar and needed buffs. I can still use my ranger but it is not nearly as fun anymore or effective. It is not game breaking but we are pretty much a class to laugh at now, noone really worries about us in pvp.

The possible only way to fix it besides reverting back.

1. Remove the positioning required from this skill. Increase base damage slightly.
2. Increase damage on this, Right now it is very mediocre. It is only worth using for the healing debuff from posion.
3. This is mostly worthless the jump back does not move you far enough to escape most skills.
4. Very conditional skill. Give it regular use condition, chill or something along those lines.
5. Also a very conditional skill. Using this only for interupt, noone uses this for damage.

aPutridCorpse.8792:

7% less damage doesnt even include the lost damage to the obstructed messages you get when a single blade of grass floats in front of you.

Not just that it does not account condition damage lost and crit damage.

Warrior is up to 50 now, it is crazy how superior their ranged is to ours.
Longbow vs Longbow, warriors have the skills ranger should have.
Rifle vs Short bow Rifle has it by a long shot.

Heavy armor and survivability go to the warrior. All I do is spam 100 blades and 1 on GS, and 1 and 3 on Rifle. I don’t know that that differs from rangers using 1. Infact on the Warrior I can spam 1 from infront and stack 7-10 bleeds easy.

There is no good explanation that Anet can give us to prove why warriors can spam 1 with rifle and get alot of Viable weapons. We cannot spam 1 with short bow because it is our ONLY viable ranged weapon.

Again this is to fix the bot issue, just masked in a what was a bad cover up.

Lets face it. I am almost 110% sure this was done for the botting issues. So instead of taking care of the bots. We are punished for a easy bandaid fix.

andybmcc.8751:

I still don’t understand why PvP balancing is going on when so many classes have bugged skills, traits, and mechanics. Even runes and sigils are bugged. I can’t get completion of half of the maps because I’m missing a single bugged skill point. I stand in a DE area for 10 minutes waiting for waves of enemies only to realize that it is just a bugged out event.

It makes more sense to me to work on fixing the bugs, and worry about balance later unless there is something that is going around insta-killing everyone. Nobody knew this animation bug that nobody knew existed until it was “fixed”, but there are huge stickied lists of actual issues that are being pushed aside.

Disclaimer: About the bugs, they can get frustrating, but this is actually a pretty good game. The sound and graphics teams did great work, it’s beautiful. The devs gave me a wicked case of alt fever.

Because Pro-Esports = profit $$$$$

They aren’t very useful at all after the BWE3 nerf they received.

It does get rather boring seeing.

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cole.2450:

Harbinger.8637:

cole.2450:

I still curious how having 100 gold from farming or buying it off ebay makes one a capable leader? can anyone answer this for me?

It doesn’t. Badges of Honor would have been better, but that still wouldn’t help. Best way would be some kind of voting system.

I hear ya man, the commander title in this game has nothing to do with WvW accomplishments, it doesn’t even make sense. I transferred to another server(larger one) the other day just to check things out. Those guys thought they were the greatest thing since sliced bread for having that commander tag. one stated to me “if they have earned the commanders title they know what they are doing and you should follow them!” i had a lot of fun w that comment

Badges of honor + WvW comms would be the best part…Even the gift of battle. It is way to easy to get at this point.

Toble.2968:

The thing is, you have to actually know battle strategies. It also probably wont be as effective as if you were a part of your respective alliance. I find guildless, non-alliance bound commanders to be a little less than useless, but a little more than annoying if they take their symbol and lead people away from where they need to be at other commanders. So consider finding a guild as part of your alliance on your server first. Or start one.

Also, most people do not troll you if you act with dignity and make fair calls, if you don’t, you are likely to gain a bad reputation for the rest of your in game life.

This is true for the most part. Another problem is however is you will indeed encounter trolls, you have to learn to ignore them. If you are good the people who matter will follow you. The worst thing about WvW I find as a commander, is that times you will find people who do not listen, and contradict you because they are zerg fanatics.

I would say get it if your server is lacking them. If you find a commander already leading in you BG however follow them dont split your forces. Or kindly move to another BG that does not have one.

On the troll matter though I was not good at ignoring them last night, we went from total map control. By the time I was sick of the troll in my BG and left. We lost almost all of the map. So in turn just ignore them or even block the bad ones.

It is not game breaking it is still simple to outplay and kill people. But it feels 100 percent lackluster now. I have been thinking about taking QZ off my skill set.

Rangers frustration started in BWE2/3. This is when GS and Spirits where nerfed. Leaving us with SB and unintelligent pets.

vidiotking.1928:

Rangers can use pistols? I’ve never even seen a pistol in game…. I must L2P?

He rerolled to a thief is what he saying.

The very first bug post in this sub forum will tell everything that is wrong with rangers at the moment. Which is the main problem why no one understands this nerf at all.

Rangers have no ability to clone ourselves. maybe he was a ninja with 2 theifs around him.

andybmcc.8751:

Between buffs on weapon/pet swap, use of combo fields ( fire, water ), and pet abilities ( if they actually hit ) I think we have a fairly complex class. Not everybody spams shortbow 1 and warhorn buffs. That’s very effective ( maybe not so much now with bugged QZ ) but boring.

This people who just spam Crossfire with QZ are the ones who thinks it’s entirely broken, I want it fixed. But I still find no trouble getting kills in WvW or in Orr. Just became a little more strategy based then spam spam spam spam, Finisher, Win.

It works its just one of the worst abilities of them all.

229 hours played on my ranger, not alot but hours I wont get back if it isnt fixed. I wont reroll as it is not super game breaking, you can still efficiently kill in wvw as long as you play smart. But still would like to see an update or fix, just watching youtube side by side of pre and post patch shows it very clearly.

The problem is the Undermanned buff given to the lower servers is not very good at all. Esp. when one owns 2 or 3 orbs, extra karma… If people want karma they will mainly go pve for it. The undermanned buff should stop 750/0/0 caps happening on maps, which it is not doing.

@zerospin

2. Currently, the system is quickly going to collapse on itself. Imagine a situation when you log in and see 99 commander icons on the map. What is the point of having a commander then at all? This will happen within next few months.

This right here is completely wrong and is why I cannot believe what you are suggesting. You may not WvW alot, and you may get mad and rage at me if you would like. Only 6 commanders can show up on a map at all times, which is about as many as you suggest with:

I can see multiple ranks, for example:
[Guild] Team Leader – if you have 6+followers.
[Guild] Lieutenant – 12+ followers
[Guild] Commander – 20+ followers
[Guild] General – 40+ followers
[Guild] Field Marshal – 84+ followers (about half of the map population)
Insert guild name in the brackets if you are in the guild layer.

The way it is chosen now is that, the 6 with the highest PvP rank will show up. That to me maybe should change by a voting system for current commanders. Anet is not going to change it though as they need gold sinks being F2p, and this is clearly a rather large one.

That is quite true Kabuki, The 100g is a problem as money is not exactly that hard to make with constant play. The issue is that no requirement in token are needed. I have my 500 token badge for my legendary. But if I had to choose to get the book with my tokens and pay the gold I still would. Badges should be involved some way. say 1000wvw and 100g.

With 1000comms that would mean the person gets the premise of WvW, Truth in large is not everyone will buy a 100g book at that. Not everyone wants to lead, some people are probably terrified of trying to lead.

Voting system never works, we had it in Swtor for extra rank points. Being in a hardcore guild at the time in that game, we always voted for our members. Even though it would be random healers making or breaking matches sometimes. That is really the reality of a voting system.

If your an Asura Ranger you like technology, therefore you would probably use a rifle. Just saying. Above statement are false. BTW I do not want to use a rifle, before you choose to rageface.

Kianeng has been stepping up. The managed to get our Orb in Borlis Pass BG last night, while we were getting the orb and fortifying the etheron hills, they took half the map. We ended up getting the entire map back .

Cruzyo.7304:

I do understand that point. I still believe there needs to be a counter mechanism other than blocking. If you block a commander you dont like for whatever reason, it has no negative effect on him at all. Maybe do it by some kind of favor-over-time system. If you got many positive votes for a long period of time, a single negative vote wont do anything bad to you until more people vote you down, over a period of time aswell, kinda like the current wvw score system

that would back up abuse from opponent spies or personal dislikes.

This makes partial sense, I say this because I have my commander book and actually lead. The problem is , is that some people dont understand mechanics or priority in WvW. Last night in Borlis Pass BG, I led a raid on our orb in etheron hills. From there we chose to fortify our keep. I stuck around with about 4-5 people escorting yaks to make this happen.

Most of the people got bored leaving to go counter-zerg the server taking towers and the likes. Now if this voting system was in place I would get down votes for doing the intelligent thing. After we fortified the keep I led the troops into complete control of the map with the help from some great players and other voices.

We currently have decided to join this great server from HOD, where we were from the prelaunch.

History:
Steadfast, formerly Valiant from Swtor and WAR was founded durring WAR as a PvP based guild. After playing through launch of WAR we took a small Break returning to Swtor. In Swtor we accomplished everything we wanted by becoming one of the top pvp guilds on our server. We decided that the grind was too boring for us.

Plan:
We moved to this server because the WvWvW was alot more fun. We plan on staying on this server permanently. We currently have are involved greatly in WvW and dont just zerg around. We are looking to stay small to medium sized and pick up more WvW oriented players. We do welcome players of all play styles and skill. We are also the people you hate camping the puzzle when there is nothing else to do.

We are more involved in the strategy of WvW and not brute force. Taking and holding a keep with a small group against larger unorganized raid.

Perks:
Unlimited space TS server
Guild with perks made ( we upgrade to what members want, not for leaders benefits)
Help (we always have people willing to run a dungeon with you, or help you with anyting)
Forums
Longevity and fun

PM me here or message Speno, Hooyabooya, or Kibblet ingame.

Levetty.1279:

green plum.7514:

Levetty.1279:

I never said anything about an anti Ranger conspiracy.

Please read a post before you respond to it instead of just trolling and adding nothing to the conversation.

Apparently you don’t read what you post yourself. Quote:

“The second is that Anet outright lied in their patch notes. There was no graphical glitch, I have never seen anybody here or over on guru mention it and I certainly have not seen it myself but apparently this made up glitch was so important they needed to nerf Ranger.”

Which is followed by further claims how much ANet hates Rangers.

The interesting thing is, ANet does not buff or nerf classes based on whine on the forums, actually they change classes despite the whine. They are not afraid to make unpopular but correct decisions (such as the recent Guardian changes), and this is why I personally trust them.

Don’t get me wrong: I too believe that the SB changes are bugged or unfinished. And ANet should respond to this. But why won’t give them the chance to actually do it before you start accusing them of all possible sins. If they don’t respond within a reasonable time frame, then I too will make a big fuss about it. But since the patch, hardly 24 hours have passed. You are clearly delusional if you think that ANet will throw all their available resources on this issue – it will be tested and discussed in a meeting in due time until the responsible persons reach a verdict about the issue and then an official response will be formulated and posted. I have no idea what you do for living, but its clear that you have no experience with management of big projects. You just can’t force response on issues like that, or you will inevitably end up with chaos.

They did outright lie. Not a single person over every forum I have checked or in my time playing as the ranger has this graphical glitch been seen.

Not even the Anet apologists have tried claiming they have seen this glitch.

I was not having a graphical glitch until after this patch, when I pop QZ it starts like the pre-patch version (fires quick like 3 arrows), then has a graphical glitch and starts shooting extremely slow. This was happening in WvWvW which is bug world, so I don’t know if it was just me.

This is all I have at work currently.

While although I can still kill people in WvWvW with my shortbow. It is still pretty disappointing, Bleed stacks are deff a couple off. This makes my entire build, Armor/Rune set pretty useless. I will still play my ranger and give Anet the time they need to hopefully fix this. Still by far the best 1 month/ support of any MMO release in the past 10 years.

Longbow is great when traited for WvWvW, for sPvp the short bow has the same range(untraited), More condition damage, A interrupt/stun , a evade, and a cripple. It also does more damage since it shoots faster.

The long bow has higher base damage, a knock back, a subpar AOE, and decent burst. The longest range in the game when traited.

All in All the short bow wins hands down.