Guild Wars 2

Im Mudbone.1437:

+1, I concur. I want a more MANLY Legendary Bow please.

so you want a bow that burps, farts and is a scratcher? ^..^

Raphael Williams.3671:

agauos.8794:

Ruprect.7260:

agauos.8794:

Agree with the OP, I hate PvP and WvW. I’m not looking forward to completing any of those maps at all.

Then don’t. There is nothing in this game that you have to do.

I have to if I want the star, don’t I?

then its obvious, you really DON’T want the star.

What you want is someone to GIVE you the star.

hey! you have to work for me bucko! :P

i agree with Ruprecht.. give everyone a legendary and voila!

it sounds mean… but first and foremost id like a game that im still interested in…. ^..^

beyond that a bicycle with a bell that i can ring while whoooshing around LA and a
mini pooch that will run next to me………. ^..^

RiverRat.1045:

little ceasar.9254:

at the end of the day all we in [Agg] care about is the fights, not the PPT.

if this is true why dont you just stay in eb where you can just fight and not cap?

yeah… people who care about the ppt transfer to T8 ….. 0.o

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

titanlectro.5029:

We have never encountered anything like Agg before. We are learning and adapting and testing out new tactics. Only time will tell how successful we are, but we are definitely improving. The rest of ET has not been too hard to deal with, and you can easily tell if Agg is online based on whether ET is winning or losing. (No offense intended to ET).

That makes it sound like FoE isn’t present very much. Are they not around anymore? Agg and FoE were two fairly prominent ET thorns in our side while we were down there.

without getting into too much detail… FoE are absolutely around. but there is no point in both of our guilds being on the same…..bl we are very successful which ever bl we are on ^..^

Darek.1836:

Entaurrus Silver.3820:

Haha, as much as I love finally having a chance to win in WvW for once, I’ve always associated the ET’s blueish hue with the PvP underdog. I wouldn’t mind staying with blue.

Well you guys aren’t the underdogs anymore with your new awesome sauce guilds

..actually ALL of ET is awesome sauce……… ^..^

Runamok.9638:

Dear punks of the guild GOML. Especially you Mr. Legendary. I will be hunting you down and showing you no respect on the battlefield. There will be much /dance and /laugh. I will try my hardest to showcase equal skills at kittengery as you and your merry men have displayed.

omg… One Angry Brotha…. get em!!!!! ^..^

/agreed – Please help with this Anet

i agree with the op.

the skill lag is horrible now (seems like after last patch it did get a lot worse). regardless of what type of server you are on – large or small pop, this is unacceptable.

SoPP.7034:

If you have recently transferred, then be happy where you are. Place pressure on those that make the changes if you are unhappy sometime in the future. But don’t transfer, in the long run, the WvW community does not benefit, those that don’t care about WvW do.

Respect

reality is that no one person has the right to tell others how to play a game. they play the way they need to, to have fun.

i am sorry that people are apparently hurt now that guilds chose what they felt was the best for THEIR members. if the server doesn’t make members of guilds happy.. the guild has to work towards that end.

no one on sos complained when the NA guilds arrived to plug the time gap. transfers were ok then. matter of fact.. they were actively recruiting. how were people suppose to get there…. but by transfers. seems quite hypocritical now that people chose a different path, to say that transfers are bad.

my guild was on the battlefield every day …no matter what. thats we do. we are a WvWvW focused guild and we were told thats the type of server we were transferring to.

i can assure you we have not changed, but the server has. it was never about scores, it was about the fight. sos can say what they like, but a server that can advocate that its ok to drop tiers because the fight is too hard, certainly cant blame others for leaving. we like a difficult fight, but we are not going to give up and we want to be with people who feel the same way.

we appreciate our friends greatly who have fought along side of us and those who continue to do so.

Wiseman.4075:

Sorry, We are getting ready for the one day of the year we pretend we have girlfriends that like us.

this made me LoL in my office….

Ferris Bewler.9706:

Good to have Agg and FoE with us, welcome guys, i hope your move is a seemless one. Kudos tonight to all in KN BL, some really fun fights! Looking forward to a good finishing of the week.

thank you.. we are excited to be here.

Shiren.9532:

I mostly call Agg and FoE bandwagon guilds because they weren’t SoS natives, they came there because it was winning, and they are leaving when it’s losing. I can understand their frustration, WvW has been a mixed bag lately and a lot of adjusting has been taking place, I think the design (and meta) of WvW encourages guilds to do what they are doing. If they weren’t having fun on SoS any more and transferring is what they needed to do to preserve the game for their guilds, as much as it sucks for the people negatively impacted by it, it’s the right call to make personally.

As far as the essays go, I need to stop. I doubt I will.

no, you are incorrect, when FoE transfered to SoS you were not winning, you were crying for help in your NA time slots.

FoE is a goal driven guild and our goals are no longer the same as SoS. plain and simple. there has always FoE members in the battlefield whether the server was winning or not. We play to fight our opposition, to have fun and be a staunch contributer to the server we are on.

Kreen.3925:

Miiaah.5416:

Shiren.9532:

Minoru.1237:

Ohai.8346:

FoE and AGG are both in the process of moving to Blackgate.
SoS was our home but in recent weeks they have simply given up and the militia have vanished/bandwaggoned. We found ourselves trying to hold 2-3 maps between 2 guilds and pugs, with other guilds cowering away from the fight. People like tsym having 4 of 65 online people in WvW wanting to take week off after week off if we aint winning, and other guilds more interested in Fractals than fighting for 2nd place.
This was starting to snowball and was not healthy for either of our guilds who are both active competitive pvp guilds, and after several weeks of server meetings we decided its simply time to move on.
Will we have a better chance of being #1 with Blackgate? Probably not unless they get Oceanic/SEA transfers, but what we will get is a server who actually want to fight and never give up which is all our guilds want.
We wish Sea of Sorrows the best and we leave sad that the server went this way.

I say this as a JQ citizen. If you guys are bailing to another server, don’t leave the guild ND on a sinking SOS. They are too good to fall out of T1. Remember that SoS recruited them, so if the server is giving up on WvW, atleast let them know so they can find a new home on SoR or Blackgate, or maybe even TC, though I think they should stay in T1.

FoE and Agg are bandwagon guilds that can’t bear the thought of not being in tier one. They think their guilds stand a better chance at staying in tier one than they do on SoS, that’s why they are leaving. The server isn’t dieing, it’s two bandwagon guilds leaving (they bandwagoned to SoS, it was a matter of time before they left it), not a dead server. Tier one isn’t going to be a three way competition until the numbers even out, that’s just how it is. The server didn’t get weaker, they just didn’t get all the transfers that JQ, and to a lesser extent, SoR and other servers got.

I’m guessing Agg and FoE are hoping their bandwagoning off of the server will snowball with other guilds on the server and force SoS into tier two. That will cause their new server, conveniently the strongest tier two server, to move up to tier one.

As far as you speaking as a JQ citizen about ND needing to stay in tier one (I like ND and I’m glad I get to play with them), a lot of people on both SoS and SoR don’t consider tier one very competitive. I know it’s not fun beating up on an out-manned opponent, but that’s what happens when you can fill maps with transfers and the other servers can’t. I honestly believe every server would get better competition in tier two where the numbers (at least between first and second) will be more even. My experience with ND is that they play around Oceanic/SEA times and thus even in tier one, they have plenty of support from the native SoS population and don’t have to fight JQ zergs that greatly outnumber them (which is the case for many other times of the day) but tier two has Kaineng. During ND’s time in WvW, Kaineng is probably the best server to compete against. Their Oceanic and SEA presence is probably the only one that rivals SoS (and many guilds on Kaineng are formerly tier one) so if SoS were to drop to tier two, I strongly suspect the best fights for ND would be in tier two. Kaineng doesn’t look to be leaving tier two any time soon (not unless they get more coverage judging from their match with BG) so the Oceanic/SEA scores between the two servers will be a lot of fun to watch (hopefully). If ND did transfer off, they’d be missing out. This is all assuming SoS drops to tier two

At least one thing good game out of this. Agg and FoE are paying our “subscription” fees this month. Hopefully BG doesn’t start losing in the future, otherwise ArenaNet’s coffers might see another boost.

Wait, so FoE and AGG are bandwagon guilds that can’t stand not to be in T1? This sounds rather odd coming from JQ who collected that exact description server wide. My guess is, had they chose to go to JQ when all the others bandwagoned there, they would be described slightly different?

Kaineng’s troubles in T2 aren’t coverage, they vastly outnumber BG during Oceanic but can’t seem to push BG to spawn camp armed only with a handful of feisty commanderless pugs

Shiren is SoS. Given that I think he is more qualified than non SoS folks to make the statements he did and to be honest the chap writes a good interesting essay that is always worth a read so leave him alone

he maybe good at essays, but i am not going to comment about that because unlike him i dont make statements regarding topics i know nothing about. his statements are not truths regarding FoE. they are suppositions.

FoE has never bandwagoned any where and we will never have to.

kfarb.6732:

Anything that damages me is OP.

best line in the thread….

it is worse. i hear people calling out enemy numbers that are incorrect because they have not appeared on screen for them. its taking longer for them even for me now. ive had players hitting me with no one around me.. and no it wasnt a thief :P

I dont have any problems making money in WvWvW…the bags just keep droppin!

if you need to make some bank while in WvWvW come join us!

if you enjoy wvwvw and playing with people who also like to have fun… take a look at FoE

www.fistoftheempire.com

some awesome battles.. we are having a ton of fun.

put your great skills to good use and come play with us! Lots of fun and of course drunken PvP !

Magiofdeath.2745:

Human nature is rather interesting. Last week, SoS players were complaining that they were losing because it was a holiday, because you know, it wasn’t a holiday for SBI or JQ apparently. This week, SoS is all over the forums bragging and telling SBI and JQ to leave tier 1 and give up, because apparently everyone on SBI and JQ are quitters and should just quit. You’re right, SoS players gel well together as a server of stuck up “holier than thou” players. SBI seems a much friendlier community, and well, obviously I know about JQ’s community since I’m on the server and aside from a handful of bad eggs, community is overall friendly.

For everyone else, enough with the 2v1 accusations.

In before “Someone from JQ started the accusations”. I am aware of this, and I don’t agree with it, but SoS posters could of been more mature and just ignored that post instead of going on how SBI and JQ should just quit. Flex those E-muscles SoS. Stretch out that kitten.

there are always people who exhibit “bad behavior” including on your server. perhaps followg your own “advice” is the best advice LoL

as for your thoughts on SoS… my response is this statement.

Le Rooster.8715:

I just want to tell everyone that Sea of Sorrows no longer feels like a server anymore, it feels like one unified guild with many sub-guilds branching off it thanks to everyone who have made this possible with such effective communication between guilds.

we are a great community and I am glad I am a part of it.

@ Covergirl … your Jesus riding on Godzilla statement made me LoL at work!

ok so portals are:

game breaking because you cant counter against them.

game breaking because it overwhelms the battles with enemy numbers.

game breaking because it makes mesmers more important then other professions.

i am in a guild on a server that is currently in T1. we use portals and have had many a portal used against us. you have to be organized to use it and organized to defend against it. ie people who use a VOIP and people who know how to play as a team.
even so, are we always successful using it or defending against it.. no. but it is worth the challenge- it makes us try harder to succeed no matter what happens.

there are a lot of times we are overwhelmed by opposing forces – there are times we over whelm the other forces. i can tell you now that even if you limit the numbers in which people are portaled… over whelming forces will prevail anyway. organized groups can get around the map very quickly… portals only work x-amount of distance, so it wouldnt affect you getting overwhelmed ultimately anyway.

players who are savvy and organized enough, will come up with other creative ways to make their enemies succumb, to and including having the number of mesmers to still use portals…if they need to. for those who think its hard to kill a mesmer now because of invisibility… think of what theyll be like when theres more of them.. then what will need to be nerfed?

in my guild each person is valuable. proof of that i have several professions i take in wvwvw. we need our eles, necros, theifs, guardians etc etc just as much as our mesmers. maybe the only difference there is, that our members strive to know how to play their class well and strive to make an effort to use a build that benefits the team.

i really hate the nerf bat always being the first choice, when there maybe so many other options…

i cant grind pve anymore. if the grinding occurs while i am pvping… i dont care so much because at least im having fun.

i am hoping that ANET has the good sense to have the wvwvw gear in play soon.

i like the monkey idea.. but he would need to fling poo. which of course this blinds your enemy…. rendering him unable to attack you.

i would also like a cute white kitty, who can turn into a tornado of teeth and nails, that will damage and slow your target

:)

Malvader.7502:

This right here is why it needs to be change-

“To remove portals or water them down so they can’t function in the way they currently are you are changing how 90% of how WvW currently rolls for the majority of servers.”

No ONE ability should make up 90% of the tactics in W3. I’m pretty sure Anet didn’t design all the other features in W3 just so they can be avoided by portals. There will be an adjustment to it, and those who don’t think so are just deluding themselves.

can you please link where these stats are? id like to see it please. i havent seen the place that gives the stats “90% of the wvwvw population… use portals”, have you?

lol. where do people pull these figures from… oh wait.

also, i loved the suggestion that all the classes should be able to portal. think there is teeth gnashing now? holly cow, people….

Bunzy.8674:

The player base is already declining and its going to keep declining until they do something about it, if the changed or removed the downstate you would see alot of players start playing again.

im just asking out of curiosity where you are getting this information from? can you link the stats where it shows people have left the game because of the downed state? and will return when its changed or removed?

i can understand not liking something, but when people throw out statements like this, it invalidates the point.

so youre saying that two other servers cant kill one mesmer? wow. what does that make them then?

Esoteric.5490:

There are a lot of counters to a portal. If the group you are portaling into has a higher level of coordination than you, you get nuked.

The convenient thing, it stacks you all up in one place where enemies can just pile on AoE after AoE. If your group isn’t organized coming out of a portal, you will die. Also, portals take 1 second to activate after the exit is placed, giving the enemy plenty of time to cast on top of it or guardian bubble or anything.

If you think portals are game breaking, maybe you should learn to counter a tactic before you decide it needs to be nerfed (which it already has been).

Time Warp only effects 5 people, golems can only move across a map with a series of mesmers portaling them (requiring coordination or they get left in an open field), portal has a longer cooldown, and heals/buffs only effect 5 players now so AoE will out damage almost any heal. It makes you spec for the situation and actually plan to layer skills and buffs on portal exit and place portals strategically rather than in the middle of an enemy force.

Sounds like you need to study up on some WvW tactics or get a more organized guild because groups that are portal bombing successfully are generally in VoIP.

Blame coordination, not rendering problems. Portals have been unsuccessful as often as they are successful in Tiers 1 and 2 for the past 6 weeks. I don’t know where you all have been.

this^^

i really hate seeing everything always dumbed down, to where people dont have to meet a challange. sorry but thats what this is.

maloki.3527:

There are plenty of counters to these balls. and effects that “target more than 5 people” even if it might counts as an AoE.

We’ve done amazing splits and killed off a 40man ball in 15s (felt like it at least, but think 30s if that helps you), with just about 25 people, because we knew what skills and utilities to use!

this^

its actually very easy to counter. i would rather figure out a solution then just have everything changed thats …a bit of a challenge? thats more boring to me.

Thundar.3910:

Cannot wait until this Culling/Rendering issue is addressed, it seems SoS’s total “strategy” revolves around abusing the hell out of this bug. Most people are leaving WvW due to this alone. Enjoy your “win”.

Thundar.3910:

Most of the fun has been completely sucked out of this match. While I would agree that there has been very little exploiting seen(atleast from my time in WvW this week) What I have seen is the massive abuse of the culling issue. I’ve watched zergs port 10 yards to use culling to their advantage, theives using it to defend camps or towers far longer than they should have. Watching a zerg that vastly outnumbers its enemy use the AoE killer, “the ball” to negate the defense of those with far less numbers than themselves.

While all these things are considered “fine” in the context of a non-exploit, they serve no other purpose than to ruin any chance of fun to be had by either side. Winning is great, but to win at the cost of fun, in a non-ranked aspect of the game by any means, including, lets just say “sketchy” means does far more harm than a blowout.

We’ve seen what Anet does to things that cause an imbalance within the game, that cannot be fixed in a reasonable manner, they remove it completely. With the rampant abuse seen in the last few days I would not be surprised if some of these class abilities(from WvW) and “tricks” are removed outright to prevent this kind of imbalance.

ok. i just have to ask. you honestly think SoS’s total strategy revolves around porting? i can see why you view this as a problem. seems that perception does make a difference.

my guild loves it when people try to portal in. its the one sure fire way of knowing where the enemy is about to “pop”.

we all have culling issues and yes they are horrible, but we take full advantage of the portalees…

Goblin Beet Farmer.3045:

The real issue is the fact the “tactic” takes advantage of occlusion culling.

if this is the real issue, then portals actually make it easier to know where your enemy is.

weve wiped out portal enemies, because we knew where they were going to appear….
im just astounded how simple solutions are, yet they seem to be missed so easily.

tried to W3 tonight.. wow. just horrible. so now in addition to invisible enemy.. we have lag from hell.

i love this game. but this will kill it for me. W3 is what i enjoy the most and not having fun in it as it is.

Deboog.1847:

ACME.2015:

If it stops enemy players from obtaining more siege weapons that they’d use against my server. I will do it. It’s PvP. It’s competitive. Sorry.

I can grind mats in PvE for siege and get much more siege per day. You aren’t stopping me from getting siege, you are just making the game worse for everyone on the other server.

no. its only making worse for you. this is only your opinion, since you do not speak for an entire server. you may have others that feel the same, but you telling thers what to do or not do, based on your “feelings” on how things should be done, doesnt change anything.

red = dead once i log into wvwvw. i dont care if you picking flowers, your nose or jumping.

I have had an account since the first closed beta. Since I started head start I have been restricted as to the amount of gold/silver/copper I can send.

Monday I sent a gold to a guild member, was unable to send any more money after that. Yesterday all I could send was 20 silver. Its like this every day.

I am our guilds logistics officer and this is making my job imposssible. I am even restricted in the amount of items I can move in and out of the Guild banks.

I have earned well over the amount of money I am able to send, but I constantly get a message that says I have exceeded the amount of money a new account can transfer.

I get the same message when I try moving mats in the bank.

please help. thank you.