Guild Wars 2

So this was the DDoS meta. Why outlast or snowball when you can just dc the other team. I believe this meta will evolve into whoever can dc the other team faster. #esports

/salty

-In all seriousness I feel sorry for ArenaNet. They were the real victim of the tournament.

Gotta pay the toll of killing his spirits. the 12k hp ele got instagibed by a spirit. l2p noooobbbbbbbb

This would be the single most best thing ever if anet did this. Skovos has not only mastered all the elements but is also a genius. plzplzplz do it <3

Stealth.9324:

Zenith.7301:

Spirit also has a 240 sec cd unlike elixir r, so it should obviously be better. Engineer gets elixir r AND supply crate. Compare elites, not utilities.

Do you want to trade your spirit with my Elixir R? I would take it any day given

I’ll trade ye man. I rather have double elixir R any day. that’s of course I could have your supply crate as well

DXIEdge.2789:

I was under the impression you were good to go Xeph

This is a sad day for the tPVP community and for PAX. Curse would’ve been the best team to represent the game.

thisss hue /cry /cry

dam man, I wanted Xeph to buy me icecream
For real though that really sucks and I’m sorry it happened to you guys. Well, gl and hf to CC.

Battosai.5620:

think i’ve said it quite a few times already, one change that would adress a lot of the issues currently occuring in the meta with condition providing too much pressure with little to no counter play to procc related traits and abilities ( such as dhuumfire, sun spirit procc, incendiary powder) would be to change the procc chance to 100% with the following conditions being met :
- add a skill icon to the affected players health bar that informs opposing players that his next attack will apply burning ( just like doom sigil f.e. )
- if the attack misses due to blind,block or dodge or some other circumstance the internal cooldown is triggered

this would allow for actual counter play, spam would be less effective and you’d actually need to put some thought behind your actions and count dodges, defensive skills etc. to apply the same pressure you did before.
it’d also help people to see who is actually doing it right – it’s really hard to gauge any skill in this current meta unfortunately.

furthermore – controllable pet skills, make it happen!

omg need controllable pet skills naoooooooooooo. my gw2 life will be complete when it happens.plzzzzzzzzz

HotCocoa.3625:

The funny thing about spirits is that they aren’t really that different now than they have been for about, what, 4 or 6 months? It’s just now people are using them. The biggest difference is the combination of vigorous spirits and spiritual knowledge—but that change makes sense.

Another issue with people complaining about the “meta” is a lack of vitality being ran. I’m not the most advanced player but so far it seems like no one really runs builds with vitality.

At the end of the day, the community laughed and laughed about spirits. They made fun of rangers. Little did they know how good spirits were.

I’ve been a long time lurker and I remember a thread on the ranger forums a long time ago where some guy was trying to show the benefits of a longbow/carrion/sun spirit build. I’m pretty sure he got laughed out of the forums.

Who’s laughing now?

The problem with this game is too many people with too much time on their hands to complain about a game design they know nothing about, really. Because everyone thinks they are “pro”. Well, you’re not.

Sol, you’re not a pro. Either are you, Zenith.

Just saying because it’s easy to criticize designers when you’re not on the other side of the desk actually making the game—designers not only have to make their customers happy, they have to meet deadlines, meet the expectations of their superiors, and manage all the normal day to day stuff we manage.

Cut them some slack.

Pretty much all of this.

boring meta is boring….

O gawd plz nerf my unbeatable glass cannon necro. I’m too stronk, too powerful, too good looking! Luckily I made this fancy umbrella a month ahead for all the tears. You should’ve came prepared mr. op.

I hear taking away 1 stunbreak destroys your class. if stun break is that strong why not run 3 on ur utility bar hue hue

A class with so many flaws, and counters must be OP. plz nerf plz. 3 days of crying w/o even thinking on these forums is pretty standard. did I say 3 days? I ment 10 months

Trap ranger, BM ranger and S/d thief. No bias here

I agree w/ the op. I would like the game to be as diverse as possible, not everyone copying the same build from twitch, and spectator mode. I don’t play this game anymore but diversity, was one of the things that made gw2 good.

leashmaygoss.2140:

Haters gonna hate!

1. Engineer
2. Necro
3. Warrior
4. Ele
5. Thief
6. Ranger
7. Mesmer
8. Guardian

Bro they aren’t suppose to know yet!shhh!

NaturalPortman.9562:

Vyndetta how do you counter slick shoes?

NaturalPortman slick shoes cannot be countered.
Stability for everyone else :P

Narcarsis.5739:

Vyndetta.9415:

Attrition thief: N/a(lf the build pst)

Rainbow Unicorn Death Blossom: http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-c33V-BFSwk0-S5FOkd0;9;6TJJ;437A19-26-KZV8-BX4jwmAjwmA2Fe

Pyrial.2917:

Vyndetta.9415:

Attrition thief: N/a(lf the build pst)

D/P bs:

0/30/30/10/0-float the final 10 points

ty sirs

Rambodacious.7495:

Hello friend,

Dunno why you posted all this stuff. I made a post addressing this very thing in the “how to counter a ranger” thread.

If classes are forced to bring builds and abilities that are sub-optimal for fighting the other 7 classes in an attempt to have a CHANCE at beating a trap ranger it means ONE thing.

Rangers are overpowered.

But hey, thanks for spending a large amount of time trying to prevent a nerf to a build that obviously needs one. Peace.

I just wanted to go a bit more in-depth and put my point of view up with my tips. Most of the build in the meta atm are to change just a 1 skill/trait for one or two of the 5 players and you will annoy a trap ranger a lot. Some of those builds added do well in the meta, yet drastically annoy a ranger.

No matter whats fighting what, each player has a chance at winning. Be careful on what you wish for on those nerfs btw. peace.

Miku Lawrence.6329:

Naito.5693:

I almost spilled my coffee when I opened your necromancer build.
Thanks for the good laugh.

Not as good as the Glamour/Condition mesmer. I can go make guides about classes I don’t play (7 of them) with the help of a builder and a lot of theorycrafting. Then I’d pretend it to be good.

Hello Nim <3

Your loss =\

Naito, NA > EU <3

Nimraphel.7819:

The Necro builds are laughably bad. Really. This gotta take the prize as worst conceived guide I’ve read in a long, long time.

Here is my the build i personally use and yes I main necro (hate it love it).
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNArYWjMat7xbSb87JApCPH9g4gTm6R5pfOA;TsAAzCpo+y8l4L7XuvkftqYUxcBA
I was just adding builds that some players used and did well with. All three of those builds are great but are mainly to get focused down, survive, yet do absurd damage (the NA necro meta). One of you posters said that GM trait for scepter is a must take, it is honestly not that great when you can get more survivability when you know 4 people will focus you every single game. However, I personally take the trait because I play passive agressive and fits my playstyle.

If anyone has any questions about ranger or any of the other classes, don’t hesitate to whisper me in-game or send me a message on the forums. If I can’t help you, I’ll send you to an expert on the subject who does. Give me criticism, trolling, and feedback. Thanks and GL.

Team Fights: Ranger in team fights are very nice focus targets. They can get cc chained from full to 0 easily since they have no real stun breaker. They are very susceptible to burst in team fights, but the trap ranger is very strong to sustained. Bringing 1 or 2 wall reflections/deflections on your team will be very harsh on the opposing teams ranger.

Small fights: Ranger in a small fight synergizes very well with most classes, so these are very hard. Depending on what the other classes are in the small fight, the ranger is still a good first target to attack. mass cc burst is extremely strong in these fights because in the small fights, most of the time, that trap ranger doesn’t have a guardian by his side. This means he has 0 stability to fend off that burst.

Thanks for reading, sorry you had to read my bad grammar skills. (I know it is a lot to read and majority of you probably skipped it all anyways :P). I’ll fix this guide and make it cleaner later if I’m not too lazy of course.

Engineer: Whether you are running condi burst or power burst engi, it’s the same like the other burst classes, be surprising with your burst. As a power engi, you can stay at range and do well against trap rangers and wait for them to get close to do your burst. As a condi burst engi, the most important things are to get your burning and confusion stacks on them. They are weak to confusion and burning wears the ranger down over time. Use your condi removal elixirs when you have conditions so you negate most of the rangers damage. If you bring your elite supply crate, it makes it even easier for you. Supply crate can do a good 20k damage or more over its duration. With the 4 second immobilizes from the crate the ranger should be even easier to burst down. If the ranger has the point you want to play off point with your grenades. With the arsenal of blind nades and pistol blinds, it will be even easier to win against them.

Builds:(fill in the blanks)
Condi build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqalspSXHxSfF17ICoC6loHPGlNZfewWPIEC;TIAg1CuA
power build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQFAUlspSXHxSfF17IyoCAgoHPGlNZfewWtFEC;TUAg0Cno0RkjMIA

Warrior: 100 blades warrior is very strong against ranger. if a warrior pops the trap rangers stun break and catches a ranger in a 100 blades they are toast. If you can’t catch the ranger in a 100 blades, 1 whirlwind or eviscerate will bring them to half health. Another build that gives trap ranger trouble is the shout hammer warrior. Yes, I know this seems like a noob build but it’s very effective against them, especially in a 2v2 situation. The mass cc with condi removal with 6k burst heals is very strong. All of those things counter ranger effectively and can make them nearly useless in small fights and team fights.
Builds: 100blades http://teampz.com/threads/roaming-greatsword-warrior.19/
Hammer heal http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAS3engO08YyDSBBFhAApALuOFUSVAu0DxQLNA;TsAgzCmoyyklILbWuskZtEZIyuBA

Guardian: Ranger is suppose to counter guardian completely, but guardian can beat/deal with them. I’ve slayed many guardians over my trap ranger career, but their are ways for a guardian to be quite annoying and even beat a trap ranger. As a bunker guardian, you will lose the fight overall but you can delay a lot of time for teammates to help. Skills like sanctuary, wall of reflection, shield of the avenger are all very strong against ranger. Use shouts when a ranger is about to burst you with traps/shortbow so you take minimal damage. Dodging their traps and invuln the traps should be the bunker guardians top priority. Use your shield of absorption off your shield to stop burst as well. If you use sword, try and blind traps with sword 2 and use sword 3 to stop crossfire burst and it will negate any traps being thrown. If you are using a hammer, cc the trap ranger whenever you are not getting bursted. Don’t be aggressive when fighting a ranger, but don’t let them free fire on you. I’ll add more later maybe to the dps guard but her is both builds (obviously their are variants)

Builds: Bunker: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUQQNAseSlUgqCnFSPEm4ESmCDEBxegRcUHdpwhkIA;TsAA1CmoyyklILbWuskZt+Y8xsBA
EU style
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQRApd8elUgqCnFyvDf4ESmiVCBxegRfUHdpwhkIA;TwAgzCmoyyklILbWuskZtIY0w+j5HA
Dps builds(I’ll add the other maybe later)
Bring wall of Reflection
http://teampz.com/threads/kaypuds-offensive-guardian.35/

Ranger: I won’t go into detail about trap ranger vs trap ranger, but obviously whoever avoids the traps the most will most likely win. Beastmaster rangers can do very well against trap ranger, but it’s up in the air on whoever is fighting for the point.

Builds: Trap Ranger/BM Ranger
http://teampz.com/threads/tanky-trap-ranger.22/
http://teampz.com/threads/melee-ranger.819/

The Almighty, Nero Vitus’s Condi Mesmer Build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgQQNAsaWlwzqqHVTrGa9IxpCMH1jtD+vX6BvnduB;TsAgyCqoGzMmYMbUuxkjt+Ysw8DA

Standard http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAsdWlwzyp3UTrGa9ICqHgn29dkU0asWJF82FC;TsAg0CvoqxUjoGbNuak1s+YAx8DA

Elementalist: D/d s/d s/f d/f Staff. Almost all the weapon sets can deal with Ranger well. If you want to counter a ranger you want to go with S/f. Focus has so many projectile barriers. Those projectile barriers make it so a ranger cant cast traps and do his shortbow damage. Along with a 25 second condi clear on the weapon set, its pretty obvious why this does well against ranger. When you fight a ranger on any of those specs you want to be very cautious when using abilities, because one mess up is very unforgiving. Time your abilities wisely, because ranger vs ele puts the elementalist skill to the test. Armor of earth trait, + cleansing water, is so strong against ranger. Ether renewal and signet of restoration are great against rangers. 15 second condi clear heal is very powerful. One secret tip I will somewhat give out (sorry skovos), is one of the elementals on the elite is very strong against trap rangers. When you are getting bursted is when you need to dodge the traps or blow a cool down. Los and regening helps a lot when fighting rangers. if something gets messy you can exit the fight with ease and try again (like a thief almost). You always want to play aggressive but not too aggressive because you need to be cautious of how many condi’s you have on yourself.

Builds: Any weapon combination works http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEQQJArdhEmibyR4gjDAkHmcCLjChUeAAA2A

Hello, my name is Vyndetta and I’ve played Trap Ranger since release in High Lvl Tpvp. I have had a lot of questions on how to deal with Ranger, and complaints on how overpowered trap Ranger is. Take these tips however you want, if this guide helps only one person then I’m happy

Inc lots of writing

Here is my guide on how each class speced a unique way(yet are useful in Paids) can deal with Ranger. These specs and tips may be unforgiving if played poorly but if played well, are rewarding. All these tips apply to 1v1’s in tpvp as well to 5v5’s tpvp. Also, some of these builds are not fully made on purpose (you will have to figure it out).

Caution
Some of these builds take practice and thinking. You can’t make a new character and copy a spec and think you will do well right away.

Necromancer- in a 1v1, necromancer vs ranger is a tossup. Why do I say that? whoever transfers condis the longest/resist the other ones condis the most will win the fight.
Tips: Proc the Rangers Condi removal empathic bond. Empathic bond removes all condis every 10 seconds from the ranger. Once you proc empathic bond, blow your condi load on the ranger and his pet. most of the necromancers condis are AoE so it’s quite easy to stack them on the pet as well. Use epidemic on the pet when you blow that huge condi load on the ranger. Fear as much as you can to annoy and do absurd dmg at ease. You also want to transfer the condi’s on yourself to the ranger at the right times. The right times is when you eat traps and have mass bleed stacks on yourself. Eating traps as a necro is very good, you almost want to time and eat those traps on purpose so that ranger does no damage, yet they take a large amount of dmg. The most important thing to do as a necro for survival, is to blow Consume conditions (your heal) when you either don’t have a condi transfer yet have a lot of conditions or your entangled.
Builds: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQQQNArYWjMat7Nbyb87JAJFPDdkigJm6R5pfOA;TsAgyCuo+y8l4L7Xuvkft+YEwcBA
http://teampz.com/threads/tanky-epidemic-necro.833/

Thief: I personally don’t play this class, but I will try to give some tips from what hurts me from a thief as a trap Ranger.
Tips: Burst D/p, Attrition D/p, Burst p/p. Burst is very strong against ranger. even if the ranger can react to their burst, it is very hard for the ranger stay alive vs them. Another thing why D/p and p/p is strong, they both have interrupts. You can chain it on a trap rangers heal or on their dps. Thieves have the ability to reset, which allows them to gain full health and get another chance of their burst on the trap ranger. Another thing why their burst is so strong, Basilisk Venom goes through a trap rangers traited shared anguish 90% of the time (eww more ranger bugs). Attrition D/p is strong because they can summon thieves to do their dps, and eat traps, while they keep going stealth and backstabbing on stealth cd. They can eat traps, then stealth and be at full hp again. They do this till the rangers traps are really on cd. Then they pop their dmg on the ranger. Last thing about d/p thieves, they have a blind field. Blind field can eat spike trap and make the other traps almost useless.

Builds:
p/p
http://teampz.com/threads/pistol-pistol-unload-thief.691/
Caed’s D/p
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-c3RV-BFSwk0-5-FOFd0;9;4OT;0E28-59A;44;0LNV4-BX4Ewk2Ewk25Bb
Attrition thief: N/a(lf the build pst)

Mesmer: This another class I don’t play but are tips from my experience. One of the weaknesses to Ranger is Confusion. Condi mesmer hard counters ranger, but shatter mesmer can deal with ranger (if played correctly). You want your clones to eat traps, and invuln traps as much as possible. Most importantly, you want to keep distance. This means letting a point get neuted for survival is necessary. Your phantasms will do a good amount of dmg to the ranger. This means let them do their ability to wear down the ranger. You also want to proc the rangers shared anguish trait before you shatter. This is so you can stun them with cry of frustration when you are shattering. In Addition to that, you want to proc empathic bond trait before the shatter, they will have a ton of confusion stacks after you do that nice burst. Obviously you don’t want to make your shatters obvious or else you will do 0 dmg with them. Rangers can switch to to sword and evade all that burst if they see it coming. Feedback + null field + arcane thievery are all hard counters to ranger. In tPvP if you can’t handle the ranger, I’d advise bring 1 or 2 of those utilities to deal with them.

Ranger has not been buffed at all since release. If anything, they have been stealth nerfed over the past 5 months. And you want to Nerf/change them? Anet has fixed about 15% of the known bugs rangers haves on this forum.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Ranger-Bug-List/first

And half of those fixed bugs are underwater fixes. Fix the other 85% or so then you can nerf/change a not even overpowered class.

Trap rangers have so many counters to them aswell, just like every other class. Plz Fix the 3 out of the 5 buged and mostly useless trait lines so I can play another decent spec. Thanks

P.S. I’m flattered all these players(Other posts/in-game) over the past month have been complaining nerf a class that hasn’t changed at all, yet has arguebly the most bugs of all the classes. Not to mention, the class was arguebly the worst class beside the so underpowered engi(good joke)

P.S.S Be careful what yall wish for

<3 Vyndetta

Nier.2478:

Java mentioned a team running two Long Bow Warriors back in SOTG. People believe Java implied that PZ was the only guild that could beat The Silent Threesome, my guild.

This rumor however is not true. We’ve been beat by teams other than PZ such as ND, HHaL, QT and etc simply because of a few simple facts: we refused to use Elementalists and Mesmers in our team comps. More-so we also refused to use Trebuchets and Resurrection Signets and game changing skills such as Time Warp. We would literally run an all carry comp without peels + condition cleansing. All because we all felt like playing DMD (Dante Must Die) mode.

TL;DR PZ isn’t the only team that can beat my team. So long as you have factors such as Trebuchet, Elementalists, or Mesmer, you have it easy against us.

-Schwahrheit (Leader of The Silent Threesome, the guild that runs double Long Bow + GS Warriors that Java mentioned at SOTG)

Don’t defend the power of the longbow hero and young thadeus.

I’m pretty sure java just wanted to say players need to try new things and new comps. So many great builds haven’t been touched yet but the majority of players are just following the meta. Be different plz like the longbow hero team

ilJumperMT.4871:

Bla bla hate javas build bla bla some good points made bla bla ranger pride f yea blabla

I’m sorry but don’t hate on a build and expecially the player. Their are reasons why he speced the way he did, just like their are reasons why you speced a certain way in that bm build.

1-5: wep skills
heal: Shift-G
utlitiy: f,g,e
Elite: R
Pet attack: Shift-E
Pet skill: C
Switch pets: Q
Return Pet: Shift-Q
Dodge: V
Switch Weps: `
Call target/take target: Shift-T/ T
Stomp/Rez: X

daydream.2938:

There will always be a bit of rock/paper/scissors in 1on1.
But , in terms of tourny meta viability. Rangers seem to do very well 1on1.

Out of curosity what class/spec does give rangers the most trouble?
I mean, i could think of ways to beat a ranger 1on1, but im not sure those specs would be viable in tourny play which is whats relevant here.

necro vs ranger?
Maybe thats the one, its a match up i dont see very often.

Necro vs ranger is Rng/luck on both sides. whoever gets the mass condi on the target for the longest period of time usually wins (it’s hard to do since they both have condi removal and necro condi transfer)

I’m personally not going to tell you what gives Rangers trouble because I play a ranger and I don’t want the meta to change to anti ranger :P. Their are a lot of specs that give ranger trouble, not that that helps you haha

FOR YOUNG THADEUS CASTLE

p.s. that build instagibs faster than a macro’ing EU thief

Rangers aren’t the best 1v1 class. Their is no such thing as best 1v1 class. Every class/spec has a counter and ranger does have many counters aswell. Players say rangers are the strongest 1v1 class right now because players favor the ele/mesmer/gurd meta. And well, those classes are laughable when they 1v1 a ranger with their standard meta specs.

P.S. Ranger too stronk underwater

yes do itttttttt. Bootypop rank 1 underwater champion of the sharks demands thissssss

Sadly we just have to wait >.<

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Powerr.3649:

Thank you and here are the builds:

Powerr’s S/D Spec
Powerr’s Hybrid D/D
Java’s Tanky Trap Ranger
Kaypud Build
Vyndetta’s build is a secret to all man-kind, you will never figure out the masterminds secrets!

We hope to go large with teampz.com having it act as the meta guide site for guild wars 2. We want top players, any player really, posting their builds and guides much like TSM does with solomid.net

Help it get popular :P

As I expected, the 2 rangers are using the only 2 semi viable builds rangers have, tanky trap condis and evasion tank. This is my problem with the class.

Believe it or not, Ranger has more than just trap build. I do agree though, if the class had some better trait lines and weapons(and dmg increase) meshed well with those traits, their would be many viable builds. Sadly this is a problem for the majority of the classes if not all =\

Sprawl.3891:

Vyndetta.9415:

Sprawl.3891:

blah blah cry blah blah cry blah blah blah

After seeing you try to troll and cry on the Rift forums, I would think you would get better after a couple years. Sadly you still disappoint =\

when did I ever cry on rift forums? I played warrior and rogue the two most powerful pvp classes. glad you remember me though cuz I have no clue who you are. wild bill wannabe is my guess. keep striving to be a big fish in a kiddie pool and act like people acknowledge it or care.

Sorry, didn’t mean to put “cry on the rift forums”, but you went from trolling on those forums to crying on gw2 forums. =\

I play gw2 because its fun and enjoyable with friends. I don’t care what people think of me on a video game….loll

You can counter the 100 nades build with Feedback from mesmer (confusion hurts them hard as well). Also stay at ranged with them or else you will get hurt. Running a somewhat tanky build with constant pressure will also kill the engi build. Hope that helps GL.

Sprawl.3891:

blah blah cry blah blah cry blah blah blah

After seeing you try to troll and cry on the Rift forums, I would think you would get better after a couple years. Sadly you still disappoint =\

Good thing playing no bunkers and winning is so much more fun and troll

Amityel.5324:

hey make wells for necro useless so we will have one viable build only really great lol

You have way more than 1 viable build, have you played necro for more than an hour ? sorry to sound harsh but don’t be ignorant.

AOE is defintily way too strong. They don’t need to make AoE useless, but it dumbs down the game to just aoe everything because its so much stronger when you compare it to single target dmg. AoE dmg also promotes aoe’ing downed targets instead of finishing them. It also doesn’t promote rezing. Its one of the main reasons why people bring rez signets and why those are so op right now(which is another problem).

A lot of times on my necro for example, if i see someone rezing i can lay wells and use aoe dmg and even 2-3 players can’t rez them (all of those players die in the process) because the aoe is so strong.

A lot of builds in the current meta are getting carried by AoE and are overpowering builds that should be viable. Those builds that aren’t viable right now are because they have less aoe or none at all.

Yep sadly you have to wait for a second to make sure you quickness stomped thje target.

Nero.8623:

Stealthing removes the target over your head.

Good day.

Nero pretty much sumed up this thread. ggwp

I still love you Satay

like the idea friend. add me to 1v1’s and paid tournies NA. Ranger of course

lol is this a joke? Bout time someone cried about rangers.

the combo is easily avoided its really not op. You can instagib a thief with a normal dps class since they are pure glass cannon with their no toughness and low health pool.

Strong thief, Great player. He is the worst type of thief to go up against. just instagib trains you all day qqqqqqqqq

NOOOOOoOOO!!! don’t nerf super 5 ele pride comp

Warrior: Zclipse Op
Guardian: intense
Worse Guardian: Montage (afks during paids)
Necro: N/a
Mesmer: xyrkain (of course)
Ranger: whats a Ranger?
Thief: Jumper = Ruin= Deeja > Payne
Ele: Elepocalypse, apprentice Payne
engi: Dragon slayer Knockout

Jimin.4051:

Gronzy – Guardian http://www.twitch.tv/Gronzy
Gronzy – Ele
Gronzy – Engi
Gronzy – Warrior
Gronzy – Mesmer
Gronzy – Thief
Gronzy – Ranger
Gronzy – Necro

Hiba taught gronzy how to play

Great player. GL to you apollo