Guild Wars 2

Hullo, Guild Wars 2’ians!

Just wanted to say thanks and goodbye to…well, the people of WvW in Guild Wars 2! I been playing this game for 2+ years with 1 and 3/4 of it being in WvW.

I started off in Whiteside Ridge, moved Gunnar’s Hold, Blacktide, back to Gunnar’s Hold – Desolation….and finally, Piken Square.
Piken has been my home for so long and I consider it my “home server”.

Enough history though, I know how you all get bored of it enough when you were in school/ in school =D.
The main point of this post was to share my appreciation with all the people of WvW…Whether it be my server fighting you or in Piken Square -: Thanks!
You made all my evenings be great and glorious ones! I had so much fun it’s quiet hard to comprehend it.

Last of all, to my Guild, [RaW] Sassari. Props to them for dealing with my kitten -kitten-.

Anyway, Thanks for the fun, alla you!

Made a Goodbye Video summing up all the fun we had and stuff.

Thanks and Happy Hunting’s to you all!

Kittin to the top ^ was jking about [KISS] no rage plz…..just “Shake it Off” as taylor swift says

Aye, it’s a kitten for people who’ve been so used to the old BL’s and suddenly these kittens start pulling up.
I’ll be honest with ya, Spike, I hated the BL’s. All the Asura – style thing don’t match my tongues textures + lots of the fights now are about chokes and all….well “more” choke -point – figthing.
Yet, with a good Guild, like [KISS], I kind of started to like it a bit more. guess it all goes around the groups u follow with.

Wow! I was thinking that I was the only one who ever thought of this idea but hey! I guess I know why they say “it’s a small world”….really small.

Anyway, if the dev’s do take a look at this it would be – really – something because it would change bronze servers to come up a bit in the rankings …next thing you know we see Desolation in low rankings at Silver League! Lol!

Anyway, i’m just ranting, good idea, was nice talking to everyone and if they dev’s see this; HI DEV’S

I’m sorry but I don’t completely understand what the “fix” meant for Phase Retreat. Care to explain? ^^

Half my mind goes:
-On the fact of which the Mesmer Class is being proclaimed to be the Highest most Superior class in comparison to any other of the 5 – I do agree.

In my eyes, Mesmer’s, have the only ability to be able to be “stretchy” – as you morguls call it, and by being so one who has mastered the class – such as I have – can confuse the opponent even deeper then the usual standards, for instance the opponent can know the “Build” or “Spec” – as you say – but with skill you can change your gameplay to be less predictable.

In my other half
God *%&:"@ I feel hell o’va crai crai and shag the spag playing Mes, yo :P

Vash, thank you so much for posting this. I’ve been waiting for this for so long- counting the seconds xD.
Love your offensive play, very on-point and precise- not many Mesmer’s like you, a real inspiration and my Mentor in Shatter always xD

Hullo!
I really, really need help choosing a sword skin to match my armor!
Any help would be really awesome, I would appreciate it a lot!
My armor is:
Head Piece: Pit Fighter Helm
Shoulder: Avenger’s Shoulderplates
Breastplate: Armageddon Breastplate
Trousers: Armageddon Leggings
Hands: Avenger’s Gauntlets
Feet: Avenger’s Footgear

Thank you all so much, and Happy Huntings!

Hullo, fellow Engineers!

Coming over from the Mesmer side of the forums to ask ya’ll if you could recommend me a suitable Healing Support Build for Engi :^)

See I started my Engi about…a week ago? And wow! I must say I am enjoying it very much indeed! So much buttons to push, so many options to choose from and so little time to think xD

Anyway, if anyone of you could help out a newbie Engi and recommend me a Build i’d really be thankful!

Cheers From The Mesmer Side!
Happy Huntings!

Yes, I would still roll a Mesmer if I would have known the state of the Mesmer now.
A Mesmer to me is the thing that dragged me to this game. I didn’t know jack about this game, never heard of the prequel and only knew it had nice graphics and soundtracks.

When I first saw this game I looked over the classes on some videos but restricted myself to look at any gameplay of a Mesmer and…to be honest..I love it.

The style of it, gameplay mechanics, and the feel just suits my cup of tea. It’s unique.

LordByron.8369:

I disagree.
Despite everything elementalist still have seen the most severe nerfs.
To the point that had skils totally redesigned and Others nerfed of more than 200%.

Mesmer just recently saw some strong nerfs but its anet politic.
If its easy to play buff it.
If its hard to play nerf it.

We are talking WvW wise mostly, it could be that Ele’s got loads of skill changers or nerfs however your still viable in WvW. People rely on you for waters and AOE pressure, what do Mesmer’s have? A Veil, a Null Field and a Time Warp. 1/3 of these we use and people rely on us for it, the rest it’s a “Meh, only if you want to run it, we got enough Condi removal and + we don’t like bombing in one spot so you don’t need Time Warp”

Be happy Anet didn’t take away your water fields.

Wow! Amazing gameplay! Really enjoyed watching it!

My words exact…

I’m so…so disappointed right now. I mean, screw WvW Shatter Roaming! You have a bigger chance of making a Swap then trying to go Frontline Shatter in a raid.
Seriously I think i’m going to end up quitting this game. I can’t play nothing else only Shatter but Hey! woopoodiedoo!
Jesus..

BlackDevil.9268:

What about a magical mesmer book? Smthing like guardians have but then mesmer form with lots of dazes, boon share and controling conditions like chill, weakness and such.

Lol, not to be offensive or anything but it sounds kinda like a wanna-be-ish skill if you get what I mean. Would be cool, not gonna lie.

However back to the main topic, that’s a great idea! Maybe we can also do that if people get in range then they get some kind of Condition onto them. Like we’re a plague sort of thing.

I am sorry to say but I realy disagree with this post. I am a WvW’er and like most people know Illusions/Phantasms are a really bad source for damage considering the fact that if not placed well they die in 2.5 seconds.
After the Glamor nerf…there just wouldn’t be any place in WvW for Mesmer’s anymore…
Not to mention besides the fact that we have only 4 Shatter skills while we have more Illusion/ Phantasm Summoning skills. This could break the whole Mesmer theme and change the class entirely.

Infinite Defence is a new guild in RoF server. We are a Hard Core WvW organized guild with amazing Raid Commanders and are currently Recruiting people to join the guild.
We raid from 9pm GMT +2 for around 2 and half hours or +
We are doing trainings for people who wish to be better in their class in raids and show them the ropes if need be of a WvW Raid.
If you wish to join us then contact me in-game and we will take you in with open arms, however over the ideal idea of being a part of the guild and joining in Raids.

We give our full, and we wish you do the same.

Happy Huntings!

Crossplay.2067:

Curunen.8729:

I’d prefer change evade to invuln on hitting an enemy with one hit of blurred frenzy – that should negate retaliation completely.

And that would just cause retaliation to become worthless.

But that’s the point of the topic! To make Reta become worthless against Blurred Frenzy

eldenbri.1059:

win 1v1 vs each class at bronze, silver, gold

win 1v2 regular levels, bronze

win 1v3?

The Titles don’t mean kitten, depends on the player itself. You actualy never know whether he/ she is good or not, you only get a haunch of what skill they have.

Actualy I think so……..
Jesus I’m sorry, this is exciting to think about, but it’s scary too xD

Ah….well referring to your question, I have as a matter if fact no clue in Commanding on a Mesmer, dearest apologies, however I do not know what to tell you, and if I would tell you advice regarding to Commanding on a Mesmer it would be something that I would of thought of on the spot.
Happy Hunting ^.^

So….Benjamin Franklin is an ELE??? Since…you know, lightning and stuff….

Herby as in Herb The High? >.>

Xavi.6591:

This thread just proves the poor state the Mesmer class is in now, especially in wvw zergs.

Anet – revert Blinding Befuddlement, make Glamour builds work viable again.

There ARE other builds you know ._.
Although chances are slim as hell to be getting that back xD

ty all for your comments and feedback :D
much appriciated
EXCEPT for the ones that make me feel like I did a big mistake of being useless for a few days…….xD

Menaka.5092:

What’s the purpose of this? Just sticking with the commander won’t help much.

• you don’t provide much utility: immobilize from sword, timewarp and null field, very weak boon sharing (that other classes can do a lot better with a lot less investment in utilities/traits/gear)
• about null field: there’s no point in prolonging it’s duration, no group will stand inside it’s area of effect for that long. On top of that, Null field will cover “better” fields like chill/water for blasts for a longer time and you don’t want that
• mixed stats gear: why? only power/crit/ferocity makes sense in big groups, conditions will be removed very fast anyway
• no -condi duration from food or runes
• no stun breakers: you really want either blink or mantra of concentration
• very low damage
• mirror is worse than ether feast in pretty much any wvw scenario
• sigil of water is terrible, really: your group doesn’t need that, you don’t need that
• I never tested sigil of renewal but I suspect it’s the same
• if you want another on kill sigil, I would go for sigil of stamina instead of luck

As Doiid mentioned, and from my personal experience, at the moment, only shatter makes sense for the frontline: it provides one of the best utilities in game (boon stripping) and gives you better survival overall. If you want to be a little more tanky you can even go 4/0/4/0/6 (you lose a bit of boon removal potential) or 0/2/4/2/6 (but you lose your boon removal potential).

Edit: I don’t think you are “running supportive”; with this build you are at best useless and at worst a liability to your group. Mesmer support is not about boon sharing (guardians) or healing (guardians, eles, warriors). Mesmer support is boon stripping, veil, portal, timewarp, focus pulls, sword/staff dazes with longer duration or interrupts that immobilize keeping people away from the regroups…

Well now that’s what I like to hear ^^
Our role, yup been fussing with that thought in me head a while now.

BlackDevil.9268:

Xaurniven.2065:

In my opinion this Build is not meant for Beginners, practice with it or you will get smashed in the clash

I’m sorry to say, but any braindead monkey on mesmer can survive with 1900 toughness &1590 vitality, not even counting guard stacks on that.
You deal 0 damage. There’s no reason for a mesmer to stay full melee all the time unless you’re trying to tag for bag at big blobs.

You also said ‘’when stunned, just use phase retreat’‘? You do know that phase retreat doesnt break the stun, but only ports you away right? And there’s a decent chance you will even port on a worse spot.

I don’t understand any of these zerging builds tbh. There’s no reason in running anything else besides shatter. You can run 20-20-0-0-30 tanky spec when your guild actually needs help stripping boons and immobilizing targets, or you can run 10-30-0-0-30 nearly full zerker when you’re farming eb and chaining immunities. Anything besides that is kinda useless. You either deal no damage, have no survivability or your utility (such as boon removal or immobilizes) is bad.

Also, whats up with this mimic spam lol. If there’s 1 skill that’s unreliable its mimic, especially in large scale.

Your right I can run 10 30 0 0 30 or any other Zerker Build. However, not be offensive, I don’t care about that, I want to run supportive and not change my build entirely.

adelaide.6213:

I’m not really sold on this build. However, I’ve haven’t experimented too much with running PU in a melee train; on paper it sounds like a bad/not-really-effective idea. When you’re running with a melee train, you’re counting on your fellow warriors/guardians to soak up most of the aoe damage. What you need to provide for yourself is mostly stability and condi-cleanse for immobolize/cripple or else you’re going to get left behind and picked off. Unless you’re running at least 2 guardians consistently in your party, I don’t see you having sufficient stability to stick tight to the tag during multiple pushes. Keep in mind Unsteady Ground/Line of Warding/Static Field are unblockable so Mimic and Aegis will have no effect.

Where PU does shine in this build though is when you do stray behind, you will be able to get back to your commander with less hassle. However, having only one source of stealth besides veil to utilize PU is questionable.

I also believe Illusionary Defense is not a good trait for melee train mesmers because your illusion uptime is too low because of cleave damage. You should swap out to Debilitating Dissipation/Manipulation CD.

Here are my proposed changes to your build (traits/skills only):

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAsfWl0npKtlqxMNUrNyqxY6Z2plTtUpvI7AA-TVzCABQcIAo7EAAwBCYKlDGcEASRbgO7PglSskfAASpk4R1fmTHwYKBDAgAQE6MHapAMRYE-w

In summary, I dropped 2 points in inspiration to pick up harmonious mantras for both the 3-charge mantra heal and stability. I also dropped PU and went for double traited blink because I think that this will aid your survivability more (very helpful with getting back on the tag if you’re out of position.) If you’re really confident about your stability, drop mantra of concentration for mimic (it will benefits from the same traits as blink.) However, do keep in mind that the stability mantra helps your party a lot as well.

In addition, I heavily recommend running energy sigils (endurance on swap) on both weapon sets. I would also run full Knight’s, adding in some Soldier’s if you prefer. I don’t like Lyssa runes in this build as well. Possible alternatives include Centaur, Traveler’s, Pack, (or Guardian if you’re using Mimic).

Also, as a side note, don’t forget that your own staff bounces can trigger your Mimic.

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TL:DR – PU aint gonna help you stick on your commander, only find your way back to him. Get Blink. Consider Mantras. Run Knight’s/Soldier’s.

Ty for the advice
Although I realy believe that the Boons you get from PU are key, are you sure about switching them out?
The idea with Energy Sigils is a great idea btw! And yeah maybe go with Knights too ^^.

^kitten, didn’t mean to say that I don’t prefer it, meant to say that this a build that will allow you to roam with Mele Train. Not touching big DMG

@everyone who said this build has 0 damage: I did not say this was a DMG build, this isn’t even a build I prefer, alls is me Guild Leader wanted a build to stick near the Mele Train.
This is 90% support, and it’s a support type that I prefer

Hello, Mesmer’s!

-Origin
So a few days back my Guild Leader asked if he could have that all the Mesmer’s try to stick as tight to the Mele Train as possible (in WvW). In the I tried Mantra Healing, but face it, it pretty boring (well to me it is), I tried just being bunkerie and place my TW/ Glamor when it was time….boring.
In the end I tried PU for god knows why and it took me complete by surprise.

-Build-
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAsfWlsnpUt9pxANUrNCvxY6ByIhTmyIlMgbB-TVzCABQcIAo7EAAwBCYKlDGcEASRbgO7PglSskfAASpk4R1fmTHwYKBDAgAQE6MHapAMRYE-w

So let’s start of with the Survival side of this, shall we?

Now we all know how fights start (well most if them); Veil.
Veil = PU, so there! Got off to a good start! Some nice Aegis, Protection, and Regen off to the start!
Next is clash (gulp). Now I got some good boons for survivability already, (I will most likely get Stability too). Now let’s zoom fast to one of the worst problems there can be; Hammerstun. I’m stunned and getting pounded, quick staff, Phase retreat, switch sword Blurred Frenzy. Ya..so there you go, could get out that pretty good ^^.
Need to go through Zerg?? Mimic! Got some reflect for a good 4 sec. Can also dodge a few times, get some clones up and Distortion with it + Chaos Armor for boons at the end.
So those are the Main things referring to the Survival side.

K so next part.
Traits!

-Deuling-
I use Deceptive Evasion to get a quick Distortion or to get some – damage income input from trait Illusionary Defense.
Blade Training/ Desperate Decoy/ Far-Reaching Manipulations can work with this no problem.

-Chaos-
PU- Survival Boons
Chaotic Dampening- need to have Phase Retreat ready ASAP, and need the extra Toughness.
Illusionary Defense- I will have at-least 1 clone up almost always.

-Inspiration-
Mendor’s Purity- I have my healing skill on low CD and I need this (duh) Survival.
Temporal Enchanter- my Guild Leader wants Glamor to be touched in Traits. Now this is what you prefer, if you want to use Mendor’s Purity at ready and want to be abit more supportive then go with Restorative Mantra’s.

Next Part!
Utility’s!

Signet of Inspiration- oh how I enjoy this skill! In about 2-3 clash I will go Chaos Armor + Heal + The Prestige and spread the love with the Signet. (However this can be switched out for Veil if you are needed for it, there’s a limit to how supportive you can be)

Mimic- I need the Reflect when going through enemy Zerg and getting away from tough situations like being chased by a Ranger- JUST KIDDING-

Null Field- Guild Leader wants Glamor on Mesmer’s and I prefer this then feedback so ce I’m with Mele Zerg and I can cleanse me self.

Mirror- I want the Reflect + low CD so Mendor’s Purity is right around the corner and I get a boon for 10 sec from Rune of Lyssa.

Next Part!
-Runes/ Armor/ Weapons/ Sigils/ Accessories-

-Rune’s and Sigil’s-
Lyssa!
Now ppl say that this got nerfed…and it did! But still usable! I simply love the 10 sec boon on Heal, and let’s face it, the major skill isn’t bad, cleanse on TW pretty nice ^^.
Also I have some nice Precision and Condition Duration from it so there’s some DMG to me build.

Staff: Perception- for DMG I like to focus on Precision.
Water- Survival
Sword: Renewal- Survival
Luck- The more Boons the Merrier.

-Weapons and Armor-

Sword: I use sword for when I see a lot if Downed players to tag em all, or when I think it’s clear to “Bomb” an area with the rest of the Mele Train. I use it mostly for Blurred Frenzy since it provides for both of these.

Torch: Prestige = PU = Survival.

Staff: Chaotic Dampening = more Toughness. I use it also for the boons it could give from Chaos Armor/ Storm and need Phase Retreat to be a bit more Mobile and get some clones up for -damage income

I use Soldier’s gear Atm for the + Power and Survival. And Rabid for Condition Damage and Precision on Weapons.

Accessories: I use Soldiers and Rabid for an equal amount if DMG and Survival.

-The Verdict-

In my opinion this Build is not meant for Beginners, practice with it or you will get smashed in the clash (hehe…rhyme). It is, however, a really fun build if you use it well, trust me, pretty intense xD
People would might say that this build is selfish and only is good for yourself, but what do you expect when you want a Caster to tag with Mele Train? This build can be called selfish to some points, but not all. Mesmer’s are supposed to be there for our TW and Veil (and sometimes other Glamor skills), but this build provides much more then only those 2-3, it gives the right survival Boons to counter an enemy Zerg.

Hope you all like this build, it’s still in testing so much appreciated for Feedback (not the Utility skill HA HA). Thinking of maybe switching around the Sigils abit.

Anyway, Happy Hunting everyone!

~Sera

(Being Edited due to spelling/ grammer)

I vote for 1 and 4
However if ArenaNet finaly decideds on actualy doing this update, when would it be?

eldenbri.1059:

This is what I use. You should definitely look at Natsu and Osicat’s builds.

I’m a medium-skill player, but I feel like I can win any one-on-one encounter with this build. It takes me about a minute to take a camp if I do it well with this build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhQQNAR7ansISZa2oGGqB3aGJ1IMd66LJHCK5XIA-TFjFABDcBAgb/hkUSpoaDRqKDAHBAjUmckSBGeIAXoR4MdBAqEMAACAr85CX4CXnFCw8CA-w

That’s a nice build, however in my opinion a Phantasm Build needs the minor trait in Inspiration Phantasmal Strength idk, maybe go with 1 2 6 5 0 since your kind of relying on you Phantasms to do the major damage.

Just an Opinion…

Jackums.3496:

Xaurniven.2065:

Jackums.3496:

Xaurniven.2065:

Jackums.3496:

Xaurniven.2065:

Jackums.3496:

If the Mesmer is competent and experienced with shatter themselves, they won’t lose to a shatter spec whilst running phantasm. The burst is too predictable and shatter lacks the sustain of phantasm builds. Plus, as a Mesmer you don’t have easy access to AoE or effective cleave to destroy the opposing Mesmer’s phantasms.

You’ll lose more often than not.

I tend to have Signet of Domination ready + pistol num# 5 skill so they have to take my damage whether they like it or not

Most Mesmers will run two stun-breaks, even in a phantasm build (in PvP modes), so I’d hardly consider this a solution. I run both Blink and Decoy when I play phantasm.

I said in WvW (Im a Roamer) did not mention PvP

I was referring to WvW; “PvP game modes” Plural.

Regardless, unless you’re running an interrupt build, using CC to interrupt phantasm summons is hardly reliable against a competent Mesmer. When I play phantasm, personally, I’ll open with a Decoy or Mass Invis to allow me to summon my phantasms from stealth. Then it’s GG because Mesmers lack cleave/AoE, and all I have to do at that point is evade the predictable shatter burst whilst my phantasms finish the Mesmer off.

It can work, if you get lucky, but it’s not a reliable counter.

That when I tend to use me Signet, when I see a Mass Inv coming up
And no…it didn’t have to be plural…..

So you don’t use it to interrupt phantasm summons, now?

>stun MI
>enemy stunbreaks
>enemy summons phantasm
>GG

I’m not sure why you’re being so argumentative. Are you trying to say that you always beat phantasm builds? Or that running Signet of Dom is a reliable counter?

Because I doubt both of those.

As Pyro said after 20-25 sec if he isn’t down then I’m in trouble, so I try to use my stun on signet when I start to see a Mass Inv, I now tend to (Ty to adelaide’s advice) I use 0-illusion Distortion to counter Phantasm Skill.
I am saying that Signet of Doom is a reliable counter, in my opinion the more stuns the better.
Sorry for sounding argumentative, my apologies

^agreed, I don’t see why you need the cleanse on Utility’s if you have Mendors Purity, since you do have a Condi Removal then maybe take Mirror Images? Or Mimic?

Jackums.3496:

Xaurniven.2065:

Jackums.3496:

Xaurniven.2065:

Jackums.3496:

If the Mesmer is competent and experienced with shatter themselves, they won’t lose to a shatter spec whilst running phantasm. The burst is too predictable and shatter lacks the sustain of phantasm builds. Plus, as a Mesmer you don’t have easy access to AoE or effective cleave to destroy the opposing Mesmer’s phantasms.

You’ll lose more often than not.

I tend to have Signet of Domination ready + pistol num# 5 skill so they have to take my damage whether they like it or not

Most Mesmers will run two stun-breaks, even in a phantasm build (in PvP modes), so I’d hardly consider this a solution. I run both Blink and Decoy when I play phantasm.

I said in WvW (Im a Roamer) did not mention PvP

I was referring to WvW; “PvP game modes” Plural.

Regardless, unless you’re running an interrupt build, using CC to interrupt phantasm summons is hardly reliable against a competent Mesmer. When I play phantasm, personally, I’ll open with a Decoy or Mass Invis to allow me to summon my phantasms from stealth. Then it’s GG because Mesmers lack cleave/AoE, and all I have to do at that point is evade the predictable shatter burst whilst my phantasms finish the Mesmer off.

It can work, if you get lucky, but it’s not a reliable counter.

That when I tend to use me Signet, when I see a Mass Inv coming up
And no…it didn’t have to be plural…..

Sandrox.9524:

Pyroathiest.4168:

Xaurniven.2065:

Pyroathiest.4168:

Jackums.3496:

Xaurniven.2065:

Jackums.3496:

If the Mesmer is competent and experienced with shatter themselves, they won’t lose to a shatter spec whilst running phantasm. The burst is too predictable and shatter lacks the sustain of phantasm builds. Plus, as a Mesmer you don’t have easy access to AoE or effective cleave to destroy the opposing Mesmer’s phantasms.

You’ll lose more often than not.

I tend to have Signet of Domination ready + pistol num# 5 skill so they have to take my damage whether they like it or not

Most Mesmers will run two stun-breaks, even in a phantasm build (in PvP modes), so I’d hardly consider this a solution. I run both Blink and Decoy when I play phantasm.

Not to mention iSwap as another breaker. What the signet and pistol allow you to do, though, is interrupt the casts and try to get burst in before they build up phantasms.

That’s what I was trying to point out ._. To stun e’m before they get a phantasm out and Burst e’m

Yeah, you can definitely try to do that. It’s easier said than done, unfortunately. There’s a lot of ways to protect casts, so it’s not always going to be possible to get interrupts. Ultimately in a fight against a phantasm mesmer, you really just need to pressure them hard. Phantasm builds do have a bit of a setup time before they reach full strength, and this is your chance to kill them. At about 20-25 seconds into a fight though, if they have been able to get set up, you’re dead almost no matter what.

You always can try to get off-range though

@Xaurniven mind you that not all the world is perfect with blue skies and green grass, the mesmer you face can do somthing else,you need to adjust.

Course I need to adjust! That’s the fun part
Just wanted some advice, never said I always lose to a Phantasm Mesmer, just needed some tips Ty vm
And btw my skies are a bit purple here IF you know what I mean….hehe

Sandrox.9524:

Mass invisible->blink(if you are far from target)->dodge twice->iLeap->blurred frenzy + diversion->dodge backward->iWave->iZerker->decoy->iLeap again->MW+blurred frenzy or alternative just spam 1111
(as how to fight phantasm mesmer) always remember that phantasm mesmer need target to get his phantasm up,so when you show up,it is crucial that you daze him.
after you burst him a little,he will get panicked a bitand will prolly use decoy or blink,hence the iWAVE for if it’s decoy,it will knock him down and would not let him spam phntasm untill his stealth over.

Wow Ty! This is a great tactic to use and will surely try this!

Pyroathiest.4168:

Jackums.3496:

Xaurniven.2065:

Jackums.3496:

If the Mesmer is competent and experienced with shatter themselves, they won’t lose to a shatter spec whilst running phantasm. The burst is too predictable and shatter lacks the sustain of phantasm builds. Plus, as a Mesmer you don’t have easy access to AoE or effective cleave to destroy the opposing Mesmer’s phantasms.

You’ll lose more often than not.

I tend to have Signet of Domination ready + pistol num# 5 skill so they have to take my damage whether they like it or not

Most Mesmers will run two stun-breaks, even in a phantasm build (in PvP modes), so I’d hardly consider this a solution. I run both Blink and Decoy when I play phantasm.

Not to mention iSwap as another breaker. What the signet and pistol allow you to do, though, is interrupt the casts and try to get burst in before they build up phantasms.

That’s what I was trying to point out ._. To stun e’m before they get a phantasm out and Burst e’m

Jackums.3496:

Xaurniven.2065:

Jackums.3496:

If the Mesmer is competent and experienced with shatter themselves, they won’t lose to a shatter spec whilst running phantasm. The burst is too predictable and shatter lacks the sustain of phantasm builds. Plus, as a Mesmer you don’t have easy access to AoE or effective cleave to destroy the opposing Mesmer’s phantasms.

You’ll lose more often than not.

I tend to have Signet of Domination ready + pistol num# 5 skill so they have to take my damage whether they like it or not

Most Mesmers will run two stun-breaks, even in a phantasm build (in PvP modes), so I’d hardly consider this a solution. I run both Blink and Decoy when I play phantasm.

I said in WvW (Im a Roamer) did not mention PvP

Jackums.3496:

If the Mesmer is competent and experienced with shatter themselves, they won’t lose to a shatter spec whilst running phantasm. The burst is too predictable and shatter lacks the sustain of phantasm builds. Plus, as a Mesmer you don’t have easy access to AoE or effective cleave to destroy the opposing Mesmer’s phantasms.

You’ll lose more often than not.

I tend to have Signet of Domination ready + pistol num# 5 skill so they have to take my damage whether they like it or not

I totally agree and this. Some people just don’t know that Mesmer’s have a lot of builds that can suit any situations at any time (well if you can play it good and know what your doing) unlike guardians and Warriors who think that we have 2 to 3 builds that are appropriate and anything else won’t work (talking about world of versus world here).
And it all depends on your play style and what you like, your Build will define you and no one can tell you otherwise.
A lot of people should read this post, thank you so much for posting this

Swish.2463:

Null Field and iDisenchanter are a bit more popular on the Condition/Boon removal side of things. They arent as picky about working correctly and can really wreck havoc on multiple targets all at the same time.

I believe AT simply removes the Last (3) Boons applied and grants you their remaining durations. I cant be sure on that tho, there may be a specific order grabbed..

AT going on CD without doing anything is fairly common if you’re very new to the skill. It will not be affected by Blind to my knowledge, or Aegis (Unblockable) but it only functions in a “cone” that is directly in front of you to about 45’ maybe 60’ degrees to either side. This means if you run by your target (them being at your side or ending up behind you) when the skill finishes casting, you get no boons, they get no conditions and you get a kitten CD.

If the target falls out of the 900 range before the animation is finished, the same thing can happen as well.

I’ve found AT does its best work with the Increased range (chaos line trait) applied to it. If you can get out of battle or out of reach long enough to pop the skill it’s a nice feeling.

AT is also Dodge-able, as a final thought, so not a great option against high evade classes (ranger/thief).

Edit: Apparently “Forty Five” + s (for seconds) is frowned upon by the almighty filter..

You need Master of Manipulations to increase range. It’s in Dueling not Chaos, think is 1 I believe.

So as a Roamer in WvW I eventually meet Mesmers who are using a phantasm build.
Some are meh I can take em do to the lack of their reaction or..just cause I’m a tat better ^^.
I run a glass cannon Shatter Build 10 30 0 0 30 with Rune of the Traveler.
Anyway so my tactic would be to surprise them with a decoy and put their phantasm on my clone (I hope) and depends either fake shatter to let them use their CC Breaks or Distortion or to rlly blast em.
-If they ain’t dead-
Now this is the part where it gets difficult. I have CD on a lot of skills and I can’t keep my stealth up for long so they gonna plop their Phantasms on me and do some major damage. Now don’t go saying “oh you can allways dodge” now see we all got limited amount of dodges we can do here.
So what should I do? Pressure them with my Phantasms? Pressure them with me jumping all over a and hitting auto attack (after blast of course)?
I mean I would rlly like for you to all post out strategies on what you would do in this situation.

Wow…..lol +1 indeed to this

mango.9267:

selan.8354:

pretty much what pyro said. if u were truly a mesmer u would know that phantasms are our only way to deal dmg that can compete with any other class.and suddenly everyone uses phantasms?!? erm phantasms are part of any build. any power mes build has to rely on phantasms cause thats where our dmg comes from.
sorry but its very very obvious u dont play mesmer. u main another profession that cant deal with mesmers thats why u come here to whine.
there really isnt much left for mesmers to spec into. if u nerf our main dmg dealers then u would have to buff our other weapon skills. if u nerf pu or rework it, u would have to give mes a buff to be able to survive better.
honestly, very bad acting like u were a real mesmer that mains this class. golden raspery for u!

Man, this post is much more whiny than OP’s post. Calm down and breathe. For what it’s worth, he did say he’d like to see other aspects buffed to compensate.

I kinda agree with OP. That said, if Anet nerfed phantasms, mesmers would be much less viable in PvE.

From a PvP standpoint, I do think phantasms are a bit strong. They do heavy damage while letting the mesmer kite around, promoting passive gameplay. I think buffing weapon damage and buffing shatters could be a nice way to promote active gameplay without destroying the class.

Nah he was very calm saying this, idk what are u talking about.
And yeah lol you don’t play Mesmer it seems to me. So how about you run along to your friends and whine with them ^.^

Seems like you’ve just been….Mind Wrecked if you know what I mean ;) …oh wait you don’t play Mesmer sowwy :(

Would this work as a roaming build in WvW?

jweez.7214:

The mask in gw2 is certainly a staple of the mesmer profession. I have been wondering what’s the deal with them lately. Are they supposed to represent something? Is there any lore attached to it? Did Mesmers wear masks in gw1? Why don’t any noteworthy mesmer npcs wear masks in the game?

I really like the concept and think its original but I keep getting the feeling that as like a lot of things in gw2 that it has no real meaning.

I think anet does a poor job of putting class lore into the game, hopefully I’m wrong and just have missed it and one of you bright souls can enlighten me.

Ps. I know there is a bit of lore about it at character creation but it only really states that Mesmers wear masks.

In AC Part 3, there are Ascalonian Mesmers who wear masks btw ._.

Wow that was really interesting to read! It really suits say a PU build or hell if you have a lot of stealth where you control the battle in stealth mode and the enemy doesn’t know where you are or your plan. (In my view lol)

It’s also fun to read and learn more about the Lore if your class, really makes you proud to play Mesmer and gives us pride when we were a mask.

Mesmer should maybe follow the role of rlly Bunkering down, like rrrlllly bunkering.
I mean think about it, Mesmer is an all around class, from Healing constantly to Bursting like a boss.
Maybe make it so that Mesmers would be able to be with the Mele Train in a ZvZ just for the fun of it ^^