Guild Wars 2

Only a few hours in but this looks like it has the potential to be a really fun match.

I’m pleased to see Millers here. During the period a couple of months back, when FSP spent many weeks around t6/t7, Millers were my favourite opponent (even though we only got to fight them once I think) because they were always up for a good open field-battle and we were very evenly matched. I think we only won back then due to better night coverage.

Surprised to see Gandara in this tier but, if the fights with them are anything like the ones we’ve just had at north-east bay gate in FSP bl (sensible numbers of ppl on each side, no blobs, no lag…just really fun fights), then I’m glad they’ve joined us. Just hope their forum warriors don’t sour things like they did during our recent brief visit to t4.

leadustin.1572:

Whats your problem? i could say the same about FSP.

For me, the problem is that fighting the abadablob is so kitten boring. I truly cannot understand how any of you can be satisfied just smacking #1 repeatedly until you, or someone else, dies. What the kitten is the point? I’d rather smack my head repeatedly against a wall.
I realise all servers blob in EB so I began only playing in FSP or FR bl maps to avoid the abadablob…until it started appearing there.
Next, I tried only playing ‘off-peak’ hours but the abadablob followed.
I’ve now moved on to ‘barely logging in at all until you or us change tier’ because I want fights where, win or lose, I know that my opponents and I had both the opportunity and skill to use more than a single button.

Agree completely with op.

I bought into wvw on the promise of ‘large scale PvP’ and all I see nowadays is ‘uber-blob PvD’.

After the patch there is only 1 class I want to be…an arrow cart

Well grats to Whiteside Ridge and RoS for suddenly being in EU t5…but what happened to Fort Ranik and Abaddon’s Mouth, who were in our match immediately prior to the patch?

Maybe people are familiar with the phrase that doing something boring is “like watching paint dry”. Now anet introduce a system whereby you can stare at walls for hours that don’t even offer the relative excitement of the aforementioned drying paint…

Fighting = fun
Staring at walls = logout

This update is needless and, to be blunt, kitten if you actually want to have fun playing wvw.

Not many posts from EU servers yet so here are my favourites from FSP:

Balutrik [MA]
Chelios [DIE]
Grunblatt [RtR]
Proximus Derilius [DIE]
Qla [Kale]
Tia Nort [TNN]

Essentially all for the same reason, they are all extremely good at what they do (each having a very different way of working) but they all make wvw a kitten good time

While I can understand the point of view that it is a valid, and even preferred, tactic to block your opposition, it doesn’t stop me from feeling that it shows a lack of sportsmanship.
In the past, when some on FSP have used this ‘tactic’ (I seem to recall incidents against GH and Underworld), I changed maps because I find spawn camping to be pretty loathsome. Let’s be honest, if you’re in a position so strong that you can attack or capture an opponent’s keep, you should be able to defend yourselves without resorting to this kind of nonsense.

Perhaps I’m too English, perhaps I’m just unusual, but I would rather lose with honour than win in shame. Sadly, you don’t have to read through too many of the threads here to wonder if this generation of gamers sees ‘honour’ as an outdated concept

Fixeon.5076:

OK, I have an idea for you all. Instead of the way the current PPT system works try this.

Right now everything has a fixed value (other than killing yaks). What if they were not. What if they ramped up over time. But also, you add in a bonus for capturing something which also ramps up over time.

So what this would mean is lets just say that Green just took their garrison. Well that garrison is now only worth +2ppt, and after the next tick it will be worth +4ppt. And then after a bunch of ticks it caps out at its current +25PPT. But what is also happening is there is a second mechanic ticking. This would be the value that this keep would be worth if another team was to take it from green. So lets just say that its worth +10 if you take it before the next tick. And then maybe +15 after that. Finally capping out at like +200 or +300 something like that.

So what would happen is that the longer an enemy would have a tower the more rewarding it would be for them to hold it and for someone else to try and take it from them. I think this would encourage people to go after high value targets while trying to hold onto their own. As a +2 tick and +10 for taking a keep would not be worth the time or effort that would go into trying to siege something.

Really, really like this idea in principle.

Making the value of the objectives dynamic, in this way, might solve the problem of mid-week match sterility (take enough high value objectives on Thurs/Fri and you could catch-up with the servers ahead of you).
Also, it would add more of a reason to defend, thus halting the wxp/karma train issue that was raised after the Mar-26 patch.

2 birds, 1 stone = +1 Fixeon

@ Darkonia

Very disappointed to hear about this. As has been said in other posts, the vast majority of us on FSP abhor the use of any bugs, hacks and exploits.

Did the person have a guild tag? If you can remember it and let us know, we can investigate further and try to root out whoever is responsible for this. Or if you see it happen again during the match, w/ one of us and we can try and find out their user id so we can report them too.

This is an amazingly close, fun match and I don’t want to see it spoilt!

Just wanted to say great job to all at FSP bay tonight.

We managed a successful defence against a long, sustained attack from a very large FR force, while simultaneously defending woodhaven and dawns from smaller FR strike teams. Special mention has to go to Commanders Tia Nort (TNN) and Lad Emixam (DW) for co-ordinating it all. Awesome stuff guys

The stat bonuses orbs gave were ridiculous (especially in situations where 1 server had 2+ of them).

The ease with which they could be hacked was ridiculous (and, in the situation described above, some people might have justified doing so on account of those ludicrous stat bonuses they had to fight against).

So then, I can only describe the idea of bringing them back in their original form as…ridiculous.

Dalliance.5719:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppc6jNJAySw

thanks for the past 2 days, we had an amazin time so far
Can’t wait for the reset!

I had the privilege of being on FR BL while DeX were there a couple of nights ago, some of the things they’re capable of are amazing! Glad to have them with us on FSP and I look forward to seeing (and, hopefully, learning) more in the coming weeks

Grats to AM for the win this week. Just 1 small criticism; I know zergs/blobs are the wvw meta and we all do it sometimes but do you ever do anything else…even if only for the sake of variety? I can’t remember seeing anyone from AM in a group smaller than about 40-50 which seems a bit strange :/

Not quite sure what is happening on FSP right now, all I ever see in m/ and t/ chat is arguments…between and/or including individuals, commanders and even whole guilds.
In the absence of many organised wvw guilds, our strength has always been in our unity and good discipline, both of which appear to have vanished and it seems to be costing us dearly. I could come up with 1000 possible theories to explain it but, the truth is, I have no idea what the real cause is.
So, all I will say is this; if you have a problem (whether it’s with an individual, a commander or a guild) either take it to w/ chat or change the map you’re on to find one you are happy to play on. If you can’t or won’t support the server, then use the free transfer currently available.

Apart from that, very impressed with both FR and AM so far and looking forward to a fun week ahead.

Sequoia Mint.4803:

Are we still accussing each other of blobbing? Who blobbed first? and whos blob is bigger than the other big blob? Seriously!?!? Its cluttering a perfectly fun week. SO just get used to the fact that theres always been blobbing and now you can actually see them. BLOB BLOB BLOB stop whining. Every server has blobbed blobbing blobs! I have had fun this week with good fights. And if your all so worried about blobs then go blob yourself right in your blob hole…….

BLOB!

So totally this^^

Surprisingly, given the number of times the word ‘blob’ appears, it’s the sanest post in this entire thread

Corran, you do make me laugh, it’s actually very easy to switch a guild tag on or off. idk which guild, if any, that guy belongs to but the absent tag as some kind of ‘evidence’ is as watertight as a sieve. Hmm, funny that you know him well enough to know when he is in his house or not though…

Anyway, seems clear AG and it’s ‘leet’ guilds were really very embarrassed by the prospect of losing to a pug server! Even if we finish 3rd, this week will always be a victory for FSP. We’ve been kicking your kittens all week, so the fact that we pushed you into 4am zerging (a perfectly valid tactic so I have no issue there but, in reality, we all know this is a last resort for servers who can’t win any other way ) and now exploit abuse…so delicious

Maybe lots of people are returning to check out the post-culling wvw; maybe wvw has always been like this but I was unaware of it because of the culling – either way the numbers of people (on all servers) and scale of the fights is astonishing.
The big problem, of course, is the unbearable lag that such large scale battles produces and, ultimately, kills any hope of having a proper, fun fight.

Sadly, even a dedicated ‘peaker like me, could be tempted by the idea of a free transfer to a lower tier server where, I assume, lag isn’t such a problem.

Is FSP full on all 4 maps or am I perhaps just suffering due to this new queue bug that came with the patch (I get the ‘party’ error message when trying to enter any map but don’t think I’ve seen all 4 maps simultaneously full in at least 4 or 5 months)?

cimon.5798:

FA same thing i cant even get back into wvw says theres a network error and that i should check my internet connection

Same for me on FSP (EU). It worked for about 5 minutes and now this^^

Ironvos.9014:

Problem with Xoac joining is that we might end up in T3 and be massively outzerged during the day and would have to rely on night/morning capping too much to stay in the race

This^^

There always seems to be a subtext that the ‘blob’ or ‘zerg’ is a bad thing. By anet’s design, it’s the best way to get anything done in wvw so imho (and I might be in the minority by admitting it) there’s nothing wrong with it at all, be it 30, 70 or 1000 people in size.

I can appreciate the point of view that it requires less individual skill to play that way but, again, I would argue this is a good thing since it makes the game accessible to more people.

For me personally, becoming a highly skilled player couldn’t matter less (I don’t suffer a large ego and willingly admit I am average at best). As long as I’m doing the best job I can for my team (whether in the blob or not), then I’m happy.

Immolator.5640:

60-70 blobs all the time

erm…I wish we did but we rarely have 60-70 ppl in one map at the same time, never mind all in 1 zerg

Immolator.5640:

soooo annoying are you guys, you go down if you get sneezed at

If this is the best trolling you can manage, I suggest you go read the t1 match thread to learn how to do it properly

Immolator.5640:

although we were rolling your zergs with 26 [WvW] plus 5 or so pugs

…and I once wiped a vizunah zerg of 900 ppl armed with nothing more than a piece of cheese!

immolator, the ‘smug salesman’ style of your posts is mildly amusing but, if you don’t have anything sensible to say, stfu and go back to uw please.

@ Uttar

As Maloki says, some ppl just like to whine as if they have no accountability – if something doesn’t go right for a team, it’s the whole team’s responsibility and not down to 1 person!

Having clocked up nearly 2k hours in gw2 (mostly WvW), I’ve seen a lot of commanders and, imho, both you and Zim (2 of our newest) have the makings of being great for the job :-)

I want to preface this by saying that I believe 99.9% of players, on all 3 servers, are honest and the behaviour of 1 or 2 people is in no way representative of a whole server.

So, about an hour ago, FSP had a visitor to the 3rd floor of SM who was attempting to destroy some of our trebs. Since there were no walls or gates down, we can only assume they used some nefarious means of getting up there.

I’m not posting this to make silly accusations, I just wanted to ask that if anyone on UW thinks they might know who this person is (guardian in what I think was primeval armour set), could you ask them not to pull these kind of stunts.
They might think they are helping but all they are doing is adding fuel to an already tense atmosphere between our servers and I, like everyone else, just want to be able to play a fun, honest and good natured game without any of the aggravation that saw the last thread closed. Thx.

Was a pretty amazing reset for us on FSP, as strong as I’ve seen for quite some time. Commander Balutrik was great, as ever, leading the troops in EB; while [DIE] kept constant pressure on GH and FR camps/towers and [Kale] and [City] co-ordinated a very effective defence of our home territories.
As if this weren’t enough, [AoA] also came to EB (after already doing some great things in the bl maps), and led the push which saw us take GH keep!
In light of certain comments I made last week, I think we struck the right balance between our organised guilds and pugs last night, with each doing the things they are best at and doing them really well.
Great job all, I went to sleep a proud shiverpeaker :-)

An annoying reset in EB on FSP. The utter arrogance shown by AoA and it’s commanders was disgraceful. It’s long been known that FSP is predominantly a pug server but we all work hard together and take our successes and failures together. AoA’s attempt to preclude these same pugs (and the subsequent abuse I received from AoA members when I pointed out it might be useful for their commander to communicate with us in /m chat) brings shame to themselves and this, otherwise, great server.

There are many of us ‘randoms’ who spend many hours every day, and sometimes long into the night, fighting for this server (in my case, often around 10 hours). When compared with AoA’s paltry 3 evenings per week, I think this entitles us to be shown a little more respect.

I can only hope that AoA desists it’s dilettante attempts at being some kind of uber-guild (don’t forget, FSP has fought guilds like RG and WL in the past and AoA doesn’t even come close). Or maybe they would prefer that the people actually responsible for getting FSP back to where it is now stop playing so they can show us how they get on covering all 4 maps on their own 24 hours a day..?

AoA != FSP

Steelo.4597:

tonight we will have a special suprise for you AM and FSP (nothing to do with golems), lets see if you find out what it is, write it here when you notice something special and weird

Are we allowed to guess? Given the recent collapse of Piken, maybe the xaoc members who went there a couple of weeks ago are coming back..?
Wouldn’t be a bad thing imo, wvw is a lot more fun when player numbers are even (as long as we’re all there at the same time ofc – us PvD during our primetime and then xaoc PvD during their’s would only change the score and not increase the fun I crave). Anyway, I look forward to seeing what GH has in store for us :-)

On another topic, I actually really enjoyed (if that’s the right word, lol) AM’s swoop on sm last night, I thought it showed real balls…and the subsequent attack on our keep was a real ‘shot in the arm’ I think we needed. Props to all at AM :-)

My apologies that this is a little off-topic but it seems the best place to reach the intended audience.

@ FSP commanders

There has been more than 1 occasion in recent days I have seen discussions among commanders, in /m and /t chat, about FSP players (not about specific ppl, just our players in general) that have taken a derogatory tone.
I’d like to point out that while a zerg with no commander is nothing, a commander with no zerg amounts to even less. 100g buys you a nice shiny blue triangle but it does not buy you respect or a god-given right to have people worshipping at your feet.
You would do well to remember we’re all just playing a game and no-one here is better or worse than anyone else regardless of whether or not they possess the ‘blue shiny’.
So pull your heads out of your kittens and just get on with playing the game please.

spiritus.7983:

I smell aliance

I smell paranoia…

I think op just won ‘most ridiculous thread ever’ in categories for both concept and execution…

To the FR thief I just had a 10 minute long 1v1 with at Godsword supply camp in FSP bl map (in case you read this), I just wanted to say awesome fight!
I don’t normally like 1v1 but, that was so much fun, I could get addicted to it…even though you did win in the end :-)
Formidable, merci

Same as https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Can-t-get-past-character-screen-since-patch and all above posts – was in wvw when patch started and now can’t get past character selection screen…

SFR (EU)
SFR borderlands

The defence for wvw hackers on a server normally goes “it’s 1 or 2 idiots that do not represent the play of the whole server”.
So, how does Dzagonur explain when a zerg of 30+ people attacking Sunnyvale in FSP borderlands, from many different (and some widely known) guilds, includes several players who magically found a way in the lord’s room already…no walls down, no gate down?
Many of Dzagonur’s wvw players are extremely good and very skilled but, after the many incidents like the one described above, I’m starting to wonder if they are the minority; actually outnumbered by the number of cheats also on this server.
I will refer anyone who wants proof to anet – reports have been submitted to them. Of course, they will do nothing, so this post is just my way of making any future opponents of Dzagonur aware that they will be against a team of Olympic standard high-jumpers!

So, despite all of the reports submitted by Gunnars Hold last week, the Dzagonur luftwaffe are back…gg anet