Looking through the threads I only think that all these serious wvw commanders cannot even adapt to some challenging terrain.
So ArenaNet needs to plan some escalators and more waypoints for these posers. This “hardcore” WvW group is just a sack of potatoes. Instead of crushing their enemies with some intelligent terrain matching tactics they are QQing on the forums like babies about their inability and mindnumbing egos.
At least to some extend anyway. I don’t mean to say that all changes make for a good match up, but the map is a constant that can easily be learned. Just not many have been trying, and just gave up on it. Even the gimmicks have cooldowns that can be played around to some extent.
Removal of gimmicks is a suggestion for the plebs. Rebalancing them so they can be countered easier is much better. Or better creating counters for them so you can negate certain effects.
If there’s so many people in T1 that are good that are standing down, they sure are a huge disappointment anyway. One trick ponies, know one map and gave up when the map was too challenging. What a joke.
Maybe it’s time to make WvW more appealing to more people by increasing rewards, because the current ones are kitten ing it up, thinking theyre special.
Funny, b4 we stood down our guild was one of the very few willing to step foot on DBL, and one of the few that know it very well.. That isn’t the issue. Knowing it and liking it are two different things. If it isn’t fun people are not going to keep doing it, and it just isn’t fun. Adding “escalators” will not solve the problems as the issue is the map needs to be designed from the ground up for nonstop strategic, challenging, fun pvp action the entire time you are on it, and this one was designed the opposite of that.
IT does no good to run on DBL when you cannot even get people to leave EBG to respond to calls, and having a server expect your guild to play 24/7 to babysit everything or no one will defend when you leave because it isn’t worth defending is not any way to play a RvR game mode.
By bringing in PvE gold farmers, you are replacing players who spend $ to receive nonstop, strategic, challenging, fun PvP with players who earn all there loot in game and have no need to inject cash into the game every month to pay the bills with.
I couldn’t agree more. I CAN play on the new map. But playing on it is as much fun as reading the whole telephonebook of my city from A to Z. I CAN do it. But it isnt fun, so why should i do it? After all GW 2 is still just a game, and the intention of a game is having fun. Ofcourse, there is also the companys intention of earning money. And it is just simple. I get fun from a game, the company gets money from me. So… No fun for me, no money for Anet. Thats at least MY point, and i’m rly surprised when i’m the only one thinking that way.,
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These are their forums, if they suck it is because they made them suck, since they have control over the format they choose to use. Telling their players that they cannot even make forums they consider usable so they have to use someone else’s product instead is not a good sign…
These are their forums, they created and have control over the format and quality of where their players are, if they think it better to use products other than their own instead ,should the players not as well and take their business elsewhere?
ANET isn’t known for making “awesome forums”, they’re known for making awesome GAMES…
Your statement is about as asinine as expecting a company that makes good televisions to also make good roller skates >.<
I am almost falling out of my chair at how you’re CLEARLY nit-picking on ANET here just because YOU are dissatisfied. Almost falling out of my chair laughing at how much you’re seen QQing around here >.> Clue, get over yourself – ANET has made an awesome game here! They’re also doing a good job at it’s maintenance – whether you personally like where it’s going or not…
They HAVE been known for making good games. I can only speak for myself (and maybe for all the ppl that left the game for the same reasons), but with HoT i just can’t call GW2 honestly an “awsome game” any longer.
ANET ppl only using reddit is like the staff from McDonals eating at the next Burgerking, and when they are asked why, they just answer “We would love to eat in our own restaurant, but all the furniture is broken and only the drive-in is opend. But we are sure for our customers the drive in fits. If they want to sit and having their meal, i can really recomand this restaurant. The seats are verry comfortable…”
The official forums are a PART of the game. Sometimes ppl have a look at those forum before they even try the game. Those forums should be like a buisnes card… And no company would hand out cards with a wrong phonenumber, with fisures and coffee and ketchup marks on it.
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“We hope you enjoy the new gliderskins”
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I have spend a lot of money on that game. I bought a lot or armorsets, backpieces and dresses. I bought nearly every mini from the store. A lot of WxP boosters. I probably spend way more money on that game than i would have spend on as subscriptionbased game. But they decided to spend theyr money on that silly esport stuff i’m not intrested in, not on making the part of the game i love(d)better. So i just stoped givin them my money. I gave them my money and they completly failed to deliver me stuff i like. So i feel cheated.
So there is only one thing left i would spend money on: Getting the Alpine maps back! And that i would is a sign of desperation. It would send the completly wrong message to Anet.
Before HoT i would have bought a lot of stuff for WvW, but now they have to fix that mess before i spend a single cent on that game again.
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Yes please! Still don’t like the new map.
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The sadest thing about all that is that they probably don’t even get why everyone is so upset, after they released the good news about the changes and the big overhgaul.
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If you keep playing while complaining on the forums Anet wont care since you are active players and thats what they care about.
Nope. I think they care more about gemsales. Sure, they care a bit about metrics and log in numbers, but in the end it is the cash they want and need.
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i’d take oldschool wvw over sex with a thousand virgins
Me too, but then again I’m female so 1000 male virgins doesn’t sound like too much fun.
Hehe… I’m female too and i agree completly. Male virgins are just not fun. No idea why man prefer virgins. Probably because they have nothing to compare and can’t judge if he is good or not^^;
But uh… I think we are a bit OT now…
Since those changes are announced for the 26… I’m still not sure about the rally and rez changes. I think i don’t like them. I’t is another buff for defenders and i think the balance has already changed enough in favour of the defenders.
A weird thought for PPK: When someone gets feared or pushed of a cliff, will this give a point too?
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It’s just disgusting.
By the time they finish the overhaul there will be no players left, they will jump to another game. After 2 years i don’t see myself playing the this kind of WvW for 3 months more. Something will appear.
Yeah. Even if the overhaul is GREAT (and i doubt that), later 2016 will be to late. If they rly had something great for us they would present it at least to some whiteknight streamers. I rly doubt that they have more than the changes from the holliday preview.
I expect “later 2016” will turn out as end of 2016
I’m so tired of chasing the carrot.
I log in to Gw2, do my dailys and every day passing by i become more and more reluctand to do evenb this little thing.
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Focus on the big picture peeps… You miss the points entirely.
And if y’all want to really go into it, gw2 is play for free and doubled their monthly concurrent user base back in October… That had 3,100,000 individual player log ins then… Your wvw is stil dead, though, right? That’s the power of no monthly fee in action here right? I certainly don’t see the no monthly fee doing anything to save our precious wvw right?
And y’all think the creators of daoc, who are now creating an entire new pvp game, won’t be popular? Yeah… And they can change payment models too, but the point is that GW2 has gotten a wake up call from all this…
It is my last hope that they rly wake up and not just press the snooze button like they are used to.
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No.
Actually, do they even read the forums?
No.
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can we also have gliding in wvw? it would make that atrocious desert borderland mildly tolerable.
Soon as it establishes a tactical advantage it’s a sure fire way to get everyone who plays WvW to buy the expansion too.
Sry but… Wake up. We don’t even get autoloot. As Anet already statet: Masterys are not for WvW…
But i guess they will find a way to give it to PvP…
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I’m absolutly sure the “population issues” will be solved till end of 2016 naturaly. Just give it a few more months and the whole population that is left will fit into one EBG instance…
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As soon as you have maxed out the elites it gets even worse. It feels like i get the proofes way faster than the badges. On my 2nd acc i play only 2 toons and both have full elites. After the first stack of proofes i stoped to open the chestst. Takes less space. It feels a bit like the good old times when the badges have been inventory items…
Would be nice if you could trade the proofes you don’t need for badges. Or… Flowerseeds or Firework… just something that is at least a bit shiny or even a BIT usefull…
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This is not a bug… It’s a stupid design decision.
They decided that, like on EB, only the home keeps should be accessible by WP.
The WPs were in the spawn towers which was also a stupid design decision…
Honestly, I don’t know who is in charge of WvW decisions, or what direction they are attempting to force us into going, but no one likes them but QQ all you like, Anet doesn’t give a flying Kitten about it’s players as long as the Gems keep getting sold.
Exactly. Is’t not a bug, i’ts a feature…
I would love to see some numbers about gemsales. At least I stoped spending money on GW2 after HoT
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Worst type of gaming in NA. You need 50 ppl of your own and 50 ppl to fight. That alone makes things hard to concatenate playing.
Think of it this way the old mmorpg or rvr players use to have a lot of free time when they where kids but most of though players are older and have a great deal less amount of free time from being you know an adult. The new gamer are more cellphone base and that comes with a lot of fast small games and that IS the major gaming forces behind things now.
Its all a game of numbers and you simply cant make ppl play for hrs on end any more for content.
What a bullkitten. You don’t need 50 players on each side. It doesn’t matter if you have 10 players or 20 or 50 on each side, as long as you are able to get equal fights the fighting is fun. The problems start, when one side has significant more or less players than the others and one side just steamrolles everything and everyone.
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Still no red post after 13 pages of posts?
It’s nice to see anet showing the same commitment to WvW as they did before HoT release, even though they said they would prioritise WvW are HoT release.
2 posts from gaile on the frirst page. 16 days ago we had 3 posts from zachary… somewhere aroung page 7 i think.
But yeah… 5 red posts in13 pages is sad.
And still no answer to the “when” and still no Bugfixes for the walls and waypoints and all the kittening broken stuff in WvW.
And again it feels like talking to a closed door, hoping that someone hears us. While the devs already sneaked out through the backdoor long ago.
WvW is running out of time. More and more ppl just loose faith and give up. Everyday you guys (yes, i mean YOU Anet devs!) stay quiet, everyday without a bugfix you loose ppl and make the remaining ppl more angry and frustratet. When i look at the world selection screen i’m scared. So many medium servers, so few verry high. It won’t take long till even T1 servers drop to medium…
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“A few weeks back, it was very late at night, I got incredibly bored and decided to browse some shady websites. I found a hack. After posting on the thread that I might be interested in trying this software”
I remember that kind of boredom from my first MMO.
That point, when the game itself has nothing more to offer for you, when everything feels old and stale.
Back in my first MMO me and my ingame husband felt the same boredom. At that time a bad bug apeared in the game that alowed ppl to repeat a quest over and over again, that was meant to be done only once. He used that exploit, i did not. He got baned. At that point i was also already surfing on those “shady websides”, beeing tempted to try some things. When he got banned i realised for myself: When you reach that point in a game, where you are THAT bored… the game has already died for you and it is time to move on
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And another patchday without ANY bugfix for WvW mentioned…
sight I should just give up and let it rest in peace
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ArenaNet could put Alpine Borderlands now because we are in the winter and its lore friendly .
(I keep dreaming :P)
Yes… I was hoping they give them back for the wintersday event…
Wouldnt surprise me the slightest if the population is based solely on EB activity. I mean think about it. Servers should have dropped alot in population if the borders was a major part of the activity calculation. I mean they are 75% of WvW and get like 5% of the activity.
I doubt, that it is only based on EBG, i’d rather believe that everyone who joins a WvW map counts. So if your server just has a lot of PvE player that use the home BL for the crafting you are screwed… (just speculations, but would fit into typical Anet logic for me)
A lot of servers have droped from full to verry high or high.
I also think that they adjust the system sometimes. Remember that one week where all servers down to mid silver went to full at the same time? That was never ever a real calculation. At this point not a single server had the population it had before HoT when most of them have been open.
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I honestly don’t blame ANET this time. How long did everyone scream they wanted new maps??? So they finally give in, give new maps, now everyone is hollering we want the old back.
I never screamed for new maps. When they designed Eotm i realised that asking anet for something new for WvW is a BAD idea… So please use the word “everyone” carefully.
But i know ppl wanted new maps. 2 Years ago. And maybe that is a part of the problem. I would guess that the ppl who WANTED something new have quit the game long long before HoT. And most of the remaining ppl have been fine with what we had. Now that they they gave us something new the ppl who wanted it are no longer here and what we got scares away the remained players.
Or maybe we just got the worst “new things” we could get.
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“What if anet replace EB with eotm map?”
Well… They would solve the queue problem…
And CU and crowfall would get more preorders…
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Did you read the justification for their changes to cat supply? They’re obviously sticking with the Desert BL.
Sadly… Watching anet “improving” WvW feels a bit like watching a bad horrofilm. You know someone will suggest something verry stupid. Then someone DOES suggest something stupid and then they DO the stupid thing. And everyone watching it KNOWS how stupid it is… Just not the ppl doing it…
For the suggestions: I rly like most the ideas, The “scoutmastery” sounds awsome to me!
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On my 2nd acc. i have a way bigger problem with those badges. I have unlocked all elite specs that i wanted. My main has now already over a whole stack of proofes of heroics in the bank, but i just don’t get enough badges to trade them into siege. I even stoped to open the chests, just because one stack chests takes way less space in my bank that all the badges inside. And it realy kittenes me of, to have a ton of useless proofes and nothing to spend them on. Please anet, lower the ammount of badges that is needed for siege with Proofes of heroic!
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It is not needed and the main reason most ppl don’t like the map
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And if you start fixing things: Please fix the guards atacking ANY kind of PVE stuff that keeps towers and especially the green keep contested…
On this matter, also have a look at the tengu archer that spawns inner garrison to contest it.
Oh yes, please!
I was hoping for a late christmas miracle and a patch today… Probably my bad to hope they would do anything around the christmas days, but… Hope dies last. R.I.P.
It is sad, that it takes one week to fix the bug with the proof of heroic vendor that didn’t hurt anyone, but those rly harmfull bugs don’t get a fix for weeks or even months.
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And if you start fixing things: Please fix the guards atacking ANY kind of PVE stuff that keeps towers and especially the green keep contested…
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The best part is spending half an hour using a cata on these walls in the hope they break and finding they won’t.
And then find out that there isnt really a wall there, you could have walked through half an hour ago?
More like seeing it going down and when the wall hits 0% it becomes untargetable.
Also nice was the invisible stairs we had on SMC. Wall was down, ppl could walk through but it was still possible to walk up the stairs and stand on the broken wall XD
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Mine just droped from an oakheart that got killed more acidently in a zergfight near Stonemist in EBG. That proofes that at least EBG belongst to Tyria… I think we shhould get XP for our Tyria Masterys too…
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There’s even a little joke in-game, about how humans are better funders of Wintersday, than the other races, if you’ve noticed?
Pretty sure Anet are making a satirical reference to the funding of the game, in general.
They probably felt they could afford that kind of generosity, when the game was brand new and they had just received $millions from people buying it.
But, then, as time went on, they (or their accountants) realised that the money from those initial purchases wouldn’t last forever.
I thought the same, but way more cynical. I just thought “So that is Anet’s way to tell us that we need to spend more money on the gemstore if we want a proper wintersday…” And it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
The first Helloween with the journy to get the two books was great. Also the first Wintersday, collecting the stuff to craft the minis…. With Tixx visiting each city and everyone was excited. The first events have been the best.
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Before people wanted much bigger map so players can’t run back in fight after death.
Who wanted that? Not me nor anyone i know wanted that.
It was the purpose of the map to break the zergs. THIS purpose is fullfilled. I havn’t seen ANY zerg in the DBL since HoT…
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Well, all it does it just make me bitter and not want to spend money so their little commerce team or whatever will have to figure out a better way for people like me. Something that makes the game feel less rude and more fun.
So much THIS!
With and since HoT they made so many changes for the worst… I usually bought a gemcard each month. But i dislike the direction this game is going so much and i’m so disapointed, that i don’t want to spend a single cent more on it and regret that i gave them already so much money!
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With yaks being required for upgrades, both sides get a definite say in whether upgrades happen. One side says no by stealing the camps and sniping yaks, the other side says yes by flipping them back and escorting if need be. That’s not just a button to push… that’s something to fight over. Isn’t that what we want?
Just that there are servers that have gaps for hours with noone playing. That concept is fine for primetime, but not for offtimes in lower populated servers. And sadly these days everythin below T2 is “lower populated”
The old system was fine. Just remove the costs. I also liked the tactical decisions between rushing for a paper waypoint or going for walls and gateupgrades. In general i REALLY LIKED the tactical value of the old waypointsystem.
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I find WXP (and hence Proof gain) much greater on EotM fight maps than the Ktrain ones
I completly agree with that. I prefer the fightmaps too.
But we are WvW players. It seems like PvE player LOVE running-in-circles-content. Champtrains, helloween maze, chesttrain in silverwaste, karmatrain in eotm. This is all stuff that gives the best rewards for just stupid running in circles and it atrackts a lot of ppl. While the most WvW players i know join a karmatrain before reset, take a few things and are bored before the first round is done, many PvE players seem to enjoy the “trains”
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What’s really bizarre is that this one achievement makes the rest of the collection entirely pointless. If the goal is, as many apologists so far have claimed, to make the shoulders prestigious by way of rarity, then this one achievement alone is suffificent. Of course the prestige claim is obviously false, because no skill is required to achieve Festive Imbiber, only gold.
If the goal is to redistribute gold, then the first four achievements are sufficient in that respect, combined with an Imbiber achievement of 1000 would be pretty much overkill.
If the goal is metrics, then it still doesn’t really make sense. The grind will burn people out, the scrooginess will put some people off and the rest would have carried on playing anyway, so again 10,000 is overkill. Added to the fact that many have just bought the achievement and therfor have no need to keep logging in, and it still makes no sense.
It’s a baffling, cruel and exclusionary achievement that doesn’t really accomplish anything apart from brining out the cynic in everyone and spread ill-feelings throughout the community. I honestly can’t understand why Anet would do this.
Then I don’t understand half of the extremely poor decisions they’ve made of late.
Completed my shoulders today, through doing nothing else but the Jumping puzzle. It’s an insane ammount of work at first, but if you sell everything except for the drinks, you could in theory shorten the ammount of work through that.
It’s a lot of work though, many hours – even through being decent at the JP. (Since that is the most effecient way of doing it.)
then you’re very lucky to have those hours available, not everyone else does. I’ve played as much time this week as I’ve had available, got 9/10 collection items but still only reached 371 drinks. Between work and family, there is literally no way I can put that amount of time in to the game. Most people aren’t able to. What’s more, that you’ve put so many hours in doing the same thing, doesn’t make you any more skilled than the rest of us, you’ve just got more free time. Which of course in no way changes everything that’s wrong with this achievement. Infact you’ve just proven the point of the entire thread.
You have the entirety of the next year to work through the achievment, so time isn’t really a problem for anyone who really wants to get their hands on them. Not sure what you’re trying to prove, I merely stated the fact.
Even if I didn’t have the time to burn through to it, I’d still say that the 10k requirerment is fair and keeps it rare, as it imo., should be.
Yeah. You are absolutly right. You can gather the gifts from the tree in the homeinstance. Takes only ~27 years to get it that way… [/sarcasm off]
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So much badly broken stuff in WvW right now. It just makes me sad. I noticed that bug in SMC too. When i told ppl aboout it first they all thought i’m drunk or hallucinating.
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I had asked why and they said for WvW experience…. but you use the WvW rank points to uprade things to help you in WvW —- but that is pointless if all people want to do is run from fights.
Proofs of heroic to unlock pve hero points…
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Looks like some devs LOVE jumping puzzles and hate ppl who don’t like them
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Unless the original borderland comes back, WvWvW will remain to be half-dead. And the more time goes with the new borderland forced upon the players, the old players might never make a come back. Thus this forcing of the new map is one of the key reasons which is killing the game mode. This is way too little, way too late. Period.
Points per Kills (PPK) might actually lead to less fights as players might safely hide inside their towers and keeps or lead to more zerging since it is safer to be part of a large group than solo roam. In fact this change is seriously detrimental towards solo roaming without stealth or teleports. Does Arenanet really want to kill solo roaming for anything else than thieves, mesmers, stealth trappers and stealth gyro engineers? This change will also favor larger group over smaller ones. If you have 5 players and enemy has 20, what are you supposed to do?
I am sad and angry of Arenanet addressing the many other serious issues now plaguing WvWvW:
- rewards still suck compared to any other game mode. I have countless of times suggested copying spvp reward tracks to WvWvW and make them so that normal 2 hours of play would lead to a completion of 1 reward track. Also make WvWvW rank chests give a guaranteed rare and increase the rate of ascended drops, which happen now extremely rarely, like once per half a year!
- experience points gained in WvWvW don’t count for anything! Let players pool their exp for HoT or Tyria masteries!
- revenant hammer #2 (CoR) still needs to be toned down, general profession/specialization balance is bad for WvWvW. You can do these changes without affecting other game modes, in other words make WvWvW specific changes, which don’t affect pve or spvp.
- tons of bugs introduced by HoT (players hitting through the gates, keeps and towers being contested by pve creatures)
- reset night on Saturday is lacking players, Friday was much better time for reset
- the new Desert BL is NOT fun at all, Alpine BL was way superior
Time is ticking. Next Spring WvWvW will die.
Thanks for those words. So no need for me to type all this again. Just +1
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Yes they mentioned that Alpine map would be revised and then it would come back… considering Desert map I also get worried of what is to come of Alpine map.
Maybe they will bring back the middle lake and Quaggans… I can just imagine what kind of weird events they plan with Quaggans.
Do you remember the slipery parts of the iced mountains in the 2nd part of the super adventure box? or the reactorfractal where the plates break under your feet? That would both fit perfectly into the cold theme of the alpine BL’s. I expect them to give us stuff like this…
And before some Dev reads this and thinks “Hm… nice idea…” please NO!! ^^;
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While i like the idea to encourage ppl to play more on the borderlands i doubt that this would work.
It would just increase the queue in eb.
You can’t fore ppl to to do things they dont like. In some points gamers are like pets or skrit, if you want them to do something they naturaly wouldn’t do, you have to bait and reward them, not threat them with punishment.
If you want ppl to play on the new maps (that most ppl don’t like) you have to give them special rewards that are better than the rewards in EBG (that most ppl like way better than the new maps).
My biggest issue with your idea is that it would force some ppl to do the “dirty job”, the playing in the unbeloved maps, so OTHERS can enjoy EBG. And in this issue i already see a big toxic bomb for the communitys. Some ppl will say “fine. today we go to a BL and tomorrow we go EBG and someone else goes BL” but there will be a ton of selfisch ppl that would still refuse to play thew new maps and stay in EBG.
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Maybe we can get up a crowdfunding campain to bribe them to give us back the old maps?
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Wrong forum.
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I can only hope they don’t. But i think they already have forgotten about us. I fear the worst and try to enjoy what is left of WvW as long as it lasts.
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Ehm… ANet said that all of the grind should be OPTIONAL, not that there would be no grind at all. Heck, look at legendaries- those are a hell of a grind! You do not NEED the shoulder skin- while I agree that they could lower the amount there is literally NO point in having a cool skin if everyone else in the game can get it. When you feel something is an acceptable place in regards to grind:reward, the odds are a lot of other people will too- which then makes you no longer a special snowflake (literally, because everyone else will have the snowflakes too and yours won’t be special xP).
So it is less cool when others have it too?
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If we stick to your logic, that every new cosmetic need to be gold-sink , and every event skins are gated behind 1000 gold, we’d never get anything. Period.
Stop using cosmetic as an excuse. This Wintersday day adds absolutely nothing other than this one new skin, and yet they don’t want to reward people with the new skin they make, but rather want sinking thousand of golds because it’d benefit their Gem sale. Can’t you still not see the trend of Anet’s current direction, and keep on blindly defending this?
You need to stop putting words in people’s mouths. I never said every item. There will be other skins that are not so grindy to get, but there needs to be SOME cosmetic items that are prestigious and difficult to get. You cannot expect to get everything easily.
And what other things do we get for this event?
A new dress → In the gemstore
A new gliderskin → In the gemstore
A new mini → In the gemstore
A new mini → rare in the gifts ~4gold right now
A new mini → that requires 3 of the rare minis ~12 gold right now
A new mini → that requires 3 of the minis made of 3 rare minis ~36 gold right now
4 old minis back → one obtainable for the meta, all obtainable via the gemstore
1 old mini back → obtainable verry rare from the gifts ~58 gold right now
1 old mini back → obtainable by combining 3 of the verry rare minis ~110 gold right now
A new shoulderskin →with every drink now worth ~10s just the worth of the 10k drinks is 1k gold. plus 2500 candy cane worth ~ 6s each, ~150 gold in total
For me it just feels like wintersday is only for rich ppl or for ppl with a lot of luck. I already opened about 1k gifts and didn’t get a single skrit or snowman mini…
There is no problem with things you can work towards. I rly liked the mawdry stuff. That was fun, that was not just a mindless grind.
Sarcasm is what’s left when all hope is gone
I can’t watch those vids. They don’t cheer me up, they rather depress me even more. Good old days, fun times, now gone for good
Sarcasm is what’s left when all hope is gone
I’m disapointed too. The new direction of the game seems to be to grind for everything. The mini recipes, the achievements with candy cane and alcohol… that all turns out way to grindy to be fun. If that is Anets imagination of a fun and entertaining game, GW2 is in a worse shape than ever.
I’m also disapointed that LA didn’t get ANY decorations. Last year the city was completly destroyed by scarlet, so it was reasonable to move the festivity to DR, but this year… It is just disapointing.
Also WvW is missing it’s decoration. You can now argue that the new borderlands are just not the right place for that kind of decoration and that this looked way better with the alpine settings, but it shows just once more that noone cares for WvW. I’m not sure if EBG had decorations, but i rly miss the candy cane shooting balistas, the gift throwing trebs and the gift dolys.
It is just decoration, it shouldn’t bother me that much, but it feels like they didn’t put any love or creativity into this event.
Sarcasm is what’s left when all hope is gone
I always loved the seasonal events. In the past 3 years i did nearly all of them and did all the achievements. And i didn’t care to much that it was every year nearly the same. This is the first year i have to say: screw it, not going to bother with this crap.
I love the wintersday. And i was waiting for this event. I thought: well… It is winterday. They can’t mess it up, right? And now you proved me: You CAN.
Rly, Anet. 2 new verry grindy achievements is your imagination of fun and enjoyable stuff?
Thanks for ruining now even wintersday for me.
Sarcasm is what’s left when all hope is gone
Maybe if Anet make more money, they can pay salaries, keep people from management happy, keep NCSoft happy, and keep stock holder happy so they bother to keep players happy?
Do BL skins make ppl happy? I can only speak for myself, but it needs more than some pretty skins to make me happy with GW2 (again).
With HoT they createt some reasons for ppl to be unhappy with the game. They won’t fix that with new skins we can buy for money. Right now they reach at least for me, the oposite.
Sarcasm is what’s left when all hope is gone
anet your releasing WAY TOO MANY black lion skins in too short of a time, nobody can keep up, nobody even wants to keep up anymore as evidenced by how prices on black lion skins have plummeted in the past year, i know it used to be your bread and butter but you over saturated the market with too many.
I agree with that. It feels like we get a new set of BL skins every 2 weeks now (together with a new outfit and at least one mini). That is just way to much in such a short time.
And i don’t know how others feel about that, but seeing that focus on the gemstore after the worst addon ib have ever seen in an mmo leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Sarcasm is what’s left when all hope is gone