Guild Wars 2

Dal.5872:

Not one person seems to have mentioned the likely extra load on the servers.

As I remember the best hard CC skills have no target limit, and will have the ability to remove a “stack” of stability. Is no-one else worried about the extra load on the servers having to calculate all this? WvW is almost unplayable in the 80v80v80 battles, with extra math having to be done on skills with no target limit surely this will turn it back into 1,1,1,1,1 spamming on guards anyway?

Just another thought on the process….

I don’t think this should change anything, i mean the server has to check if your stability is up or not anyway. So in the end it’s just one more action to do. You could even say this change will improve the performance —> more stuns result in less actions per minute.

Isn’t ESO the game, were you can get snared and stunned without a chance to break it? Sounds pretty kittened up for me, I’m not telling you to stay with GW2, I’ll switch to another game as soon as possible, but I don’t think ESO is a good option for that.

My guild and I fight in WvW to have challenging fights against other guilds or big blobs, certainly it would be nice to have some special armor skins you can only get through WvW, but Anet never thought that WvW would get hyped the way it is now…
They never realized that guilds would like to fight each other, or that there would be all these organized guilds roaming across the maps, searching for action.

They just kittened this game up, when they decided to set their focus on pve (and tpvp) – why you ask? Because there are so many other games that outperform gw2 in pve, it’s just ridiculous and they still spitting out this new pve kitten every 2 weeks.
And for the tpvp part; I used to play tpvp for the first 4-5 Month, but than they removed the paid tournaments without something new. When they finally introduced custom arenas, observer mode, new maps, Ladders and all these other featured – most of the tpvp guilds had already left the ship, leaving behind a small portion of tpvp players…
I mean it took them more than 4 month to rotate the kittening maps in tpvp oftener than once every week, which means you had to play the same map over and over again – and the biggest joke, at the same time the maps were rotating randomly in pve (fractals).

I mean, I know that most of the pve players buy gems for kitten from the AH, they need to make money, so they try to motivate all the pve players to stay with gw2. Well to be fair, every now and then they release something for WvW and tpvp, but in the end it’s far to late and far from being good or something, they are just lucky for the time they got into, there is no real competition right now, but I think that will change in the near futur.

In the end there is just one think left to say, GW1 was a really nice pvp game and it’s always the same – “Cobbler, stick to your last!” – they should have never started with all this pve crap. Do one thing right, and that should have been tpvp and WvW (PvP)!

Radian.2478:

The way to get the most gold from WvW is karma training. Get a large zerg and just try to karma train undefended structures. Run a fast moving build so you don’t get separated from the zerg and then all defense so you are most likely to survive when capturing a defended structure.

95% of my game time I play WvW with my guild or in small scale groups / single roaming. I have never joined a pve champ train, but I can tell you one thing: Before I would join a karma train in WvW, I would move my kitten in the pve and join a champ train.
If I waste my time, I would do it in a way were I could get the most gold…

We try to run a balanced setup → 10 frontliner, 10 “backliner” (midline included).
If we go bigger in numbers, we try to stay with this setup, which means if we have 24 guys we try to get 12/12

Norreka.8407:

So we do have this matchup again. Funny enough we were playin some guild intern and got some crazy fights thanks for it here is the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0xWR_xTS0I

Holy kitten, switching attuments on ele by clicking them? That’s nothing you should show around, if you guys wanne be taken seriously…
But to be honest, I’m a little surprised by the fact that IRON has problems to win against you – well maybe because you are bigger in numbers.

Holy kitten, are we really talking about pve in gw2? it’s just ridiculous with all this content skipping and bugging you can do… I don’t know why you talk back on point 2? It’s crystal clear that you get far more rewards for pve than wvw, even Anet says that. Just look at all this pve kitten I have to farm in order to get a legendary.

You can play the way you like, but you have to accept that people will laugh about your builds and equipment and there is a reason for that. If I would start to join random pve groups with a bunker ele, they would call me out too and they would be right to do that.

Sirendor.1394:

I know what you’re talking about OP. We were defending a tower against ~50 people from enemy server with 4 people. One on guild catapult, two on arrowcart. They broke the gate in about 3 minutes nevertheless. By the time I could destroy one ram, they probs had 5 more.

It’s not defense that is underpowered though… it’s blobs that are overpowered.

Sorry but what you are writing here is just crazy, you defend a tower with 4 guys against 50 enemys for 3 minutes and you still wanne buff the defending side?
What’s going on with you people? And now you want to stand on the Walls and attack the invaders without any chance of getting killed? I mean, how can you guys have fun, standing on the siege and pressing 1,2,3 on your keyboards – not even moving a cm?

As it is now, it’s already a pain in the kitten to cap a T3 Keep thats getting defended and another problem are all the chickens who run into their T3 Keeps, if they see guildgroups crossing their path – looks like a lot of people have lost their fighting spirit, if they ever had something like that…

+1 for AC nerf

I think the easiest way for Anet to change something would be to decrease the rally-bonus from 3 times to 1 time.
+ Organized groups get a bonus against big zergs or blobs.
+ Rewarding players, who know how to play their class
- Squishy classes get “punished” (d/d ele in guildgroups)
But I think the positiv points are by far more important than the negative one.

Another nice idee is the removing of hard-ressing, I mean, how often can you ress a member, if you fight with 20 guys against +50? There is just no time for that or you gonna die while doing it, on the other hand, the 50 guys can easily revive there mates.

I don’t know how hard it is to implement these two feature, but i would love to see it happen, even as a big open field test, if it is to dominant just nerf it like the orb-buff.
Maybe a got point for the separation of WvW and PvE Balance?

JonPeters.5630:

Very difficult subject here. I agree you want some form of understandable rules of which field will trigger, however I’m not certain that your own fields is the right one. I’m also not sure it is wrong, but I want to have a bunch of alternative discussion before we dedicate programmer time (which is what it would take) to address this issue.

I think a good exercise would be to list some possible systems and list the pros and cons of each.

i.e.

List Method
There is a personalized list where you get to pick the order that you care about.
Pro: You get to decide
Con: It is a pretty advanced decision that I never expect 90% of players to understand so it doesn’t solve the problem for the majority of the playerbase.
Con: Whatever you setup outside of a specific combat situation isn’t necessarily going to be the right thing once you get in combat. If instead there is a logic rule instead of a chosen one you can adapt your tactics to follow that rule and get the situational results you desire.
Con: Probably the most work of any of the currently proposed solutions without solving the problem for every user.

I think there are a few more pros/cons to this system as well but I think you get the idea.

Other ideas floating out there

• Fixed Priority – Always the same priority for all players.
• Time Based – The most recent or least recent field is what triggers.
• Self Priority – Your own fields take priority (this would have to be a rule that stacks on top of another system.

Jon

Personalized list is the way to go, just put a usefull default setting on the system, this way you got a kind of fixed priority for all the players who don’t know what to do with the personalized list and a really usefull option for all the advanced players and guilds in WvW and tpvp.
—> Pro:
+ Advanced players got the option to optimize their team’s and guild’s
+ You got some kind of soft fixed priority for all the players who don’t know what to do
+ It’s your choice
+ You can decide with you own skill, which fields are available in every moment of the fight, for example (WvW): If your whole frontline got waterfields on their top priority and an ele/engi throws in a waterfield you will trigger the heal. If you got firefields on second place and you wanne stack might infight your ele/engis just shouldn’t throw a waterfield but a firefield -> just that easy.
+ If you run around in WvW and some random guys start to throw their lightfields in a regroup you don’t care anymore.

—> Con
- it’s a forgiving system, for example: If I perform a regroup with my guild and someone of my guys is slacking around throwing a lightfield in a waterfield I don’t have to care about it.

+/- You got the option to stack more than one buff at a time, for example: If you got 10 guys who can trigger a blastfinisher, 5 of them can prioritize fire > light and 5 of them can prioritize fire < light, this way you can stack might and retaliation at the same time – just throw 2 fileds on the same spot.

Actually I’m a little shocked that you think your playerbase is full of scrubs, who don’t know how to play – but if I think a little longer about this, maybe you are right…

DeWolfe.2174:

Far too few have issues with the downed state. I think it’s fine as is.

It’s just a sign that there are far too few who care about the game anymore.
I can’t believe that there are still discussions about down-state and rally – it’s just too strong. There are a lot of good reasons in this thread why it’s too strong, I don’t see why some of you guys still defend that kitten.

Another thing i don’t get is, why Anet not just gives every class the same downstate skills – autoattack, interrupt, heal – thats it…

Yeah, we had some really nice fights today – hope to see you guys again tomorrow!
also a shout out to RCT and azm!

The maps are to small, if they were bigger, the zergs would be inefficient. The same goes for the waypoint in keeps – it just benefits the zergs. The tradeoff for zerging should be the slow movement. imo you should only be able to port, if you are dead and there should be no waypoints in keeps.

Can’t believe that there are people who log out for that kitten, just to save some points that mean nothing – unkitteningbelievable…
To be honest, if I see someone like that it’s 10 times more satisfying than finishing my enemy. I mean, that guy has to restart the game, just because he can’t take the loss.

Fernie.4361:

Mostly Harmless [MH] would like to thank MS [Oo], VS [MoS] and [Meta] for the fights on Gandara BL wednesday evening.

Also a shout out to our friends from CNTK for the cooperation.

Vizunah is exactly as some of us remember from the Blacktide. None of that “Oh but we’re at their spawn outnumbering them” nonsense. No mercy, full on 24/7 “go for the throat” action that broke many a server’s morale. Most succesful WvWvW server in the game.

Mostly Harmless,
Gandara

We had a lot of fun yesterday and some realy nice GvG actions on the BL – keep it going!

We had a lot of fun on MS BL yesterday, greets to all the guilds we fought!

Nice reset, hope we’ll get some awesome fights this week!
Oh and TUP – see ya on the BL, greets go out to Haze and Delf

Ensign.2189:

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If I remember right, one of the devs said in his stream, that they wont change the outmanned buff to a stat boost, because they fear that people get yelled at, if they join the map and the buff disappears. Now we got a situation where upleveled players provide the enemy easy point for getting stomped – imo thats by far more questionable than a buff you get if you are outnumbered…
I don’t give a kitten about the weekly points and I hate seeing upleved characters in WvW but that shows realy nice how paradox and inconsiderated these arguments are.

I like the whole combatsystem and style of the game, but constant lagspikes and questionable decisions on the game design are getting to me in a bad way…
kitten me, It’s time Anet gets some real competition.

Yeah was a fun night, keep it going!

lioka qiao.8734:

@ original post

NO. WvW was intended to be a large scale pvp format. Large zergs are the intention of the format not a side effect. Large zergs are also not the only viable strategy either. Get creative and coordinate your small groups on the map. I assure you if you’re coordinated enough that the enemy’s large zerg will become a detriment to their ability to hold things.

Sounds nice in theory, but there has to be a reason why most of the server run zergs all over the maps. It’s just the best way to win the week and to get wxp/karma.
imo the reasons for that are the small maps and the possibility to reach every inch of the map in very short time frame. If one of your keeps get attackt you don’t need more than 1min to get there.

Well for one part i hope they bring the orbs back and i’m not talking about one orb for each map, i would love to see 3 of them, that spawn simultaneously. For what reason you ask? Easy – the orbs spawn after reset on the map. From that moment on you have to get them and bring them back to your camps – not your keeps – and more important, you have to defend them, if you want to upgrade your keeps and towers
Let’s say you own 1 of the 3 orbs, then you will only be able to upgrade your towers to t2 and your keeps just stay on t1. If you own 2 orbs you can upgrade your keeps to t2 and your towers to t3 and if you finally own 3 orbs you have the option to upgrade your keeps to t3. If you lose one of the orbs while you are upgrading a tower or keep the workers will just stop to work.
If you like you can add some mf or wxp boost after you recovered one of the orbs – i don’t give a kitten.

This way Anet could cut down the kittening zergs and we would get alot of open field action – everyone would win this way. The mechanics are already available, why don’t you guys (Devs) use them?…

I wish you guys a lot of fun this week, too bad we don’t fight AG this week :/
But let’s hope for next week, maybe we’ll get an epic match up!

For Glory and Honor my friends!

Dranul.2094:

Cheers for the good week foes, made an interesting matchup. Looking forward to reset now and a fresh week ahead.

Hope you don’t end up with RS

It’s Friday and the lottery gonna start in a few hours – maybe we’ll get an epic match-up tonight! <3

Parthis.2091:

In true Jerry Springer style on this, the 4th of July, a final thought.
“No matter the outcome, no matter the joy, no one, ever, has uttered the words Oh boy I sure hope we get Blobbaddon’s Mouth in the next matchup!. Until next time, take care of yourself, and each other"

True words, nothing to add here!
I’m out of this kitten – let’s finish off this day and hopefully, we’ll get a nice match-up tomorrow evening…

Ragnar.4257:

SoggyFrog.4170:

For the uninitiated, this is how Gandaran guilds look at the map.

Lmao, so true.

Nobody tell AG, they get jealous, but we’re starting to fall in love with you MS guys <3

Haha, kittening nice picture!
And to tell the truth, we love you and AG too – i think it’s time for an epic match-up on friday, AG we miss you!!! <3

Nice Fight yesterday on Miller BL and a big thx goes out to yak, adac, ce and xxx!
It’s just a pitty that we couldn’t finish xxx off in the ruins before yak rolled us kittening hard
Oh and nice def in the Hill from abba!

Anorwen.2078:

I guess, all of us knows – reset time means big blob time from each server. Well for sure, server, who are playing in higher tiers, got more menpower, better organisation.
Thats why they are in higher tiers. The higher the server is in ranking the larger the WvW menpower. Thats fact. Otherwise they weren´t that high in ranking.

wtf are you talking about? You are in 11th place and right after you there is Gandara in 12th place. I don’t get what you mean with higer tiers – joking?

Good job, it’s the right time to quit – RG and you will leave w3 as a legend
Now it’s time for another guild to step up and try to fill the hole you’ll leave!

Congratulations and cya in cu

Enderr.5416:

Now, a funny moment : millers were charging the SW gate of RoF garrison, we buffed and went out to strike only to find an Omega golem build around 75-80% with only 1 guy defending. I guess they ran out of supplies …

Yeah thats right, we ran out of supplies – kitten happens

Looks like a kittening nice match up this week – see you guys on the field

Well if you ask me like this, i’m not realy sure right now. At the moment i just wanne see what i can get out of my warri, but maybe it would be the best to start with a burst build.

Hey guys,

a few days ago I started to play a warrior in tpvp, I used to play ele and now I wanted a new challenge. For that, I would like to ask you for a greatsword build, which is playable in tpvp – I hope you’ll be able to help me

Dranul.2094:

Cheers Millers Guild [QQ] for the GvG – was a nice change to our normal evening. See you and the others in the lakes tomorrow evening.

Kind Regards TUP

o7

Thx for the nice match, you guys are realy strong!
We hope to get a rematch in the near future

keep it up

Well i’m sorry for your loss, but he’s using his 1-5 skills while he rotates the camera – I honestly don’t think he is handicapped
But nice try

Smoky.3125:

We are not just a big blob
We have also small guild group action.
—-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Gyi-IYdrk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Had a lot of fun in our ts
Hart Rammen = kill and destroy anything

MFG Vlox Dunkral

Stopped watching, after i realized that you are clicking your heal and utility skills with the mouse – sorry, but thats just ridiculous…

Eternal.9148:

Razor.6392:

really… condition damage, healing power? apothecary? wat?

so this is why I have an extremely easy time beating most nub elementalists in wvw…

i agree with razor. anyway, staff gameplay is mostly designed for teamplay while in wv3. for solo roaming i suggest s/d or the overrated d/d bunker. i usually avoid both cond damage/healing power while using staff or s/d, benefits from these stats are quite low for eles. all you have to do is ask to yourself: “how am i going to play with my ele? am i going with a large number of ppl (more than 15)? or am i going to solo or with a small party?”. for the armor, i suggest to start with knight or soldier and slowly balance with your jewelry until you reach your personal balance. it is preferable to change equipment / weapons / traits depending on the situation you’re going to face, there is no fixed formula. as an example, i usually do wv3 with my guild at prime time, and since we’re at least 15, i usually run with staff and soldier armor mixed with knight/cavalier/berz jewels. this gives me a lot of survivability,support and a decent amount of dps. sometimes you may notice a lack of dps while running with your warband, if you do, you can switch to knight armor and berz/valk/soldier jewels, to maximise your dps without affecting your survivability too much.

wtf – you guys don’t have the slightest idea how to play an elementalist do you?
s/d without heal? the ele dont benefit from healpower? bro it’s the whole idea behind s/d ele to get the survivability through healpower… It’s called balance ele – in tpvp you play it with a valkyrie’s amulet and rune of the scholar in combination with water VI and air VI to generate your dmg with a decent amount of survivability.

Next point, the staff benefits in a big way from an all stat gear – why you ask?
easy, you can use every single stat on these items, even +cond and +heal. Thats why it’s so kittening strong for a staff ele.
If you don’t believe me, just watch this stream http://en.twitch.tv/chemsorly/old
I think you all know Red Guard – maybe you guys get it this way…

The only build were you dont benefit that strong from +cond and +heal is a d/d build, but thats not what we discuss here.

The staff is imo realy strong in w3, you just have to stay next to the zerg/your group.
I would recommend an all-stat-gear, especially the staff-ele benefits from this gear.
For example: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQFAWhEmKbyx5gjDAkHmgCLiCWUeMzO2A-jkxAoLAqBQyrIasF3ioxqqJiqV2YSBMwYA-w

This way you get enough hp, might, armor and crit% – to do your job.
The runes and water VI give you a nice dmg boost, if you use your full range. Also your heal is pretty nice, if you get 25 charges

Ok, but how can I continue after the raft?
I just drop down the waterfall, but I cant go on after that…

Hey guys,

I finished world 1, but i’m not able to join world 2 – did I miss something, or is world 2 not available yet?

Kultas Sunstrider.9218:

Davinci.8027:

Map still hasn’t changed.
It’s Saturday.

If they didn’t change it yet, they won’t change it until monday, they don’t work during weekend.
lol anet… wtf u doing, seriously…

1. haha they just forgot it xD

cargan.5689:

Doing clovers got sick of clicking for the single recipes tried the x10 30 clovers 3 attempts

I did 80 trys (single + x10) and got 15 clovers – kitten happens

Yasha.5963:

Paruza.3162:

I was browsing the forum here (I hadn’t read any of it before I posted). I didn’t realize so many other people felt like the Mesmer, thief + downed mechanics were “kittentastic” as well. If they didn’t break your target it wouldn’t be as bad.

That said, if any random person (like myself) can play pvp for awhile and independently come to the same conclusions as the more experienced players on this forum then there’s probably some pretty glaring problems to be fixed.

I’ve pretty much done everything in PvE (which I quite enjoyed actually, the fractals addition I think was great) I’ll probably give the game a break(again) and check back in a few months assuming something else hasn’t made me not care (like starbound).

I believe it is mainly the noobs that complain about thief and mesmer downstate, so other random people like yourself.

But these are the people we need to play spvp/tpvp to get a community thats big enough, to get exciting matches on all skill levels.

Well i think there should be a team rating, where you have to register a team with your friends and start playing team vs team – the team gets the rating and not the individual accounts. Just make it with an option that you can have a guest to play with, if one of your friends is not available – that way the other 4 guys can play, if they think their replacement is good enough (You should have a 12 day trail before you are a “real” teammember – that way, there is no “teampushing”)
So you would split the rating for teams and account.
Which would also support a single que, if you are bored and want to play with some randoms – maybe with an option to register with just one friend.

Get rid of the 3-round tourneys – they are stupid the way they are right now – instead introduce the real tourneys, where you need some kind of “QP” to join them, or make them accessible just 4-6 time a day – with some nice rewards and the option to play monthly tourneys if you can reach a definite position.

Well just some ideas I had right now – they could be far better

@Minoru

Also:

Zephyr’s Boon no longer gives 10 seconds of fury/swiftness when using shocking aura, it now gives 5 seconds just like frost aura does/did

I think it’s pretty interesting, but we’ll see, if it’s a viable tpvp map in the next few days.

RubiBayer.8134:

Drazzar, regarding the update notes, you can find them in our News and Announcements forum: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-February-26-2013/first#post1514186

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

I’m talking about this…

Sorry, but how can something like that happen?
I mean, someone should have played the map and noticed that it’s broken…
And whats about the missing patchnotes, when can we expect an update?
unbelievable…

Emapudapus.1307:

I hate it when some classes can use spells while chaneling stomp without breaking it. Elementalist mist, necromancer plague and thieves teleport some sort if downed player moves away (quickness and stability from shouts is quite reasonable, since you can use them like that all the time). Ususaly they would brake casting spell, just not with stomp x.x .
So is this right to be so or anet will fix it “soon”?

Didn’t checked it, thought the info was right

Every class can do it, you just need to use the right skills…

I don’t see the problem, just play tpvp and everything is ok – the rank is just stupid and means nothing after r20+
I saw so many donks these days with r45+ you wont believe it, these guys are just “hotjoin-pros” nothing special – of course there are player with r45+ who are really really good, but they are usually playing paids