Guild Wars 2

Kingdarkshadow.3175:

Hi

I tried this build yesterday and I must say it is awesome, the only trouble I had was agaisnt a necromancer I couldn’t remove all the conditions and still the necromancer was always stacking more conditions on me.

Can anyone give me some tips about what to do agaisnt necromancers?

stay more than 1200? sumon 2 phant and blink. dunno mb help

i found hard opponent, another phantasm mesmer with gs – sw/p and daze mantra + mirror of anguish. duno exactly trait spec but guess its 20/30/20/0/0. i just most of time sit in stun/daze/knock. 2 break stun not help a lot

playing without stunbreak against good burster is foolish imo. good lock-down enemy can destroy this build quickly.
guard/warrior enemy cant have good duel setup. so they not a indicator

they just young yet ^^ u allways meet “crythieves&co” who dont know simple game mechanic, where duel class/spec alway win (95%) duel but suck in group fight. so relax and play the game to have fun.
and btw hard to teach other how counter mesmer if he learn how beet 1 mesmer, he cant beat others, it all about playstyle/movening. same skill, but different rotation and etc

nice one still good control at 10 lvl. guess u have 80 lvl mesmer?
but!!!! dont create similar movies anymore we got nerf again after crythief QQuing

another crythief and crynecro thread?

Pwnzor.5682:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAW7dlwzqqHVzmGa9IhJFDH5nUQdpj6x1r+3B-jEzAocAcGMSDiCARLgJSA5wioxWfLiGrSGQzgpSXUtHhRrWIgJrBA-w

will this work? never used a full condition mesmer so dont know if its good? gone use it for 1v1 to

1 more time: u need trait focus not scpetr. and btw if u wanna go 1v1 to. retrait cost only 3+ silver

i agree with @op. after 10 month enjoying the mesmer, its not so fun anymore.

and if u think interupt mesmers now good replacement for former mesmer great builds (blind/glamour. immortal, pvp phantasms. others) you are very wrong. if u meet good enemy opponent. he dont die in 5 sec after ur interupts combo. in a group fights 10+ u cant do something valuable. enemy group just have stability. simple buff and easy to get.
so imo if mesmer will nerfed again in over the next patchs. i better go play tetris or jewel star. ofc u can say: go now! but i wait a bit

imo better remove 20 from dueling and put in for inspiration for trait focus. great utility spec for wvw big groups

can u screen ur trait?

agree agree151515

ok i just have some duels now, (nothing special, ele ranger and warrior) hard to get used to. still fingers have self life spam scpt2 and sword4. now both 12 sec. early was 9 and 11 if i remember. and swap wep and try spam pistol4 after sword its 4 sec free spam and nothing happens. and ofc decoy 40 now epic.
but if u not against gc thief u still can play well

duno witch pick

Zumi.6384:

drongas.4189:

if i understand, we got phantom dmg increase. so still need test or dps same or less

Did we read the same patch notes? Where do you see a phantasm damage increase?

sry bad eng, read hit and think about auto, sry for disturbing

if i understand, we got phantom dmg increase. so still need test or dps same or less

or mb i frong, hit point is health? then i think wrong

name change contract – silvary mesmer

Vash.1920:

drongas.4189:

use moa>free win gc thief

are u serious?..
u Think u got enough time to cast this enldess spell against a GC – as long he isn´t stupid he will cancel it or just kill u before u´ve finsihed it.

Even it works there is no way to symbolise that u are just out of chance, let me say – u already gave up when u use Moa i prefer a death in a good duell insteat of using this fight spoiling skill.

u rly need fight again thieves more. after his backstab, u have a couple sec for what u wanna do. he have debuff after stealth before use it again. if he turned u inda stone, u use decoy instantly. and if u see him just a 0.5 sec. but start cast moa, u cath him under hide. gc thieves not so cool guys as u can think, much more hard fight against surv thief. they use brain, gc thieves just spam skills and after when transformed into moa.
i use this skill just because i dont have a choise. tw is useless in 1v1. mi only for escape. i never dont run away so moa very good in my situation when enemy try escape from me or i just see gc thief

a view things:
difficult to call it retaliation build when u get it only from focus4 sword3x2 combo for 12 sec and mb got it from chaos storm (i say again mb) where other 8-18 sec?
i see big problem here against enemy who just atack 1 target like thieves, phantom mesmers. rangers. engies, and rifle warrior. u not shatter, ur phantasms do weak dmg. how u deal with it?
and last. u take retal from block for 3 sec every 35 sec? u dont think better go to illusion tree for confusing cry trait, and then u have perma retal?

use moa>free win gc thief

ok if they move IC in gm line. i can try take phantasm haste (work weird still) but witch trait take first? nothing special here!!!
precise wrack – im not shatter
confusing cry – im not shatter
compounding power – i rarely use autoatack
masterful reflection – f4 use only when stomp
master of misdirection – im not glamor and not shatter
illusionary invigoration – im not shatter

Wolfield.9812:

Effective Power 3327.92
Effective Health (EHP) 22066
Damage Reduction 10.35%
Reference Armor 1836

With 30% Dmg to Phantasms.

Can anyone do any better?

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|1.0.h2|0.0.0.0.0.0|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13|a3.u42a.0.p45.5|0.0|33.34.35.3m.0|e

this
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|c.1g.h4.c.1g.h3|1.0.h2|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13.3s.e17.2s.e13|a3.u42a.0.p45.5|2e.1|33.34.35.3m.0|e
Effective Power 4344.06
Effective Health (EHP) 22066
Damage Reduction 10.35%
Reference Armor 1836

btw. dueling X not so good for phantasms. i just copy/paste ur build with small change

dueling 20 (trait x)
and illusion 5. anothers points as u wish for pve

leave moa alone QQ just need delete skill #5 from it. it annoying when i cant catch when “friend” use 2 dodges and 5

its simple if u have enough sword clones up. they strip boons fast. and btw what kind of gear u use? my soldier/bers gear ourdmg bunker heal
same with elementalist, just strip boons. and avoud knocks

dot forget phantasm mesmer, mostly have signet for phantom hp and sometimes have defender up. so it not so easy kill phantasms as u say

dont forget. sword clones stuck vulm to. so 3 clones+u = 8 vuln in couple sec
and sword do aoe dmg, sceptr only 1 target

i think not enough break stun, u dont think about signet of mifnight instied feedback? u have trait signet, so it can help sometimes alot

u write 30/0/30/0/10 but in editor i see 0/20/20/25/5

kylia.4813:

ouch, 69 damage per confusion, I don’t think I’ve ever seen it that low :O

why? my confusion do 48 damage if i good remember

better use generosity

i agree with other, just run away. warior is free badges for phantom mesmer 1v1

Serhend.6382:

drongas.4189:

i not say he give more than 33%. i say thief easy run away from u if he want and without swift, and not blink not phase help u

peace

They do, you probably do not know how and when to use them. Most thieves run with max 25% speed compared to my 33%. I am effective at using chaos storm and temporal curtain in addition to my speed. They just cannot escape. Only way for them to escape is to go to a corner and spam stealth on mob, so I get bored and leave.

Don’t think warrior would be in top 3 in such an instance, thief cannot get away if you are chasing to kill and using temporal curtain, chaos storm. You even have illusionary leap that closes a big amount of distance plus phase retreat. That is like 3 teleport/half teleport kind of skills combined with a pull, they cannot run. Put centaur runes, try it yourself on WvW, after some getting used to you will see it is easy.

look. short bow skill #5. range 900. cast it 2 times in 2 sec and range 1800. then he go in hide. restore 2 init. then again hide, again restore. done. u cant cath him so easy. ok enough

i know what is centaur runes. i used it when i was just start game and played condbleed rampager set. after roam 10000 ppl i just dont chase anymore boring, and i never run away, if i die, then die. happens, play more 4 month, try diferent specs, and u see, u can find some good runes or setup without swift. early rly like lyssa, epic set for support and escape when hot. then melandru set with food=u dont care about cond anymore

i not say he give more than 33%. i say thief easy run away from u if he want and without swift, and not blink not phase help u

peace

edit: wait wait. u can run same with staf ele. perma swift plus teleport. if DD ele u cant run same time, ele faster. warior can easy run away to with gs-sw/horn just drop target from u. have perma swift to. but more jump skill. ranger gs-sw/horn not have perma swift but can jump rly fast. thief like i say, just short bot 55555 and he run away. underwater yes. mesmer win against other. and with mesmer easy to escape run away than catch and chase

i repeat. creat thief, go to the mist, take this trait and try run with swiftnes first, then try run without swiftnes but in stealh. if u dont know enemy skill mechanic how u can kill normal player? l2p

omg u rly l2p
signet of shadow 25%. in stealh +12.5%=33% event without shadow signet he still run 33% if u dont know, just log in game and check
plus short bow 5 x2 u cant catch thief
plus he steal from u full set of boons for 10 sec. dodge give swift again
4-5 sec and thief 2-3k range from u.
repeat l2p
end of discusion, gl catch noobs in game

check thief trait acrobatic 6. it means 33% speed without swift
this discusion going no where. i see u dont know the game mechanic and dont know other class build/specs. better go l2p

k u pro if u think so

but u rly think thief cant just run away from mesmer? they without swift have same speed in hide with ur swift. where his loses? his teleport better, speed better, escape skill exelent. i dont say thief unbeatable. a say smart thief just leave mesmer alone if see cant kill in 1-2 burst. i dont underst how they run away to the death?
just look u never fight against good thieves. mb u just meet invanders who take vista or sp?

and i know how play with mesmer, not needed teach me tactics.

i speak figure about power prec. you have to emphasize that 165 power is op. no its not

8% good, but sometimes 30% def better. u dont think so?

when ur all skill on cd (happens) u cant avoid simple thief bs. then u just run with swiftnes somewhere away. yes? if thief good he kill u in 5 sec when jsut try run with swift

thief cant escape away from u? rly? away from mesmer? u kidding? he simple use cnd on ur clone or somewhere near walking mob. or just smoke field+hs for perma stealh, u cant do anything witout target. 1 time u can lie chaos storm, but this dont kill thief. escape with thief its rly easy

peace to you my care bear ^^

Serhend.6382:

wall of text

1) should I even answer this
2) I do not see a point in being glamour/confusion mesmer in wvw right now
3) 50 power and 50 precision is not better, at the very best it could be equal, I even doubt it provides the same amount of damage increase in total compared to 100 power, 50 precision is only 2-3% crit chance increase
4) yea, really. I said this is the maximum amount of power you can get from a rune set, no other rune set (1 specific SET of same name) gives more power than 165 power.
5) 6% is 6%, without it then I would be lacking it since there is defense, according to what you are saying. Plus it gives 10% crit damage. You can never get enough direct damage.
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1) just sarcasm
2) its sample
3) i mean if take . 50 % power and 50 % prec better than 100 % power. if every 2 strike is crit u have more dmg than just hit
4)whatever
5)yes in this game direct dmg win against other dmg like reflect or conditions. but for win 6 not something special.

i play with mesmer 9 month. i tryed mb every mesmer build. and i know how good when u have swiftnes, but its not most thing what u need, i agree u can stomp sometimes when u catch me when i drunk or i not pay attention, kitten happens. and i am mostly roamer and i guess i kill every profession with every build. and like i say, centaur runes is good when u need go far somewhere poi or just die near enemy JP.

u can get rune set for ur build for (sample) perma protection, or for -cond duration, its much more better than have just 6% dmg. its depend on build and play style.

not use gs after patch when anet broke the i bers. if thief wanna run away, u cant do anything for disturb him.

i combined air runes with air sigil. it help alot agains GC enemy and do 3-4k dmg. if i against more tanky player, it still good bonus

Iruwen.3164:

Funny how people totally ignore that centaur runes are not exclusive to mesmers in a discussion that revolves around a lack of options to gain swiftness balanced among classes. Also funny how people always reduce GW2 to PvP and WvW while most people are probably playing PvE.

u say PvE? pve u can play naked, random traits like 7/13/12/29/8 and still do whatever u want against mobs. real challenge is another playr against u who use hands and brain, not computer

1) no way
2) yay we playing diferent game i guess, say it to glamour/confusion mesmer
3) u new in this game? 50 power and 50 prescison beter than 100 power always (if ur build not based on retal)
4) rly? i know 17 rune set who give u same amount of power and better other stats. like strengh rune or pack. and runes of ogre beat ur centour on dmg x2
5) so? some of def runes neutralized ur 6% easy.

and yes mesmer no need extra swift in battle because we have alot of jump skill. only if u wanna try catch someone, then u just need have gs or focus and spam 4. and yes centaur best if u just run for poi or somewhere to die.

i understand u play ram build where: u see enemy! u spam everything what not on cd. but normal/experienced players have combination rune setup. like water/monk or what ever. some use air runes (like me) with extra dmg to gc thief 4k~, some use epic rune set like melandru. so dont say me centaur runes is only 1 choice for mesmer. this game not about swiftnes

depend on situation, focus great if traited like def utily and good on big fight, and also iwarden is combo finisher. sword is more for 1 target kill. hit like a train and very fast. both dps same +-

wanna aoe? pickup sword main hand and go press skill 1 and 2. mesmer not so cool in aoe dmg if u not nerfed glamour mesmer (for large amount of foe) or gc shatter (for small group of foe)

btw no1 know wep sigil +5% chance work on phantoms.

@osi staff ofc is good wep and amazing def skills. but dort forget: staf is clone generator. sometime 1 clone disturb alot.
and about 20% hp. its still nice boost. and its insta, not like signet. i saw alot phantasms die from 1 hit without trait. ofc this is can be chnaged when u needm but nothing special in this trait tree if u not glamour and not use focus

Serhend.6382:

Garr.1823:

Argument with Centaur runes, that they are combat… more then invalid. They give power, yes. But they are not combat runes. They can be runes for searching some1 @ combat field, but not for direct confrontation.

Lol, continue with your folly. Power is used ONLY in combat. And this rune gives as much power as any rune can give. It gives you around 6% direct damage increase and 10% crit damage increase. Both of these attributes have their use ONLY in combat.

You cannot call this rune a non-combat rune. These runes make me one of the fastest players on entire wvw map and I have never had a problem downing my opponents because I have centaur runes and not something else.

You are same as qqers for nerf, you suck so bad you qq for buff.

I think you cannot even kill an ambient creature, considering your harcore qqing.

You even kill your own logic in only one SINGLE post of yours.

You say WvW mainly consists of searching for an opponent and running

actual combat @ WvWvW rare last longer then few min, but running and searching an opponent, not zerg.. That can take a long.

And then you cry that centaur runes are not for combat but rather for running

they are not combat runes. They can be runes for searching some1 @ combat field, but not for direct confrontation.

According to your logic there is already ZERO PROBLEM if you use centaur runes, lol.

centaur runes is non-combat. pirate runes better in combat than centaur
u cant understan:t not only centaur have power stats, some builds dont need power at all. some need. 6% direct dmg not op. for the run swiftnes, just bay green stuff+centaur and run with it, when u see enemy, just swap armor for normal/needed gear

dont like staff for def? swap to sc/sw for 2 block. not many phantasm mesmer use staff in wvw
and i dont understand why u wear double sword and not take sword trait? u dont like blured ever 8 and block every 11?

i mostly agree with Dasbola. but dont forget if u just roamer and search 1 vs 1(2) better go 100% like Pyro build. checked and examined, work best. but if u play with/against group 3-5 ppl. use GS better. traits still 10/30/0/25/5 work good
p.s. but if u wanna play ZvZ. better go engi or necro

tip: have enough karma? 30,40,50,60,70 rare armors u can buy in wvw ur server citadel merchants, near asura gate to lion arch. if u cant now, for ur alts its simple way

btw, guide how level ur mesm without pain
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1cjmri/new_player_guide_to_leveling_a_mesmer_the/

your heart bleeds looking at the guard and warrior?
wait 80, you take revenge on them

let Anet make phantoms insta cast and problem solved

imo replace disenchanter to defender. why u need so much cond removal? and traited torch and disenchanter. why u dont wanna try traited focus? its best defensive offhand werp
and on staff energy>chill