Guild Wars 2

Can’t Anet send us shirts instead?
I’d take a “7 weeks hardcore WvW and all I got was that lousy t-shirt” or something like that.

I’m just trolling your whining server mates. Why? Because I can’t hear it anymore. You always complain. You stack your server and win against SoR and JQ your server fills the forums with “BEASTGATE” and stuff. If you don’t win you start a whine parade against the server who beat you “It’s so unfair, you stacked your [NA/OCX/SEA/EU]” and start a big crowd funding campaign while blaming SoR or JQ for overstacking.
Maybe you should start muting those players. I don’t call names, because you know them yourself.
It’s a game, all T1 servers are stacked, there is no superlative of stacked. The majority of JQ wants good fights and we didn’t make that schedule nor do we like it. So please don’t blame us.

So warriors are a better ranged class compared to rangers?

And while at it, tone down damage from power builds?

Anet could finally start banning for flame or misbehaviour. Make it like matchmaking bans in CSGO. Make the ban stack until the kids learn.

Fact: Jedsus wins by style vs. the guy I don’t know.
Funfact: I had too much beer to remember who I am

Yeah, we heard that already.
SoR plays only for the fights
SoR never plays for ppt
SoR wants 1v2
TW always runs with 15 people
SoR doesn’t want transfers
SoR is the greatest community
SoR has no fairweather players
SoR has the strongest NA
SoR is not stacked in any timezone

Maybe I forgot something, but it really gets old and it doesn’t become true by permanently repeating.

The weird thing with that patch is, that I sit here, drinking coffee and waiting for LA to burn while some 1000km away a real city burns. That’s so bizarre.
Good luck, people of Kiev!

Impulsive.8240:

You reminded me of a necro who was sitting on a mortar shot to stack burning and then transferring them to someone else, lo and behold, you’re dead!

Which is very clever. Why would you want to punish this? It’s by far better gameplay then to headbutt and 100blade someone.

Thieves shouldn’t complain about people running from them. You can’t beat them. You can only pull a draw 1v1. Bring your zerg or ignore them.

And just because a server is losing doesn’t mean it has no population. BG went into hibernation again. Never had so many BG players in EotM like this week.

A tier 1 server shouldn’t be opened and never get a link. Anet really needs to check their system of “activity measurement”.

Aeonblade.8709:

I love how the esports thing has worked out for all 17 people playing sPvP.

You mean the sPvP population has doubled?

MMORPG aren’t great for esports. It may work if you have a complete pvp esports balancing team inside your mmorpg company which balances especially for this part of the game.
No mmorpg ever did this, because it costs them money and brings almost none. Anyone remember WoW esports?

For the denial team it’s a great decision and maybe it’s good for gw2 pvp too when they don’t have to think about balancing of a minigame inside their game anymore.

I got Honor of Humanity from a corpse of FEAR. Is Anet trolling me?

There is a lot of ideas on the forums for changes wvw needs (and some that it doesn’t need) and I think we should get a bit more constructive if we want to be heard.

Many, me included, don’t believe Anet will ever hear the wvw players, but we can at least try and see for ourselves. So, let’s do this.

Everyone feel free to add some points you think are necessary to make wvw a better game mode

General changes:
- the algorithm Anet uses to determine which server is full and what servers get links
- a transfer lock after recent transfers
- loyalty bonus for staying on servers

Changes on the mechanics:
- lower siege cap
- lines of sight

Quality of Life changes:
- templates to load for switching gear and builds

Balancing for wvw:
- stealth rework in wvw or reworked revealed buff
- deathly chill internal cd?
- condition apply from mesmer rework
- defender runes, perplexity runes rework

Any other ideas? Feel free to post them, I’ll add everything to the list and feel free to discuss it – in a friendly manner

I won’t equip any character with ascended armor. I did it for 1 weapon and decided not to go through that grind again for some stats.

For Football fans

JQ = Manchester United
SoR = Manchester City
BG = Liverpool

Seems to be right. None of the teams has anything to do with good EU football. NA T1.

You win some, you lose some. Found the match on yt and I still dont get the excitement about gvg, it’s like playing arena in wow and I really hated that.

But congrats to EP.

Interesting. Can you mix EU and NA now? That would be nice, thanks.

I really like SoR strategy for this week. They don’t bring that much players into wvw this week to show how overstacked BG is. With that ppt they can talk to guilds which are interested in joining BG or SoR and tell them BG is already stacked enough while they seriously need more people. And if someone asks for JQ or TC they can say “JQ is going down, we got two of their NA guilds that week” or “TC can’t even handle JQ”

The other option is burnout in combination with great weather and holidays.

Pick what fits you better.

The matchmaking is a terrible mess. Matches are still one-sided. If you have one match out of ten that doesn’t end with a 300+ difference in points it’s considered a lucky day.
It’s the same kitten we had in S2.

They really have to reset all MMR to zero after a season ends, everyone starts at the bottom and fix the matchmaking.
Separate groups from solo players and stop throwing people who lost 1 to x matches in a group and put them against people who won their last x matches.
That worked way better before HoT or even in S1.

What really bothers me is..

Will guesting work between EU and NA servers. Our guild is on Jadequarry (NA), but we have friends on Drakkar See (DE) and plan to do events and dungeons together.
Will this work?

A pug running with your group is a l2p issue too. Just teach him not be a kitten.

Someone dropped the ball.

Wait, fighting for a reward makes people toxic?
People who can’t behave in a game should be treated exactly as they are treated in rl. If someone thinks it’s ok to insult someone he should get punished.

There is no a reason for being a kitten in a game and there never will be.

Problem with meeting an oPP is that they run from most 1v1 and come back with their team and than you get /laugh to death.

Experiencing the same problem now. Everything worked well yesterday, at the moment neither my character on Drakkar Lake nor on Jade Quarry are playable.

ISP: Kabel Deutschland

If it’s a thief or a warrior you will need a group. Hope Anet cuts their mobility soon.

I like SoR. I enjoy playing against them

The last time people on NA tried to make wvw great again killed the game mode and most servers.
The majority of NA players doesn’t want to fight, they want easy karmatrains and “winning” their tiers. You had your chances and you failed and with that you killed wvw on NA.
You won’t get fights when everyone transfers off to the bandwagon of the week. It was stupid from the beginning to recruit people into timezones which were already on high and still people transfered into this servers on their own.
Mag is the latest example of this stupid behaviour (which BG perfected over the years and JQ’s SEA was great at it too).

Everyone, their mothers and fanboys transfer with guilds to server A, while server B and C can’t compete from numbers.
A is stacked for some weeks with all the players from a timezone (or three timezones) and people on server A get bored because no one wants or can fight their 50+ people blob or their 4-6 25 people guild groups.
The servers B and C get bored because they can’t fight due to lower numbers or because hiding behind 30 arrow carts per gate isn’t really exciting in wvw.
What’s the solution for this since 2015?
Let’s transfer to server D, the server that has "good fights on tier 2 or tier 3. Let’s go there and get the server into tier 1.
While the servers B and C finally can get some fights with server A, server D roflstomps servers E and F over three to four weeks until the players from both don’t show up for fighting anymore and quit the game.
With server D winning even more bandwagoners and “so called fight guilds” transfer over and server D (stacked in 2-4 timezones now) reaches tier 1 to fight servers that still have the same numbers as before the death of server A.
People get bored again and someone finds server H which seems to be great for a “so called fighting guild”.

That’s NA wvw in a nutshell and it’s broken since the beginning of the game because the majority of you guys never cared for fights or balance. It’s all about trolling, flaming and stroking the kitten on cancer forums.

You achievment guys are pretty weird. Maybe you do something else before your heads explode.

I find thieves far more disgusting because of their limitless mobility combined with damage and stealth

And if you are German and your knowledge of the English language is really bad, contact me, I can translate for you.

Deutsche Spieler können sich vertrauensvoll an mich wenden, wenn sie gerne auf dem großartigsten WvW Server spielen wollen, aber die Englischkenntnisse begrenzt sind.

kaltastic.3146:

Nakoor.1980:

salluks.6017:

Nakoor.1980:

salluks.6017:

kaltastic.3146:

Offski.4897:

Seriously BG is it possible to have a fight without putting 100’ of ac’s up? We are’nt trying to take your keep we are just trying to have some fights.

No excuses your blob is as big as ours, you will never learn to fight if u always run and alwauys rely on ac’s.

SoR BL just a few minutes ago; SoR zerg dropped AC’s against equal numbers first in NE camp and then 2 min later in North camp…

Everyone uses AC’s but only one group of people is deluding themselves that they don’t and come here to constantly complain about it.

yea i was in that fight, it wasn’t equal, u were more and yeah i agree its sad to see dropping AC’s at the drop of a hat, i simply stopped running with that group and moved to a different channel after i saw that.

Anet please nerf AC’s its not fun for anybody!

It’s glad to see you talking so poorly about your fellow server mates.

am talking to AC use specifically, doesnt matter what server it is.. and i am not the only one who hates them more than anything in gw2.

i am talking in general and not specifically about that one fight

It’s not a bad idea to drop Ac’s if you are massively outnumbered. Dropping them when even fights or you outnumber them then I can see that being annoying. Though it’s all part of the game now. Everyone needs to adjust to that.

For people who need a visual on what TW means when they use terms like massively outnumbered.

I count 15 SoR in that zerg. TW doesn’t run with more people.

I spilled my coffee over “high risk” depending thieves. Do you know what high risk means? No, run a necro or ele.

little ceasar.9254:

gebrechen.5643:

It seems DB really needed those transfers. Nice work, TC and FA

Any fellow GoT fans sees the irony here? An individual trolling about guilds switching sides while in a guild named after a mercenary band (stormcrows) known for flipping sides when faced with losing.

The irony is that we are still on JQ while so many others pussed out to Bandwagonbrand.
And yes, we got paid to stay – with bags.

Don’t take monsoon too serious, he stills thinks wvw ranks are connected to the skill of the player.

coglin.1867:

How so?

Good luck finding anyone out there and reaching him in time if he has touched a sentry.

No, it is literally impossible. Once you flip a keep, all enemies in the keep or displayed on the map as a red dot for 5 minutes.

It’s not that hard to hide or run in this terrain for 5 minutes.

How so? You have guard that highlight the enemy on your map, scouting is easy, just different. Then again, if you think it is easy for a mesmer/thief to hide when their dot is on your minimap full time, I can see how you would think scouting makes no sense.

First of all it makes almost no sense to try to defend a keep. You won’t get a waypoint fast, so it’s not that important to keep is (while supply isn’t much of an issue anymore)
Second, even if you place siege the keeps/towers are so confusing that you can’t tell someone to refresh all the siege. Sure, that will take time, but that’s a back to the beginning, why you want to hold a keep that is easier taken than defended and hasn’t the same worth a waypointed keep had in the old maps.

Another problem for scouts is that you either need a lot of them to really see whats happening or you only scout inner which will make it almost impossible to get a defensive force inside in time without a waypoint.

It’s not really impressing when you try to hit him with blind up.

Sad part about this is that Anet has abandoned wvw as a game mode. So nothing will happen besides stupid changes to desert borderland – the map no one really wants and that fixes non of the issues the game has.
But at least some pve dudes can go to desert borderland for the ruins daily now.

Still laughing at people transfering.

Necro gets a buff and the forum drowns in tears.

Enough crying on forums and the dev team caves in.

Way to go, Anet. Can we hope you delete thieves now when enough people open threads about them?

morrolan.9608:

JQ has no EU and only has 1 ocx guild now as opposed to TCs 3-4 that run during ocx.

This sums it up pretty good. Until TW transfered over my main timezone (EU 18:00 – 00:00) was empty. By empty I mean outnumbered on all borderlands with 10-15 guys on EB.
On saturday I got into wvw early and all borderlands were empty, but EB was queued with 20-40 people (because the only active commander was in EB) and that pretty much sums up the “action” from early EU to early NA.
Even NSP&friends had more people online in EU while TC was karma-training the weekend.

Huttball was awesome. I remember throwing the ball to a half dead enemy a few seconds before the end, the whole team flamed me until i pulled him to me and killed him and receiving the ball again. And all those Sith and Jedi jumped up to him.. so funny

I somehow miss it.

I don’t understand why DB is talking about “their” garrison. I see an EMP banner there not an RE.

Deli.1302:

Lol! JQ is like the most bipolar server. One minute they’re double-teaming SoR with BG, next minute they’re double-teaming BG with SoR.

That’s not the problem with JQ. The problem is that BG is a bit “weird” when it comes to tactics.

Example 1
SoR tries to take an upgraded JQ bay. BG has at least two good options.
- take an unguarded upgraded SoR hills
- take an unguarded upgraded JQ spawn tower.
BG runs to JQ bay to watch the fight or get wiped there or get some bags or whatever.

Example 2
JQ attacks SoR garrison, SoR comes to defend.
BG attacks JQ spawn tower and camp instead taking their bay back or.. getting NW tower.

Sure, you can play it that way, but it makes absolutely no sense. And many of the situations when JQ decides to go for BG are because BG just did something stupid before, like taking JQ spawn camp with their whole zerg, while JQ is pushing SoR garrison or such things.

That whole discussion reminds on my beginnings in WoW. Same situation, only totally kittened rogues couldn’t win 1v1 or 1v2. Everyone knew how op that was, but only rogues said it’s a l2p issue. It is not, it’s a class balancing issue.
Someone should do a “world of roguecraft” video for gw2.

I was in wvw for two hours this week. I don’t know if the doors show up this week or if they try to stack timezones again.

Talyn.3295:

Does not seem all that hard to understand. JQ loves to pick on the T2 Servers. Cause when the face BG and SOR they lose. “Its always a double team. Always. We always play awesome. So when we lose it was because we were double teamed”

Last time we played BG they complained we were totally stacked and even didn’t show up in the matchup and took their break.
TC was much better than BG last matchup.

I’m fine if Anet resets the league and make a fairer schedule. But I don’t have to be a seer to know BG will be complaing again, when they come 2nd or 3rd because of:
- the other server is stacked
- they 2v1 us
- we lost our main commander
- all the pve guys queued our maps

Complaingate will always find a reason to complain.