Guild Wars 2

globe.7238:

Regardless of them zerging your GvG session, if they want to play that way then so be it. Stop flaming them already and get over it. You guys constantly complaining about them is just as bad as them rolling over your GvG. You talk about “respect” and “manners”, well learn to be the bigger person and move on. Getting on the forums and throwing hissy fits isnt going to do anything, roll them on the field when you see them and maybe they’ll think twice before doing it again.

You’re kinda ‘throwing a hissy fit’ yourself, there…

Israel.7056:

Asglarek.8976:

You do know how the elo glicko system works right? In lay terms that week 1 loss to jq means bg has to beat jq twice by double the points just to get back where they were in week1also theoretically jq could maintain rank1 by finishing a close 2nd for several weeks,

How many points would BG have to beat JQ by to get 1st overall?

One. Billion. Points.

We were leading the PPT last night NA Prime time during the five minutes that I was on. Therefore, JQ is the best NA Prime time server when it’s most competative.

And not just last night, but another night as well.

And on weekends, when I’m on, we dominate NA Prime. At least when I’m on.

I don’t care about anything else.

Except that even when we’re not dominating the PPT, we are doing more with less than any other server. That’s winning. Not PPT. Except when we have the PPT lead. Then, that’s winning too.

Basically what it comes down to is when I’m on, the other servers can’t match us player for player skill wise. Zerg all you want, other servers, but that’s not skill! Skill is what we do. Learn it and then maybe you can compete with the best!

High five!

covenn.7165:

hex.3218:

Nah it was sarcasm generated by the belief that one should not keep moving the target for the measure of success.

Interesting.

So who specifically is moving the target?

Please tell me that you aren’t making the classic mistake of thinking that people cannot have different opinions on things, and are instead trying to apply individual opinions to a group of people as a whole? Your sarcasm seems to indicate that you are.

I am not sure I get you…

I’ll explain for my part and see how this goes.

First, SoR said it was weekends that counted. Then it became NA Prime. Now, it’s ‘NA Prime when I’m on.’

First it was PPT at the competative times, then PPT NA Prime, then PPT didn’t matter and was a function of population.

I just want to know the specific times a server needs to ‘dominate’, and how we determine ‘domination’, and have folks stick with those measures.

Example. Recently JQ dominated from 5 pm EST to 11 pm EST as in held the PPT lead. BUT, that didn’t count for domination because SoR owned our Garrison, accourding to folks on SoR.

Recenly, JQ dominated the PPT for the weekend, but that didn’t count. Only Sunday night was when it counted.

Look, I understand you cannot control what happens when you aren’t on. I also understand that SoR is rarely at full strength, except certain days during NA Prime.

But all the noise about folks dominating when it’s equal numbers is subjective unless we could find population graphs for each map, every day of the week and only count those times as a measure of which server plays best at full strength.

OR, we could go back to the original idea which is to talk about individual battles and specific fights and say GG all we had a blast fighting you at X.

That’s what my sarcasm means.

I’m trying here, I really am.

If DAoC was never previously released and went on the market today, even with updated graphics, it would be destroyed in player reviews, abandoned and made a punchline. Especially at $15 a month.

DAoC was good for what it was at the time. That does not mean it was the RvR paradise most people seem to make it out to be. Who here was there for launch? remember the hate threads? Even after the RvR community got established, man did everyone bash the game.

It’s only now that we are safely in the land of fond rememberance that we could ever think that DAoC was the Eden of large scale PvP.

Honestly GW2 and DAoC are so frigging different and so many levels that comparing them is pointless. It’s not a contest.

The only thing to be gained out of the DAoC discussion is ‘What did they do right?’ and emulate it in GW2, and ‘What did they do wrong?’ and eliminate that from GW2.

GW2 takes a beating from the DAoC community in the present, but I am 100% positive that 5 years from now, players will be saying the same things about GW2 as they do about DAoC. These will be ‘the good old days’ and whatever new game is out will be crap.

Y’all need to stop and think about this ‘my server/your server’ stuff. All servers are made up of essentially the same types of people: gamers. Claiming one server is a weak willed bunch of bandwagoners is absolutely stupid. Those weak willed badnwagoners or just gamers like you and me. And they’re only a small part of a server.

I often wonder what it would be like if they’d chosen different names for the servers. Or given us less servers to choose from. I bet anything that we’d all be playing with a very different group of players, but claiming the exact same things.

The people you say all these negative things about were a name change away from being your best buddies in game. Plain and simple, I bet they could secretly swap the players in one major guild with the players from another and without TS or mumble, no one would know it.

Harping on coverage is one thing. That’s real. But saying one server is the hard working good guys and another is a bunch of devious front running lazy bad people is just nonsense. We’re gamers. The servers are no more than name tags. We all could have ended up on different servers and not noticed much of a difference.

Sanxxx.5126:

Whether FEAR are good or not they were just playing the game.

If only the G(imp) v G(imp) forum warriors put that effort into WvW we’d probably have some better fights.

Ah the anonymity of the internet spawns another digital hero! Bravo, sir! You have made such an excellent point, we will now be closing the internet permanently as there is nothing left to be said.

As far as good fights go, you have to actually stick around to have one.

I love how I make one post about how SoR is the little Arrow Cart that could, and whoa! OMG did he jus say dat??? Naw, not my SoR!!!

Okay some of you remembered me and were like Oh that hexy, he so crazy. I told y’all back when JQ was number 1 I’d be back to force feed you a taste of your own medicine. The idiotic claims I make are yours from 2 months ago. Just wanted to see how you liked wearing those shoes after I put a little dog poo in them.

But anyone who’s all undie bunched about me giving SoR a little bit of the business should know better. You guys should know me well enough by now. Go eat you apple sauce and take a nap.

So, here’s the scoop. Since SoR are in first place, they must be a bunch of try hards PvDooring on our off hours, zerging 70 deep, hiding in their keeps what else… oh right! Bunch of bads that can’t take a camp without 40 people.

This post is awesome.

BG will kick your butts once they get their new assistants.

JQ would kick your butts right now, but we only care about the times we’re on and hate PPT and aren’t the try hard nation of Rall. Booo! lols.

Bye Arrow Carts!

Plus, I need to display my name for certain screenshots. This has to be an oversight.

Enrage the mamals?

DONE!

Israel.7056:

It seems that as the weeks progress, these matchup threads become increasingly vitriolic and mean-spirited. I think it’s a shame because I don’t dislike either SoR or JQ as opponents.

That’s because the reasonable folks stop coming after it gets this bad.

No. Jump Puzzle gives free blue prints and badges. NO WAY I’m letting an enemy get free stuff that can be used to kill me later.

Jahn.7019:

hex.3218:

Jahn.7019:

FOO carries JQ, your wall of text only proves that you’re overly sensitive to the matter since your guild makes no difference in WvW atm.

And getting rolled by SoS and SoR constantly is now known as “kamikaze” and “for science”, noted.

Oh man… wrong guy to call out, my friend… you must be new to this…???

What? Is he going to give me less bags now?

Did you just claim to farm one of the best open field guilds in the game for bags?

Lemme guess, you also took on RG solo and won, right?

People still argue about stuff that happens in WvW? I thought we’d gone over all this already. WvW is WvW and you play it, you own it. Don’t bring any of that complaining stuff up in here. You’re the one who pressed B. YOUR FAULT!

I know that the internet is about never admitting you’re wrong and all, but some of you should just post a quick “Okay, my bad” and save what little of your reputation is left.

Maybe if certain guilds spent less time farming badges and more time taking objectives (especially when your two opposing servers are busy doing and watching GvG), maybe your server would be doing a little better than they are.

I am an SoR defender in the fact that I have always found them to be hard working and pretty good on the field of battle. It’s a shame when one guild can make an entire server look bad.

If you want to play the whole ‘Red is Dead’ and ‘PvP zone anything goes!’ card, maybe BG and JQ should show you why that is a bad policy. If anything goes, then perhaps BG and JQ should spand the next few days spawn camping every exit of your home waypoint. We need bags too. If your going to leave your starting area, it’s your own fault.

There are many ways to draw out this match that you wouldn’t like…

Eviator.9746:

Intruiging! DB is happy to have a boost to our NA presence. Hopefully whatever drama existed stays on JQ, and doesn’t bleed over. DB is rather laid-back and content with its current guilds, and we like to focus our animosity at our opponents.

Good luck with that!

Adaneshade.2409:

volmok.3580:

I’d rather see them implement some beneficial things for owning and defending a tower or a camp as a guild.
At the moment there is no reward in defending a tower (unless you have heavily invested in upgrades); you benefit more from flipping it

Somehow I think that this game is not what ANet advertised, but considering it does not require a subscription I am OK with it; when a real RvR game will appear, I’ll make the switch, but until then GW2 will have to do.

V.

The problem is there will NEVER be another RvR game. No one is willing to copy the formula exactly as it was presented in DAoC. It’s just the sad fact that with MMOs being mainstream now, there are more “casuals” than “hardcore”. Back in DAoC’s prime, MMO gamers were a tiny subset of gamers and nearly 100% could be calssified “hardcore”. If given the chance to make beaucoup money or make a game with merit….companies will always pick the money.

Definitions related to this post:
Hardcore – players willing to put hours into creating a build and practicing it, who value something they have to work their kitten off to accomplish, making the accomplishment more important than the reward

Casual – players who’d rather something be easy to master, who don’t see the value in having to work to improve and would rather just be given a “reward” without having to really work for it

I’ve got 2 things to disagree with here. Even UO had ‘casual’ players. Even by your definition of ‘casual’ which is incorrect.

Casual means a player who can or will only dedicate a limited amount of time to a game.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

Casual does not mean ’doesn’t care’, ‘wants things easy’, ’doean’t practice’ in it for cheap rewards and no commitments. Casual means “I only have an hour tonight because the kids are screaming, the wife is sick, I need to finish the taxes, so let me get in and do what I can before I am forcefully torn away from the game.”

And casuals do NOT invest money in the game. hardcore do. The 10 hour a day player is who they target. And they use data to guide them. Players all want different things and we all assume what we want is what the majority must want. We tend to back that up with people on forums saying it. But the majority of players will never post in a forum and probably want just as many varied things as a normal subgroup in a demographic does.

In short, MMOs populations have always been a mix of the curious beginners, the ‘casuals’ without enough time to play, and the hardcore player.

Casual players are not lazy, or greedy, or non caring people, nor are they less deserving of consideration. And they do not make up the ‘taget demographic’ that the designers follow.

TBH, the problem is that PvE tends to be much more popular than PvP in ANY form among most gamers, and always has been. Remember when UO split the shards? That was because 80% of their paying population who would spend hours grinding didn’t want some PvP ganker to take their stuff.

If you could look inside their data numbers, I am willing to bet that even in the beginning, about 80% of players spent their majority of time ( a WIDE majority) in PvE. Only 20% of us in almost any game are ‘hardcore’ PvP. That’s why guilds travel from game to game together because it’s so hard to find enough PvP folks.

Until PvP becomes MUCH more popular, we will never see a true RvR game, true. But ias little to do with casuals, and there aren’t any more casuals than before.

Being from JQ, I think SoR and BG should ignore JQ and let us beat both of you down without any resistance.

It get much much better.

1. Make sure Map and Team are turned on in your chat window.
2. Read. Follow orders.
3. Get Team Speak if you really want to play.
4. Instant fun.

Hang way back at first and watch. The battle moves. Literally moves and you have to move with it. Make sure you know where the edges are. You will get flanked if you don’t. Watch out for easy routes to your back, or obstacles people can sneak behind (or under).

Learn about supply, blueprints and how to build stuff.

Ask questions.

kidbs.8920:

Nuked.2360:

kidbs.8920:

VOLKON.1290:

covenn.7165:

Even last night while we were holding most of the JQ BL. If we had been 2v1ing, we wouldn’t have been forced to regularly and repeatedly leave the garrison we were defending from you, to stop SoS from taking hills/bay/southern towers from us. In fact, we had to sacrifice objectives due to this several times because we were getting hit by both of you simultaneously.

Can I complain that your two servers have some conspiracy together to make it hard on SoR? Not really, it is the way the game is played and the very nature of three way fights.

Just let it go.

Last night wasn’t Friday night last I checked. I’m talking about out-of-the-gate Friday night and our subsequent recovery, how we weren’t broken or demoralized and came back quite well from the punch in the nose, which appears to have broken the other servers will heading into the remainder of the weekend and on into the week.

Let’s not get silly here… it doesn’t take much these days to recover when you have superior coverage.

You guys based your entire existence in tier one by fighting for 2nd place and riding the coattails of the strongest server rather than seriously attacking them. You guys now have all the numbers that you could possibly need so it’s no longer necessary. But the sheer audacity of anyone from JQ mentioning a 2v1 against them is lulzy.

Glad you know our history. We fought for 2nd all those times against Henge and SBI got it! Thanks for giving me that insight into how JQ plays to a JQ player whose been on JQ since beta

As a former SBI player since beta (prior to the week before free server transfers ended), I know exactly how you guys played. It was the running joke in tier 1. You guys never went after SoS and were content to constantly push SBI to try and secure a 2nd place position. This happened week after week. It got to the point that we could never go after SoS because as soon as we pushed against them or SoS pushed against us there was good old JQ running in for scraps.

I love how JQ constantly brags about how long they stayed in tier 1 when they only managed to hit first place a few times prior to the mass influx of players.

Anyway, ranting done. It’s just funny that anyone from JQ would ever complain about a 2v1 situation.

What server did you transfer to? Just curious.

Not sure about that whole ‘running joke’ thing. JQ had a ton of respect for SBI and the fights with SBI were more fun than having SoS 50 man zerg us to death. All the former SBI members I know understood the game back then, and tried to knock JQ to third whenever they could. I’d have thought you guys were weak if you didn’t attack us too.

I mean, you sound like you don’t like being attacked and take it kinda personal. It’s WvW bro. We’re supposed to attack you! You are like the only SBI player I know who is mad that we fought SBI harder than SoS. We had to fight you guys harder because you were harder to fight.

You can put that grudge down now. Your back must be killing you carrying around all that weight…

coronbale.3894:

Ahh, the old 2v1. Yes, we 2v1d you, but what the hell did you expect, you gave no one any choice! You came out of the shoot, aggressive as hell, and rapidly ran from SOS to JQ as fast as your little red is dead legs could carry you hitting them as hard as you can. Half the time we had to keep constant eyes on you to avoid losing a tower to you.

Most of your commanders wrack da disaprin, and act like you should be able to obliterate both of your competitors simultaneously to be #1. If that were the case, we would be in the HoD days of TA. The new facts are this, NO SERVER can attain first place by simultaneously owning second and third severs. Not anymore.

We don’t win week after week because we own the other two servers, we win week after week (well not the week before last, GG again JQ )because we play smarter, we play more coordinated, and we have a plan. If were hitting you, its part of a bigger strategy.

When you hit an enemy, its like some rabid dog biting anything that gets close to it. That’s not strategy, that’s a disease. Anytime you feel like bringing that to the table, well put you down.

Simple as that.

You win because you have numbers and coverage and never run in groups smaller than 20.

Kudos.

Wotah.2975:

hex.3218:

Xirin.8593:

Renny.6571:

hex.3218:

(it has to be a guy because women don’t do dumb things like this).

um. wat.

lmfao

They may do other dumb things, but this definitely has guy stupid stink all over it.

And he knows guy stupid stink!

It’s okay! he’s with me folks! Don’t ban him!

Can a Golem stop an invasion? Can a Golem defeat a zerg?

Who would win… 8 Golems vs 8 Balistas… even odds, no interference, Golems start 2 seconds away.

Golems are very powerful in VERY specific circumstances when used efficiently. I’ve seen a 10 Golem charge get burned because of 1 bad port. I’ve seen 20 and 30 Golem rushes fail due to bad timing/ overwhelming enemy siege.

They are fine. If they were the end all, be all of WvW, we’d see more use of them.

No random match ups? Hahahahahahaha. Anet lies again. Just like glicko reset, this will never happen. Stuck with SoR for life!

Love you BG!

Go tell guru. Right?

I don’t feel bad for Blackgate. They’re a great server and fight hard as nails. If they get rolled due to a population gap, how does that in any way reflect on them? It’s not like they’ll ever drop below T2. Heck, they’ll be in T1 for another few weeks, and I bet the make a much better showing of it than people are assuming.

If you feel bad for Blackgate in any way shape or form, go log in right now and fight them. They’ll mash up your face, and then you won’t feel bad for them at all. They can handle this.

This thread has more wah wah than a Jimi Hendrix concert!

Was anyone there for the beautiful EB bash last night at lowland’s keep? How can anyone in their right mind whine about anything after that! So much fun. I was on a lowbie guard and STILL got buckets.

pot.6805:

So this is like the 16th time the trolls predicted BG was dead and imploding and the 16th time they were wrong.

This is the 5th time BG has played possum and the 5th time some idiots fell for it.

With Easter and SAB, it’s the perfect time to push. I warned everyone but they didn’t listen. I’m hoping everyone gets bored with MarioKart before this gets way out of hand. BG must have some very very committed players, and disciplined too.

I’m going to stick my neck out here and predict a BG win. My gut tells me that with the interest in the ‘WvW Update’ waning, our numbers are going to drop this week. Doesn’t say much for the WvW update when 1990 can come in and be more interesting than a whole new WvW rank system.

That being said, I did have a lot of fun yesterday (Easter) fighting for my life against BG. I finally got a drop higher than yellow. Nothing special, but better than 6 months of nothing but junk!

Le Rooster.8715:

Cover Girl.2580:

Le Rooster.8715:

Looks like Jade Quarry and SBI have the blues this week.

love this kids chest thumping. love it.

Sorry i didn’t intend to brag, it’s just that i saw a good opportunity to make a pun and i took it. Truth be told in a couple of hours all that is blue will soon be green it’s just he nature WvW, a constant sea-saw (pun intended).

Just as you say, it is because of the see saw nature of WvW that (generally speaking) posting screenies of blowouts, unicolor maps, or any sort of score update implying total domination is considered being a gloat.

Not that you were, but you can certainly see how posting that screen shot as an unbiased ‘score update’ might turn a few stomachs sour.

Oh and to the other people discussing holidays: JQ won during New Years holidays. SoS won during Christmas holidays. No frigging way New Years caused a greater population drop than Christmas, even in Australia (wow, when I heard that excuse I nearly choked! lol).

A win is a win. SoS won legit during Christmas week. JQ won legit during New Years. Can’t say one is legit and one is not. The end.

kidbs.8920:

hex.3218:

dwahvel.7356:

wish.3102:

All of SORs WvW community should move to JQ to fill in our NA afternoon/night time coverage gap, or team up with kaineng somehow to create a third tier 1 server.

Never gonna happen. All the hardcore wvw guilds are staying, only way I see a third tier 1 server would be transfers coming to SoR.

Or to Kaening.

SoR already has a larger WvW population than Kaineng. It would make more sense for Kaineng to move here. Kaineng also has more large guilds so it would be easier for them to coordinate moves than the guilds on SoR.

Also @Titan, you are sorely mistaken if you think that KN is stronger than SoR. You’re playing in tier 1 on a week where SoR is pretty much taking a break and having fun goofing off (heck we were running a full zerg of all necros and mesmers for fun last night, over half of them were lowbies). I feel confident when I say that pound per pound SoR has the strongest players.

If you had watched the numbers on prior weekends, SoR is very competitive. We only drop due to coverage issues. We have some of the best commanders in the game and a very unified front.

Naw… Kaineng is a better landing spot. They have WM. The gaps are easier to fill there. Everyone… stack on kaineng!

foxyroxylee.1708:

If there was no PPT (score board) GW2 would be like Daoc revamp… they dont care bout whos in the lead. they just want to fight

I’m starting to come around to the notion of a scoreless WvW. The only problem is the numbers would drop because this ain’t DAOC by a longshot…

This is not the truth. There are zergs in T1. There are also small squads, solos, roamers, killers, contract teams, specialized build groups, dance parties, golem rushes, siege battles, underwater warfare, bribery, trickery, feints and counter attacks, three way battles…

In short everything.

Remember folks, you have a mind of your own. If you want to join us on T1, JQ would love to have you and I would love to personally show you how wrong this guy is.

Jonathan.1580:

covenn.7165:

Jonathan.1580:

I mean kitten double 3 days straight and SoR barely ahead as of yesterday and still they think theyre good? ya’ll so funny =) just point at the score thats all you need but dont say anyhting about ya’lls wvw is as good as ours

Are you complaining about being double teamed? We get double teamed too. All night, every night, JQ and BG attacking us at the same time from opposite sides of the map. Imagine that…..

Also, you confuse points with ability like many people. The score doesn’t mean jack when it comes to your ability to fight. You don’t get points for killing people.

huh your like the King of taking what ppl say out of context master Covenn, I never complained about being double teamed..its like a compliment isnt it? To be double teamed means to be feared. and surely your not going to imply that forces being = that either JQ or SoR can match our best commanders on the field?

IF I had a wish that could come true it would be for the leaders of all 3 realms to agree to an EB 3 way TOURNEY with rules mind you.

Each server puts up 1000 gold.
3 teams 50+ each led by each realms chosen commander
All 3 running the map for position until one engages the other
No interference. Once two teams have engaged the other must pull off and reset at WP
First team to lose to both servers or twice to same realm is out.
After that its best 2 out of 3 engagements for the remaining two realms

Winner takes all! Losing realms commanders must send alts to the victors LA named after their char and server and announce they are there to pay the debt of 1000 g.

just a rough idea but imagine the FUN! no PPT.. no pop BS no alliances.. just hard hitting fun

ah to dream

Neither JQ nor SoR can match your commanders on the field…

Wait, seriously? How could anyone even claim to know that! And why would anyone even SAY that?

I’ve worked with at least 100 different commanders since the days of super secret double blind beta. Some good, some bad. Some horrible. 5 or 6 truly superior commanders that could almost will things to happen. Drop the whole 30 v 40 because that happens daily. I’m talking about things where my head would start spinning and enemies melted when there was nothing there but a handful of players and a half built arrow cart.

GREAT commanders. EXCEPTIONAL commanders.

None of them were from BG.

Because I don’t play on BG.

You just don’t know the commanders on JQ or SoR and are using your selective sample of experiences to back up an unquantifiable claim. Even sPvP couldn’t settle it fairly. GvG couldn’t settle it and neither would this fantasy EB tourney.

If BG’s commanders are that good, live stream it and send us all the link so we can see for ourselves.

Other than that, this is just hot air. I’d never come here and claim any commander is better than another, let alone a whole server magically has all the good commanders, and the rest are no match. I’m going to hazard a guess and say it’s an equal distribution per capita.

Azure Prower.8701:

Wotah.2975:

Vodka.3958:

ChocPudding.6128:

Vodka.3958:

Whichever server it is, I’m kitten sure they can both beat SoR any day of the week :P

I don’t think so. SoR is very different now. Their NA force is very scary. It is likely to be on par with JQ’s NA! Can’t wait and see

Doubt it. They only got such a high rating because they PvDoored an empty server for 2 weeks. Also that server wouldn’t be so empty if the majority didn’t merge into the winning team.

This is great! “The winning team”, thanks for that. We’ve one so very many over the weeks we’ve been in T1.

They’re talking about SoR.

They were implying that they merged with JQ the ‘winning team’.

Churchill.8714:

hex.3218:

Of couse, for the actual troll… Mission Accomplished. I know you read these forums. Enjoy this, the high point of your entire life: griefing in a video game. I know when I was a boy, that’s the mountain I set out to climb. Nothing for you in life will ever feel better than this. Ever. Enjoy your week of glory. The real world will crush you like a maggot once you get out there.

Doesn’t that also imply that for yourself, nothing has ever felt so good. Ipso facto, you miss it (the griefing)? Does this also imply that the real world has crushed you?

Huh? I’m not sure I follow. I was not serious when I said that’s what I set out to do… it was sarcasm.

Wow.

If snark were a measure of skill, we’d have some pretty tough players in this thread. Do any of you honestly think anyone is going to suddenly change their mind, or that some neutral party will be like “Hey, that guy with the clever insults is awesome! I’ll join his guild!”

I have respect for some of the posters involved, but not for any cheap words traded on here. We all know who would win that GvG, but don’t ever expect the lesser of the two to admit it. Very few guilds would admit they’d lose a fight.

Oddly, the guilds that can admit they’d lose a fight are the ones that scare me the most in game…

Everyone had the same opportunity to recruit the guilds we got. Did SoS send guilds to BG or SoR in the interest of the game?

Neither did we.

Same rules for everyone. Should have done more and better recruiting instead of wasting time on here blaming other people’s success for your failures.

CDS,
(please read the whole thing before responding)

Here’s your ‘extra fighters’ up in the back (see attached). He probably saw them and assumed they were in on it because a few folks are fighting right near them. In the heat of the battle, when two folks show up where they weren’t before (and you can watch the vid, those two were not there earlier), it could seem like you had extras.

Add to the fact that there’s been a lot of tension between the two servers recently, especially on GvG issues, and you can see how Noodles might have made that mistake.

I am not an EMP defender. I can attest for certain that nowhere in that video does CDS have any extra players. The highest I count is 14. I’ve gone through the whole thing and it was a fair fight. They might not have been ready, but they saw you coming and reacted, so looks up and up to me.

TO ALL:

We’re all just players. Had we started on different servers, maybe we’d be on the same team. No one is more kitten than anyone else. It’s all imagined ‘server x is my enemy’ stuff. It’s roleplay that some of us forget to turn off when it goes a little to far.

Everyone take deep breath, get your heads on straight and get back to enjoying the competition instead of playing “Angry Words With Friends”.

You’re all old enough to act like civilized people. In the end, no one will remember this in a year anyways, so why let it crank you off now?

Go for a walk, or take a day to work in the local homeless shelter, and then come back and get over your 1st world problems.

That means everyone.

Obsidian.1328:

This may sound crass, but can Cuddlestrike simply post the score update and not use it as an excuse for an Asuran runway expo? It reminds me of Toddlers and Tiara’s and it’s starting to make me sick.

I think this post screams out for MORE CUTE ASURA PICS!!!!

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Shoot. I don’t have any of those.

Help? Anyone got a huge store of Asura pics to post for this guy, STAT???

urzen.7096:

pot.6805:

urzen.7096:

dragon.8625:

I totally understand SoR’s position this week, just head hunting to try to stay in Tier 1, even though they don’t belong here, as their score keeps showing they just don’t have the coverage to compete. I would think that if they where really double teaming BG because a few guilds on our server ran their mouth, that they would negotiate a place in second. Unfortunately not the case, so who knows what is really happening behind the scenes. But there you go, SoR 0 ppt, 11pm server time.

I read all the bad talk about BeastGate, and I am not going to respond to it, I just want to point out that we took on the #1 server in north america, we are fighting off their pet dogs at the same time and we still hold a strong second position in Tier 1, good job to everybody on BG that is spending so many hours every day in WvW to make the difference, and to all of our commanders out there, and all of our amazing WvW guilds that fight regardless of what anybody says.

Can’t wait until we push SoR into the tier they belong in and we match up with Kaineng again. I’ve been missing me some War Machine fights.

We belong here because their is no other world that can compete with us over time besides JQ (and BG for the moment). If someone else moves up, we will be solid in T2 and someone above us will fall and we’ll be right back in T1 again. Afaik there are only two consistent servers, JQ and SOR. We are the only who have have not fallen below T2 since our rise. Maybe thats due to some sort of loyalty characteristic.

If history repeats, SOR will eventually get some more coverage, beat BG, and BG bandwagoners will fall off causing them to fall down again. Much like SOS, IOJ and others.

What do you mean “for the moment” when mentioning BG? You forgot BG in your list of consistent servers, we’ve already survived fall from T1 before. We’ve never fallen more then one ranking spot in how many months? We dust the dirt off our shoulder and keep it moving.

If we were going to implode, don’t you think it would have happened already?

Youre right, you did only drop to 4th. I was thinking of HOD I think. Make that 3 consistent servers then. Point being SOR deserves third. And we dont mind proving it in t2 again. Whoever takes our place in t1 will have the same problems, implode, and we’ll be right back in it.

Whoever comes into 3rd would need some serious reenforcements to do any better than SoR, I agree. But you never know what could happen. SoS NEVER would have thought they’d have a mass exodus with transfers costing money. BG didn’t expect to get that huge boost either.

Either way, at some point, one of the servers from 3 to 5 will fold and their guilds will end up either on BG to get them on top or on SoR/Kaening to solidify a permanent 2nd and 3rd place contender.

Heck, the March update might turn any server out there into a waking giant. If even 15% of a server’s PvE population starts to WvW on a regular basis, there would be a huge shift.

Even more likely, March 26th comes and goes with only a faint wimper and people jump to new games, sending one if not all of the top servers down to lower tiers.

If we’ve learned on thing so far it’s to expect the oppositve of what seems likely.

Well… this explains a few things that have happened to me recently.

I don’t think anyone is blaming SoR, BG, CHOO or AGG for this guy’s action (it has to be a guy because women don’t do dumb things like this).

Most of us on JQ have nothing but respect for what BG did over the past 3 days. If anyone says any different, they aren’t really part of the community that I hear talking and see posting on our forums.

Win or lose, we get to do it all again next week and now we KNOW BG can push us. That’s going to make this fun as hello.

The lead has gone back and forth. Will it go back again? Or is JQ serious this time? Is Blackgate getting tired? Is SoR poised to break out? Who’s dog is that?

All of these questions and more will be ignored in this week’s episode of… The Something Something Stuff Words Collection!

GL all you battle hardened meanies.

“If JQ didn’t have such good SEA/Asian guilds…”

If fish choked on water, they’d be bad swimmers.

Birds are lucky they have wings. Let’s see them fly without those wings, huh? They are horrible at flying, stupid birds. We fly better than them on the ground. That’s where the flying is really hard.

Wotah.2975:

So the forum is going up and down for you too Hex? :P

Worst.Forum.Ever

Even buggier than Enjin.

covenn.7165:

Sanxxx.5126:

…and the best bit is the OP probably believes it all

Nah it was sarcasm that was generated by the belief that one should stress about that which they cannot control.

Nah it was sarcasm generated by the belief that one should not keep moving the target for the measure of success.

Stealth is fine.

I’ve never lost a fight due to stealth.

I’ve never heard of a stealth build soloing 4 people. Never heard of. Ever. I’d need to see some video evidence of this.

I DO NOT play a stealth build.

Nothing like trying to be poetic and compare yourself to ancient warriors…

The Spartans would have lost because a mesmer would just port the Persians over them.

The whole idea is just silly.

Stand still, spam 1 skill, port with f1. Such derring-do! You’re winning. You’re winning with a legitimate tactic. Let’s not glorify hedgehogs and armadillos of curring up in a ball to save their hides from predators…

Smart? Yes. Works? Yes. Legit? Yes. Brave???? Hardly.

Wakehaven.1806:

Nuked.2360:

Naytron.7831:

I’m sorry but what’s with all these Jade Quarry drama being included in our matchup thread? Please take it somewhere else. A little advice to Jade Quarry… if you want to improve as a server, get Army of Shepherds [AoS] out of your server already, simple.

All I’ll say is we don’t even actively post on the forums me being the only person who does. I’m sorry if you have an axe to grind here but I have hardly played in the past two months but apparently there is quite the bad blood that I didn’t know of. But honestly I’m literally the only person from AoS who has commented on this thread and it was the last page or so. That being said I’m pretty sure all I’ve done is work my kitten off to keep JQ alive and kicking.

To WARD/Aco while I may be mad about losing two classy NA guilds but I wish you guys the best of luck and hope to see you on the BL’s soonish

You seriously need to stop being the “voice” of JQ as do many in your guild. Somehow this tread has been invaded by JQ. This is DB’s week to get submitted and crushed by the hand of the two powerful forces of SoR and BG. Next week you get your turn again.

Stei has never claimed to be the voice of JQ.

That’s ME you’re thinking of.

I am the voice of JQ and JQ says “You’re out!”

Covenn,

Give us a specific metric to measure who is best. We will accept any. Just give us one and stick to it.