Guild Wars 2

some people spend money to buy gems to convert them into gold for legendary weapons, so they can get them faster, before hot that was also part of anet revenue.
end game was always legendary items or weapons before hot, going for legendary items makes you continue play the game and do stuff over and over again because you are working towards your goal of getting legendary weapon, this was the case before hot , here is the problem:
legendary armor is only available to raiders and no one else, effectively killing end game for many players who do not raid, do not forget most veteran players already have legendary weapons, so next step is legendary armor as end game for them, some might go for second set of legendary weapons, but majority wanted armor but anet destroyed their end game by making it available to raiders only.
i am not saying all the revenue is coming from legendary items but part of it comes from it.

second expansion as soon as possible which means q3 or q4 2017 in my opinion.
gw2 still doing fine and things will get better with LW/LS back next update.
wildstar goodby.
blade and soul doing much better than gw2 for now but i think the revenue will drop.

you see very few people say " hey i wasted my time watching a very good movie. star wars, avengers, mad max ect"
the difference between games and movies are the fact that games have interactive story where you make your own character and go through story and make decisions(( despite the fact that it is illusion of choice but it is still fun)).
that is why i loved gw2 pre-hot with 40 episode of living story, i bought gw2 2000 gem card every single month which 24 euro and almost twice as much as subscription fee but after hot i stoped buying them.
if you look at ncsoft financial reports gw2 was doing good, it was doing fine, but after hot, we should wait and see.

Kyzonu.7504:

saye.9304:

EphemeralWallaby.7643:

To everyone who has any issues with what they got out of their HoT investment:

How many hours of entertainment does it require for y’all to feel you’ve got your money’s worth out of a MMO expansion? How many hours have y’all played HoT?

If the answer to the first question is realistic, and the answer to the second question is larger than the first question, I hate to break it to you but y’all got your money’s worth.

~EW

what a stupid question, the right question is " did you have fun playing hot??"
i did not for most part, i hated xp grind and mp, i hated specialization grind, i hated those annoying mini games, i hated short story,i hated lack of new legendary weapons because i still run with kudzu on my male norn which look ridiculous and other LBs look even worser, i was hoping for new long bow legendary but guess what? its no where to be seen yet.
yeah for 50$ hot surely made me hate a lot of things in a game i used to love.

if you hated everything about the expansion, why did you buy it?
next time, instead of throwing your money on pre-orders for a product you know nothing about, wait until the reviews are out (not IGN bull***, see videos from GW2 youtubers) and decide for yourself if you want to buy it.

i for one didn’t play much of the HOT maps, because my play time is mostly during dead-hours and i can’t do anything alone, but i’m still enjoying a lot of the features the expansion brought to the core game like masteries and elite specs.

you know the famous saying:
“if you fool me once shame on you but if you fool me twice shame on me”
i wont pre-order the next expansion at all, i might buy it 2-3 weeks after lunch when i saw at least 3 reviews from different people and watched game play videos.
i never cared about IGN reviews to begin with.

EphemeralWallaby.7643:

To everyone who has any issues with what they got out of their HoT investment:

How many hours of entertainment does it require for y’all to feel you’ve got your money’s worth out of a MMO expansion? How many hours have y’all played HoT?

If the answer to the first question is realistic, and the answer to the second question is larger than the first question, I hate to break it to you but y’all got your money’s worth.

~EW

what a stupid question, the right question is " did you have fun playing hot??"
i did not for most part, i hated xp grind and mp, i hated specialization grind, i hated those annoying mini games, i hated short story,i hated lack of new legendary weapons because i still run with kudzu on my male norn which look ridiculous and other LBs look even worser, i was hoping for new long bow legendary but guess what? its no where to be seen yet.
yeah for 50$ hot surely made me hate a lot of things in a game i used to love.

so far most people said “no or it depends” few people said yes.
for me it depends.

but in one of the guild chats both lead writers( boby and leah i think) said raids will have side and non important story and they even said they know there are many people who love story and lore but they are not raider., few months after it turns out raid contains one of the major story lines from gw1, were they lying?!

Q1 and Q2 2016 ncsoft financial reports are the only answers to op’s question, if they look good then raid worked, if it looks not good or it shows drop in profit then it is better for anet to continue developing LS seasons and update fractals, also add SAB as mini game, for pve part.
we should wait and see what is gonna happen to wvw.
for pvp current state is good enough with more class balance.

this is old news, what is actually very interesting is Q1 2016 ncsoft report, can not wait to see that one.

Ridley.3691:

Unfortunatly a couple of months after launch the game really wasn’t bringing in enough money so they had to completely change directions, and with HOTs it’s being shown even more.

you have issue reading ncsoft’s financial report?? pre-hot it was looking good, but after hot things are not looking good, q1 2016 report will be very interesting, i suggest you learn how to read it.

hi.
i am looking for casual pvp guild for pvp leagues. i play pvp mostly during pvp league and i will represent the guild during the pvp seasons.
my pvp rank is 80.
my main is dps ranger.
i also have mesmer and warrior

Burtnik.5218:

Celtic Lady.3729:

There seemed to be a lot of people that were disappointed that they’d sprung for the pre-purchase and I don’t think a lot of the people that pre-purchased HoT will do so again. I think a good portion of them are going to take a wait and see approach, which means numbers for a second expansion could very possibly be even more dissatisfying than HoT’s numbers.

And it doesn’t surprise me that their idea of F2Pers buying the expansion didn’t play out as well as they thought it would. When you compare core Tyria’s content for free to HoT’s tiny content for money along with the grindy system, yeah, don’t know why they’d buy it. lol

I bought expansion for revenant which is full of bugs and many unviable skills.. Everything is a sad joke about this xpac.

4 small grind maps
Pvp “balance”
Wvw map that noone want to play on – thats how awful it is.
Basically no new skins to earn in game -meanwhile since launch gemstore was flooded with many of them
Only 3 legendaries.
Rushes story with no logic whatsoever
Annoying as kitten “adventures” (srsly.. who came up with that one?)
Fail raids that are dps check
A lot of promised stuff was not released to this day (fractal legendary backpiece as example).
Tons.. tons of bugs. They are everywhere.

Yeah, based on that i definitely wont bother with any future “xpac” (read as mini dlc) if they dont fix that mess first. Maybe they finally wake up and fix this kitten. And if not..then goodluck in future.

specially short story..story was always one of the most strongest aspect of gw universe and in my opinion story of gw2 is above average, but instead of focusing on better story telling which is longer and more detailed they went with mini games and raiding.
steam is full of such mini games and as matter of fact, many of them are better or same and you can buy them for 1$ or max 5$ or ton of them for 25$-30$ during steam sale.
i did not pay 50$ to get bunch of mini games, short story and raiding for game that advertised itself as non traditional and non raiding game.. after i spend over 3k hours into this game for last 3 years now it is changing direction towards bs.
and ncsoft numbers are the best proof that i am not alone.. as every one can see HOT did not sell as well as anet was hoping for.
basically q4 2015 anet made 31million$ with hot and gem sells, meaning around 300 to 400k player bought hot, that is shame and disappointment considering the core game so far according to anet itself sold 5 million copies(during of the pax, google the source yourself) , so less than 10% continued buying the game, such shame.

what is even more interesting is q1 2016 report, because some of the people who bought hot was not happy with it, things like xp grind, overall difficulty and raiding and top of all short story ( so some of them stop buying gem card and i am one of them) not just gw2 expansion did not sell as well as anet/ncsoft hoping for but even after there were angry people over the change of direction of the game so q1 2016 will be very interesting to see.

WILDSTAR is still in dire condition..boost in sales from f2p conversion is not really good and if it falls again considering numbers are already low it might not survive to see 2017.

play swtor if you want such stuff.
i buy gw2 gem card every month and use it to buy mostly outfit/armor or if i want to craft legendary i will keep them to help me craft one, IT IS NOT ABOUT MONEY. it is about tension free and not being under pressure that you must spend money to remove limitations, IT IS ABOUT SPEND YOUR MONEY ON WHAT YOU WANT.

Maybe.7180:

saye.9304:

then you are rare, because all ladies i have seen from my guild or streamers play female, i have never seen female gamer play male character, you are the first one lol.

Ohh, I used to get so angry when someone was asking me if I am a lesbian because I play a male character >_< I mean… where’s the god kitten logic in saying that if a guy is playing a female character, he’s probably gay and if a woman is playing a male, she’s definately a lesbian? Pretty much what Aerial said few posts above is right. If I get to choose who I need to watch 3-4 hours a day, surely I’ll prefer a handsome male, because I have my own breasts and stuff to look at for my whole life, that’s boring.

Speaking of sylvari – I would love female sylvari, but they always look so… happy, it stresses me out. I made a female sylvari revenant, used up my last hair change kit and made her a full exotic set, but now I really want do delete her, because she’s always smiling, even if she’s talking serious or people are dying. I can’t stand that! Maybe I’m just too negative, idk

yeah you are right you are too negative. by no means i said you are lesbian how did you even come up with that?? i only said me and never said in general that most of female i saw play female toons and by no means i said or meant they are lesbian i also said most of my toons are male is that make me gay?? some logic is require here.
and it is color full a beautiful game, that is why i am playing it, female sylvari look beautiful too. you want to play ugly game full of blood. play “Hatred” on steam lol.

Maybe.7180:

I am human female IRL, but my main (and most loved character) is a human male. I was inspired by one of my favorite books where protagonist was a male necromancer. I like everything about him – the way he looks and how the story and voice acting (thank you so much, Nolan North! I love you!) fits him just purrfectly.

Across all female characters I like my norn most of all, as she is very much like me, I guess. But I also have three human females, I must admit. They have nice haircuts and some mix-and-match sets actually look good on them.

then you are rare, because all ladies i have seen from my guild or streamers play female, i have never seen female gamer play male character, you are the first one lol.
as for me beauty of the character is important, in all mmos i used to play, i played as male except for ESO and GW2, because male toons in those 2 are ugly.
for gw2 i fell in love with female sylvari voice( jennifer hale is an awesome voice actress and really great voice) also there are some cute faces for female sylvari, hence my main is female sylvari

Gaile Gray.6029:

World War III.3869:

Not 100%, but sometimes I just wish bad bad things regarding some people in games.

So a guy is in LA spamming Star Wars spoilers. Nice.

PS: I’ve seen it already but C’MON!

Report it. Please!!

lady gray you do not play pvp do you??
because just last night some one who was losing got angry and disrespected me and put me on block…well naturally i got angry too and ask people in map chat to tell him censored..anyways i got reported and so did he..the situation at the moment is worser than star wars issue specially in pvp..you might want to pay attention to pvp rather than star wars stuff which is not related to gw2 what so ever.

i agree with op.
raid notification
pvp league notification
and the pro-pve(ESL) notification
ok it is good that anet informs you about events and content of the game BUT you should be able to remove it whenever you want. this is the only game that force fully(beside some 3rd class asian games) advertise their game’s events.
IT IS ANNOYING

poor warriors.
predictable class in pvp specially top dogs wont pick it up for pvp you can argue it is basically a pve(specially it was great class for dungeons runs) , maybe before h.o.t i would agree with you but now most of classes are good in pve maybe except thief in raids.
basically it is least interesting class to play.

well we have to wait and see in 2016 whether this idea was good or not because it will be in ncsoft financial report if ncsoft did not removed anet due to anet taking over the publishing itself.

TheFrighteningFrenchFry.3275:

saye.9304:

as matter of fact many of the games which released as raiding game had to back off from it and added easy mode to their raiding yet alone gw2 which was advertised as non traditional game and first expansion brought traditional raiding similar to wow.
wild star had to remove/change almost all of their hard core stuff and go f2p just to survive and that game released as raiding game.
rift now has easy mode raiding while the signature feature of the game was hard core raiding but trion backed off from it and rift added easy mode.
wow added easy LFR long time ago.
these are games i played and i saw they have become much more casual friendly.
what made anet think this is good idea??

Think of gw2 raids as the easy mode raids. Gw2 raids are significantly easier than WoW raids. So instead of there not being an easy mode in gw2, think of it as there not being a hard mode. As for the whole wildstar having to go F2P cause it focused on raids, gw2 is NOT just focusing on raids. In addition, just because wildstar went F2P does NOT mean it was because the game was focused on raids.

so gw2 raiding is harder than wow LFR i mean do you know if you die in easy wow raiding you will receive a buff that makes you stronger so you are telling me gw2 raiding is even easier?? you noticed i said wow LFR not wow mythic version.
wild star 40 man raid was one of the biggest mistake carbine made along with Attunement process, these were 2 major reasons along with some minor problem..WS removed or changed all that so yes WS failure was highly because of raiding.
gw2 raids are not easy for most casual players but difficulty is subjective, for raider gw2 raids might be easy for casual player who bought non traditional non raiding game more than 3 years ago it is difficult hence you see actually number of threads on the forum against raiding.
all those games added an actual easy mode where you can easily pug it i do not think gw2 raids are that easy to pug or they reduced the difficulty significantly all together.
anyways like i said these games were targeting raiders from lunch day and yet again they had to go much more casual friendly while gw2 lunched as casual game changed direction toward traditional raiding.
we have to wait for ncsoft financial report specially in 2016 to see whether the raiding was good idea or not.

as matter of fact many of the games which released as raiding game had to back off from it and added easy mode to their raiding yet alone gw2 which was advertised as non traditional game and first expansion brought traditional raiding similar to wow.
wild star had to remove/change almost all of their hard core stuff and go f2p just to survive and that game released as raiding game.
rift now has easy mode raiding while the signature feature of the game was hard core raiding but trion backed off from it and rift added easy mode.
wow added easy LFR long time ago.
these are games i played and i saw they have become much more casual friendly.
what made anet think this is good idea??

Thaddeus.4891:

rainisword.7860:

Your last criticism isnt very good because theres no proof that the current “growing” playerbase can’t sustain itself. Ever since this game was released people have been very vocal about wanting more difficult content. Anet gave us this and they specifically said that its meant to be very very challenging. It is.

Raids in their current state can be completed by anyone who is committed enough. I used to think VG was hard and now I think of it as trash basically. Its still easy to wipe but the level of mechanics and dps necessary to kill it is far less than something demanding like sabetha or gorseval.

The raiding community has just started as well. Give it time to grow. You’re saying it can’t sustain and raids were just released a week ago. Maybe it can’t sustain, maybe it can. Give it a few months, even wait until the next wing it released.

Pugging VG isn’t even an uncommon practice now. The community has continually gotten more skilled as this game has been developed and released successively more difficult content.

The point is, you are basically asking for an “LFR” difficulty for raids after only a week and thats a very premature criticism to make.

Just to be clear. I don’t want to do easier difficulty raid myself. If anything I would want a harder difficulty for raids.

My point, and it’s the same point since they announced challenging group content, even before raid were announced. It need to have different level of difficulty because there is such a wide variance in the level of skill of the player base. For some people the current raid have the right amount of difficulty, for other it’s too hard and for other it’s too easy.

Now, you are right I don’t know if raid will be able to sustain themselves. I have no idea and nobody does. But the goal would be to make the content accessible to the most people possible to make sure that the content can sustain itself.

PvP League range from Amber league for noobs to Legendary league for hardcore PvP players. As long as you like playing PvP you gonna have a place in that content and you will be able to enjoy it. Casual like Hardcore, unskilled killed skilled, Noobs like Veteran, they will have find a place in those league with a content that fit their needs.

Raid on the other end are for a portion of the community that love instanced PvE. I don’t know what the size of it. Maybe it will be huge and there will be no problem. But if raid are easy enough that a good portion of the community can participate, the most hardcore players won’t find it enough challenging.

Raid are 2 weeks old, not 1. And it doesn’t matter anyway, because like I said it was revelant before they even announced raid.

gw2 biggest feature was its access ability for example hard cores players were able to make legendary weapon in 3 months(gold farming stuff) but for me it took 2 years to craft one legendary weapon..i really did not mind because at the end every one had chance to go through game’s content and get stuff they want.
similar example that you gave is pvp league…obviously hard core pre made(teams) will get to higher tiers and they will make legendary back piece faster than others for some it might take much longer but at the end they all have shot at it.
unlike legendary armor and raiding which is exclusively made for certain pve players hard core or what ever
can wvw player get it?? no
can pvp player get it?? no
can non raider pve player get it?? no

ZudetGambeous.9573:

I think the biggest issue is that there is no other content to play. The expansion didn’t add in any real content.

We got 1/5th of a personal story that takes 3-4 hours to finish. We got 4 meta events that take 100+ people to clear, and we got 1 raid that takes 10 people to clear. We got no real solo content and no small group content. That means once you finish the PS your only other long term option is to raid.

The second problem is that there has been no challenging content in this game since launch. People haven’t had to increase their skill as the game progressed. In WoW the game gets harder and harder as you progress, leading you into dungeons, then hard mode dungeons, then story mode raids, then hard mode raids. You steadily increase your gear and skill so by the time you step into a raid you are at least mostly prepared to tackle it. In GW2 you go from 1-shotting bunnies with auto attack in the open world, to raids. The current raid is not hard. It took all of 2 days for the best guilds to beat it. Compare that to the 3+ weeks it takes the best guilds in WoW to beat the hardest raids.

The GW2 raid is currently the difficulty of most MMO’s hard mode dungeons. People just aren’t used to having to actually pay attention and use their skills yet. This first wing will be easily puggable once people figure out that they can dodge and have more than 1 skill.

so basically it is not hard core enough for hard core players and it is not casual enough for casuals..it is something in between which is not good in my opinion.
after 2 days all those hard core will whine about lack of content and casual are still complaining about difficulty.
at least the core world was very casual friendly and as matter of fact mmorpg.com listed gw2 as number 1 casual mmo,that is how gw2 found certain player base
now the hard core raiders will go for wow mythic raiding or rift or wild star while casual player base which formed during last 3 years are complaining about difficulty and time consuming raiding.

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

Trixie.7614:

saye.9304:

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

i did not buy raiding game …

Yes you did. You bought such a game with HoT. They announced long before release that raids would be added and that said raids would have unique rewards that are unobtainable anywhere else.

So why are you whining now? Did you just preorder HoT before any content was known? That’s your fault. You could preorder as late as some hours before release.

You don’t go to any car dealer, “pre-order” next years convertible without getting any information on it and then rage around like “I thought it would get from 0 to 200mp/h in 2 seconds, you betrayed me…”

Seriously, do you guys even read what you write?

the raiding with full info announced last, few weeks before the lunch…not including data mining and speculations.
wait a minute you are saying you do not know when Anet constantly advertising non traditional mmo.
interesting how fanboy defending this at least ask anet to give you some money or something because if you defend them on your own then get life.
they lied they added traditional stuff to the game.
you read what you write before defending a company that advertised their game as non raiding non traditional game for 3 years and few weeks before the lunch suddenly announce raiding is coming.

Please never edit your post. It’s hilarious.

i wont because anet said there will be challenging content never directly and officially said it is raiding with legendary armor.
as matter of fact people who were asking is expansion worth the price they were asking what is this challenging stuff exactly even wooden potato had video about it just soon after pre order announcement and asking what is this challenging content..rest was speculation and no official announcement.
now that person saying anet announced raiding months before with detail..where is the source??

The source? Here:
http://dulfy.net/2015/08/29/gw2-pax-prime-challenging-content-livestream-notes/
Announced on the same day that they announced the F2P-Model, at Pax East. So where exactly is your point?

omg do you have reading issue,you can not read dates.
first you said months before release now you link announcement made few weeks before release.
really?? you can not read dates?? you do have issue with numbers READ THE DATE OF ANNOUNCEMENT.
never say months before release again because that is lie.

Maybe you should read my post again? Never said anything about months, that was you. I only wrote they announced it “long before release” – a month before release counts as long before, at least in my book. So maybe just maybe, don’t throw arround insults about reading issues while having those issues yourself

long before in your book is one month??
then 6months is like years to you and years is like centuries to you…hmmm that explain you now i get it..you are good man be happy

Yup, one month before release is long if I can still “pre-order” 6 to 12 hours before release. The fact that they announced it almost 2 months before release gave people more than enough time to contact ANet so as to cancel any existing pre-order if they wanted to.

so basically you telling people what i said in my very first post..i said i will never pre-order again and now you are saying do it do not pre -order or cancel it.
that is point why anet went toward traditional gameplay while for the past 3 years game was non traditional game and based on ncsoft financial report gw2 was doing fine..why the sudden change??
and you basically saying what i said…do not pre order..it is just that you think you are defending anet by saying do not pre order anymore well that hurts anet sells.
anet lost trust of some of their customer base..how big or small is that we should wait and see.

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

Trixie.7614:

saye.9304:

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

i did not buy raiding game …

Yes you did. You bought such a game with HoT. They announced long before release that raids would be added and that said raids would have unique rewards that are unobtainable anywhere else.

So why are you whining now? Did you just preorder HoT before any content was known? That’s your fault. You could preorder as late as some hours before release.

You don’t go to any car dealer, “pre-order” next years convertible without getting any information on it and then rage around like “I thought it would get from 0 to 200mp/h in 2 seconds, you betrayed me…”

Seriously, do you guys even read what you write?

the raiding with full info announced last, few weeks before the lunch…not including data mining and speculations.
wait a minute you are saying you do not know when Anet constantly advertising non traditional mmo.
interesting how fanboy defending this at least ask anet to give you some money or something because if you defend them on your own then get life.
they lied they added traditional stuff to the game.
you read what you write before defending a company that advertised their game as non raiding non traditional game for 3 years and few weeks before the lunch suddenly announce raiding is coming.

Please never edit your post. It’s hilarious.

i wont because anet said there will be challenging content never directly and officially said it is raiding with legendary armor.
as matter of fact people who were asking is expansion worth the price they were asking what is this challenging stuff exactly even wooden potato had video about it just soon after pre order announcement and asking what is this challenging content..rest was speculation and no official announcement.
now that person saying anet announced raiding months before with detail..where is the source??

The source? Here:
http://dulfy.net/2015/08/29/gw2-pax-prime-challenging-content-livestream-notes/
Announced on the same day that they announced the F2P-Model, at Pax East. So where exactly is your point?

omg do you have reading issue,you can not read dates.
first you said months before release now you link announcement made few weeks before release.
really?? you can not read dates?? you do have issue with numbers READ THE DATE OF ANNOUNCEMENT.
never say months before release again because that is lie.

Maybe you should read my post again? Never said anything about months, that was you. I only wrote they announced it “long before release” – a month before release counts as long before, at least in my book. So maybe just maybe, don’t throw arround insults about reading issues while having those issues yourself

long before in your book is one month??
then 6months is like years to you and years is like centuries to you…hmmm that explain you now i get it..you are good man be happy

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

Trixie.7614:

saye.9304:

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

i did not buy raiding game …

Yes you did. You bought such a game with HoT. They announced long before release that raids would be added and that said raids would have unique rewards that are unobtainable anywhere else.

So why are you whining now? Did you just preorder HoT before any content was known? That’s your fault. You could preorder as late as some hours before release.

You don’t go to any car dealer, “pre-order” next years convertible without getting any information on it and then rage around like “I thought it would get from 0 to 200mp/h in 2 seconds, you betrayed me…”

Seriously, do you guys even read what you write?

the raiding with full info announced last, few weeks before the lunch…not including data mining and speculations.
wait a minute you are saying you do not know when Anet constantly advertising non traditional mmo.
interesting how fanboy defending this at least ask anet to give you some money or something because if you defend them on your own then get life.
they lied they added traditional stuff to the game.
you read what you write before defending a company that advertised their game as non raiding non traditional game for 3 years and few weeks before the lunch suddenly announce raiding is coming.

Please never edit your post. It’s hilarious.

i wont because anet said there will be challenging content never directly and officially said it is raiding with legendary armor.
as matter of fact people who were asking is expansion worth the price they were asking what is this challenging stuff exactly even wooden potato had video about it just soon after pre order announcement and asking what is this challenging content..rest was speculation and no official announcement.
now that person saying anet announced raiding months before with detail..where is the source??

The source? Here:
http://dulfy.net/2015/08/29/gw2-pax-prime-challenging-content-livestream-notes/
Announced on the same day that they announced the F2P-Model, at Pax East. So where exactly is your point?

omg do you have reading issue,you can not read dates.
first you said months before(like 6 months before) release now you link announcement made just few months before release and after pax south
really?? you can not read dates?? you do have issue with numbers READ THE DATE OF ANNOUNCEMENT.
never say months like 6 months or something before release again because that is lie.
my point is when they announced pre-order at pax south they did not give proper information hence remember the people who bought the the core game just weeks before F2P announcement and anet had to refund their money.
the point is anet lied
as for pre-order i said in my very first post ill never pre order again yet alone spending money on this game.

Trixie.7614:

saye.9304:

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

i did not buy raiding game …

Yes you did. You bought such a game with HoT. They announced long before release that raids would be added and that said raids would have unique rewards that are unobtainable anywhere else.

So why are you whining now? Did you just preorder HoT before any content was known? That’s your fault. You could preorder as late as some hours before release.

You don’t go to any car dealer, “pre-order” next years convertible without getting any information on it and then rage around like “I thought it would get from 0 to 200mp/h in 2 seconds, you betrayed me…”

Seriously, do you guys even read what you write?

the raiding with full info announced last, few weeks before the lunch…not including data mining and speculations.
wait a minute you are saying you do not know when Anet constantly advertising non traditional mmo.
interesting how fanboy defending this at least ask anet to give you some money or something because if you defend them on your own then get life.
they lied they added traditional stuff to the game.
you read what you write before defending a company that advertised their game as non raiding non traditional game for 3 years and few weeks before the lunch suddenly announce raiding is coming.

Please never edit your post. It’s hilarious.

i wont because anet said there will be challenging content never directly and officially said it is raiding with legendary armor.
as matter of fact people who were asking is expansion worth the price they were asking what is this challenging stuff exactly even wooden potato had video about it just soon after pre order announcement and asking what is this challenging content..rest was speculation and no official announcement.
now that person saying anet announced raiding months before with detail..where is the source??

Beshbaliq.3724:

saye.9304:

i did not buy raiding game …

Yes you did. You bought such a game with HoT. They announced long before release that raids would be added and that said raids would have unique rewards that are unobtainable anywhere else.

So why are you whining now? Did you just preorder HoT before any content was known? That’s your fault. You could preorder as late as some hours before release.

You don’t go to any car dealer, “pre-order” next years convertible without getting any information on it and then rage around like “I thought it would get from 0 to 200mp/h in 2 seconds, you betrayed me…”

Seriously, do you guys even read what you write?

the raiding with full info announced last, few weeks before the lunch…not including data mining and speculations.
wait a minute you are saying you do not know when Anet constantly advertising non traditional mmo.
interesting how fanboy defending this at least ask anet to give you some money or something because if you defend them on your own then get life.
they lied they added traditional stuff to the game.
you read what you write before defending a company that advertised their game as non raiding non traditional game for 3 years and few weeks before the lunch suddenly announce raiding is coming.

i did not buy raiding game and i do not play raiding games….after i put over 2000 hours into this game and spent 500 euro on it..all of sudden the game becomes a traditional raiding game with sweet legendary armor is locked behind raiding wall just like raiding games where high end gear and special reward comes from raiding only.
at least rift/wild star/wow were honest as matter of fact they even reduce the difficulty or added easy mode to help casual players while gw2 did not even add easier version.
to me anet betrayed me and i will never spend a single euro on this game and when next expansion comes i will wait for review and ask my friends if next expansion is similar to hot then i wont even buy it.
and to all fanboys do not even tell me legendary armor is optional…i bought gw2 because everything in the game including legendary items were access able to even most casual players it was just matter of time but it was possible to get it non the less.

i finished ps recently for 3rd time and i liked it more than hot which is too short and easy to repeat and get reward on multiple character since it is short more like LS/LW season rather than story of an expansion.
the ting is anet put a lot of resources into story telling in original game and one of the most strongest aspects of gw2 was/is its story but with hot they change direction toward raiding therefore you get kind of story telling similar to raiding games like rift…story is short because raider wants to go for raiding( the so called pve end game)
yeah that is traditional way of story telling in traditional games.
and gw2 changed direction toward them..does this means defeat for anet who claimed they don not make traditional games,maybe.
but to me gw2 is now another ordinary raiding mmo like many others.

long bow.
i also have gs as melee weapon but you can take sword.
long bow has decent dps with both hard hitting single target and aoe skills.
very good for first raid boss and excellent for rest of the game.

i bought it via amazon and i got the code but there is no apply code in my account..how to use the code and upgrade my account??

it was fake site selling hot..so i removed the linked..thanks to palador for info.

Haaretram.6214:

Are you a warrior with the deep strikes trait? I assumed that bug was fixed at some point, and don’t even remember what caused the game to lose count of how many signets you have active, but 1 signet is worth just under 2% crit chance at level 80, which matches the range you have seen. It also was definitely fixed any time you change maps. Since you gave absolutely no information about your build, that is a perfect match with the details you have provided.

If that is the source of your problem, then there is no need to change maps. Casting your signets so that they are all on cooldown at the same time should reset it, as you obviously cannot have -1 signets active.

If it is not the source of your problem, I recommend explaining how you are getting 89% crit chance so that each component can be checked for similar issues.

thanks for help dude..yes i am warrior with full signets setup..good to know there is a way to solve the scaling bug without leaving map..but non the less it is an annoying issue and force you to check your character screen and active your signets.
it is a BUG non the less and anet must solve it.

this could be rare bug which is only happens to me..but since the game has scaling system it might happen to others but they did not notice because usually people wont open their character screen in middle of playing..any ways here is the bug:
in level 80 maps like silver waste when i use my foods i have 89% critical chance..but all of the sudden my critical chance drops from 89% to 80% or 82% or 87%..basically drops for no reason to a random number between 80% to 87%.
…it is not the food issue i have tried different foods with 70 precision boost and still got same bug.
..it happens randomly in level 80 maps but there is high chance that it is also dropping in lower maps but i did not notice..i only noticed the level 80 bug.
now there is annoying way to solve this:
if i leave the map i was in like silver waste and go back inside..this will solve my critical chance bug and it will go back to 89% as it should be..although there is still chance that bug might happen again.
but this is an annoying issue particularly if you are in good SW map and can not get back in because of full map thing.
this is obviously a bug since leaving the map will fix it temporarily.
please fix it ANET.

Bubi.7942:

“For me” being the key words here. You can imagine, not many people enjoy 20 alts dress up party thing, but would like to play for something meaningful to them.

The “casualness” of the game has led to a pretty massive decline… maybe it is time for a change after all.

massive decline?? do you have the official announcement from anet or ncsoft??
if you have please link it..if you do not then do not give your imagination as fact

thank you op for being smart and you did not just jumped on hype train blindly.
the so called Masteries is not something new despite anet trying to tell you otherwise. similar systems already exist in games like rift(pa),,poe and recently ESO added champion system which exactly similar to Masteries in terms of character progression.
that being said.. yes it can be quite grindy for skill you need for certain boss for example and nothing more.
WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE..no conclusion it is just to say there is high chance of skill grind which is not fun. JUST HEADS UP.

this game is heaven for farmers and grinders with insane endless 24/7 champ farm or SW chest farm. i just spend 50 euro buying 4000 gem which gives me only like 450g..by far less than you farmers.. I WILL STOP SPENDING MONEY ON THIS GAME..i feel i keep the game alive for farmers and grinders.

ok its official:
No new tier of gear
No increase in level cap

about no new level:
i can not agree more on this one with anet, character progression through Mastery system or champion system of ESO is a best way of character progression and actually it is fun and make sense, the abilities you are unlocking might come handy years after the day you unlocked it,you make your character more power full slowly and all these powers and abilities makes your character actually stronger while keeping the entire world of the game still challenging and fun and rewarding to play rather than traditional level cap increase which is nothing but illusion of power and makes 90% of the world meaningless to play because of the useless reward and no challenge.

about no new tier of gear:
ok i do not like gear grind/treadmill particularly when you think about games which add new gear every 6 months or even 3 months, its like chasing after endless numbers, tier 1 has 10 power and tier 2 comes out with 20 power,,and endless ridiculous chase.
that being said.. games with no tier of gear are as bad as the ones with super grind,, why??
because it removes the fun of new gear and stuff,i mean if anet adds new tier of gear every year or so it wont be gear grind since you have long time to get it and when you got it you will use it for fair amount of time.
the exotic/ascended model of gear is actually good and fair makes every one happy..exotic is still good for most of the content of the game but if you like little bit of gear grind like me then you will have ascended to go for.
now the expansion will continue with same stuff which is not good..we need little bit of gear grind like topping on pizza.

this can not be book because the story of guild wars universe is going on in gw2 right now,living story and all if it is book what the story could be?? i do not think it is book.
obviously not gw2 movie i do not think anet or ncsoft are going to invest in movie making while that money can be used to improve the game even blizzard wow movie comes out 11 years after release of the game with the game having super solid player base. too soon for movie so it is not movie.
yes it could be pretty much an expansion well every thing will be revealed in pax sout just wait few more days.

how we’re setting up a new framework for how an MMO can grow its universe

i have bad feeling about that sentence above,well we have to wait and see.
and should not anet announce such event on front page of website rather than becoming to know about it here on forum.

Duncanmix.5238:

saye.9304:

gw2 is adding new content pretty slow with no expansion in sight.

gw2 should not be your main mmo because it is very casual mmo with slow content addition, if you keep it as your second mmo and play it from time to time ((during the living story)) then its all good dont consider it as your main mmo or only mmo.

I was like this before too. I was unhappy with pace, and quited playing after many hours of joy. But before I left game I would write negative on forum, was very unhappy. But now I realize that was wrong of me, and feel bad for some posts. It’s one thing to be unhappy and saturated with game, It’s another thing to be some self righteous ahole, and spread negativity. And btw GW2 is one of rare mmos who put out content frequently (and for free).
Also I’m sure anet doing their best, its in their best interest to keep game alive. So being negative and spreading negativity like this, just reconsider doing these kind of posts.
When u feel like u don’t wanna play gw2, just do something else. No need to poison forum. But I feel eventually you will come back like I did. Its simply best mmo today.

did i say do not play gw2 anymore or i said have other games to play when there is no content in gw2 since gw2 is casual game it is fact. many people do this as matter of fact it is not negative at all. in fact i said keep gw2 as your second mmo and play it. learn to read properly, and you are wrong you are still ahole who can not read also.

gw2 is adding new content pretty slow with no expansion in sight.

gw2 should not be your main mmo because it is very casual mmo with slow content addition, if you keep it as your second mmo and play it from time to time ((during the living story)) then its all good dont consider it as your main mmo or only mmo.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

dsslive.8473:

Woudl the contents of the feature packs be considered ‘content’? if so then they seem to be missing from your list.

Those are feature packs, which contain features. I left features off of both lists except for LFG and cross server stuff since that revolutionized the MMO genre starting with WoW.

I also did both lists in compact form. I used the same form for WoW and GW2, GW2 just didn’t add nearly as much content as WoW did in the same time frame. You are welcome to type out an expanded list, just make sure you use the same format when you type up the comparison list for WoW. I don’t have enough time to type out the pages and pages it would take. I mean each zone in WoW contains a full LS worth of story and content through their quests, with special instances, voice over etc, just as GW2 LS does. The difference of course being that WoW released 10 seasons worth of that in 2 years as opposed to 2.

Of course looking back I left a couple of things off the WoW list. They also added in a new crafting profession and expanded all existing crafting professions (as opposed to just 3/4 of them like GW2)

they even did not add content equal to gw1 first 2 years. and you compare it with king of the hill?? dude this game can not be even compared to gw1((in terms of content addition)) yet wow, lol

Guhracie.3419:

nickiehu.1674:

Geez, guys calm down. The LS wasn’t that great that it’s worth the amount of whining in this thread.
Sorry, but in my opinion gw2 would be far worse if they would cut or skip the nice festival-events like Wintersday or Halloween just for the sake of the LS. I’m sure if they did this, the forum would be flooded with hate-threads…
Let’s just give the devs the benefit of the doubt, that they will make better decisions for the gameplay and content in the new year.

Yeah, because they’ve made such excellent decisions this year. I totally agree that it’s terrible that they skip festival content in favor of living story, though. Like SAB and Dragon Bash.

they never have to skip festival event it can come a weak after LS or even along with LS considering the festival event is same as last year with minor changes, what they did was to use festival as excuse to take another break and end year with unfinished ls season, that is lazy kind of work.

dlonie.6547:

saye.9304:

good thing i stopped buying gw2-gem card 2 months ago and bought eso and i might resubscribe to swtor, this game is going down the hill. i will check living world stuff just for the sake of story, but i wont spend any money on this game anymore.

How do you like ESO? I’m thinking of going back. It was a rough launch, but I hear they’ve been doing a lot of work since — and they actually talk about the future….

i just started playing eso. leveling is fun with full voice acting and all, i have not seen any bug yet((maybe i am lucky)), you better ask people on redit or mmorpg.com about it, veteran eso players are there too, i am just newbie.

wasted.6817:

DiogoSilva.7089:

I was hoping they would end this year with a bang.

Instead it’s just another fart.

Point of no return, no less. Might have a different meaning to what AN had in mind.

haha, good point. the irony of the “point of no return”

good thing i stopped buying gw2-gem card 2 months ago and bought eso and i might resubscribe to swtor, this game is going down the hill. i will check living world stuff just for the sake of story, but i wont spend any money on this game anymore.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Currently, I think that if (and that’s still a big if) they do an expansion, it will actually be based between seasons of the Living World, probably using those seasons as build-up for the expansion’s plots.

For example, if the current rumoring of an expansion in progress is accurate, then the expansion will focus primarily on Mordremoth, using Seasons 1 and 2 as build-ins. And Season 3 will be based after the expansion.

Similar to Agents of Shield tv show and the current marvel movies – the tv show is based between the movies, and when the show begins to be based after a movie, there’s a notice saying that the following episodes take place after the events of <insert movie name here>.

This would also be a business ploy for obvious reasons if you care about proper storytelling and experiencing things in chronological order. If you want to understand the build-up, then you’ll have to buy (or remain playing) for the Living World; if you want to know the conclusions, you have to buy the expansions.

If they go with such a route – which currently to me seems to be the case (that or we’re not going to be killing Mordy until Season 5 which would just be utterly stupid) – then the future of plots I see is:

• S2 completes with confronting Caithe and re-obtaining the egg
• Expansion tells how we use the egg to save the world (at long last) and a final confrontation with Mordremoth
• S3 opens with a new plot that will at the very very end tie into the beginning campaign against the next dragon
• S4 said beginning campaign against said next dragon (basically Jormag/Kralk/Scleritethin/Primordus’ version of Claw Island and original greatest fear arcs of PS or E1-5 of S2), perhaps with a different focus akin to the egg.
• Expansion 2 will be the full campaign against said next dragon (effectively the other dragons’ version of assaulting Orr).

etc. etc. rinse repeat

you know what is problem with that kind of story telling?? it makes every living world season to be kind of similar to each other and you already know what is the story and lore of whole thing is all about including the story of expansion before even it gets released. so basically boring similar dragon slaying story over and over again.
expansions of games like wow,swtor,tera,ffx etc they all have new story to tell in fact the expansion of some them already released((swotor.wow)) or they are about to be released soon((tera)) so they revealed some stuff about it.
personally it would be really boring to me when i already know what is in store and no surprise. 5 dragon remaining and it takes 10 years to kill them all based on what you said. if expansion hits every 2 years or else like now it is gonna take even more.