Rumbles-Engineer
Simma Down Meow-Ranger
Templates please. gear/rune&sigil/trait templates would be amazing. would also make it easier for pugs to quickly setup for roles if they needed to before matches start.
Edit: This is for PvP by the way
I would really like to make a DS build using some of the new/changed traits we got last patch. I’m a little burnt out on everyone QQing about my Terrormancer (non 30-30-10 build).
problem I’m running into though is LF generation if I go with wells for utilities OR damage spikes if I run spectrals for LF boosts.
currently trying 30-10-0-0-30.
II-VIII-XII
V
IV-VI-XII
using Knights ammy, zerker jewel
Dagger/WH & Axe/focus
Reapers Precision seems to help a “liiiiiitle” with LF gen but I’m not really sure its worth it. Problem is, I want Close to Death AAAAND Deathy Perception which is all fine and good, but it cuts out some other build options like well cooldowns.
I’m sure other folks have theory crafted or found some stuff. please share your DS build ideas
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This deserves to be back on page one.
Make MM viable in high tpvp, Anet. puuuleeeez
I think adding a AoE damage reduction to the Flesh of the Master trait wouldn’t be too over the top.
It would be nice if we had a little more control over them too, as someone mentioned a “Return” or “Call back” command. that would help keep them from standing in fire so to speak. Hell, I’d be happy with Attack and Return commands. just 2 buttons. the 2 auto attack thing feels buggy sometimes.
….I see what you did there…
Necros are bad. Go back to your main. Nothing to see here.
I’ve mained a Necro for a while now, all I’ve gotta say is every time my team (with only me as necro) have gone up against these dumb 3-5 necro teams, they lose horribly. Like…200 point spread at least. some stun breaks, stability, and tada. we’ve built to counter this fotm meta and it hasn’t destroyed our builds. once you quit having 2-4 necros on enemy teams (due to them losing horribly and going back to their mains) I think all this will settle down.
P.S. put a 2 second ICD on individual fears on Spectral Wall per person and stop the QQing.
No, you take more damage from Terror if they already have a condi on them. it doesnt keep going up per condi.
just let the bandwagoneers go back to their old classes and it wont be that bad. This is no different than if everyone rolled CC engis and knocked and blasted everyone around constantly
No. Fifteen charrs.
SG back into SWall is so fun
at least 1k, you can get up to around 1406 pretty comfortably in pvp.
yeah, my eyeballs hurt from all the QQ now. eyeroll I don’t think its that necros are OP now, you just have a bunch of noobs spamming fear so people are crying.
New target aquired.
Spvp QQers crossfire starting in 3…2…1…
Gl with that Necs.
/Mes
not to throw mesmers under the bus….lol…dem shatter spams hurt. I’ve had teammates get nuked in 3-4 seconds from full health due to bad positioning
but REALLY? killing you guys over the course of 8-10 seconds calls for a QQ???
Finally…..let your misguided tears strengthen me…mwahahaha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromancy
if we are getting all technical, Necros in “mythology” were divination folk. speaking with the dead by summoning their spirit or corpse to commune with.
soooo fireballs and liches are all out the window. Its a fantasy game. don’t take the trait if you don’t like it. It’s in a location for Hybrids anyways. I won’t take it on my condimancer because the SR tree is just too nice.
^^^^^^^ what Bawb said. its not like Anet has to follow their own rules.
^^^^ lololol….
…but its true.
^^^^ I love axe 3
if anet is making a futuristic mmo…I’m so on that
The playstyle, animations, styling, the IDEA behind what Anet wants them to be (hopefully will happen soon), wide variety of semi functional builds
Haha yes. Sell different voices in the shop, aka HoN! I’d buy a few of them.
climbing the ladder isn’t what I’m interested in. as I said, I love the class and in certain situations (when the stars align just right) I can pull off some clutch plays that make my team go nuts over skype. I’m just frustrated with some aspects of the class that seem severely lacking that with tweaking, could bring us up to serious competitive play.
I’ll go over the builds I’ve tried thoroughly
wellomancer-fun, good damage, really long cooldowns for something folks can just stand out of. and yeah, folks will burn a cleanse to get out of D3.
standard condi-decent condi pressure but I go against so many classes that in some way or another cleanse off our small number of individual conditions. on my engi I can spam so many condis so fast I rarely see all of them cleansed which allows for higher uptime.
MM and variants- I’ve had the most luck with a 20-0-20-30-0 build. its fun, tanky, and you can just keep going and going. But…theres always that one mesmer with moa…or the whirling blades, or anything else that kills most of my minions even with the %health trait.
I love the necro, I really do. I’m gonna pm you guys in game and hope I can be shown that thing that I have to be over looking. kinda like when you look all over the house for your keys and then your wife points at the coffee table and there they are, sitting out in the open.
thanks guys
Sure thing, as soon as I get home from work
If you’re referring to DS5, I highly doubt 1 ability is going to fix the class. Everything else on this forum is either complaints or ideas too. I don’t see what your reply is referencing. By all means, do tell.
I’m really trying to find a way to make necro work in Tpvp. Of course, any role I try to fill is done better by someone else. I know some folks will argue but its time to face the facts.
Bunker-guard, ranger, engi, and to an extent, elese do it better.
Condis-engi is better by leaps and bounds, rangers are high up there too (can’t just dodge roll through traps to negate completely)
Burst-thieves, warriors, engis, rangers, Mesmer
Utility-mesmer, engi, guard, ele
Now I know I’m downing the class. All of what I’ve said is true though. The sad part is, I absolutely love this class, what it COULD be. Utilities cooldowns are too long, traits don’t make any sense most of the time/wrong placement. Staff cooldowns just a tad too long.
I’m really hoping we get some changes soon. I dont want to be OP at all. I just would like to have a niche to fill besides our rez signet and epidemics that rarely spread more than a 3 stack of bleeds or so due to every class having multiple cleanses. Besides warriors. They need a little help too.
tl;dr- I love this class. Just can’t seem to make it work in Tpvp. Hope we get love soon.
as for DS#5, maybe make it a DoT that either:
a.works like Torment from a certain raven loving pegleg, increasing all incoming damage to target by X%.
b.works like UA from another game, but instead of a silence or daze, pops an epidemic before the main targets condis are removed.
I dunno, just a couple of thoughts I had
just from the top of my head…curses GM trait that gives each condition you apply a % chance to not be cleansed. very niche. very necro…y.
Just curious, are there any hotjoin games anymore? maybe I missed the memo but every game I join in spvp is dueling or 2 guys feeding each others scores….
I usually Tpvp but prefer to do that when my friends are online.
Yeah…I play a p/s, FT, EG build with healing turret and my brother and I already make good use of combo fields and finishers. A 5 second waterfield really makes me happy :-)
anyone else had a problem getting nuked through elixer S? sometimes I pop it at around half health, then die a second later. no outstanding conditions or anything. just curious if anyone else has been getting it.
combat log says I’m still taking damage.
IoJ in DRs bay keep area….
Gotta run from two of us? can’t come fight till theres 6-8 of you? thats just sad. go back to your dungeon farming. I could understand a couple of you doing it, but all of you there doing it for the last half hour? lulz.
I mainly WvW and they group together so I can’t Xrealm party them to call them out. /laughing and getting my charr friend to “dance” on them shall have to suffice. its surprising how many bad thieves will just spam HS on me….with my 29k health and 2.9k tough while my buddies clean them up. just a heads up, most necros aren’t paper targets, save your Init.
Please don’t do it. It makes you look really really bad.
I choose to play the necro a certain way. don’t /facepalm me when I said I don’t see anything wrong with them. I play a condition centric class as a condition build, in a part of the game that conditions are strong. so yes, I think they are fine.
I’m all for you guys doing your off the wall builds. I’m a big fan of power/DS focused necro builds myself, but I stated my opinion about the way I play. /classisfine
Besides a few broken skills/traits, I don’t see anything wrong with us. I run a full rabid condimancer in WvW and have a blast. survivability, damage, lootbags, and spread ALL the conditions!
Wow, a lot of activity on this thread while I was at work lol. Sorry if the title sounded pompous, I’ve seen some “come join T8 server X!” posts, thats what it came from. We are actually in a bit of a tossup when it comes to where we are going. Darkhaven looks like a good spot to bounce between the T6-T7 area or we will go to FC or ET. like someone else posted, most of the fairweather players probably already dipped so those that stayed are more than likely the gritty, rough, prideful type I like fighting beside. I don’t want to constantly faceroll the other servers, I just enjoy fair fights.
I’ll miss ya Eva. You’re a great commander
P.S. if Miss Terribad was active again, DB would surely be STOMPING faces right now
Looking to leave T3 since its a lopsided zergfest. looking for good skirmish fights, not 50v4 constantly. any ideas on a T8 server?
it was like that with FA last week too. almost has me wanting to move to T8 so I can have some decent skirmishes and not these culling infested, face palm inducing, steam rolls that come from no where.
Like someone else said, I run different traits and gear depending on if I want to be GC rifle SD build, Nade spamming, P/S toolkit/elixer tank, or whatever else I think would be fun. Engi is a very versatile proffesion. The high skill cap is what keeps me playing it though.
I’ve played ele for a while now, I’ve got D/D down to muscle memory. Is it just me though or does it feel like the end of Burning Speed should be a blast finisher or leap finisher instead of a fire combo field? I dunno, it just doesn’t seem to fit it. It doesn’t leave a “field” behind for the duration. Just seems like it should be blast or leap to me. Thoughts?
Go D/D and put 10 points into arcane. Takes a bit to get used to but elementalist is very survival heavy if you are playing it correctly.
Actually…he uses a regular keyboard and standard mouse lol. Maaaad skillllz. I think most of it is just muscle memory. In pvp I’ve got my cooldowns kinda memorized. I know if I use abilities x and y from attunement 1, I can go through x amount of skills before the first two abilities I used are back up. It’s just practice practice practice…lol
:) glad some folks agree. This is a profession where the player makes or breaks it. I’ve fought against bad eles of all builds and great eles too. It’s not class mechanics that inhibit us, its decision making and quick thinking. So many times I’ve ended up somewhere I shouldn’t be…like 1v5s on a point. Nothing an earthquake followed by RTL couldn’t fix lol.
(If I was Dapheonix the 1v5 would be easy lol. Props to him)
I just wanted to make a semi inebriated post about my views on Eles. Bear with me please.
I started out playing an engineer at release. Idea was, “I’m gonna support my buddies, do a bunch of kit switching, have an active playstyle….” for some reason it just didn’t click. I tried different builds in pve and spvp. Don’t get me wrong, Engis are fun and I love the idea behind them and their steam punk turrets and stuff, gameplay is pretty fun…..
And then I started playing a mesmer with the idea of “I’m gonna confuse people, do a bunch of clone spawning, and have an active playstyle…” and that was my first 80. all was well untill I played 60-70 spvp matches with him, when I realized “Kitten, I can stomp baddies but good players always see through the clones and stay right on me”….and that kinda messed up the Mesmer for me.
Finally I rolled an ele, still leveling her up, played a ton of spvp with a ridiculous amount of builds. Close to level 70 in PvE. I’ve gotta say, most fun I’ve had in PvE and in PvP/Wv3. I don’t roflstomp everyone. its fo sho not a faceroll class. But maaaaaaaan, some of the crazy stuff I can pull off due to this classes versatility and survivability is insane. I love swapping attunements, having to make split decision calls as to whether to go from Fire to Water or Earth depending on the situation…, to use X utility now or save it for when I swap to X element…Its engrossing. I love this class.
Yeah we need some bug fixes, maybe even have some attunements damage tuned up a little, but I can wait. I personally think Anet did a great job with the idea of this classes playstyle.
Ok. I’m done. BTW…Seagrams 7 cherry whiskey+a splash of cherry pepsi…wewhew….lol
I will have to disagree with the OP. lately I’m trying to see how weird of a build I have to come up with to finally be useless….its surprising.
I haven’t read most of these posts. I’m just gonna say If a few pieces of gear make you useless or unable to measure up, play a different game. Its not nearly as bad as when I forget to swap back to another sPvP amulet but guess what, my toon still works. Enemies still die. And if people are not letting you join groups because you don’t have full sets of stuff….lie to them. there is no gear inspection last I checked and trans stones abound. If you suck with your class, you suck with your class. 100 points in power or Vit aren’t going to change things like night and day.
I’ll take an invite
You are correct. I was just frustrated and on this specific death ye old loading screen of eternity popped up. My apologies and thanks for that link. Good discussion there about those abilities.
for the love of Kittens, remove Haste/Invis/Stability stomps….kinda makes the whole thing worthless.
I heard thieves get longer fears than necros….crazy man, crazy…
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