Guild Wars 2

I’ve come and gone from gw2 pvp a lot, and i always find playing a high dps low hp variant a good and quick way in unranked to learn the meta, after about 15 games you’ve got a solid grasp on the basics of what each class is playing and what your ranked games will entail. I’d definitly take druid+staff as its what makes us viable in the current meta game. it’s also good for new players to learn what the dangerous move are that they should be avoiding same goes for condi removal.

I find that most players are usually carried by their cooldowns and high sustain to keep them to the next fight. its at the higher levels that players will bait your cd’s and call out utilities used to their teammates. for example, in high tier pvp using signet of stone completely forces me to change the way i think and play until it is back off cooldown. in hotjoin though i could use stone to carry me in a fight. and suffer no consequences from it.

AN ARENA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Weren’t you one of the players actively participating in match manipulation. why should anyone listen or even take your comment on board after showing such a disregard for the pvp community.

Im sick of hearing this lore reason, yes it is behind lore, however the title is the first thing a consumer see’s it is a given that the title is a marketing double entendre and is meant to ensue the Guild element, to deny this is ludicrous

ill just leave this here

TooBz.3065:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

About the topic of PvP which I’ve already commented on, but I guess I’ll do it again:

I don’t really enjoy PvP. I do WvW or sPvP on occasion, have a pretty good idea of what I’m doing, but it just doesn’t keep me entertained. I enjoy refining strategies, learning boss encounters, seeing how fast I can complete dungeons etc. Bosses in this game (save Legendary Imbued Shaman, Mossman because he has a stealth party and is broken, and Simin pre-nerfs) just sit around and let you attack them, posing no threat. HotW is a great example, so is the Jellyfish in Fractals. The bosses and dungeons aren’t fun anymore, and there isn’t any new influx of content that is similar (Molten Facility was a time-gated joke to me) and challenging. PvP is something that is fun for me in small amounts, but it gets stale and boring much faster to me than PvE. The opposite is probably true for PvP enthusiasts, because they don’t like sticking to a strict routine of memorizing patterns, which is more what I like. I used to play LoL quite a bit before GW2, sat around 1500 elo and then trolled my way down to ~500 elo with Blitzcrank and Rocket Grab. It was fun in phases, but I wasn’t able to sit and go at it for hours and hours like I enjoy with PvE. If new content was introduced that presented some sort of a challenge to me or othe rhardcore players, I would really be able to enjoy Guild Wars 2 more, but there just isn’t any content that fits that bill in this game.

The problem with PvE is that you can learn the strategies, and once you do, perfect your execution. By its very nature you will eventually exhaust the available content. Which is why I suggested PvP, where it’s impossible to learn all the strategies because they adapt.

However, if you don’t like PvP, then yes, you may have exhausted all of the content. But you may need to take a break and wait for ANet to produce new content. Like reading a book or watching a movie, it takes far longer to create than it takes to experience.

whats wrong with learning the strategies? thats what i like about challenges some might be harder to learn and its not guarenteed that you could eventually do it.

Cynz.9437:

People who are high ranked on NA…. well… did exploit, actually quite openly, everyone knows it only customer support refuses to accept it by the looks of it (the actions or rather lack of it speak for themselves).

People who are high ranked on EU (for most part) are actually good players but they also play only in duoq or don’t queue at all. You will never get high rank and keep it by playing solo.

I am also surprised you just figured that current pvp system is a lottery. It has been like this for while. Only way to make up for bad draw is to be able to solo enemy team so your own team won’t even have chance to get wiped.

RedCobra.7693:

Maybe the other team were just better? think about it, the same constrictions are there for the other team. however the only consistent value is YOU, yes you can get unlucky but over time it will average out and you will be where you belong. which with the attitude i read…is silver.

It does not even out overtime, at least at higher ranks due to how MM works. Say top 4 are queueing. The MM puts them together in one team and looks for someone in similar rating to fill 5th spot. So far so good. Now the system attempts to build enemy team and here is the issue. There is only so many top players queueing at time. So what does Mm do? It grabs say some plat 2 players because they are next high ranked that queue at time. It grabs some gold players because it couldn’t find anything higher ranked. And then you have the case of top 5 players facing golds and plats. This is a thing, it does happen.
Take a wild guess how those matches go? It never gets better either.

Your response however does not diminish my statement. those “pro” players arent any different from us, they have the same constraints and restriction theyre just better at the game. youre forgetting the fact that everything you mentioned affects both sides and therefore cant personally only affect yourself every single time, yes youre right in being that sometimes its a lottery (not so much as unranked ofc) but this over time averages out. over time you will be were you belong. its early season still atm and good players are still climbing so the rankings are a little volatile. less skilled players tend to wait a little until the majority of pro players have climbed to where they should be.

I’ll say this once again, these “I lost because of bad players” excuse is such BS, the very fact that you say this tells me everything i need to know about you as a pvp player.

When i lose i never blame my team, i simply load up the vod look at what happened and ask myself "what could I have done better to win this game. in 99% of cases i spot about 5-10 things that i cringe at and work on not repeating the next game.

if once again i repeat the same issues i will start to note down my repeat mistakes, then actively train them.

both teams can have bad players both teams can have good players. the only value you can change and that is consistent in ALL your matches is YOU. dont waste time avoiding the very thing you have full control over.

stay salty my friend and good luck in the “ELO hell” lottery

Magische Boek.2530:

we have keg brawl! besides that we have awesome mini game’s during events like now with dragon bash we have dragon ball, with the southsun event we have the crab toss and so on.

yeah they are good but they dont allow you to work with your friends, i disagree with allowing you to duel your friends due to obvious exploit reasons but there is no reason why we shouldnt be able to party up

ugrakarma.9416:

Cynz.9437:

RedCobra.7693:

Trevor Boyer.6524:

It’s not the algorithm’s fault.
It’s match manipulation.
That is why match making feels terrible this season.

Despite what your friends and friends of friends may admit to or not, I’m telling you right now that almost half of the participants this ranked season are running at least one kitten method of match manipulation. The try hards are running them all and since there is no division segregation anymore, that means that we all play together. Thus, no one is able to avoid the match manipulation mole throwing. It will happen to you and if you are a legit player that isn’t partaking in all of this, g’luck. I don’t even mean that in a cliché sense, I mean it literally. Good luck with who’s in your que when you hit that button.

Are you NA? im EU and havn’t experience any manipulation at all.

Queue at 5 am for fun.

yeah, i play many differents timezones, and noticed this.

In the previous season, it was remarkable a certain level of skill in the silver. This time it was very strange, I’m silver, but taking matches with people who do not understand the basics of the maps.

This gets worse in certain TMZ.

Trust me, the only tier where the skill level is consistently better is legend. im in plat atm with druid. being druid means you have to often take those 1v1’s which leaves your team to 4v4, <<< right there. that reason. it turns to a 50-50 fight win ratio if you average out every single game, meaning that the quicker i win that 1v1 and help my team the faster i can +1 and turn it into a 70-30

Its this kind of mentality of placing yourself into winning scenarios such as taking rotations or your match-up in account that doesn’t really come into play until legend. its luck what i get on my team so i need to give them the best possible chance of winning. people who usually just say “im losing because of bad teammates all the time” are very likely the players that dont understand these concepts.

if you HAVE to fight it? #surgerunes

Nick.6972:

The first game was well known for the GvG mode. There were big tournaments with much bigger cash rewards than in this game.
It’s reasonable to expect the sequel to have similar features and content as in the original game.

And lets be honest, most people don’t care about the lore.

^this exactly

also @truthbearer,
How can you say my argument was Non existent, i provided quite a lot of examples
the fact that you chose non subjective titles shows youre just clinging on
If guild wars was called something like tyria online id understand but its not, its called Guild wars, so i expects some guild wars,

Find me one very subjective title that doesnt give you what it suggests and i will accept that you are right

This is in the wrong section.

Please delete this post and move it to “Community Corner” > “Community Creations”.
alternatively wait for an admin to move the post. lel

Cush.4063:

1. Phantasms do a kitten ton of damage.
2. Phantasms have more health than clones so they are harder to kill
3. With 3 phantasms up and being in stealth that is massive damage
4. Killing them put conditions on yourself if traited
5. All mesmers stealth abilities are not on long cool downs
6. With mesmers in stealth with multipe phantasms up they can do more damage than thieves without being revealed.
7. I have more hours on my mesmer than any other class so don’t tell me I don’t play mesmer and that’s why I’m hating on it.
8. I’m not hating on mesmers but just putting down invalid arguments from the mesmers in this forum and i just hate when people defend their class with false info
8. The targetting system is fine. That’s the main point of stealth and clones, to trick you into targetting the clone instead of the player not knowing which is which.
9. I feel that that should be the only reason to be able to use stealth, as a defensive mechanic to make someone think that a clone is the player and not to hide in stealth while having only phantasms up noobing the enemy.

Thanks!

1. only if you trait for it
2. they are slow moving and all damge can be negate with one roll/dodge
3.it takes a while to get 3 up and even then they have no clones giving away there position instantly
4.only damaginh one is the bleed and only really works if they are a condition mesmer, but youre complaining about phantasms, dont group builds to make them sound OP
5.yes they are, pristige is 30secs and decoy is 40, MI is on a 90 sec cooldown, that is the only stealths they get, im gonna ignore veil as its either a 3sec stealth on a 90 sec CD or 6 secs that requires you to stay rooted.
6.indeed the unrevealed part is the main advantage that mesmers have however phantasms are easilly evaded and kited.
7.so what? ive 1300 hours on mesmer alone it doesnt make you better than anyone, maybe if you say what class you are when youre getting beat by this PU Mesmer
8. and you havnt provided false info?
9.umm its working as intended

Im guessing that complaints are popping up due to PU becoming more common, its always been there but since the rlease of speed and traveller runes no one has to take focus anymore inticing mesmers into a stealth build, i use it my self, its good and allows me to rotate my CD’s effectively, ive always used it and the only difference since launch is the speed and boons, same stealth same tactics, now mantra healing and condition removal on mantra use thats a whole new story, with mantra healing and mantra toughness you can out heal a thieves dps and with the mantra condition removal on heal you can out remove condtions making perplexity easy.

suck when it comes to pvp? you clearly dont play pvp, i have a mesmer and warrior and the warrior is what i usually have trouble with when on my mesmer

10/10 I’m amused haha.

was reading thinking this was serious at first. top rate trolling

Pvt Frosty.6973:

I was thinking about something along those lines anyway. Can’t really tell you what is going wrong n your fights considering I haven’t seen any myself. Might try record some 1v1s /work through my footage.

We can also go through your vods at some point and I’ll try point out a few things, considering my recordings will be on Dagger. (could also be that Warhorn just doesn’t beat necros)

I dont have a channel to share vids at the moment as i just use shadowplay to review footage. but ill look into setting one up. last night in queues i took the necro 1v1 everytime youre right winning seems to be easier if i play for the long haul, sustain is obviously the thing necro loses out on but my fights are 3min+ I won the last 6 matches ive had which is good warhorn still not being accounted for in 1v1’s by my enemy no one seems to play around it which in high plat seems very sad considering you just need to dodge.

First soloq legend druid inbound?

wrong… once the 5 races come to realise that they cant beat the ED’s they realise that they need to preserve as much magic as possible, harvesting the bloodstones as to not allowing the dragons to consume them

let me summarise:

“Help im a sub-par player having trouble with a non viable cheesy build that has no place in competitive pvp”

rabid gear with rabid pistol and shield go 30/10/0/15/15 with the medkit as heal, grenade kit for aoe condi pressure and elixer gun for combo field and heal, bomb kit for smoke field with point defence for camps and close proximity (aka warriors) at 25% health your toolkits reset meaning you can use your 5k heal again

overall the build is tanky and does amazing condi damage, oh and im weird so for runes i use rune of the inflicted as i use poison and bleeds more so got those instead of nightmare.

im not going to mention perplexity runes as theyre more than likely gonna get nerfed :P

Lankybrit.4598:

Let me try:

Your character has a profession (Engineer, Warrior etc.) commonly called a class in other MMOs.

Your character can have 2 Crafts (Amorsmith, Cooking etc.) at one time.

I presume you’re talking about Crafts.

Your question is answered here:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crafting

Crafting discipline*

Hi guys,

i recently posted a build for my mesmer who is my main, while i got a lot of criticism for being to squishy, most people came to the conclusion that it was okay due to being on t9 WvW, ive recently changed my trinkets from zerk to knights and pushed more into reflection for large AoE damage in zergs, is there any improvements i can make with this build, im aware that GS may be able to be replaced but the aoe from izerk is invaluable to me for an aoe burst

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAR8dl0zipHSzqGa9IipC92pHQ3y9clegb82FC-jEDBYfJDDMQojwUAYkFBhIAmKAK7pIasFTFRjVbDTDjIq2krIa1SBYmwI-w

RedC

Alissah.9281:

Trident is condition damage.. kind of. They nerfed it though, and now it’s just a below average power weapon.

Underwater is a joke anyway, and arenanet doesn’t really care about making our skills fun or usefull :/

woah woah woah, youre clearly using it wrong, i use a power build and after ive done my spear burst ill switch to trident and begin to get 800 con dmg ticks, thats with no condmg specced for, its still OP in my opinion

same for me its locked, spend 100’s of pounds on this game, play for over 1500 hours and play WvW constantly and this is how they reward you -_-

Zelyhn.8069:

More and more I am experiencing this habit that the community has to despise people who claim to be skilled for this game.

Try it: go to LA, and say that you are a good player.

People will instantly tell you that you lack humility, that you are an elitist, that you are despicable etc; for no reason.

People do not want to see or be aware of the fact that some players can be more skilled than them (no boasting, just statement of skill). The community seem to believe that they would be better off without such players.
It appears as if the community would like to stay bad and play only with bad people.

It is also the same on the forums.

I believe this is not benefiting the game in itself because it promotes stale and boring gameplay additions rather than diverse and challenging content.

As a comparison: when you play football as an amateur you play it for fun and you dream of being as skilled as the players of international level. In GW2 the ’amateurs" have no such dreams, worse: they do not want to face the fact that being better is possible.

With all due respect, why the discrimination?

you have just summed up the entirety of several of my other posts xD
ive tried to get my point across but youve done it in ten times the less writing,
Im aguild leader and help out as many people in my guild as i can so please dont just shout elitist!! i need more challenging content in this game, it doesnt have to be required just as long as i can show off, i like seeing other people show off with items they have achieved i dont think of it as a one way thing like most people do, i like seeing people with things that i cant get,

This will make me go crazy and work extremely hard to et it and when i do i will show off like they did, this is a gap in gw2 and these players are the ones that have been left in the dark i know that the game was set at the start to be casual but surely they can cater even a small bit of the game to challenge seekers,
btw im not solo’ing lupi xD

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Wintersday

its not Seasonal?!?!?!??!
know your lore please (makes me cry :C)

oh @Lilith
Balthazar was like the referee strictly speaking :P, there was often a preist of balth or bodyguards

PvP Dailies are now given to actual pvp players and not people coming from pve for quick dailies? go to ascalon and get your lumberer daily and close this thread please its sad.

Lets nerf condi then shall we while taking a look at whether or not affect meta classes in PVP

Revenant – power based not affected
Theif – power based not affected
Engi – Power based not affected
Druid – power based not affected
ele – power based not affected
Guardian – not meta power based mostly not affected
warrior – not meta
necro – will be affeted, high power boon strip alt available
mesmer – will be affected

Very interesting, by your comment its clear what class youve just been beaten by and you are now coming to the forums to vent your frustration.

BeepBoopBop.5403:

lilypop.7819:

Yes that that is why PvP will never be popular in GW2. Such huge burst builds just wreck the low-level game. As for counters the trend now is for one-shots to tag-team up and blow player after player away, irrespective of player skill etc. Players leave PvP faster than the one-shooters rank up, low-rank Qs get longer and long because of the low-pop of low-level players.

The solution is to regressively cap burst damage by rank. That way high burst / glass cannon would not be an option at low levels, and consequently more players would have the time to learn – rather that merely grab there profession one-shot build from a web page – and progress up ranks.

As is, broken, with no evidence of any learning whatsoever from the devs over the last four or so years. The only thing keeping PvP afloat are the quick dailies, sans these. PvP is wasted pixels.

No

also no,

new players should be learning on a completely different meta?? because thats what it will be then they will have to change meta to fight better players? that sounds even more oppressive for newer players.

Yeah cool o.0 until you realise its just a giant thermometer

Thought id post a quick synopsis of my build
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=VW;4sP-9-f67QFx0;9;4T9-EE42A5;30;05;04o0;0w0-H9dZH9dZp-ki-M;17a;0aVdWjXn2v3-a0q-JF2e;5V05NV05N;9;9;9;9;7V6s5u
youll have to copy and paste into your URL bar