Guild Wars 2

function gyro is love
function gyro is life

please nerf easy to counter build so i don’t have to adapt my playstyle

i will never run a condi build and roll them. plz nerf

start using rocket charge to combo your fields. it will change everything.
& use that mortar, it’s dope.

i play a different cele scrapper build & nothing in pvp atm is causing me issues.

charchar.2149:

War damage is too high. The defense is fine.

full offensive stat amulet with offensive runes will result in high damage. try any class w zerker & pack & you will see it hits like a truck with an optimised build.

Solori expert potato farmer. these potatoes are hardly worth harvesting though, many look rotten to the core. a spoiled crop.

plus, there is going to be a grind for elite specialisations, so its grind for new stuff + grind for the old stuff we just took from you.

my opinion is simple, all existing 80s should be grandfathered in with full unlocks. they have to unlock elite specialisations, and that’s enough. let people play the game instead of grinding to play the game.

PrinceKhaled.5104:

choovanski.5462:

PrinceKhaled.5104:

choovanski.5462:

:-/

learn to dodge traps and your whole life will change.

Isn’t dodging the answer for everything? right?
Play versus DH with brains and sPvP, you will see that you can’t have 10 dodges in 2 seconds.
And yes, I was expecting the answer of “L2P” kind of thing.

You know what? just L2dodge and your life would be better….. how about that for an answer?

being emotional about not wanting to dodge traps is hardly becoming of you. quite frankly it just makes it look like you need to L2P even more.

Do you understand English? What are you talking about? Did I say I don’t want to dodge traps? Make sense please before you post crap…… or go defend and play your DH broken build in peace please.

why aren’t you dodging the taps then dude? like, why not. it’s not hard. they have activation times. they daze before damage so you even get an icon telling you to dodge. dragons maw even has an animation where you are fine until the jaws close. it’s not hard to dodge them tbh.

if you cared to read my signature you’d know that I play predominantly scrapper in PvP. can’t see why I would be defending DH for my own benifit when I’m on an engineer. but you got emotional and accused me of self serving bias. nice one.

PS. you don’t even need to dodge them on engi. sometimes I facetank traps and then just heal myself back to 100% with a rocket charge combo. haha. easy easy easy.

Doon.2364:

I think adrenaline should only decline to 50% out of combat like how the new Revenant has it. This is the best compromise. You still need to build adrenaline to maximize your burst at the same time you don’t lose everything you work for.

this would be ideal

what does ‘feel like wvw’ even mean? sure feels like wvw’ when me and the guild roll out to cap towers and stomp thieves.

Grimreaper.5370:

choovanski.5462:

ahahahahahaha

you must be new here

Nope… Just dont feel like giving up on being a broken record yet with the hope that one day maybe anet will get the message and at least consider it.

took anet years to get to pre HoT balance. we were almost good there, but then anet went for the power creep. given previous performance I’d say wait a minimum of two years, but another expansion is on the way. so, id say ‘give up all hope’.

as an ex warrior main, I can safely say anet is arrogant misguided and scrubby. warrior forum had so many revamps that would have fixed the class. anet chooses not to buff sustain because they are arrogant and useless. you know how they saying goes, you can lead an idiot to water but you can’t make him drink.

give up. PvP balance will just be ruined with the new expansion even if these fools could achieve it.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t everyone being carried by their builds?

engineer or mesmer tbh

I wish warrior was up there, but we were only allowed a brief period of being viable it seems.

why do thieves think stealth is their profession mechanic?

it’s just a unique buff like super speed. because of the advantages stealth provides in pvp counters beyond AOE spam are needed.

DrDivine.5378:

choovanski.5462:

DrDivine.5378:

choovanski.5462:

DrDivine.5378:

Kuya.6495:

DrDivine.5378:

If you want to bring ranks into it I’m legendary so knock yourself out lol

Oops youre a 1400 low gold rating. That’s a blatant lie. Ouch public ratings telling it like it is.

Obviously his alt account is in Legendary, duh :P

Oh yeah totally not legendary :o, these back pieces come from bronze

You’re Joking, right?

Actually no, I’m not lol feel free to correct me, these wings must be from bronze but what do I know right?

wings = everything i say is correct

Says person is not legendary and says they’re a liar, person shows item only attainable by legendary rank, gets mad

Yeah, sounds about right.

uh…. you know that you can get those wings w out playing this season at all right?
all you had to to do was grind the last seasons.

Uhh… you know it’s literally the same kitten every season and every season has the same reward and the same grind right?

Answer the question, do you need to be legendary to have the ascension?

the person who accused you of not being legendary was saying that in regard to this season. so no, you don’t need legendary this season to have those wings.

furthermore this season has been dramatically different from the previous ones, with different divisions & no 5 man queue. so obviously it’s not the same grind every season.

ergo, you’re deeply full of it.

SteepledHat.1345:

BrotherBelial.3094:

If you are getting killed by heaps, then you need to learn how to kite, or stop trying to facetank. It will not work.

Kiting around point as the score ticks. No other class has this level of control over a point.

good thing you can just dodge roll and stand inside ToF… which is the main trap you see.

also dude, you ever heard of necro wells?

Syde.5961:

I started pretty late in the season, but I’ve had no problem rising up in divisions…Of course, Warriors are currently under powered in this meta, but they aren’t useless. If you’re having trouble winning just b/c of a single class being on your team then I don’t think it’s the warrior’s fault that you’re losing.

why not? warrior brings nothing to the team apart from good damage, average single target CC, and poor survivability.

marauders scrapper is better at its job in every respect, and even has AOE heals, AOE stuns, AOE stealth, and other useful things for team fights.

having a warrior in your team is awful. it uses one of your limited slots, this is not WvW you can’t just add more and more people. you can only have 5 people in the team, and putting one of them on a class as bad as warrior is gimping the team.

warrior brings no value and has to be babysat. awful class.

I can 100-0 people with one grenade barrage and mortar was nerfed?

this is dumb. LA has no training dummies, and doesn’t use pvp stats so you can’t test builds. why the hell would i want to be there instead of HotM where i have both on those things.

im not object to a HotM revamp, but it’s really not what pvp needs. we need more maps and gamemodes before a better lobby.

feel like you don’t even understand how stances work if you think they are equivalent to engi and guardian invuns.

warrior stances don’t prevent cap for two reasons:
- because they are only an immunity to one type of damage
- they don’t prevent CC, so you can still decap (sure balanced stance is there for that, but it’s not worth when you have outrage + eternal champ. so you will never see it).

unblockable attacks are very common these days, most if not all classes have them or can swap them in easily.

@Silv any class w max health pool (necro and warrior) can play zerker amulet fine (although marauder is better on necro for the life force gain). HP is the only reason people use marauder.

all classes got big buffs, mostly to cc damage, blocks & heals. nearly all of the tanky amulets were deleted. it was pretty obvious pvp was going to get worse.
glory days of pre specialisations are long behind us.

anet will just keep pvp on life support & release another expansion to rebuild player base & generate hype. i hope its balanced w HoT so we get build diversity, if it’s another level of power creep it will kill pvp.

Puck.9612:

So you would either need to have someone sitting in a tower at all times to man guns, or make the guns automatic and powerful enough to take out any ship approaching which would make the ships pointless…. It feels like you didn’t really think this idea through before posting.

What’s next? Battle dinosaurs to activate a super weapon that will simultaneously fire lasers at all of the enemies objectives?

treb the AA then send in the airships. force fields and many other things are options too.

an EotM style map with much more space between islands, less bridges and airships would be amazing. build airships with supply, load up your guild group and fly to the enemy islands. midair boarding, crashes, guild fleets, so much potential for amazing moments.

Vapour.7348:

choovanski.5462:

take a hammer. shoutbow only has one stunbreak. give him a sit down.

Hello.

Yes the hammer cc chains are still a pain to go against. Before the popularity of the current shoutbow build, the last time I had fun with my warrior was with 100blades in 10v10 hotjoin zergs in 2012. I didn’t participate in the hambow bandwagon before the adrenaline nerf so I’m totally noob on what the hammer build is.

You seem to know a lot about warriors and pvp in general according to your forum posts. How many warrior builds do you currently run ATM in pvp? What was the standard hambow build and is it still effective?

at the current point in time not having one player on your team playing a shout build with soldiers runes is stupid. the group condition clear is just too important for teamfights. currently the meta favors warrior as their shouts have AOE heals instead of more condi clear and boons (guardian) or perma regn (ranger).

so, as a warrior you have to choose if you want to play the support bunker for teamfights or not. i run full healing shouts with sw/sh hammer and the valkyries amulet (imo better than cele if you dont use bow). it has many of the benefits of both shoutbow and hambow, and could also have the fire field but i choose against bow for numerous reasons. i run other warrior builds and play with others who run zerk ham GS to great effect, however with the current traits bunker is your best choice imo. with the new traits warrior bunkers will get significantly stronger, and it looks like zerker warrior will have a chance to be meta.

the old hambow build has problems when played in one of it’s two configurations. see, hambow has been run as either zerk or soldiers, zerker for more pressure or soldiers to become a bunker of sorts. it is here that the problem arises, when run as a bunker hambow has hardly any team support at all, only might and warbanner. this is why the build has fallen out of favour, bunkers should have support because they are designed to teamfight and support increases the survivability of both the bunker and their team. warriors hammer allows you to peel (using cc to keep enemies off allies), and this is a must if you are teamfighting, but it’s not enough for a dedicated bunker to just have peels they need strong AOE support also.

now that’s not to say don’t run hambow, just that it should be run with a more offensive amulet or as the teams off-bunker (back up bunker, perhaps to hold home). it’s a strong build with lots of personal survivability. traits wise it runs 00626 with three stances as utilities, and the normal HS warbanner combo warriors use nearly always in pvp. depending on the amulet taken (something like barbarians would not need these, but soldiers would) intelligence sigils will be used. the traits it runs are straightforward, either being warrior staples (dogged march, CI, WS, burst mastery, destruction of the empowered) or taken to improve the hammer (merciless hammer, leg specialist).

i would suggest using both hammer and shouts if you want to bunk, especially with the new traits. i have theorycrafted a seriously disgusting warrior bunker for the new traits that i think has a high chance of making meta. base 2k power + aoe 370 power and 150 condition damage is pretty ruthless.

Knighthonor.4061:

choovanski.5462:

yes. that would suck. currently all of engineers weapons are viable and distinct. i would rather hammer be a strong choice as opposed to the best choice.

There can only be one on top. I rather it be Hammer Melee.

Come on people, Melee hammer time would be pretty much elite,, literally …. Hehe

I want heavy burst /defense

Or heavy burst/ support

Or heavy burst /CC.

well, considering rifle, p/s and p/p are all viable currently having hammer being OP to the point where you have to use it and the elite specialisation would suck. it can be great, because rifle and pistol are great- but I definitely don’t want it to be better. I don’t want to be forced to use the elite spec for any class. they should be alternatives not upgrades.

now, don’t go thinking i’m not pumped ive got three engineers and my favourite weapon in the game is warrior hammer. I’m pumped as hell, and engineer hammer is the only thing apart from guild halls i even care about in HoT. i expect the hammer to have a minimum of 2ccs and a leap, as both warrior and guardian hammer both have these but im open to anything with a bit of stunlock.

I’m surprised it’s taken people this long to start doing this. cut the head off the snake, it’s an age old tactic and a really good one.

killshot warriors with piercing are becoming cool on my sever (CD) should be seeing a lot more dead commanders with those around.

so i just played the build for a few matches, and you can often push far so hard you win. had a nice game with my guild where we won with the other team getting less than 100. people seem to suck at killing you. i kill turret engis all the time, especially in 2v1s (some of them were stupid long) but the general population seems to suck at it. nobody dodges overcharges (even tho the turrets glow and shake) and only a few people went for rocket turret first. i think the problem for the average player is you use a sentinel amulet and have a lot of cc. you take so long to kill for most players that you will almost always be able to sunchain them. most players end up getting ping ponged and die. that’s why the build makes them so mad, it’s just like decap but defensive. people hate being killed by cc.

i want to say most people are bad, but i have a lot of hours on cele engi and other classes. so there is a chance that i could be outplaying them. regardless people suck at fighting it, and there are like no condi builds so engi is super viable. engi seems strong because people are no running counters (condi) because of cele ele and shout warrior (double queue with two condi builds could acc be really strong, as you could outcondi spam even shout warriors and eles). you could nerf turret engi, but idk how- people are not trying to kill my turrets, so less hp wouldn’t be a big deal, and if you nerf damage then running sentinel with kits seems like a better option and that would be equally aggravating for the community. it’s never not going to be hard to kill because it goes into defensive trait lines and uses the sentinel amulet, and it’s that comboed with the cc that makes the build strong. you can achieve the same amount of cc without turrets tho, and that would be at least equally hard to deal with.

just try condi and realise that all your engi qq had a really easy solution. power builds suffer against the defensive stats much more, so the engi has more time to cc the attacker. more time means more time to screw up. the attacker is probably more glassy. the more glassy you are the worse it is when you make mistakes. abundant cc punishes mistakes really hard. so the attacker will most likely make mistakes and loose.

were you just trying to come up with the most unlikely elite specialisation?

Jelle.2807:

Boggs.6482:

ErazorZ.5209:

we just want arenas or more cap point maps, i play guildwars2 because i dont want to play dota style maps and now with stronghold your forcing a bandwagon upon us probably because of investors

Bring on the arenas! Seriously you could take black citadel’s bane, set up a simple annhiliation round system and bam, new arena gamemode.

Wtf lol. Suggesting anet uses already existing game assets to implement the 2v2/3v3 arena everyone is asking for? Wow, you must think they are sensible or something.

gosh! a 1v1 mode!

it’s not like we’ve been asking for this for 4 years, the Devs are sure to implement this!

he nailed it.

you’ll be seeing me on scrapper for a long time to come.

Roe.3679:

choovanski.5462:

won a nice 2v1 in edge yesterday, used the full 1500 range for it and other roaming. was also using 1500 range when defending a keep in ebg also. reducing the range to 900 would be a massive nerf and would remove many play styles. I would not have been able to pull off many of the things I was able to. 900 range is not useful, it’s too low and you get ‘out of range’ notifications often. any engineer who does wvw will not appreciate them being nerfed out of relevance.

You could have the mortar instead for roughly the same purpose.

how good will mortar be for condi? will it have a minimum range? what about supply crate? mortar has been a joke since launch, i have no idea how good it will be. it might fire slow and do single high damage shells making is useless for condi or hybrid builds. plus you now have to give up supply crate. it’s a big trade off for a complete unknown.

¯\(?)/¯

scrubs? tbh, can’t say I’ve ever understood it either. damage is damage, idk why anyone thinks they should just be able to ignore it.

depends if you’re having fun with the game dude

TL;DR

owned again by a DH ;_;
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DH gets nerfed every patch. reaper and scrapper are much more powerful and faceroll currently. DH has no presence in pro play either, and it was just nerfed again despite this.

guardian has always been the easiest class in the game to play, and will continue to be so. but one class must be the easiest, it just has to be that way. you can’t have nine classes and not have one be the easiest. regardless, if the skill difference between you and the DH who is rolling your face on the floor is a big as you think it is you wouldn’t be losing. you would be able to outplay and beat them.

DH is a damage spec with minor support. it has good ranged single target damage, and short bursts of CC and AOE damage. it has a defined role and play style. but it is very beatable, hence why it’s not seen in pro teams.

wipe 10s off the fear me CD. an unblockable AOE fear than you can trait to shoutheal is. gold. all it needs is a shorter CD.

engineer and warrior. they feel very physical and thumpy.

considering blocks and evades stop condi damage just like power, and that cleanses are more common than invuns it seems like condi damage is easier to counter than power. it’s not like you can press a button after you get hit by a power damage skill not to take the damage, like you can do with condis.

it’s obvious you just want to rant and rave. all you are going to get L2P because you’re posting in the forum of a class that was just nerfed out of the tournament meta.

so I ask, why bother? why actually bother with this? why not just yell at your own reflection in the mirror, it’s just as productive, and will get you to the same place posting in the forum will, nowhere.

so, like I get it you’re salty and mad and just want to plug your ears and yell ‘OP PLZ NERF’, but dude why do you think doing that in the warrior forum is worthwhile?

PowerBottom.5796:

I agree with the overall sentiment of your proposed changes, but I would implement them a bit differently:

1) Scrapper has too high sustain, and/or too high dps.
- Reduce healing of rapid regeneration by 20%.
- Increase shock shield CD from 20 to 25 seconds
- Reduce DMG of rocket charge by 20%

2) The Reaper obviously has too much DMG and too much application of different conditions. Chill is one of the main offenders here for sure:
- Reduce Chill DMG by 20%
- Reduce Chill DMG scaling with condition DMG a bit

3) The new Pets for the Druid deal too much dps, but the Druid itself has a very low DMG output. This is one reason why Druid feels so gimmicky and bad in teamfights:
- Reduce DMG for Bristle F2 and Smokescale Smoke Assault by 20%.
- Increase Staff AA DPS by 10%
- Vine Surge on Staff applies 2 stacks of bleeding for 10 seconds

wow! some actually suggesting nerfing scrapper instead of butchering core engi.

yeah, reduce hammer damage mildly.
a rapid rgn nerf without increasing its healing power scalling is unreasonable, the pulsing might trait is better imo anyhow.

necro needs condi nerfs for sure.

druid pet damage is fine. ranger pets being good for once is nice.

glaphen.5230:

choovanski.5462:

glaphen.5230:

choovanski.5462:

glaphen.5230:

choovanski.5462:

http://youtu.be/EedZ5kFAvSw

watch this. you’ll feel a bit silly when you realise how easy the traps are to avoid.

This video is a load of bullkitten. 1, none of this is on points, you can avoid the traps all you want but the traps are still there besides Fragments which is still there giving him 5 stacks of Aegis. He says the daze is an identifier but never actually shows it once in the entire video. He only dodges the maw because he knows it’s coming, he doesn’t dodge the maw animation, he dodges any trap animation, good thing the DH wasn’t hitting him with his weapons at the same time or any allies at all on the map. He says melee pressure but hurrpy durrpy durrp the only problem is the weak kitten traps and daze spam and knockbacks at melee range. You go ranged and his weapon is better than the rest of the range weapons since True Shot has low cooldown compared to volleys, a projectile destroying attack every 10 seconds and more basic attack damage the rest of weapons besides 1k plus range Ranger LB that does around the same.

i feel like I understand why you complain on the forums all the time.

you’re not observant & your problem solving skills & defeatist attitude will take you nowhere.

Great counter argument there. Try linking the video again maybe it will work this time.

I’m not here to make you better at pvp. I actually don’t care if you lose all the time.
it’s not my problem that you can’t extract any useful information from the video. I’ve been able to learn from it and use it to improve my play and so have many others. I’m not having any problems with dragon hunter, but you are. refusing to learn won’t make you eat any less dirt.

Video doesn’t teach a single thing.

¯\(?)/¯

the only person you’re hurting is yourself

yeah, it’s dumb/

goodbye 1500 range rocket boots bby i still <3 u

Rozbuska.5263:

Gating hammer behind clearly defensive traitline while it have awesome offensive capabilites is incredibly bad decision.

why you would ever think it wouldn’t be locked behind the specialisation is beyond me. all the other specialisations are required to use their weapon, why would engineer be an exception?

fools! gaint drill is the way to go!

the drill that will pierce the Heavens!

Entenkommando.5208:

Elxdark.9702:

rip engis.

So true.
All that is left now is massive heals, literally endless defense with dodges/blocks, endless condition spamming combined with quite high condi damage, very good direct damage and a kitten load of cc/kd.

This nerf is definitly not fair for engis. I mean, what shall they do now???

absolutely keen to see this endless dodges/blocks build. please link

Provost.6210:

Yes, I’m salty about trolls.

too salty to have fun it seems. if you can’t handle trolls the Internet and online games are going to be no fun for you

Aerosmith’s Dream On Starts Playing

oh hey, it’s this discussion again

People always complain about the current meta & idolize rose tinted memories of old metas.

obviously warrior rifle

kdaddy.5431:

If i was to make a tier list it would go

A- necro- rev- scrapper

B-Druid-Ele

C-DH

D- Mesmer

E-Warrior

F- Thief

And unlike pre HOT there are no counter builds. If the players are of equal skill, IMO this is how the fights should go down.

uhhh really.. thief bellow warrior?

regardless, all classes need to be brought to DH level to keep the game sane. I would say theif was there already, with only mes and warrior below. theif is very strong if you’re not bad, and DH is strong vs bads. both feel similarly strong (don’t bring up the fact medi guard counters theif. this has been around for years and does not mean it’s a better class. just that the 1v1 is mechanically squed).

druid and ele are strong, but not problematically so. not like top three. this is mostly due to holding support roles, as opposed to God mode bruiser.

I take it you’ve never used speech to text before….

because I have, and so have many others- and trust me when I say is not that functional. especially with low quality mics and accents. seriously watch YouTube with CC on, it’s a good laugh.

while we are at it can we also make a change so if i eat a mesmer’s shatter combo i take less damage because I don’t like to loose?

you see, i dont like to take blocks or invuns in my build & i just hate learning tells & timing my dodges. so I’m wanting a nerf so i can perform better without improving my skills. basically i just don’t like having to react to a mesmers burst, but i also don’t like getting killed by it so i think it should be nerfed.