Guild Wars 2

So, the Tengu have an airship? This Zephyr Sanctum? I’m guessing at least by the name. I thought those were relatively new inventions by the Pact…

Even if they are totally different make and model, still kinda weird if the Tengu had an airship first.

But “woot!” for achievement points finally getting a use. I’m hoping that the different skins are unlimited like the HoM ones.

It does also seem strange that he would mention the Splintered Coast and Port Stalwart on one breath if they were both in roughly the same place. That suggests to me they’re in different locations.

I’m not sure if it’s any help in finding the place, but Raid on the Capricorn seems to take place in Port Stalwart.

The most likely answer would be to send troops somewhere else. I’d imagine that the coast of the Sea of Sorrows had a lot of bodies, and possibly magical artifacts, for the taking – it would probably have been a relatively low-investment operation for Zhaitan to send minions to seize those bodies and magic items,, overrun any strongpoints they may have, and then redeploy them to somewhere that Zhaitan considered to be more important.

Since the western coast of the Sea of Sorrows apparently remained unsettled until the sylvari started to drop from the tree, and there’s limited apparent defensive benefit to Orr for holding the territory, it’s probably that Zhaitan didn’t have any reason to return until he learned that a new civilisation had arisen on that coast – and one that believed it had a manifest destiny to fight the dragons, to boot.

Specifically, into the Krytan hills- meaning it has to be somewhere along the northern half of the coastline of the Sea of Sorrows. It’s also described as six days’ voyage from LA. Comparing that with the 8 week figure from LA to Kaineng, and using the world map lifted from the Chantry of Secrets, that would place it either just north of the Grove or along Sparkfly Fen. Given that it was attacked by the Risen, I’m in favor of the later.

Some pretty significant Sea of Sorrows spoilers, I’ll just block out the whole thing;

I really think it’s somewhere to the West of Rata Sum, would love to have a dev chime in, or even Ree herself.

Edit: Thinking further, since the Sylvari have not awakened at the time of Sea of Sorrows, I suppose it’s possible Port Stalwart could be in Caledon Forest, and has just been retaken by the jungle by the time of the game.

The Dominion of Winds will have been established roughly around the events of the book, so I don’t think it’s that far north.

Port Noble was on Laughing Gull Island – Taidha Covington’s harbour is described by that name in the meta-event.

So I had only a step away on my ranger from Battle for Claw Island, so I did it and started Claw Island. Here’s what I got:

The window after the one Narcemus posted has Talon saying this: “They saw what Orrian invasions did to Port Noble and Port Stalwart. Someone had to stand their ground.”

Also, fun fact: while the map doesn’t show area names, there are four areas in the Claw Island map. Sorrow’s Bay (where you start), Western Strait (I’ll let you guess where – hint, the entire left part of the map), Lion’s Mane (southeastern beach), and, get this, Fort Stalwart! Where the fortress of Claw Island is.

Ten bucks says that Fort Stalwart was built over Port Stalwart’s ruins. But according to Talon, Port Stalwart was attacked – and implicably majorly – during Cobiah’s lifetime, and he was alive when Zhaitan rose.

So I guess Forgal is roughly 100 years old. (edit: fixing math fail)

Now the question is: Where is Port Noble?

Also, I have a suspicion that the attacks on Port Noble and Port Stalwart would be the battle depicted in the 2009 trailer – maybe the eyepatch guy was Cobiah? Or a main character in Sea of Sorrows?

I just so happened to have that storyline up right now. I went and checked and this is what I got.

I had the impression that Port Stalwart’s destruction was more recent than that. Forgal was present for it, and while he’s old even by norn standards, he also says that he was in Port Stalwart when it fell “years ago” rather than “decades”.

I think the Priory leadup to Claw Island also implies it happened more recently, but that hasn’t been fully transcribed to the wiki.

Still, it wouldn’t surprise me if it shows up in SoS.

Given the description, I think that it’d be closer to Orr than Claw Island – as Claw Island was made after the fall of Port Stalwart, so unless it fell then the Risen got pushed back (which I doubt, personally), it couldn’t be closer to Orr than that.

I had thought that it was where Fort Trinity was built upon, given this line by Trahearne: "I know a ruined fort on the coast of Orr. It will take work to make it defensible, but from there we can strike directly at the heart of Zhaitan’s forces. " at the end of Retribution. Description fits, but in Forging the Pact he calls the place “the Terzetto site.”

@drax: I wouldn’t label out the Dominion of Winds. Keep in mind that Fort Stalwart fell shortly after Orr rose – and the tengu had to fight through Zhaitan’s forces. Meaning that Fort Stalwart might have fell before the tengu made the Dominion of Winds.

Edit: As just shown to me by Thalador:
http://www.amazon.com/Guild-Wars-Sorrows-Ree-Soesbee/dp/1416589627

The lost kingdom of Orr lies beneath the ocean waves, an entire civilization swallowed by an ancient cataclysm. For centuries, the depths have lain dormant, those ancient secrets lost. Until now. The Elder Dragon Zhaitan has risen. In its wake, the drowned kingdom of Orr is reborn—and another destroyed. The city of Lion’s Arch, for generations a cornerstone of civilization in Tyria, is brutally swept beneath the waves, leaving nothing but ruins. Among the survivors is Cobiah Marriner, a human sailor shipwrecked by the tsunami and stranded at sea. When he is rescued by a ferocious charr, Cobiah knows that he’s been plunged into a world forever changed. Now, Zhaitan’s undead servants dominate the sea, destroying port after port and slaughtering anything in their path. In the midst of ruin, Cobiah vows to see Lion’s Arch rebuilt. Amid the storm of the dragon’s rising, Cobiah must become a hero to his crew and an admiral to the pirate fleet, and face the ghosts of his past. Only then will he master the Sea of Sorrows and crush the armada of Orr.

I suspect we’ll find out about Port Stalwart in the third novel, may even be a main focus.

Simple question every time they go on about the scout of Zhaitan it’s about how he was spotted in that city before it was sacked. But what city was this? Was it even of any importance or just a glorified fishing village? Any ruins anywhere to visit?

I think FlamingFoxx was mistaking the Caudecus Manor storyline as Caudecus aiding the Separatists (with Uzolan), and Caudecus is in cahoots with bandits and possibly White Mantle.

Eh, no. I picked the most muscular physique for my warrior and believe me she is as flat as a girl can get. I think there’s also a few skinny physiques that are that way.

It’s just that the big majority of people (or at least the male players) will automatically pick busty physique when making a female character.

Which is fine it’s their character they should make them look good. At the very least a character should look good to the player behind them.

Why is every female toon D+ size, it as if flat are non existing.

Got two precursors in 2 days out of the Mystic Forge spending only 60g between the two. Just wanted you all to hate me

UPDATE: JUST Spent 180g on Rare Greatswords and got Dawn. 3 Precursors in 4 days

UPDATE 2: Just bought 500 Rare Rifles. Got THE HUNTER after i threw about 52 in.

UPDATE 3: Screenshots of my selling History for PROOF.

UPDATE 4: After spending roughly 350g I have Forged “The Legend”. Picture 5 shows it in my Chat.

UPDATE : YES I WILL CONTINUE TO UPDATE EVERY TIME I FIND ONE. This just in, DUSK. Picture included.

UPDATE 5/6: Found “Spark” again.

UPDATE 7: Today i got “Dusk” again from the Forge.

Hehe, lucky. Congrats. Why would we hate you? I’m really glad for you.

Maybe not to compare really, but, last night, I had one uni dye in the backpack. Was thinking of selling it but decided to open it. And got abyss dye. 20g right there. Not bad.

The women walk away from the battle unscathed. Glad that Jormag took care of their annoying husbands and are all currently drinking a pint to Jormag in the far North, a women only festival.

Men are believed to be the weaker sex after all… x) and judging from Jora’s story, the same applies to Norn as does with Humans!

Well in Eye of the North Jora is able to resist the lust for power that one of Jormag’s champions radiates, while her brother is consumed by it. However, it did break her bond with her totem animal, making it impossible for her to transform. Maybe Norn women in general are resilient to his influence, and die in the process of resisting him.

Ugh what if Jormag is giving the women to the svanir for their services?
Thanks for the replies, at first I was meh about the idea but I’m starting to really want to read the kitten books :P

I was going to jokingly suggest Jormag and its minions turns them into broodmothers, Dragon Age-style, but then I imagined that…

…and got very nauseous.

Well I would assume that he might use them as his personal sex toys but I could possibly be wrong.

No, it’s from the Edge of Destiny novel. The exact quote: “The men return… as frozen icebrood. The women return… not at all.” And it is also true that we see no female norn icebrood, save perhaps the ones in such an advanced state of corruption that gender is no longer identifiable.

As to what happens to them, well, you have the right of it: we have no idea. We know for a fact that female kodan and, iirc, quaggans can be corrupted, we know we do not see corrupted female norn, and that’s more or less it. In a earlier thread on this topic that the crap search function can’t find, I know it was suggested that the female icebrood might be held back to avoid upsetting the Sons of Svanir, but I personally am not well enough versed in the topic to hold an informed opinion.

Was reading through some of the articles on the wiki and got really into it when I came across this particular passage in the Jormag article:

“Whenever a group of norn attack Jormag or its champions, the men always return as icebrood, attacking the source of the group of norn in revenge; however, female norn never return. It is unknown what happens to them.”

I realise we probably don’t know the answer to the question I posed in the title but what I really wanted to ask was where did that information come from and is it legit?

Well first off, thank you Quartz! It is about darn time we had something that made the Home Instances worth something.

Content being released every two weeks: Sounds like an interesting experiment, but I’ll wait until a month before I officially think its awesome or suckage.

I like the idea of travelling merchants in the air. Maybe I’ve been re-watching Airbender too much and fallen in love with the concept of Air Nomads.

The biggest highlight for me is the Achievements finally getting some rewards.
Overall I’m still slightly optimistic, I really do think they’ve started making positive strides ever since Dragon Bash for this Living Story stuff. Southsun was the nice turning point for them.

From a WvW PoV (what little experience I have in that) I’m glad the siege builders and repair folks are getting some mastery love too. Now I can spend my points in something I like.

jweez.7214:

Why does “Four Winds” make you think Tengu? I am interested because I do not know much about them other than they are birds.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tengu

Modern tengu that live within the Dominion of Winds have long since put aside their differences and now live under four houses – North, South, East, and West. These four houses are named after the winds, and were created to unify the tengu while allowing them to preserve their clans’ unique cultures.

The Tengu basically set themselves up into four houses, named after the winds. i.e. “Four Winds”. Their home is known as the “Dominion of Winds”, so naturally a release with “wind” in the name will bring Tengu speculation.

That’s basically why.

The Great Zehtuka, surely!?

Considering that Koss and his companions took down a God, Id put my vote in for Koss.

Bander.5194:

Except that’s Canthan history, not Tyrian. Unless Tyrians claim that as their own, which I’m not sure any do.

Drakenvold.9761:

Tyria the world i think,thats what he meant,is Shiro undisputed in this claim?

Tyria is both the name of the continent that GW2 (as well as the first GW1 campaign, Prophecies) takes place on, AND it’s the name of the whole world.

As I’m not well-versed in the lore outside of the actual games, I won’t try to partake in the debate; just wanted to answer that question.