Look. Anet is just doing what the loud forum majority wanted. When people said “dungeons suck because spider queen” they listened. And when we dungeon forum regulars told them this very change was not a solution they called us dumb elitists. Just like the bloodstone dust nerf. You asked. They delivered.
And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.
Don’t worry, it’s just basic security measures.
I was going for a detective look
Head piece: Reading Glasses
Shoulders: Hidden
Chest Piece: Trickster’s Vest
Gloves: Aurora Gloves
Leggings: Illustrious Breeches
Boots: Winged BootsPlease write me a story with those screens.
Hehe
Aww but I suck at writing stories.
Haha aw. Guess I’ll just have to imagine one.
So I got bored and made this poorly written comic xD
Not sure why they’d change Malrona’s projectile AOE to be unreflectable. An overpowered and hard to dodge skill requiring an existing skill mechanic to avoid for newer players (considering it’s a level 55 dungeon).
Way to punish ingenuity.
Where did I put my bingo card…
It’s actually very easy.
Cryhards:
-Easy=poorly designed
-Medium=non existant
-Hard=badly designed
Dundun forum regulars:
-Easy=Badly designed
-Medium=Easy
-Hard=Nonexistant
Reddit:
-Easy=Upvote
-Medium=Fluffy? Upvote:Downvote;
-Hard=Downvote.
Guang:
-Easy=It’s easy but you suck.
-Medium=You suck
-Hard=Too hard for you, you suck.
I don’t see the relevance of the picture you attached. With such a massively populated server and WvW population, shouldn’t you be depicting yourselves as the Persian army instead? They had the numbers, and in the end, they won because of it.
The problem with necros being a vuln bot isn’t that vuln bots aren’t needed,
Funny thing: vuln bots aren’t needed.
it’s that engineers are better vuln bots and also have better DPS, better CC, can give stealth, etc. Necromancers are basically stuck in the same pigeonhole as Engineers except Engineers do everything better.
Same can be said to engineers and thieves/eles in dungeons.
Maybe learn to play the class properly then we can talk about who is better at what.
I’d absolutely love to set up a challenge between us two on who’s better playing engi. We could have the forum to decide and officially shame the losing one. Doesn’t that sound nice?
Oh dear me.
I have sat for the last couple of months watching. Watching idiots spray their ignorant kitten across these forums like they’re hosing down open world content with their ‘healing’ ele’s water fields.
And I have sat and watched. But this. This is an artwork. This thread has evolved into something else. Something beyond any of my wildest dreams.
I’m here to tell you (if you haven figured it out already) that you have done a marvellous job of making the entire community align to hate you. This includes myself, and I’m a very loving person in general.
Yours in parting.
-Grandmaster Mind Brain.
The berserker gear is fine.
People are making threads for nearly one year about the berserker gear being bad. The recent modifications to the crit damages made low level dungeons easier and higher level dungeons harder.
People keep complaining about the fact that there are lots and lots of lfgs requiring the participants to use berserker gear (or equivalent, like assassin). What I see is indeed a lot of lfgs at a single time that require berserker gear. But when I look closer, I see that the ones that don’t require a berserker gear are filling much more quickly. So what do we learn from this? That a lots of berserker gear-oriented people are willing to create lfgs and people with other types of equipment barely create any lfg and when they do, they immediately fill. If I count, there are, over time, less lfgs for berserker gear as there are without any indication.
What I see also is a lot of complains about the reward should be compensated in regards to the risk, and since there are no risks in this game, people should all get the same rewards. Well, actually there is a risk. Yes, I am a berserker elitist in this game and I try to pull the general level of the gamers to better skills. I pay the hard price for it:
- I often pug and all I get, even in “berserker only” parties are guys with PVT, guys with other kind of gears. It takes me a good time to get an acceptable party according to my basic requirements. So I lose time.
- Also, when I don’t gearcheck, those substandard players (not only because they’re in not-zerker but also because they don’t read and join my group anyways) get me downed because the fights last too long. I’m not an über-skilled player: I’m an okay player and I can compensate most of the failures of the rest of my party, but certainly not all. So I lost time as well.
So please, all of you that don’t like the berserker “meta” is because:
- you don’t see enough non-“zerker only” lfgs. Solution? Be quicker at joining groups or create your very lfg.
- you don’t want to increase your chance of bad groups by joining non-zerker meta. Solution? Create your lfg.
- you don’t want to uplevel your skill to an acceptable level. Solution? Before going to zerker, use the trait builds that zerkers use and improve yourself with that, then switching to zerker is only a question of time.
- you’ve been in a trinity system for too long and cannot think outside the box like GW2 forces you. The gear is not the build. The gear is a tool for your build. Solution: open your mind and learn to play GW2 for being GW2, not another MMO.
- you don’t want to be forced into zerker gear. Solution? No one actually forces you! Create your lfg and leave us zerker elitists together.
- your partner in a dungeon says you to use zerker and gives you clues about your class and you don’t like it because “I play how I want” and mostly because you don’t like being shown in what is regarded as wrong. Solution? Be humble and listen to him. Don’t think that you know everything, because… you don’t. Be critic, give his advice a try or two and keep using what you’re comfortable with.
So while we all wait for ArenaNet to actually make challenging content that doesn’t need a 5 hours learning phase, bear with us, live with us and up your level.
“But I don’t want that, I want zerker to be nerfed now.”
Then your cause is lost. Go play cards.
What is it to you ? Where does that impact your quality of life ? Not being able to boast in front of newer players is not exactly “quality of life”, fyi. I had most of those, I don’t even care if they’re released again.
All of that is just plain elitism. “I have this because I bought the game earlier, you can’t and I don’t want you to have it because you bought it later so you can’t have it”, and that’s IT. You can still use it, it will still be as nice as before. Yep, maybe will you see a bit more, so what, does that matter to you, do your character gets uglier with it ? Wanna get something exclusive ? Buy Chaos of Lyssa, there you go.
For christmas I’d like to get a crossbow for my characters.
With love, a cute kitty.
“I bought something to abuse a bug, but it’s been fixed! Wahhh”
- OP 2014
“Dear ANet, nerf Paper, Scissors is fine. Sincerely, Rock”
Elysaurus | Warrior | [LOL] | League of the Legendary | Gandara (EU)
And once again rT show their inability to offer actual proof by uploading a bad run where ranged classes suicided themselves on Belka’s shield, where a ranger didn’t even make the skip to abomination, where scholar buff was poorly maintained in general, a completely unremarkable Lupicus, a disaster at Alphard, a sketchy skip to Brie with low stealth uptime and an average Brie.
You’ve argued relentlessly with Guang for pages and pages and pages on end, so when he says “run this comp and tell me how it goes”, kitten well you should take it seriously and get a good, solid video of it out so that we can all get a good gauge of how well the composition performs, not a run where people are faceplanting all over the place and making silly mistakes.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think an engi fits in a p2 speed clear composition myself, but if you want to prove that, don’t post a bad video and then go hurrr lol guang ur wrong and sit there brofisting each other, it’s sad, pathetic and you should all be ashamed of yourselves for the complete joke that you’ve all turned this thread in to- and bloody well not the funny type, it’s embarrassing to read.
So here’s what I recommend.
Get serious, get five people willing to bring their A-game and post a smooth p2 run with the Guang composition. This doesn’t mean perfect, just smooth. Then we can analyse the parts where an engineer is insufficient and where X class would have been better, and we can also analyse the bonuses an engineer brought and why it was better for them to be there than Y class.
This is just my opinion, not that of Death and Taxes as a whole.
I am a new player, but a gaming vet. I am very thankful we have elite players who post up guides and videos on gearing, speed runs so I can study up on trash runs and boss animations, and generally commentary on class rankings and party composition.
Because its not actually any fun to spend 2 hours in a dungeon with a bunch of clueless semi anonymous apes with marginal critical thinking and learning capacity. Ar least by running proper gearing choices and build, with a few select utilities I can feedback some big damage, port them past the jumping puzzle deathtrap and then provide approx 50% of the dps for the bosses – meaning it only takes 35 mins in LFG.
Thank you so called elitists for the resources you provide, to those of us who are paying attention but don’t have a ton of time to theorycraft/test/publish.
Theorycraft the way you want
This thread is the worst thing since atse
It still might get worse!
This thread is the worst thing since atse
Subject Alpha from p2. Self imposed restrictions:
- no dodging
- no healing
- full glass cannon
- melee weapons (no fgs)
- asura chars only
Hey guys, I (Dazed, the creator of the spreadsheet) submitted a post in the bug forums regarding this exact issue:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Fractal-drops-were-broken-on-the-3-18-patch/first
Please have a look and show your support.
I myself have stopped playing due to there not being any difficult/rewarding content and the way Anet has handled this issue, they really dont seem to care about anything but LS/Gem store items.
I submitted a ticket a while back about the drop-rates, got one response from player support saying he would forward the issue on to one of the devs followed by multiple copy pasta responses:
“Hello Daniel,
Thank you for contacting us once more regarding the issue you were experiencing.
I understand that it can be frustrating not to see immediate results based on your in-game or forum report. Keep in mind that even if we are able to verify a bug report, it can take time to fully kitten the issue, develop a means to amend it, and then implement that “bug fix” into the game. The exact amount of time can vary widely based on the severity and complexity of each issue.
It is important to remember that in-game bug reports go directly to our Quality Assurance Team for investigation. Such reports provide information that allows the team to verify and reproduce the issue. In addition, the team regularly reviews the Game Bugs sub-forum of the Guild Wars 2 Forums ( http://support.guildwars2.com/forum/support/bugs ) for bug reports, as well.
If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us."
It kills me that GW2 was designed to be such a wonderful game, but at some point, the devs simply stopped giving a flying kitten about anyone but casual players. I’ll be moving on to bigger/better things. If/When they decide to produce/support interesting content I’ll start playing again.
Hope to be seeing Tyria again soon…
(edited by Dan Daze.9854)
I wonder wut y’all going to say when they nerf fgs.
“Ele sucks, X class super gud super efficient, the others are bad! And I’ve been saying this all the time, AND I WAS FIRST!!!!”
Then I’m pretty sure someone will come up with the revolutionary idea rangers or random x class will be worth taking, and then maybe someone will actually bother to l2p said class.
This fgs mania is really starting to look ridiculous. I shiver if I think that those kitten playhowiwants may have a point when they say it’s borderline exploitish. It’s lame, it’s become a stupid thing to behold because it’s completely out of line with other skills -damage-wise.
/avoids kitten flying around
No, no, don’t fling that stuff at me. I know you’re awesome and all, we’re all just poor peasants in front of your awesomeness.
Still, it looks stupid. I tried some dungeons superl33t style with 2-3 ellys and it felt so kittened… I don’t really know how you can endure the boredom of playing the superl33t comp, seriously. I guess you don’t play for… wait for it, wait for it…
Nah, nevermind <3 Lav you.
FGS spamming is the whole reason I avoid doing organised dungeon runs like the plague. How can someone demonstrate their skill when half the fights boil down to press 4 before it kills us? Doing dungeons solo, low man or pugging allows you to test your ability to react, adapt and how consistent you are with your damage mitigation since fights take longer. I dunno. I’m not going to say I play for fun and FGSers play for $$$ since there are people who enjoy melting hp bars like that, but while I found it cool at first it got boring for me after a while. This is probably the most carebearish thing ive wrote in months and almost sounds PHYW. meh.
“Hey, we fixed your Warden!” – “Great, nothing changed, and also reflects are broken.”
“Hey, we fixed your fractal drops!” – “Great, they are now lower.”
“Hey, we fixed the Mystic Forge!” – *Great, now I get a 76 piece from 4 80s"
Updated every Monday
play the game to play the game; don’t play it to get drops, or you will always be disappointed.
this concept is part of Basic Gambling 101Disagree. We play this game to play, sure, but there is nothing fun about busting your rear in a level 49 fractal and getting nothing, over and over and over again. The drop rates are broken. They need to be fixed. Or even acknowledged.
Is there a reason this isn’t in the Dungeon forums? (In before move).
The devs never read the dungeon forums, if there is a chance of this ever getting fixed, it must be elsewhere.
yeah, one of the big issues i have with these things, is when they are broken, nobody checks, until there is a public outcry. One would think they were keeping some of their own actual data, and could see when trends werent occuring as planned.
e.g. The Scarlet Slaying potions. All slaying potions were broken until they released new ones specifically for the LS and they were broken as well.
Berserker = Skilled http://i.imgur.com/g1rkIub.jpg
Never forget – http://i.imgur.com/Oxra9sj.jpg
play the game to play the game; don’t play it to get drops, or you will always be disappointed.
this concept is part of Basic Gambling 101
Disagree. We play this game to play, sure, but there is nothing fun about busting your rear in a level 49 fractal and getting nothing, over and over and over again. The drop rates are broken. They need to be fixed. Or even acknowledged.
And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.
Good Morning Devs,
I just wanted to say that you have finally broken my will to continue with fractals.
To quote the 3/18 patch notes:
“- Ascended armor and weapons now drop more often from all levels of fractals, particularly as the fractal level increases.
- Ascended armor pieces will drop more often than ascended weapons."
Thanks to the guys and gals in [LOD] Legion of Doom, [SC] Snow Crows (EU), [ZoS] Zealots of the Shiverpeaks, [Keen] Commander Keen (EU) for putting together this document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av4NvDVKEaOzdHJPaTlsRU5LeEJWN3hodklXWGFCU1E&usp=drive_web#gid=0
Show that the drop rates before and after the patch, and we can see there there has been a severe drop in the rates.
Determined that I will buck the trend, I pushed through running my “Daily Disappointment” fractal. I ran 20s, 30s, 40s, and alas after 75 runs, with 1 skin and 1 armor chest, I’ve given up.
I am completely discouraged that the Devs have not responded to all the evidence that we have provided regarding the Fractal drops. Now I know there will be people who will say that they have received skins upon skin, and chest after chest, but they are the exception, not the norm.
You will receive more praise from us double checking your math with the drops then staying silent. I’m not asking to have these skins so common that they become the status of the rings, but to have a real chance to see these things drop.
So this is the end of Fractals for me until we have a message from Anet.
Thanks for listening and happy adventuring,
Ken
Berserker = Skilled http://i.imgur.com/g1rkIub.jpg
Never forget – http://i.imgur.com/Oxra9sj.jpg
Just did a full AC run- Got kholer chest for p1+p2, but not p3 o.o
Look for your chest in HotW. Maybe they put it there for the sake of consistency…
“You’re a bitter man," said Candide.
“That’s because I’ve lived in the dungeon forum,” said Martin.
Because it was never the Zerk gear that was OP.
Rangers are required to have Zerk gear and are usually kicked from the Zerk Groups.
If you notice the Zerk groups, you will notice usually only 3 classes.
Warriors & Guardians (zerk gear)
Mesmers (for the aoe invisibility)You can blame the Zerk gear all you want, but in reality its the
Warrior/Guardian – Zerk combination that is OP
You posted this in the wrong thread, I think you were looking for this one:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Most-Uninformed-Embarassing-Personal-Posts

