Guild Wars 2

Jeknar.6184:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Justine.6351:

I don’t understand,

If it was the same wouldn’t it be 6-4-2?

5-4-3 seems to keep the winner and the loser of a skirmish in competition?

Think about the point spread between the winner and loser after a couple skirmishes.
The winner has 10 the loser has 6, that’s a 4 point difference. With 3-2-1 the winner would have 6 and the loser would have 2, still a 4 point difference. It’s exactly the same just with bigger numbers, that’s why this “change” is completely pointless.

Indeed, the end result for scoring is the same no matter if it’s 3-2-1, 5-4-3 or 1000-999-998. The difference is in how glicko calculate the ratings based on scores… It use the % of the score between the the highest ranked and the rest to make the changes. With higher numbers you make the % much closer which will lessen the rating gain/loss.

For exemple: If a match had 100 skirmishes and ended at 300-200-100, the score % difference between the worlds is higher than if it was 500-400-300 (100 is 33% of 300 while 300 is 60% of 500). The higher the difference, more rating you gain/loss based on the rating difference between worlds.

All the yadda-yadda about how glicko works aside, I honestly rather take 3-2-1 over a similar system with higher numbers because the huge glicko swings actually work for varieirty. Staleness is terrible, and we already had years of stale matchups in the past.

I honestly don’t even attribute scores to how glicko affects matches anymore. Between The linkings preventing the smaller paired servers from achieving anything at all and anet manually adjusting glicko scores, it’s pretty much a non issue for me.

I like the 2-1-1 system because I have actually seen it improve peoples play style. It might not be the case on every server but in a number of matches across several tiers in NA that I have played on I saw the PPT players focusing the stronger server instead of just k-training the weaker server for easy points. When I was on the dominant server in a match up we were constantly being hit. There were several matches where the winner was determined on Friday, which kept people playing all week.

I personally never even look at the score while I’m playing but apparently there are still a lot of players that care about it. The 2-1-1 system kept them playing longer and made the matches more interesting, it deserves a decent chance before it is tossed out for the same old system.

Jim Hunter.6821:

Justine.6351:

I don’t understand,

If it was the same wouldn’t it be 6-4-2?

5-4-3 seems to keep the winner and the loser of a skirmish in competition?

Think about the point spread between the winner and loser after a couple skirmishes.
The winner has 10 the loser has 6, that’s a 4 point difference. With 3-2-1 the winner would have 6 and the loser would have 2, still a 4 point difference. It’s exactly the same just with bigger numbers, that’s why this “change” is completely pointless.

Indeed, the end result for scoring is the same no matter if it’s 3-2-1, 5-4-3 or 1000-999-998. The difference is in how glicko calculate the ratings based on scores… It use the % of the score between the the highest ranked and the rest to make the changes. With higher numbers you make the % much closer which will lessen the rating gain/loss.

For exemple: If a match had 100 skirmishes and ended at 300-200-100, the score % difference between the worlds is higher than if it was 500-400-300 (100 is 33% of 300 while 300 is 60% of 500). The higher the difference, more rating you gain/loss based on the rating difference between worlds.

All the yadda-yadda about how glicko works aside, I honestly rather take 3-2-1 over a similar system with higher numbers because the huge glicko swings actually work for varieirty. Staleness is terrible, and we already had years of stale matchups in the past.

I just want the 5 different guilds you can be in to have select-able colors The one you’re currently representing can still be gold, but oh my gods. When even two guilds are talking at the same time and you accidentally were representing some jumping puzzle guild you joined temporarily. It’s just this awful grey mess, and it’s worse if they have names of a similar length. Then when you represent your normal guild it won’t affect what’s already been said to make it more clear T^T.

Any whooo. More colors for guild chat just so we can know who’s talking, or at least have more options to. I definitely want some of the guilds I’m in right now to stay grey so please keep that as well. People get mad if you force optional options.

Random arguments against:

You can just make a new chat tab that only receives messages from each guild. That’s an option, but it doesn’t help if you want to see everything. There’s no notification noise you can set up for the other chats. So the separate chat tabs isolate you Then your guildies and friends you didn’t notice think you’re afk when you don’t respond and get off.

You can use a third party thingy doodle. Third party thingy doodles can be great, but I don’t want to look outside the game for a simple change that I know will help out a good hefty chunk of the player base.

You can just get gud.

:<

What OriOri said: fun idea (I would pay gems to use it), except that the technology would have to be added to the game, requiring retrofitting existing skill animations. Better they should use their limited time to work on other features/effects.

I would love this level of customization but I doubt we will get it.

For one, it would require that all skill animations be redone with a palette where we are allowed to pick the colors in it (or even just pick one of a few predefined palettes). For another, GW2 gave each class their own color scheme for their skills, and this would negate that. I personally think that the class color schemes are really kittening cool and would miss them a lot if people were allowed to customize their skills colors

When will we, the players, ever get our hands on these beautiful and stylish made NPCs outfits?

Picture 1:Female noble with elegant dress, having long-heels boots
Picture 0:Female noble with elegant dress, alternative different shoes
Picture 2:Female noble with deep-cut cleavage.
Picture 3:Male noble with elegant jacket and stylish vest.
etc… etc…

Aswell the Villagers outfits!?
Specially the new villagers’ clothes in the Lake Doric!

Actually, I’d like to second this. A lot of GW2’s armor feels garish or over-designed a lot of the time. Simplicity and elegance like this ironically stands out a lot more than just nailing as much shiny stuff as possible to one’s clothes.

THere’s an argument to be had pve was far, far more grindy at launch. We had no champ loot, we had no map rewards, no magic find, no abundance of rares and exotics to get ectos from.

I remember going for legendary just after Lost Shores and it was so much worse than it is now.

That said, yes there is some bad grind in places, but I do think it is less so than it was.

As for levelling – you can still do it anyway you choose. Nothing has changed here whatsoever. Sure I don’t like the changed levelling system either, but how you you actually level hasn’t been in any way downgraded.

As for being less about exploration, a lot of that is because any MMO game loses that after a while. I thoroughly enjoy the game, but it’s lost its sense of wonder and exploration – and that’s just down to excessive play on my part.

Might I humbly suggest (on my knees begging) that you make the magic carpet toy also into a glider skin so that I can truly live out my fantasies of being Aladdin? Thanks Anet!

brobofrodo.8964:

Was it that hard to say this earlier? You’ve really wasted so much of peoples time and energy by not saying this earlier.

Jhoul.6923:

You should have said this before!!!

Zaron.3270:

I’m glad I used 8 hours of PTO (paid time off) to play the new raid wing today.

FireCrescent.6512:

Yup.

Had my entire day ruined sitting around waiting for any info at all, now my entire week is off schedule. If you have a problem or messed up at least admit to it so people can move on with their days/lives thanks.

RoCkEt LaUnChEr.5893:

Maybe you should’ve made this statement about 4h ago ,speaking as an EU player

Well again they did announce first an initial delay (as pointed out by Ayrilana) and after working at it all day, it’s just not going to happen. Ergo this statement here.

They’re working on it even now. What happened was out of their power. Try to be a little understanding. They can’t control the weather.

Sazukikrah.5036:

So what you guys going to do for the players? What we getting ? some gems would be nice :P

Hahahahaa… you’re not serious with this, are you?
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Thanks Anet. You guys take care and stay warm.

Here we have people without power and with a potentially hazardous storm and all some can think about is omfg is the game going to get updated. ;;

I don’t get why people are so salty. Sorry, but if you decided to take a day of your JOB to play a game and then the update was not ready you’ve no one to blame but you.

Twyn.7320:

I appreciate the delay but you really should’ve made an executive decision regarding the snowstorm and the unforeseen setbacks earlier to prevent people from wasting their time doing nothing, like taking time off of work which they won’t get back.

You know, there are other things to do in life. If you are seriously sitting around waiting and taking time off work for a game that is not time sensitive then you need to look to yourself before telling others what they should be doing.

OriOri.8724:

Ironically the people who are being kittens and demanding that ANet should have released a statement earlier in the day are displaying the exact behavior that pushes companies away from releasing bad news like this.

Yeah and also ironic that they’re getting slammed because they were doing their best to get it out today to not disappoint people. I feel that there was no way they can win here.

Ironically the people who are being kittens and demanding that ANet should have released a statement earlier in the day are displaying the exact behavior that pushes companies away from releasing bad news like this.

Sazukikrah.5036:

BerriosC.7295:

Sazukikrah.5036:

So what you guys going to do for the players? What we getting ? some gems would be nice :P

You’re asking for gems? Really? We don’t deserve anything for the delay. kitten happens, not being a child about it.

Maybe YOOU don’t , you don’t speak for every player sir. Sorry .

No one deserves anything, you self righteous jerk. We didn’t lose anything for not getting to play today. For gods sake, it’s free content.

Cyhann.2609:

tanmiro.5918:

brobofrodo.8964:

Was it that hard to say this earlier? You’ve really wasted so much of peoples time and energy by not saying this earlier.

Jhoul.6923:

You should have said this before!!!

RoCkEt LaUnChEr.5893:

Maybe you should’ve made this statement about 4h ago ,speaking as an EU player

all of you should re-think what you saying…. for kitty sake… make a game…. try to make it stable for world wide , realese patches every 2 months with content… and then complain….

Your Kitty saltiness is boring… whiners and cry baby all over forum because patch didnt go live today… end of the kitty world… be happy that servers are still running and u can play the game.

No, first of all the information was out there already, but anet worked in “good hope” and us without information having many people waiting for hours, and taking a day off tomorow (more like today now), while not having any idea themselves if they can even make it at all. They should have just set the release date to friday since they can be sure to release it there, and tell us so in a timely manner. The way this was handled is extremely unprofessional.

Edit: As it stands now they wanna repeat this charade tomorow as well….
Just set it to friday, or next week even.

Or people shouldn’t plan their day around a video game and play it when they have time. And if they have to make time, make it for after the content is already out, not before. Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.

Vyrulisse.1246:

tanmiro.5918:

brobofrodo.8964:

Was it that hard to say this earlier? You’ve really wasted so much of peoples time and energy by not saying this earlier.

Jhoul.6923:

You should have said this before!!!

RoCkEt LaUnChEr.5893:

Maybe you should’ve made this statement about 4h ago ,speaking as an EU player

all of you should re-think what you saying…. for kitty sake… make a game…. try to make it stable for world wide , realese patches every 2 months with content… and then complain….

Your Kitty saltiness is boring… whiners and cry baby all over forum because patch didnt go live today… end of the kitty world… be happy that servers are still running and u can play the game.

Mike’s post implies the problem was pretty dang severe but all messages were things like “just a little bit later than usual” or implying it was always just around the corner, that’s why many players, especially EU players have a legitimate gripe here.

I`m EU player and i dont see the problem… yes patch is delayed… but what? should i cry and DEMAND like other to know where its on?… its on when its ready… I kitty hope its gonna be delayed for next week… it their stupidity and high demanding that make them like that…

Smells like salt and entitlement in here. Bleck.

To ArenaNet: Thank you for trying, but weather happens and things break – the majority of us understand! I look forward to tomorrow!

Raikidd.5803:

Next time can we(the common gw2 player) NOT be treated as 2nd class players in comparison with the press http://imgur.com/a/16wjT ? and actually be informed about a delay NOT when the patch had to hit.

Are you kittening for real? You’re comparing that to being treated as a second class citizen?

GW2 community, stay classy, kitten .

Sazukikrah.5036:

So what you guys going to do for the players? What we getting ? some gems would be nice :P

You’re asking for gems? Really? We don’t deserve anything for the delay. kitten happens, not being a child about it.

brobofrodo.8964:

Was it that hard to say this earlier? You’ve really wasted so much of peoples time and energy by not saying this earlier.

Jhoul.6923:

You should have said this before!!!

RoCkEt LaUnChEr.5893:

Maybe you should’ve made this statement about 4h ago ,speaking as an EU player

all of you should re-think what you saying…. for kitty sake… make a game…. try to make it stable for world wide , realese patches every 2 months with content… and then complain….

Your Kitty saltiness is boring… whiners and cry baby all over forum because patch didnt go live today… end of the kitty world… be happy that servers are still running and u can play the game.

I agree with you. Anet didn’t cause the snow storm, and it’s not fair to be ripping into them for “wasting your time” when you could just as easily play another game or go outside for a day. The game will still exist tomorrow. They will get the patch out in due time. Patience and stuff yo.

Unfortunately this thread is just going to attract the toxic people since the other thread got locked…

Just throwing this out there for a bit of perspective as it’s something I tend to forget:

Yes it’s frustrating that the new update hasn’t arrived yet, but if it was going to happen to any game I play I’d pick Guild Wars 2. Why?

Because they can keep the servers up while they do the update.

If my other MMO, or any other I know of, had been in the same situation they would have taken the servers offline when they started the process of updating and they would have to keep them offline for the entire time they were working on it. Meaning the entire game would be inaccessible.

At least this way we have the entire existing game, everything up to Season 3, Episode 3 to play while we wait. (Well I don’t because I’m at work, but you know what I mean.)

On top of that we’re not paying for it. Not only are we not ‘losing’ subscription time to the update but we won’t pay for it when it does come either. If you’re currently waiting for the update you’re almost certainly going to log in during the weeks/months of it’s release period, so you’ll get the whole thing for free.

No it’s not ideal. It messed up my evening (in the sense that I had to play something else and couldn’t really enjoy it because I really wanted to be playing the new update) and it might well mess up my next evening as well. But I’d much prefer to be waiting on a GW2 update than any other game I play.

Literally what Justine stated.

Lately this is my solo roaming encounters (not limited to T1, this can happen on any tier/server):

• Instead of coming out to fight players hide behind walls pew pewing at you with siege
• Players only come out of their comfort zone walls when they have all the keep buffs and at least 4 other guys to take you down
• After being ganked by ~5 players a few will corpse jump you, throw siege and spam emotes
• Any fights taken place are usually power-creep, sustain-filled never-ending engagements (damage reduction modifers, HoT “balance” etc)
• Condi cancer mesmer, tanky-never-dying-druids, stealth camping thieves to name a few ungodly things you will encounter
• Salty whispers from players who can’t accept they’ve been beaten, especially with non-meta funzie’ builds (in fact it doesn’t matter WHAT build/gear/weps you run you will be on a salt collecting spree if you don’t set yourself to “invisible”)
• That one guy who always manages to escape/cowers/flees back into his comfort zone walls if things go south yet stalks you everywhere once you distance yourself
• Enemy roamers who call their entire map blob zerg to deal with you for whatever strange reason
• Everyone and their mum’s brown dog seems to be running “meta” builds so things become predictable, boring, uninteresting

The mentality of players has changed since the beginning,..and for the worst I’d say.

Nobody but the most tough guy will fight 1m away from keeps or towers, even worst they will try their best to outnumber you. be it using guards or other players.

Everybody try to play to safe, take no risk, always move in group, never fight when outnumbered.

People would rather cap an empty tower…than enjoy a challenging fight…

It’s truly disgusting behaviour and Anet can’t do anything about it I’m afraid

Let me not even start on the roaming scene….nothing but condi bunkers so much that even thieves are now rare

I have no suggestions..just I feel very sorry for those who still look for a challenge, a honest fight, the times of heroic fights , those times where you used to spend hours in WvW having fun…those times are gone and are not coming back.

Korgov.7645:

What do you miss out on when the enemy uses alt-F4?

A perfectly good screenshot of a dead yaks bend player (or five) that I’m /sit’ing on with a kite out for me to print off, frame and hang on my bedroom wall with the others.
Its really disappointing.

~ Kovu

I know a guild called Bana that are logout heros. Its ridiculous.

Jim Hunter.6821:

I find it much more satisfying that I made someone rage quit, plus it saves me time.

I find ragequit on this lvl super satisfying,
https://youtu.be/LanzC_XzmME

Swamurabi.7890:

2. There’s been multiple reports of queued maps that the players on the map have the outmanned buff.

Which to me means the outmanned isn’t a 3:1 thing. If your server queues a map and the two other servers also are queuing the same map, you will be outnumbered by both enemy servers. Would be interesting to really know how outmanned works though since the other two servers would also be outnumbered by their opponents on the map.