Guild Wars 2

Banzie.5248:

BP I hope you guys get off karma train mentality by reset tomorrow. 25 of us in garri held back 50+ of you AFTER siege was destroyed for quite a while. Only after out tanks went down after a poor push I’ll admit on our part, did you get in— 5 minutes after.

On other notes good fights tonight HK and all that were with them at hills and water camp.

Apologies to the SIC engi I killed earlier 1v1 on my level 13 necro.

Poor showing by some db guilds emote spamming after they killed me 5v1 on my up level. Sad to see such great guilds and such poor ones on the same server.

Over all great week. Mend had fun fighting everyone whether we won or lost. Good luck to everyone in the leagues. Look forward to fighting you all soon!!

It was a commander hat party (i am sure the videos will be coming soon). We were not actually playing for keeps, just having fun. Nice flame ram by the way. I approve. You guys are learning to love the ram. This is very good. The ram is full of awesome and win. Also, dead bodies. I must confess that ram added my body to the pile.

Radioactive.1248:

Aeros.2046:

airstu.2579:

SBI talking smack about transfers? lol.

Somebody hold me! Need to bring back the good ole days when Borlis waypointed SBI’s hills every match up and those few people who knew what was up tried and failed to beg the zombie horde in Eternal to come and help them. I think our record for holding a Hills keep in SBI borderlands was about 5 days. So much fun. That keep was a golem graveyard, watered with tears. Can’t wait to try again.

I remember when we waypointed your garrison….

What an accomplishment, building a waypoint while we are all asleep. I am sure the 20 people who were awake to see it were very impressed. Never change SBI. You guys are the perfect server to hate on. A Combination of Eternal Zombie Horde and band wagon transfers. I am torn. On the one hand I hope you end up in Gold so JQ and SoR can dump on you for 7 weeks. On the other hand I kinda hope you come into Silver so we can cut our teeth trying to tear you down and convince those guilds that transferred to you to jump ship again like they jumped their previous ships.

Its is a Borlis Tradition that, when everything else has been flipped, to go for the Enemy Citadel. We’ve never capped it yet, but one day soon Borlis will destroy an enemy Citadel waypoint. We believe.

airstu.2579:

SBI talking smack about transfers? lol.

Somebody hold me! Need to bring back the good ole days when Borlis waypointed SBI’s hills every match up and those few people who knew what was up tried and failed to beg the zombie horde in Eternal to come and help them. I think our record for holding a Hills keep in SBI borderlands was about 5 days. So much fun. That keep was a golem graveyard, watered with tears. Can’t wait to try again.

Laz Tha Second Coming.4305:

Aeros.2046:

Let me talk for a moment about how Borlis Pass went from the very bottom of Tier 6 to our current position as a contender for the top of this Silver League. And this is really to servers at the butt end of the league looking foreword to several weeks on beatings.

A change of mentality. Learning to enjoy WvW for the game, and not the trophy. Let me ask everyone here. How does being in first place change how you play WvW? Is it really any different then when you are in last place? For months, Borlis Pass was the punching bag of tier 5. We lost our fair weathers. Towards the end, several guilds even left because we “sucked” (And ended up becoming punching bags on Maguuma lol).

For those of us who stuck with it though, we built a whole new server from the ground. New tactics, new tools, and more importantly, new guilds. Grown Organically. Rather then pray for transfers or cry tears over past glory we built our server back up from the ground up and used our repeated beatings as learning experiences rather then punishment.

This is why you won’t see BP fair weather or tank a match. Also why we punch above our weight. We have the same population density as IoJ, Darkhaven and NSP and are presently the highest ranked server with a “High” density during its prime time. And it all goes back to rethinking what we like about WvW, and its not winning. Its wrecking face when we can wreck it.

Except for the fact that BP got transfers, a lot of them. Krew returned,DR (who unfortunately left), Lost, MM, DPS, SIC, vT, Hop, AXIS, VP, VOX, BC…should I keep going or are you getting the point. BP may not have asked for the guilds but they came and have had a huge impact.

We hugely outnumber NSP, DH and now IoJ due to their guilds jumping ship. If you think in any way that we aren’t fielding more numbers than those servers you are more ignorant than I thought. Our strength is our numbers. We can respond with a queue on almost any map and we have a constant presence on any borderland. It may not always be a big presence but we have bodies everywhere. We queue maps with groups at all hours of the day (minus SEA, poor guys but we do have Kalkz) and they crush people.

TL;DR

NSP, I’m sorry you are having to go against ridiculous numbers but I your bags will end up full just the same because you are solid players. Anyone who tries to argue that its not a numbers game is an idiot and I wish you the best of luck for the next 7 weeks.

I think I am not as ignorant as you think I am. Are we bigger? yes. We did not get that way by being passive or crying into our milk. lrn 2 read. I believe I said we took our medicine and focused on working to make our server better so it could compete and not tank. Nobody transfers to a tanking server. Ask Anvil Rock, who back in the day could beat us. And we don’t que maps at all hours. The only time our Maps que is when BS and WFD take to the field, or else reset night.

Let me talk for a moment about how Borlis Pass went from the very bottom of Tier 6 to our current position as a contender for the top of this Silver League. And this is really to servers at the butt end of the league looking foreword to several weeks on beatings.

A change of mentality. Learning to enjoy WvW for the game, and not the trophy. Let me ask everyone here. How does being in first place change how you play WvW? Is it really any different then when you are in last place? For months, Borlis Pass was the punching bag of tier 5. We lost our fair weathers. Towards the end, several guilds even left because we “sucked” (And ended up becoming punching bags on Maguuma lol).

For those of us who stuck with it though, we built a whole new server from the ground. New tactics, new tools, and more importantly, new guilds. Grown Organically. Rather then pray for transfers or cry tears over past glory we built our server back up from the ground up and used our repeated beatings as learning experiences rather then punishment.

This is why you won’t see BP fair weather or tank a match. Also why we punch above our weight. We have the same population density as IoJ, Darkhaven and NSP and are presently the highest ranked server with a “High” density during its prime time. And it all goes back to rethinking what we like about WvW, and its not winning. Its wrecking face when we can wreck it.

1. Give names to each of the Tower Lords and Keep Lords
2. Give them each a unique skin and scripted voice interactions
3. Make them different classes with difference abilities

BP’s strength has always been its PUG Zergs. We have a cadre of very skilled Militia Commanders that can rally some major forces to a map and get them organized and wrecking. I don’t know how many times I have seen guild groups charge at one of our zergs with a mix of guilds tags in it and expecting it to melt, only to be the ones floored instead. Things get really interesting when one of our PvE zergs makes the hop to WvW. Zero to que in 5 seconds.

Was a fun match up. IoJ and DB kept it classy. Y’all are alright. Its a shame your servers have so many people jumping from them. BP has been their before and we know it blows. Its a real shame this league business has locked you into 2 months of pain. However, it could very well make you all the better for it. BP went through several months of being face rolled over the spring and summer when we first moved into Tier 5. We emerged from that much stronger, and with a new appreciation for second place, which IMO, goes to the server that does not cave or fairweather in an otherwise brutal match up.

The circle is complete, and unbroken. For 10 glorious seconds BP owned every Keep on all maps. And the fun thing, as you can tell from all the dead bodies, it was not PvDoor. Gotta hand it to IoJ, they did not fold. We had to fight for those last toe holds they had.

Well, it seems BP’s tier 1 tactic is discovering that Keeps go into lock down as Anet is doing a WvW restart. All the gates were blown open, but I guess capping the circle during restart means it does not count.

We’re just as bored as you guys are. The only reason we’re karma training is because nobody is bothering to come and stop us. At best there are 2 or 3 people in each keep we crash into.

Somebody forgot to shut the back door of IoJ garrison.

grabemx.9836:

Evilzara.6378:

Atharsia.3249:

Agriope.4523:

So, DB is hurting for people huh?

…Cool story, bro.

No one said we didn’t have people, we just lost WvW oriented guilds and our WvW population overall decreased during NA prime. We still have NNK, TFV and some other SEA guilds that come out to fight with good numbers.

vincecontix.1264:

so much lag and dc in Bp bl wth?

I believe the match-up would be quite different if BPBL didn’t had that connectivity issues. It’s just sad that no one can do kitten there because of lag and dc’s.

It happens to us too so that’s not really an excuse.

Actually I think it’s a very valid excuse. You guys already own the map (and the points contained therein). Basically that BL is now free points for you guys.

I would disagree. We’ve lost those same keeps because the response force gets disconnected on the way to the assailed keep. Also, we’ve had to eject you guys from the Garrison Lords room several times this match up. I would credit BP’s emergency response time more then some ephemeral connectivity issue.

IBountyHunterI.4601:

BP, build more AC’s Plox.

IoJ garrison a few days ago. Just one battery of the AC’s. They had a few more on the dome, some more over by the Mystic Forge, another batter of 5 at the Middle inner gates, 2 trebuchets and 5 ballistas in the lords room itself. Was…interesting. Even more interesting was we got through the choke point anyway and killed most of it

We’ve found Dragonbrands Secret Weapon.

Tonaius.6712:

You know what, IoJ may be in 3rd place. But I’m still enjoying this match up.

Also I think it’s unfair that this match up happened, not because we’re losing, but because it’s so hard to say the right acronym with the right server. Too many times I’ve gotten tongue tied calling out the DB and BP zerg’s we’re fighting at the same time. It’s BS :p

It is indeed BS that you are confused with all the acronyms. BS sends its condolences, and reminds you that people on our own side occasionally get confused too.

Banzie.5248:

No hills for you BP, Sorry

We decided to disagree, and raise you one entire borderlands.

Borlis Borderlands has been broken all week. Last night we tried responding to attacks on our Hills and Bay keep and half our zerg would get disconnected 2 minutes in. its odd though as the issue is unique solely to the Green Borderlands. The other two and eternal have had no issues.

Anyone else have ridiculous lag spikes and disconnection issues on the Green Borderlands? Ever since reset on Friday, the Green area in the Tier 4 match has been kittened.

This league business is going to be rough for the people who have stayed on for Dragonbrand. Also, IoJ seems upset they are not winning like they did the first time we met. Long story short, no, BP has not had any off the wall the transfers. The people you are fighting are our usual crew. We had a slow week the first time we met.

Believe it or not, today, BP only had one zerg that bounced around all the maps in the games, leaving sentries scattered about to relay time sensitive intelligence to the main body. This gave Borlis insane force multiplication, allowing us to engage across all spectrums of WvW’s combat zones.

that was me waving at those golems as they began their rush towards Garrison and Dragonbrand Bay. Thank you for making my borning guard duty in the NE tower worth it

Also, Hills and Bay are to Borlis what Stonemist is to most other servers. We love them, and prioritize them.

Believe it or not, today, BP only had one zerg that bounced around all the maps in the game, leaving sentries scattered about to relay time sensitive intelligence to the main body. This gave Borlis insane force multiplication, allowing us to engage across all spectrums of WvW’s combat zones. We don’t have tier 1/2 coverage. We have tier 4 coverage IMO. We are just very good with how we utilize it.

Also, that was me waving at those golems as they began their rush towards Garrison and Dragonbrand Bay. Thank you for making my boring guard duty in the NE tower worth it

Actually, this is a traditional Borlis Pass maneuver. The hold an enemy Hills keep at all hazards move. We’ve done it many times before, usually to SBI. Its why they hate us incidentally. As for cheating, don’t kid yourselves. I am the Sylvari Bronze Knight you no doubt saw at many of your camps trying to stop that waypoint construction. Me and many others went to a ton of trouble to complete it and we did so fairly, and our sentries have been sitting on it since to watch for golems.

Also, yay! This thread has finally gotten interesting!

IoJ, I know I have said this before, but, RAMS. LOVE THEM. All these Omega Golems you are throwing at Askalion Hills has got to be expensive. What is the damage now, 50 gold?

Natronix.9827:

Shout out to the BP BL team. You’re scouting, sieging on keeps was neat.

Great fun today. Thanks to all the IoJ that came and ran havoc with us

Well, you guys kinda gave the game away. Superior Rams. Seriously :P

I wonder what IoJ is planning to do tonight in Borlis Borderlands. Could not POSSIBLY be a golem rush. You guys have just been obviously building golems where we all can see it for the last 3 hours to mess with us!

Does it actually “do” anything though? I mean, okay you are in the spawn, but its an invulnerable area. And one wrong move and you get sniped by a legendary defender.

Good to see BP running and all cylinders this week. Our map forces are terrifying things at full power and for some reason they have been lacking in mojo these past couple of weeks. No more! This is the Borlis I know, wrecking face and collecting bags.

This match up. How I learned to stop caring and love the flame ram!

IoJ, you will learn to love the flame ram.

Now if we could just teach CD and IoJ what flame rams are, we will really have a party

ResetSmith.3719:

Aeros.2046:

Wow, we’ve managed to keep BPBL on lockdown for about 6 hours. Was a ton of fun running around killing all the roamers. Highlight of the day was definitely me and 2 other people killing 20 MEND and SE at Redwater Lowlands.

You guys are crazy!

We took a small group over there at about 2am CST (like 5 people small) and within 30 seconds of being in vale we had a 20 man group on is.

You have awesome coverage.

Yeah, I never really appreciated how powerful a fully upgraded camp could be until I saw what happened to a guild group after it gets nailed by a ballista and then mobbed by all those scouts and wizards.

Wow, we’ve managed to keep BPBL on lockdown for about 6 hours. Was a ton of fun running around killing all the roamers. Highlight of the day was definitely me and 2 other people killing 20 MEND and SE at Redwater Lowlands.

Lorelei.3918:

Aeros.2046:

If you guys agree that its a problem, just block the dude so he can’t spill the beans to you. Rather simple and elegant solution to the spirit of fair play. To be fair though, these shenanigans were very effective at rallying our server to hit Crystal Desert hard. So it was kind of a double edged thing. On the one hand it sucked, on the other hand it led to a 30 minute long assault of CD’s fully upgraded Bay ending in a Cap, and a 3 hour long siege of hills that delivered incessant and never ending slaughter, ending with a flip of SM out from under Crystal Desert.

As with all things, every action, reaction

So what you are saying is you need to put down and demonize a entire server in order to rally up the will to fight? Mmkay whatever you say. Just stop acting like you are on some moral high ground.

It’s Disgusting.

Not at all, but taking advantage of obvious exploits naturally gets peoples dander up and increases the will to compete. We did not need to whip our server up. It was a natural reaction. We are usually quite dead on Saturdays. It’s nice to see us queuing maps and wrecking things.

If you guys agree that its a problem, just block the dude so he can’t spill the beans to you. Rather simple and elegant solution to the spirit of fair play. To be fair though, these shenanigans were very effective at rallying our server to hit Crystal Desert hard. So it was kind of a double edged thing. On the one hand it sucked, on the other hand it led to a 30 minute long assault of CD’s fully upgraded Bay ending in a Cap, and a 3 hour long siege of hills that delivered incessant and never ending slaughter, ending with a flip of SM out from under Crystal Desert.

As with all things, every action, reaction

Necromancer the whole way. The combination of Plague and Death Shroud makes for some really good survivaibility AND utility at the tip of the spear.

BP has someone like this a few months ago. Good Ole Arif Q. He would place build a gazillion trebs in our SM. Dude also had a commander hat. His favorite thing to do would be to get people to follow him and then lead them off cliffs.

Glad you guys had as much fun in Garrison as we did. I can honestly say that was the longest Keep Lord fight I have ever had the pleasure to fight in. Usually at some point a server runs out of bodies willing to run into the fire, but IoJ kept coming at us. We nearly capped it twice by you guys kept suiciding in. That was some dedication. We were never able to take it from you in the end. But we made you pay for it at Hills later on :P

If I could give some parting Advice to IoJ, your match up with us here in BP is a small taste of things to come if you keep rising in the ranks. You have good coverage, and that was our major weakness this match. We just could not match your numbers all the time. However, when we could match your numbers your zergs almost always get melted. I made 80 Heavy bags in Eternal last night, and did not die. Once. Over a period of about 3 hours. You can go a long way is just straight numbers, but this point here is the cut off for that. Without proper field craft and serverwide knowledge of the importance for proper armor for WvW, you are going to be in for a world of pain if you keep gaining ranks.

It will be interesting see if people in High Population servers seize the opportunity to escape the never ending ques and skill lag. It could be a good thing for rebalancing.

Here is the omega golem that was murdering your zergs in Eternal IoJ. I am happy to report rumors of its death are overblown. It is presently busting out some sweet tunes at our spawn.

Tibstrike.2974:

Hey BP and CD! Thanks oh so much for taking SM finally. I know a lot of us were getting really bored with your guys’ attempts at taking it! I mean, the ridiculous amount of bags were nice, but holding such a ridiculously easy target gets tiring. So I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your success!

And to all you INC guys! We saw you guys bringing friends to the fight, so we thought we could as well! It’s truly unfortunate you didn’t specify numbers! But nice ninja of hills and bay. I know it must’ve been truly difficult to take our paper keeps!

It was much fun taking it from you guys. Keep bringing those kinds of numbers and you’ll do alright. To be fair though, it was not a double team. On that final push to get that ultimately ended in the cap 5 minutes later, we had to kill Crystal Desert before we could start work on the Lords Room. Like our last attempts on Saturday, CD seemed incapable of making its own breaches in SM’s gates and kept trying to follow behind us. Makes things overly complicated. But this time we got it, even with them running interference. If its any consolation to you though, we flipped CD’s bay right after.

Cynz.9437:

Aeros.2046:

Hey, IoJ, I got something for you!

THE FLAME RAM!

Used for: Knocking down doors
Alternate use: Flame attack to weaken gates and hold choke points by causing burning and fear

Having been roaming our borderlands for the last 2 hours, I am now convinced you have never heard of it, so I figured I should let you know how it works, so you can save money. 5 Alphas and an Omega to try and knock down wooden doors must get expensive after awhile. They only cost 6 badges after all, and with a little fiddling you can upgrade them to the Superior Variety!

PROTIP: Superior Flame rams do more damage to gates then Alpha and Omega golems.

we farmed so many bags from SBI last week, we got more than enough money to flood entire map with golems :P

You say that like its accomplishment :P SBI is awesome for farming. We can even get our PvE players into our keeps when SBI starts attacking They are a bit better now that guilds that know what they are doing are transferring though. Before it was rather funny.

Hey, IoJ, I got something for you!

THE FLAME RAM!

Used for: Knocking down doors
Alternate use: Flame attack to weaken gates and hold choke points by causing burning and fear

Having been roaming our borderlands for the last 2 hours, I am now convinced you have never heard of it, so I figured I should let you know how it works, so you can save money. 5 Alphas and an Omega to try and knock down wooden doors must get expensive after awhile. They only cost 6 badges after all, and with a little fiddling you can upgrade them to the Superior Variety!

PROTIP: Superior Flame rams do more damage to gates then Alpha and Omega golems.

Wow CD, if you spent half as much trouble trying take SM from IoJ as you spend trying to prevent us from getting into it, you may just be able to take the castle. That was three times now you kitten blocked us.

IoJ reminds me of us so many moons ago, on the rise and finally crashing into some tough servers for the first time. Like kids on Christmas. Don’t worry IoJ, we’ll make sure your present is worth all the anticipation

Insane Pancakez.9182:

Visirale.6097:

Insane Pancakez.9182:

Core… Leave your zerg lol you are a GvG/skill group from what I remember last time we played you. 30+ guildies, lots of pugs, and siege? Come on now what do you need to wipe something 1/3 of your size..

1/3? Lol, k. See you on the battlefield this week.

Anyway, the fights were fun I just think you guys should ditch the zerg, you’re a great group really good too. But Skill groups in zergs isn’t really.. Skill

Actually, being able to form a massive force within the confines of a single guild requires a great deal of skill. Administrative skill. Which I suppose is not as smexy as gameplay skill. But well, the amount of work that goes into creating a guild group of that size is enormous. So props to CORE.

Lots of fun tonight. I know I am usually known for my RAGE posts and general tom foolery, but both CD and IoJ put up an epic fight in BPBL tonight. You really kept us from upgrading things.

I have to ask though. Why all the golems? They were wooden keeps. Rams are cheaper and work just as good.

Also, LIME guild, we see you. Enough said.

There is nothing wrong with my attitude! I simply call things akittenhey are