Guild Wars 2

Zacchary.6183:

There is a difference between damage and damage per second. Yes thief can hit 10k with one strike, but a warrior can out dps a thief over time.

thief can hit 20k with one strike and no…. our single target dps is higher.
You shouldn’t deny just because you are not able to reach it

Riaky.8965:

Dredge fractal needs serious balancing, this isn’t challenging or fun. It’s just dredgefully L-O-N-G. Especially after 40 those waves alone take like 15 mins + to kill, the same thing over and over again.

We need about 20-30 min for this fractal… just dont use PVT and run full zerker with a good strategy
I think there is no problem, even at level 40+

HeNnAz.8913:

Besides, can a thief hit 20k’s with a single shot?

Yes we can
But I would not call it “shot” use the word “heartseeker” or “backstab” pls

Erebus.3897:

• don’t run an instance if you don’t have enough AR, even if u dodge well, maw will get you.

I totally disagree with that… I had never enough ar, my first ring was droped at level 30 daily so I had to learn dodgeing very fast
I prefer to have less ar then too much because you unlearn to evade

Raidium.3916:

I’m a glass cannon thief and I could barely hit 6k with 10 stacks of might on my backstab. Where are you getting 10k backstab from? I also got full berserker with ruby orb.

from 30-30-10-0-0 with 20 stacks of might

Travlane.5948:

Anubarak.3012:

Stop saying warriors out-DPS thieves, it’s not true. We have the strongest single target DPS in the game. It is your fault if you are not able to reach it.

Why should we tank? why should anyone tank, use your skills and your brain. We can dodge everything, so what is better: healing 20k dmg or completely evade it?

At least thieves can support very well since damage is the best support… btw we have smoke screen and black powder and signet of agility if you don’t use them its your fault

check this out https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Thieves-suck-in-PvE

why do all groups in cof elite only run 4 warriors 1 mesmer? why not 4 thieves 1 mesmer? plz answer this

We need at least one Warrior to stack might… and well the answer is easy: when you compare a high dps thief with a high dps warrior you’ll notice that a warrior is much easier to play. 18hp vs 11k hp… warriors have more armor, more health, more evades and you need to be more organized.

Tell a warrior he should use 4 banners to stack might in a combofield. I can image 75% of them dont even know what a combo is, the rest wont use them cause they want to have their signet of rage.

Its just so much easier for a warrior to reach such a high dps. Thieves need more skill for that

Edit: oh I forgot: 99.9999% of all people dont even know how strong thieves can be.. Just like you

Alex.6940:

Anubarak.3012:

Stop saying warriors out-DPS thieves, it’s not true. We have the strongest single target DPS in the game. It is your fault if you are not able to reach it.

They do? From my experience it doesn’t feel like that is true and groups doing speed runs will use zerker warriors over thieves.

try 30-30-10-0-0
and @CoF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCdnhkdHXYg

Stop saying warriors out-DPS thieves, it’s not true. We have the strongest single target DPS in the game. It is your fault if you are not able to reach it.

Why should we tank? why should anyone tank, use your skills and your brain. We can dodge everything, so what is better: healing 20k dmg or completely evade it?

At least thieves can support very well since damage is the best support… btw we have smoke screen and black powder and signet of agility if you don’t use them its your fault

check this out https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Thieves-suck-in-PvE

But we have much better options to refill this bar^^

I’m not very interested in having more survivability… I bet only builds with 0-0-30-30-0 will gain acces to that
With my 30-30-10-0-0 it would be better to know how strong they’ll nerf our DPS. I Don’t want to see another Heartseeker or Backstab nerf -.-

Rune of the Scholar if you are good enough to hold your HP > 90% otherwise I would recommend to use Ruby orbs

depends on the enemy… I think you mean 25-30-0-0-15 but the dps of this build is just higher if the enemy dies quickly enough.
Your initiative recovery is much to bad so after few cnd – backstab combos you’ll run out of initiative

well… our single target dmg is even better then warriors’ – just go out and try a 30-30-10-0-0 with assassins signet, signet of agility, ambush and thieves guild

you will see you need only 1 warrior for might stacking and our dmg is higher
edit: but yeah.. more dmg is always nice
btw: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Build-The-REAL-maximum-DPS-thief/first#post1885380

@10k Mug

As far as I can tell, a 10k Mug hit in sPvP is possible.

Using the burst build http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQJAoYlcmaOXcS4E/5Ex2DfuTe6VAsaPoZLvJA;TkAg0UcZ4SwllLHXSuGFMJA (Which is an awful build, all glass, no defence)

If you have 25 stacks of Bloodlust + a target below 50% health + 25 stacks of vulnerability + attack from behind + pop all signets (Including heal) and Basalisk Venom for 22 Might stacks + above 6 initiative + against a light armour target with no toughness and no protection and hit with the highest damage roll from weapon damage with a dagger you get:

981 * (2269 + 250 + 770) * (1.5 * 2.03) * 1.9 / 1800 = 10371

Which, while is possible is highly impractical and requires set up from allies (The 25 Vulnerability stacks) and a target that has no defence (Light armour + no toughness nor protection) as well as popping all utilities in a spec that has no defence and no utility and only provides burst.

and in WvW you have higher stats

Ninewonderz.6439:

Just curious as to why. i used to see people using it all the time now its just D/D thieves.

I think this is the best weapon set for high level fractals and in all dungeons where u have to hit multiple targets (CoF, arah….) but the single target dmg is not as good as D/D

randomfightfan.4091:

well the gameplay WAS amazing until you nerfed stealth to 4s. Now it just isn’t smooth or natural feeling. Disappointing that we have to deal with it until it gets reverted (pve point of view here).

//sign

Thank you^^

I know in theory this build does more dmg then p/p but what about enemies like the boss in cliffside or ascalon? Do you even kill them melee without 15 in acrobatic…. I´m not sure how you can stay alive at 60+ without increased endurance reg

Hey

Just a short question… someone told me Hidden Killer has a chance to increase the damage of Critical hits… well I dont really believe that anyway I would like to know if this is true

There was a discussion about a 10k Mug and in my opinion this is impossible in sPvP. I was told this is because of the Hidden Killer dmg increase.
So can anyone please help me? Is 10k Mug possible and how exactly works Hidden Killer?

thanks

JonPeters.5630:

As we played with the stealth changed mentioned in the SotG, we recognized that in conjunction with the change to culling this was an unpredictable change to make. We also felt that it was too big of a hit to these stealth professions, so we ended up pulling that change in favor of just increasing revealed duration by 1 second.

the only one who are really attracted by this are PvEler….
so there are problems in PvP/WvW with culling and “op” stealth methods…. but for WvW/PvP this change is not as bad as for PvE

ok, thank u very much

Hello,

I already asked this question in the german forum, but nobody could help me there… Does anyone know if Wintersbark (shortbow from ele) has the same arrow effects like the summoned version? When I get it from ele my thief shoots frost arrows and I like to know if the crafted version have them too…

sry for my bad English, I hope u can understand what I want to know^^"
thanks for everyone

hey gw2 team

I don´t know if someone else already asked this question…. anyway what are your plans with new races? Will we be able to play tengu?
sry for my bad english^^"