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just because your being attacked by both does not mean they are “teamed” up… I can’t see a one of these 3 servers mutually agreeing to work together, it kind of makes me lol in my mouth a little when i contemplate that board meeting…

Daish.6139:

whats a Capulet?

it’s a romeo and juliet joke that means “jokingly” she is an enemy and off limits =p
all star-crossed lovers etc.. i found it to be hilarious reference.

This already a discussion thread.. just getting repetitive.

Portals/Thieves!

Yama.9376:

SBI press “B”

/last laugh

Zibzab [sOLo]
SBI thug

Enjoy. Everone loses.

I got /danced on yesterday in SBIBL who killed me during a siege Breech.

The hilarity is I got my portal dropped and guess who got pancaked fast after that. He should have spent less time /dancing more “hmm what is that flashy pink circle over there?” Showboating like this is just players thinking their king for a minute, or less in this guys case.

I think what a lot of people forget is.. these are MEMBERS of servers talking smack not servers. Peeps saw “its not our fault we’re pve so we can’t win”, then well “we hate JQ so if we cant win we can screw them” and it became a now cryfest on 3 sides. No one here is server king, just people.

I don’t have the impression SBI members recruited IoJ to aid them, but I do think many IoJ members thought if they can’t win they’d do everything they could to help drop the top team. So SBI continued to improve their rep as a server that fights tooth and nail and earned their win, and IoJ members made their own impression.

Don’t think theirs a thing wrong with a team up personally, but only one is considered dominant and the other is always seen as the tag-a-long historically speaking, because 2 dominant forces don’t need to team up with each other if they could have done it themselves (again I don’t think SBI recruited aid from IoJ, I think they worked hard and didn’t sleep), but theirs no shared glory for first place.

Don’t think poorly of either server for their tactics throughout the match. Been a good fight and good lessons. And a legit win and subsequent placements, Looking forward to next match-ups. SBI was a beast for the last 24 hours btw, great fights, get some sleep now guys.

is there some forum thing that doesn’t allow you to /report or quote a post in a thread after a certain amount of time?

@ ClickJ.6287 above, STOP posting links to a friggin exploit! You know how many have begun doing this crap since people began posting HOW to do in on the forums…

dance and kneel all you want. If I haven’t released yet my friends are prolly sneaking right up behind you, or you are giving me tons of useful intel.

If I’m going to take time out of my busy killing/spying/capping/siege destroying Wv3 life it’s not to waste time trying to humiliate someone with a lame gesture, that’s what the scoreboard is for. I’ll only waste time to /bow or /salute good 1v1 or 1v2 etc… otherwise hit the “B” button to see who last laughs.

So excitements today in SBIBL: SBI trebbed Bay from Garrison and finally took it after a couple runs at it. Then, we got to Ninja the bay back from SBI, then haul buttocks back to hills to defend the orb with success. It was a worthy risk assessment and paid off.

Much yak lovings happening today I dream about yak suppositories to make em move faster now… but keeping hold of the supplies today been back and forth and some of the camp battles were pretty rad.

JQ = 171.8 **
SBI = 148.2
IoJ = 127.9

Kirrund.2654:

Don’t forget, Mesmers are the least mobile class.

halleluiah brothah … you HAVE to have a focus to have any speed ability, which is a line in sand and slow refresh compared to rest of the professions… we move slow or trade a lot to get the speed others get for nuthin and thier chicks for free…

I’m rounding 900ish, suddenly all those suicide runs into keeps or “scouting” seem to be worth it =p

Kirrund.2654:

EasymodeX.4062:

Mesmer Portal is OP in wvw simply because no other classes have remotely similar ability to move massive amount of troops. To stop it being OP, other classes need such “overwhelmingly” useful skills in organized groups.

Guardians have lolWall and lolBubble that can completely block chokepoints, nevermind Aegis that can enable a large force to walk through ballistas. Warrs have 1-shot Kill Shots and AOE Fear, invulnerability cooldown to soak enemy fire. Elite Banner insta-rezzes on downed players.

Eles have infinite AOE pew pew pew pew.

Only classes that don’t have any really potent/stackable effect are Rangers, Necros, and Engis. 1 spirit Ranger is good enough. Not aware of any highly effective things that Necros or Engis can pull off.

Engineer grenade spam is extremely powerful. If the engineer is specced for nothing but damage (glass cannon) grenade spam (or thief clusterbomb spam) will wipe out people clumped faster than just about anything. It’s ridiculous when used properly. My brother’s thief clusterbomb crits for 6000. Engineer grenade spam hits for about 3k to 4k combined. And with the trait, their grenades apply vulnerability, and continuously stacks, so you can get it stacked up pretty high pretty fast. That damage adds up fast, provided the enemies are in an aoe situation.

Also, Engineers can have 4 blowout (the knockback that knocks you down for 3 seconds) attacks on their bar at a time, the most of any class in the entire game. If they want to, they can completely shut down a single player for 12+ seconds, ensuring their death (provided no stability)

Rangers have volley (which is something.)

And necros have marks, which when utilized properly can be pretty nice.

Deer.1890

Kirrund is right, not having people render, yet still be able to attack for a good amount of damage, and as I said remain unrendered…. is bad play by all the baddies out there…. In no way shape or form can be be people abusing a glitch, then coming here trolling, thinking it is skill …

Don’t know what to tell you. If I don’t have any problems beating it, and the people I play with don’t have any problems with it (it gets used against us plenty of times, but we shut it down)… then… player skill is what needs addressing here. The tools are there. They are available. But some people don’t want to see that, they don’t want to accept the counters; no, that’s too “difficult.” They’d rather just have shallow, zerg-induced snoozefests.

Hymnosi.5928

I’m not against unique mechanics. I’m against mechanics breaking other obvious mechanics. Keeps require tactical measures to take, period. Having an insider mesmer stick around long enough to portal in 25-50 players breaks that mechanic.

What’s the difference in the example you provided, where a wall goes down briefly and a mesmer gets in, versus a mesmer defending a keep that gets taken, and then sticking around long enough after it gets taken? Both results end in the wall being skipped…why is that a problem? What if 30 thieves stacked on top of each other and rotated shadow refuge in an awkward corner of some keep somewhere, until the enemy left, then went and killed the keep lord? Is that anymore legitimate in your eyes? 1 or 30, what’s the difference? The counter is don’t leave enemies in your keep. This is not rocket science. The very same thing applied to games like DAOC and Warhammer for keep sieges; don’t leave enemies in your keep. Entire groups would frequently hide out and retake the keep by killing the lord after the mindless zerg rushed out the gates. It’s nothing new.

I will kill a Mesmer in a heartbeat if they try to breach my assigned walls… I know what to look for and exactly how to counter it… I’ve not seen a Mesmer get a portal in a keep i’ve been assigned to, except that one keep we had for 2 days straight and we still cant figure out how the “got in” and destroyed 2 trebs and a cata… but it’s ok we caught em later with screen shots… haven’t seen em post on the forums since.

Mesmers are not the problem if your being breached.. it’s the army that dropped your wall or door that’s the problem… we just expedite the situation.

SBI has proven for 2 weeks they don’t give a crap what the score is and JQ knows to expect they will fight back… Nothing makes me happier than to be assigned to SBIBL for this very reason …

brogarn.8723

So I guess we’re ending this on a bad note, eh JQ and SBI? Nice double teaming you have going on right now in IoJ. What a change from a great weekend.
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I don’t think we have, in the short history of the game, allied with SBI …. 3 way war means most the time #1 gets focus fire and sometimes it just feels like focus fire when it’s just points of convenience.

we can do 12s of stealth without being specd into it. I think it adds 3s of stealth if you are specd. I’m not specd for that so I can’t testify. It’s not continuous as we use decoy for 3s of it which leaves a "decoy that basically screams “mesmer was here”, begin AoE.

IMO it seems like a lot of time but it’s rarely a solid block of invis time as we can’t sprint without casting and dropping invis and we have to run through AoE Arrow cart snares/cripple.

I play during EST 8am-5pm-ish hours (SBIBL) and we had out-manned quite a bit during the day. Made an entertaining run on garrison with a “why the heck not” as our warcry when we could only muster 9 of us for the whole map lol… we ended up in retreat but didn’t lose anyone.

While out-manned we decided to grab NE tower. First run was unsuccessful (barely) but 3 of us played last man standing holding off SBI as long as we could on the bridge… hoping the guys had the cap in time… no avail that run, but we came back and went through the wall that time.

we did have the “unfortunate for someone”, pleasure of dropping an Omega during mid build… I don’t think we have any SS to share but we did all say a little prayer for the lost Golem soul.

To the 2 SBI gents who thought they had me locked at Stargrove today, I /salute and /bowed if you saw it. It was really close.

Deer.1890:

Kirrund is right, not having people render, yet still be able to attack for a good amount of damage, and as I said remain unrendered…. is bad play by all the baddies out there…. In no way shape or form can be be people abusing a glitch, then coming here trolling, thinking it is skill …

both sides have the same rendering problem … it’s not like people who port in can see either… It is not unbalanced if there is no advantage to one side or the other with rendering. You don’t get a “rendering buff” just because you used a portal.

Today alone I sprinted twice through the hole we made in the wall that was down for half a second as they repped it, ran my ninja mesmering but past Batista and bad guys who were doing everything they could to get me, knowing I WOULD die no question but the job is to get my armies in and past the choke-point not take advantage of rendering. I couldn’t even see all the guys who were shooting me. They sure rendered me, it was only me… The guys I got in couldn’t see the enemy any better than I could and were taking a blind portal to wherever I dropped them. This is NOT “Free”. Not only do I have to survive long enough I have to drop the portal in a place that is not a death trap for the entire army.

I died 3 times trying to get the crew into garrison, not because I didn’t Get portal off , but because the enemy saw where I dropped the first portal and dropped a storm of boddies and AoE on the first portal forcing zerg to scatter or wipe. We never saw them because they hadn’t rendered.* It is a 2 way street.*

This is what spec ops Mesmers do, it is nearly everything about us. We get in, then get everyone else in, and it’s dangerous and the zerg needs to trust you are not going to get them killed by putting them somewhere dumb… Half of then freak out that there’s a portal near them if they don’t know its friendly and move away from it… most of this concern is about not understanding the mechanics and tactics and blaming it on something else.

TJV.6239:

Camp stalling isn’t a problem. Mesmer porting is however. Mesmer porting means that several gold worth of upgrades that a guild puts into a tower or keep suddenly become entirely useless. Basically Mesmer portals make upgrading buildings entirely useless which then eliminates an entire part of intended game tactics – those of using siege equipment and siege warfare. I personally wouldn’t mind if there was a siege weapon or upgrade you could purchase that allowed you to bore through a wall very quickly, or that allowed you to (almost) instantaneously bore a tunnel underground, though it would have to be very expensive. What Mesmer porting provides is a completely free way to break into a castle.

I’m not sure you understand portal mechanics… for a Mesmer to get in you had to have hole in the wall or door at some point. This is not a discussion on exploits only legit portaling.

When a Mesmer portals we have to run up to that location very vulnerable and exposed even with stealth, and in many cases we don’t survive the efforts. You guys make it sound like we risked nothing or didn’t put together a majorly coordinated effort to use multiple Mesmer portals. The only time things are “easy” are when the enemy is complacent with scouts or situational awareness.

It’s a little like watching the catas chip down the walls as you Batista/Mortar them, then being surprised they actually took the wall down. A Mesmer ran up to and most likely through a giant AoE choke point alone in a possible suicide run to move their armies, and no one stopped a single squishy Mesmer who doesn’t have enough stealth to make it that far invis the whole way. You counter siege, you counter, “counter siege”, counter AoE, counter infiltration after every turn over, everyone “Mesmer sweeps”, you counter portals by don’t let them get it down (kill the Mesmer), don’t let them breech.

I feel like I’m playing football every event as I bob and weave to get past all your Mesmer blockers… you saw me coming (or had the ability to), and some knew to counter it (more and more everyday), and I got through, and my friends will be here shortly for all that effort.

When there’s a render/culling issue it is mutually hindering both sides. No one has that advantage. Both sides have AoE restrictions. I’m not referring to exploits or bugs issues, only legit Anet intended uses of Mesmer portal.

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SBI 91.7k
JQ 91.2k
IoJ 86.1k

JQ has lost it this way we reported him, we got Screen shots and got toon names etc.. It just does no good to complain about it here only to report them and a GM or whatever they have here will catch them.

I’m excited for the day we no longer see the name on thees forums.

JQ neither encourages nor condones exploits as a server and we have no more control over “some random idiot” as any other server does theirs. Report them get screen shots and laugh inside that they had to exploit because they just didn’t have enough confidence to go get what they wanted within the EULA.

In honesty much of these events are not hacks, exploits etc and misunderstandings about how Mesmer work (as we get blamed a lot), but for those that are, everyone gets caught eventually, and no pity for them when they do.

As a mesmer u can hit everything at blue lake legit theres no need to exploit. We tend to try to hide and not let u find us as much as possible… but this seems like a silly way to exploit something we can allready do. Non mesmers confuse the clone as us so much when calling hacks… there is no safe location in the lowerlands for seige.

join public TS/Vent/Mumble server if they have one. (Ask in /Map/Team)
don’t take supplies from keeps except in emergency wall/door repairs.
Group up, move together if not a solo friendly class especially.
Give as accurate numbers as possible and be clear with locations and directions when scouting.

GL and Have fun!

It’s killing me to not log back in right now lol, some nice excitement happening in SBI BL. Someone tell me that’s not the SBI ORB they got back cuz the last orb fight a few hours ago was pretty exciting.

FunkyPhasers.8496:

“Don’t be a Yakass.”

-Yak’s Bend

I loved this one lol!

Ours should be “gogogo” or “Mesmers gogogo !!!”

In T1 it takes more than 1 person to guard the yak, its a group effort at least. So if only one person was guarding it then there are several classes who could likely kill a yak in under 10 seconds and not stress about 1 escort stopping them.

The reason they can have the luxury of killing it so fast is they were not worried about the one escort and can blow cool-downs and not stress exit route.

I’ve been stuck underneath the dock at bay before right in front of the front inside gate… it sucked to wait for combat reset to port out as everyone and their cousin was trying to kill me. When I finally got to wp out it was of course over but i ended up wasting like 10 minutes stuck there not out killing peeps… but its a little rare for it to happen.

I waited hours to get in today .. it was a solid T1 fight and worth every minute of the wait. Everything is a trade off. No queue times less competitive fight, more competition more wait. I’m not going anywhere.

It’s come up soo many times how much of a misconception placement is perceived as higher priority than the cumulative point value.

Nalukai.8946:

its not rude its frustrating… people are making seige weapons on top of vistas preventing you from getting htem; how is this OP so hard to understand? and they are NOT destructible this was an area in a keep we just got that the blue team took from the red; and we are green team; the blue team laid down this seige on the top of the garrison to make it impossible to view the vista. this has been going on quite a while in several games and im surprised noone has addressed this yet. i mean really? what more info do you want man? you didnt really have to read between the lines in the first post to actually understand what im saying? sorry if this post comes off rude but i am quite perturbed at the moment

Because, you didn’t say it was enemy laid siege, that it was a bug, or some other set up. I know what you are talking about we were discussing it. But you asked “how to destroy siege that’s hard to get to..” that’s how it came off, intended or not. And yes the frustration is understood and shared, but the responder was being sincere.

In any case what makes the siege indestructable? ie is it untargetable? because I’ve targeted it and marked it. It is immune to AE? does it take minimal damage etc? I never try to destroy it as im Mesmer hunting usually. If it is a bug we should all be /bug reporting whenever comes up not just posting here too, and the more details the better for devs.

/agree @Storm

It’s not just about who will be T1 next week it’s about the pride of the fight imo… Which has been fun and challenging so far all around!

Askil.8301:

From “down” where we are, the higher ranked servers seem alot more equal, in just the fact they all got a night time presence, compared to us.

While we can compete on fairly even terms during primetime, we get steamrolled during the rest of the day usually.

Our solution to this, is to try to get more people to play during that time period. It is by no means easy or a quick fix though. So I understand why some people prefer to just switch server.

Apologies if my response seemed arrogant it was not meant to be derogatory nor arrogant, only mathematical… I didn’t mean “down” to be this way, sincere apologies if it came off this way.

even though your response was a bit rude… if you don’t offer information like was it a friendly placed siege, or an enemy siege and what makes an enemy siege indestructible etc, it makes it difficult for people to know exactly what you are asking. He answered the question you posed in ernest I suspect.

Once you take a keep the enemy siege is destructible, unless you are referring to a bug .. which again could have been stated to avoid… dramatic responses.

not all servers have an organized guild, or a community building friendly environment… I think many left those to go to something “better”, and if you are looking for more organization or a stronger community you tend to be attracted to something T2/T1 IMO as a lower risk factor of wasting time jumping from server to server.

I really feel T1 is starting to balance because of xfers. It’s not just who is winning people are flocking too, it’s who is offering an environment they want to play in. Some want to not listen to the same terd yell at everyone and claim he basically soloed the map, some want to just be in a close match, some just want to have a connection with their commanders/active guilds …

I know it’s not popular but I’m hopeful time will balance that the servers with high end wvw desires will be in top 2 tiers consistently and as you progress down the tiers you get more casual server environments…

I came from FA… I do know what you are saying. Not saying the server sucks, just that there is no voice, no leadership or WvW focused guilds to even start working with to get it changed. Which is a shame because there were lot of good players, just not crazy WVW-esque.

There also declined into a lot of /T and /M about everyone being stupid for not doing the “obvious”… did not build a supportive community environment for WvWers to want to invest in. It was fun and exciting in Beta, but I swear day after head start people started blaming everyone and lots of “you all suck because this is obvious” …

Course things could be diff since my point of view was made…

aside from JP, every objective on the map has 3+ main entrances/exits. The only unnecessary ones to “camp” are the southern spawns (not center citadel it fair game as its a launching point to every asset on the northern map), as there is no nearby objective to justify holding the players in for great lengths of time. I’ve never seen the 2 side entrances to these camped ever, and only the main one extensively to push back while taking the small towers in the south.

In these cases this is defending assets and cutting off reinforcements… which still gives 2 other viable flanking routes that are poor strategic spawn camps.

A note to being upset about being “spawned camped” in the southern bases… those are invader bases. The home team and other invaders should have the viable right to push invaders all the way back to their lands and hold them out, imo. It is a game about pushing out invaders, taking back homelands and invading other lands.

What is bull is if a player is invulnerable (on cliff etc) they should not be able to damage but even that is “eh whatever” to me, and it annoys me often at cliff-side and long-view etc.

Killing players as they come out to try and take the northern supply is not “spawn camping”, its defending territory and assets.

alanis.6094:

JQ truly showed this week what type of server they are…

-Zerging and camping throughout the day, bringing 50+ ppl when 10 enemies take a supply camp
-Getting pushed back during prime-time, despite the 3 orb bonus and all structures upgraded

and now, up by 260k prior to the reset the next day, players from your server exploiting/glitching to take Sharadan Hills on the JQ Borderland.

I’m quite certain that you guys probably have some honorable guilds and players, as most in this thread have been respectable. It is a shame that those in the game are trash.

It might be overkill to have many vs little, but it’s not meant to be insulting we just come take the target called, you shouldn’t take that as an insult just standard game-play IMO. I’ve been steamrolled many a time and said oh snap they wanted that back i guess.. then dusted off and tried again.

I don’t know a single player or event where a JQ has intentionally tried to glitch or xploit one of the towers, we had a group do it to US this week and people were pretty disgusted over the behavior. We made a thread with screenshots in this forum. We don’t claim that the entire server is a bunch of cheaters, just the exploiter we caught on SS.

As a mesmer people are always claiming we are exploiting something when we are playing within our characters intended methods. The longer the game goes the smarter people have become at countering a lot of mesmer siege breaking abilities. Yesterday at cliffside was a great example of how hard peeps been making it for mesmer siege destruction and the resulting giant hole in garrison wall for a little bit, was the reward.

We can’t throw our CLONES on you without having some line of sight, but it can appear different if they are thrown at the front door, but that’s just graphics. I don’t know a way to portal into an un-breached keep… if i did i would report the glitch via bug report, as this is game ruining behavior to exploit. I don’t know anyone who does it either.

/decoy 2, steps back. /time warp /recast the “zerg”

=p i feel like its a game of battleship now

AnthonyZdravko.2051:

Stormbluff isle…every night we come on to 99% of the map taken and 3x orb buff for Jade Quarry, and every night we manage to take a 50/50split(sometimes more) of the map for a few hours before being overrun due to lack of numbers. Even with the impossible to get glitched orb that is always in Jade Quarrys hands no matter who owns the keep it is in.

We’re outnumbered and out-buffed but we still try to cling on against Jade henge of denravi’s Quarry.

aside from how much I <3 JQ, I’d nominate SBI, they don’t quit.. a lot of servers could find enjoyment modeling this imo. (i’ve only played against T2/T1 apologies for not knowing other Tiers scrappiness). These mother scratchers will make us sweat everyday to hold/take back or curse every keep on the maps… imo they should get award. If I hadn’t already fallen in love with JQ lol …

and ps we dont condone any intention orb glitching… least i’ve never heard it on TS and don’t know any who would intentionally do so… for record cuz that stuff suxorz.

we should do 10 Mesmers… it would look like a zerg on the map and everyone would flee or QQ it was some sort of portal bomb /tongue-in-cheek

Arasuki.6094

Vixena.3821:

krojack.4920:

Booooooring.

Common fight back!

Why don’t you transfer over to SBI? You will always have a constant fight! Win win!

with that kind of attitude, i dont want him in SBI.

… i doubt anyone wants this, sorry you had to endure poor sportsmanship.

we saw it happen a few times this week. “Spires” building rams on our own garrison supply camp and walls as a hacked/sploit crew ports into a garrison thats been held for 3 days straight rips through one side of the seige equipment…

We were on top of it quickly and got it all rebuilt in minutes but it was obvious.

maybe xfers should have a 48 hour restriction on supply use .. idk brainstorming.

We were discussing on severwide TS today how much SBI has really brought the fight to the matchup .. everyone agreed you guys building a good rep for not giving up, fighting till the fat lady sings and all, and prolly even defiling her corpse a bit… We defiantly getting a sense that SBI has a lot of server pride and makes the matchup a lot of fun for those of us who also love the fight and feel server pride.

I usually only play heavily during “work” hours NA time, but I’ve been drawn into borderlands many times this week because SBI has just really been showing their presence to the whole WvW community. It’s been an honor to play both servers this week regardless of the score and looking forward to much more of it.

Many of us are looking forward to seeing HoD again also either when/if we drop down to T2 or HoD projected return to T1 in a few weeks. One of my favorite fights this week was about 1-2 hours long defending Norhern supply camp in Blue. Some serious not going home empty handed mentality by that HoD crew. And the quote of the week on TS was “HoD whyyyyy????” when you guys came in out of no where and rocked us as we were fighting SBI to take back DB… it was great fights that day (tue I think). Its a good lesson no matter what the score is always play like it’s day one.

In any case, thanks for the continued great fights and classy forums atmosphere, really looking forward to next week!

The major reason for not getting explorer and wearing a pin as a mesmer is it’s a neon sign to anyone who half pays attention, well and I hate exploring prefer to kill PCs and all too =p

You can tell who knows how to spot the mesmer pretty quick and gotta be tricky about it, but thieves just so fast it’s really futile to try and trick em you just gotta kill em, cuz all the mesmer movement give you away when you go against thief imo. They have less pressure to evade when circling you in stealth …

@Griff.9302
apologies i was typing from my phone and hence being lazy with punctuation.

No I wasn’t saying you said “they suck”. I was comparing that saying their victory is lame, is like when the winners say the losing team sucks… it comes off “poor sporty”, even if it wasn’t meant to be that way.

And I didn’t mean to single you out eiter, it was meant to be more general to all the comments about how “xxx server didn’t really win because they have more players, or a 24 clock, or they made an alliance or whatever”, there’s tons of it floating around this forum.

A server should have some pride and community enthusiasm, its what gets em through the zerglings to come lol. As long as it’s in good sport I think its healthy, personally.

Idk why diminishing someones acomplishment enhances anothers game enjoyment… when they said it was diing a diservice it hints to the kid who refuses to shake hand after a game because they didnt get any runs. Aside from exploiters a win should be craciously congradulated or silently scorned. Its as poor taste as winners saying the other team sucked to diminish a win.

we didn’t go from number 1 to suffering through issues… we went with he server the clan picked for us tried to participate, tried to offer contributions to the community but never fit in.. we didn’t move to a number 1 server… we went to a near random server.

I’m not saying HoD members have no right to xfer.. just don’t say I’m a #1 server hopper. We did it for months not a week…

fixit.7189:

Arani.9057:

peeps should pick their server for what they want 6 months from now .. not by an influx that has been 1-2 weeks old and likely to shift with the next big thing. Those who xfer off a full server because of queue times, are not much better as it doesn’t allow for settling. The xfer zerg will go to what they want, and you either ride it out or become part of it.

Anything you say now is of no importance after reading another post where you admitted moving to JQ to get into a ‘good wvwvw community’. That is pretty much saying; I went to JQ to win all the time with no effort. But I am comforted in the knowledge that if JQ starts to decline, I am certain you will move to the next best thing like everyone else does.

I have xfered once, and picked a server only “2 ranks” higher than my own on a random choice that 5 of us picked. All 5 of my primary crew decide we were not on a good server fit and each picked a server at random/liked server name etc… my server choice won the dice roll… we picked JQ when it was #4 and no where near #1 and only 2-3 ranks above what we were on.

The server we were on was WvW community nonexistent and degrading into bullying and derogatory comments to all who wanted to input more than just throw thyself at random door. We all came from end game environments ad desired more collaboration more pvp community less you are all dumb because clearly he who buys 100g is the only one who knows anything about pvp…

JQ will lose, like everyone else, and I will be there throwing my clones at whatever target the CMD has called emphatically. We specifically ruled out HoD and SBI at the time because of how high ranked they WERE at the time… everyone loses. we moved for community not ranking. I appreciate your point of view but wvw community is different than wvw ranking.

I picked the server I want for 6 months from now… the one that people trust the known commanders who donated to get them pins who put up with drama quietly to keep the peace, who intelligently herds the masses and who will outlast the ranking dramas… IMO of course.

I really love what SBI brings during my playtimes — NA (EST) workday hours.

SBI plays like it’s Friday matchup everyday, when I’ve been on and it really gives a good fight. I think SBI has heart and drive they should be proud of. Most of my solos and all of my 1vMany fights end up in /salute /bow to SBI determination.