Guild Wars 2

I make a steady 2-5g a day in daily wvw rewards not counting what I make on market or components farming, which is more than WvW rewards.

Following a commander tends to earn a lot more cash than not in MOST cases IMO. If enemy has you pretty locked down it does get tougher but not impossible to still do turn overs at least.

Gank groups make more more rewards money, but the zerg might get more badges and junk sales. Solo missions don’t pay well for the time investments but are sometimes necessary.

^ that’s great np, no criticism for reals.

And like I said I have no problem peeps seeing my name, which is why it even says what BL I’m assigned to, but you shouldn’t be able to spam invites to me to either see where I am or cause distraction when I’m hiding in a keep. You shouldn’t be able to harass me by threatening to report me and all my kind for our legit actions, not should be able to send me tells at all in Wv3 that causes distractions from my mission.

My counter is it makes harassing and griefing easier than it already is across servers. get the ability for enemies to know your name, and then they know your name…

dooger.2640:

The corner cases of someone sending tells you dont want are easily stopped with block.

I have people in my guild that came from the opposite faction in previous games as we had fun fighting each other.

Players are the content in a sandbox, playing vs great players and those rematches are why people like pvp.

This game is a pale sad shadow of what it has the potential to be, it is too bad really.

With no subs our ability to vote is very limited, but if they want to sell xpacks to more than just people playing it as a single player pve game, they need to address names.

How am I to block someone who hasn’t sent the tell yet. And block is a reactionary work around not a preemptive one. You block AFTER they have already harassed you. A commander can’t pre-block the people sending him tells from the other side during the fight. The Mesmer can’t Pre-block group invites or tells form other-side trying to figure out where they are…

There are genuine opsec issues that just saying colorful yet meaningless “pale shadow” descriptions doesn’t counter.

@Phixion.2140
the players who DON’T want to be known are likely spec ops types or deserve their privacy choice. If you wanna be known put your char/server in your sig and start making friends.

@Kardiamond.6952,

While necro doesn’t get the hype the Mesmer thieves, guardians, eles… ok like everyone gets, I love to due with my necro friend as what I can’t do he can and visa versa. A lot of the time All I gotta do is make sure he doesn’t die he’ll drop boddies to the floor nicely.

He also has a guard and a Mesmer, of the 3 I prefer the necro to duo with. We both play ranged mostly and between his green dots and mine we look like 8 green dots on the map which can really hold a lot of people at bay for a long time in 2vMany terms.

and engineers like to make some of my best laid siege destruction plans go awry reeeeeeal fast. I will continue to try and get some more shots in when most classes drop down on me but ENG, it’s /decoy and dodge and come back when I’m sure he’s alone. All the Eng needs is one person to keep me in one spot for a second and it goes bad quickly. It’s not about winning the 1v1 it’s he can keep me from my mission or drop my health pool low fast that anyone else can finish me off if not paying attention.

I’m cool with peeps seeing my name, but I know the minute I drop a poor portal and kill everyone a /dance just isn’t enough it’s on the forums of take that xxx character etc… as if the lame posturing and blame game stuff in the server threads didn’t already kinda suck.

Also like at least half or more of the replies here are anonymous posters, don’t know what server, character profession etc they play. So I’m skeptical from an anon type players saying yeah reveal names.

the only ones who would eally be noticed on regular basis are in 1v1 type stuff, and high profile professions like thief, mes, commanders, etc…

Also I think it’s bad enough our server is getting tells atm that they are being reported when found legitimately hiding in a keep not 5 minutes after a breach. Our Mesmer get tells, or the commander getting lame tells about don’t attack us or else /lol. I get random group invites when it’s slipped on TS that im planted somewhere to find where I am by blue dot… oh yeah I’ll take one by saying fell for it once, lol on me. Got asaked by another server hey how did you get int he keep, I said how thinking it was a server-mate making sure i wasn’t cheating, bam within minutes of revealing intel guess who comes swimmin by… I also don’t fall for that anymore, but you can see inter server comms during the battle just endanger opsec.

That stuff would just get worse. We don’t need tell hell drama in Wv3 IMO.

yaks and sentries are points.

Thanos.2970:

Arani.9057:

Thanos.2970:

As long as other classe do need LoS to cast the mesmer should, too. I guess it is just an other bug and hope it will get fixed before 2013.

all classes are not the same and all have trade offs. Just because The Ele can AoE better than anyone or heal for that matter, or a thief/necro ele or well like anyone can run faster than a Mesmer doesn’t make them bugged.

Unless a Dev states that this is intended I do consider it a bug. The fact that not even all mesmer pets behave like this makes it even more obvious.

because it’s the only melee phantasm pet with a 1200 range
And our clones (corporeal) don’t work this way only the phantasms. The scepter one (other melee phantasm) doesn’t reach as far into a keep and only works on walls.

Thanos.2970:

As long as other classe do need LoS to cast the mesmer should, too. I guess it is just an other bug and hope it will get fixed before 2013.

all classes are not the same and all have trade offs. Just because The Ele can AoE better than anyone or heal for that matter, or a thief/necro ele or well like anyone can run faster than a Mesmer doesn’t make them bugged.

out of curiosity all the people saying Mesmer, thief, necro etc are they all Mesmer and thief or just other classes commenting on what X class etc bring to the Wv3 world.

Cuz the guy with a necro main sig is saying roll a Mesmer, for example. Why would you not either roll the class you recommend, or recommend the class you play?

Out of curiosity?

Bambam.3961:

First off I would like to say that Tier 1 has been fun the past week and a half.

For those who are saying that BG just isn’t ready for Tier 1, I ask why? We dominate tier 2 all the time, sometimes holding both opponents to less than 10,000 in a whole week. We came in 2nd last week in tier 1 (with the hurricane and Halloween event, even though all realms didn’t have full force, it’s still 2nd place).
Som might say we don’t belong because our strategies lack, well that’s simply because we are still used to face rolling tier 2 and not used to actual fights. Give us a few weeks to adjusts our strategies and we will progressively get better.

I am from Blackgate and I will straight up say JQ and SBI are better than us, there’s no denying that.

And using the whole orb hacking reason to say we aren’t ready, let me tell you that was one guild doing that hack and they do not represent how the rest of us in Blackgate play.
Most of us on Blackgate do not applaud those kind of tactics.

We are losing right now, but many thought we would have flat out been dominated, but that just didn’t happen. We are still around with a good chunk of points.

If we were to go back to tier 2, we would probably just dominate that and you would see us in tier 1 the next week again anyway.

We are ready for Tier 1, we may not be better than SBI or JQ but we have the potential and being in Tier 1 week in and week out we will progressively get better and give you guys a better fight.

Good luck to all realms and have fun!

It is great to see the sportsmanship oriented BG members. It looks like we will be playing each other a bit more in future regardless of this placement as JQ and SBI have no perma “auto-lock” on T1,and yeah 2nd or 3rd place in T1 is nothing to sneeze at IMO since well, we (JQ) took both those placements recently :-P. Not a one of us can say we’ve been T1 continuously since day one.

It’s definitely not just about getting number one slot, although there’s defiantly a sense of accomplishment for it, it should be about enjoying the competition, and ideally the competitors too, but that might be reaching for some lol.

I get why the AoE cap is in place and think it’s smart and important, but what I’m tired of is how much the turtle or clustering/stacking however term the concept of all pixels on one spot either makes people who play ranged only, or melee only for that matter be forced to play a body to reduce damage.

Portal already has a lot of dangers in it, I portaled my group to their deaths shortly after portaling them to an awesome devastating siege destruction just beforehand… we mess up too. But I hate how AoE cap makes people cluster as a sole tactic to the point of wasting 5 minutes just crying stack on me etc…

EQ1 was 2 hours of buffing for a 10-15 minute fight. I loved the game but as MMOs have evolved I never want to go back to that as a buff bot in a previous life. I drop first half of portal commander has 60-70s to get them organized and ready for airdrop. I don’t want to spend 5 mins prepping to portal 200 feet.

It’s the AoE cap that doesn’t force a zerg off the portal pad not the portal. It is the AoE cap that allows a mesmer to be lazy and drop a portal in the middle of a zerg in stead of strategically. I see the lazy portal bombs and as a mesmer it’s insulting to think it’s all we do by some, and especially those who roll a mesmer just to portal.

Where you put the portal should mean as much as all the other aspects, but if you don’t fear AoE then a lazy mesmer has very little need to use that trickery and sneakiness. Like I said portals get shut down just as much as they work, but a lot of that is lazyness is due to little to no AoE fear IMO.

WvW is not supposed to be “fair” the fairness is when you get stomped, you are supposed to either drop to a better match-up next week or the stompeee raises to a higher challenge next week. It’s not arrow carts, you are up against stronger forces and have not yet mastered countering them yet, or lack the brute numbers to compete at that tier, or your opponent is in the wrong tier.

Every week the server match ups gets closer to evened out, but takes time., and even still there will always be some weird upset or monekey wrench thrown in, hence the dynamic nature of the set up.

I can see an arrow cart going down faster, cuz they do. They are close range you don’t need to be all that close to the danger to get one, Also most Carts can be hit by AoE rings regardless of where they are put by the nature of their radius, but that’s not the same as a treb, mortar, cat, Balista etc… a balista that wont let you get more than one zerk on it takes a little while if they don’t come try and kill you let alone while evading, trebs sure as kitten are not 2 minutes with or without distractions.

Working down the balistas on cliffside/craig can be nightmare takes forever if not enough to watch your back and then you have the xfire of the ones on other side. Those sure do not go down in 2 minutes regardless of how hard you hit, as an example.

Trebs on overlook, durios etc etc all take forever as the NPCs will 1 shot your zerks and the enemy will come mess with you, and some of the popular treb sites have very little escape routes to boot, slowing it down even more.

Half the time it’s just to keep them in the know that they can’t just sit in their house and treb from their bathroom and not expect someone to come throw a rock through the window at their sitting pretty no risk treb.

We’re talking about siege equipment that goes uncontested and can reach enemy strongholds. If they didn’t have a vulnerability it would be stalemates or who has more people on line to hold the wholes in the walls.

MadJock.8710:

If they could fix the rendering then,

The logical counter to portaling is AoE, all net have to do is remove the silly restriction of 5 targets,its that or make portals only able to portal people the mesner are partied with (5 max)

That 5 target restriction yet again favours the side with larger number,i honestly think removing it would help balence a few other areas as well as giving the people using the portal the same risk as there intended victims.

I play a mesner, and while i agree that portaling should stay an be a valid tactic, i dont agree with the heavy usage its getting due to rendering giving the using group 2-5 secs of free dps

we can’t see the enemy either. There is no portal culling buff. Those on the portal have a giant pink circle that says “enemy here”, we have to estimate where we think you are or go on scout reports. The Mesmer can usually see and you can see the Mesmer we the zergs cannot see each other.

fixit.7189:

Thus it’s ok for them to go through walls and attack stuff no one else can?

Gotcha.

so because a thief can stealth others need it too, or an ele AoE abilities or heals everyone else deserves that… yeah the professions are supposed to have variety. We don’t AoE, We don’t heal, We can’t even sprint unless we use a weapon that is near useless in Wv3

So yeah make all the classes the same gotcha.

Spartyr.6795:

Portals should at least be able to be targeted and destroyed. Doesn’t help with the invisible enemies issue, but it’s at least some defense against the portal bomb.

I think it’s kind of neat idea to make a portal destructible, however they would never get off unless that had a lot of HP as you can see the portal long before we can see you and visa versa with the culling and there is more than enough delay time between its visibility and active state that any medium size group could destroy it before anyone got through let alone the Mesmer to go home.

As is you see a portal and AoE bombs are already dropped on it before it’s even activated and people can use it. But I think it’s cool concept.

fixit.7189:

Shatter for around 3k ish. I have 13k hps due to usin +heal/power/toughness set and havin the lowest health in game as ele. So ok, maybe not as much as I said but they most certainly do NOT tickle despite what mesmers proclaim.

I can accept serkers doing tons of dmg but what I can’t understand is why mesmer clones are exempt from the ’don’t go through/up walls’ rule that applies to all the other classes with pets.

because our pets are disposable, the other classes are not. They are always up. We have to recast every mob.

fixit.7189: "Hum, mesmers are so strong despite what they say that they are weak.

So I set up a pult in Bravost on the back wall little while ago during a siege and this mesmer kept sending serkers at me non stop. They went through the wall, hit me for 900 × 6 with that whirly ability, and then it explodes. One serker seems to always drop me to 20% with 2.1k toughness in one move, so no…they don’t just tickle.

Anyrate, serker spam killed pult pretty quick. I then go look for this mesmer and he’s humping the wall sending clones through it at the few defenders there.

Pretty cheesy imo.

Kinda amusing to watch them go through walls and attack stuff beyond 1200 m, I admit."
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1. We arn’t “weak” we have our own set backs, Movements speed, AoE ability, constant need to recast “disposable pets” every mob, we can’t wear titles or pins outside of the zerg, Pets weapons give away who is mes who is pet, We have 1 generally agreed upon marketable weapon in the siege which conflicts with many mesmers spec desires, etc..

1. they don’t hit you six times, they do a quad strike. And rarely survive for more than one pass unless specd for it.

1. they not only do not cast beyond 1,200 they often will not cast at 1,200 at all with certain elevation obstructions.

1. if you are dropping to 20% in one pass you do not have great gear, have vulnerability on you etc etc etc, that is like blaming the engineer for one shotting you with 5 stacks of vulnerability on you.

1. You must spec appropriately and wear the right gear to max a serkers damage. I’m full exotic everything berserker gear, and full Zerker beefiness, it takes me 40ish mins to solo kill a treb, 10-20 minutes to do other siege solo. It is an annoyance to the guy trebbing thinking he is invulnerable or deserves to be invulnerable to have to keep killing an izerker or deal with the mesmer.

1. Clones do almost NO damage, they are decoys or fodder only. They require LoS in all cases. If a mes has LoS on you and and gets a clone on you they will blow them up on you which is not the zerkers damage. I have seen many times someone on wall not realize they are not hidden and gotten clone damage on them, in some cases even siege. This is from putting siege too close to walls or forgetting about the hill that is within 1200. Also not our fault.

Zerkers are not different than warlocks they are just melee and ilocks are ranged. The melee illusions spawn on the target or spawn and run to it, the ranged ones stay near the caster.

So many people coming and “testifying” about inaccurate things just to put fuel on fire because they feel siege should be indestructible. If you don’t play a mes and don’t understand how we got LoS on you then that doesn’t make Mes OP it means you overlooked something.

If you’re sitting there from overlook or durios, trebbing SM for hours on end with no apparent risks and you think that you’re treb on the edge of the walls deserves to be safe you have to be off rocker. Siege should never be safe. If it’s target-able it should have risk just like any player character.

When I’m on siege and a mes drops a zerk on me I handle it,just like if there was AoE going off people would push the AoE off, or just call it lost because they can’t stop it.

If everyone thinks Mesmers are so OP why are there so few, and so many Ele’s and thieves. Every time the call to take out siege is made I see 3-4 of each Ele and ranger running to the sides and I’m looking around, yep the only skirt sporting a great sword. There are more Mesmers on my server now than there were a couple months ago, but when I joined the server all I heard was yay finally some Mesmers.

Too many people want to have a class that can do everything. It’s not enough to have the ability to drop 15 bags in a zerg for an AoE class they want to be able to cast through walls now, not enough their pets don’t need recasting, they need to be invisible too, Not enough to not have to have a target to cast your abilities they want to have a pet too, not enough to be able to perma stealth they should be able to survive lots of damage too…

Mesmers been complaining since day 1 we have so little AoE we get crap for badges. We have so little speed ability we take forever to move across the map… we have our complaints we just don’t call please nerf Eles and thiefs and necros etc because they can all move sooooo much faster than us. We don’t get a single heal as a utility class unless we spec for it, but Ele’s masters of the turtle survivability heals/regen unlimited… anyone can say the other classes are OP. Rangers can hit things further than anyone else… why are we not saying it’s time to cut that back. Why should rangers be able to shoot arros at things they cant see? Why does an Ele only need to touch the edge etc etc… cry about what you want fixed for your class stop blaming mesmers for wanting to do everything with one class.

It’s because the nature of what Mesmer do is annoying, it bruises the ego. Pages and pages of “nerf Moa”… the dumbest ability we have IMO but nerf it,because it annoys people to not have control for 10s, when a group of ELEs can make 40+ players invincible for a time and thieves can escape all danger or perma stealth and the list goes on and on and on. Stop blaming Mesmer for annoying you.

fixit.7189:

No other class pets can climb walls; but mesmers can.

So on that train of thought…let all pets climb walls.

I want to see bears eating trebs!

no other class can stealth like a thief so lets all have that, no other class can decimate a zerg like a war or heal like an Ele or one shot like an engineer… Proffessions are supposed to have differences.

If you want invisible pets and micromanage 3 illusions that die when the target dies then recast then roll a Mesmer, if you want a pet you never have to recast except when its dead play the other pet classes.

If you roll Mesmer in Wv3 and don’t have situational awareness and don’t learn the class you will get laughed at thinking its some OP easy mode class. If your server doesn’t learn to trust you ie, they see you doing some wow awesome thing, they will ignore your portals or yell at you for casting them near them and freaking them out.

In other words be good at it or play something that’s not so spotlight.

I only play Mesmer. I like Elementalist and Thief is a blast (although I think I suck at it), but I’ve been playing Mesmer since beta and find the challenge of finding newer bigger and better tricks to be the great reward of the class. Everything once it’s common knowledge gets put on priority list to be countered you need to stay ahead of the game as Mes IMO. Always need to have a new trick in your bag or yesterdays news.

And every-time you come up with a new awesome move, everyone will flame that you hacked or are OP, then they will figure out how it was done, counter it then call you weak for trying “some old trick”…

you need a target to cast berserker but it does an AoE sweep in a straight line. It is a thin line not like an arc, straight so it’s not a huge AoE radius.

We do get obstructed when we try to cast something corporeal like clones or even any of our auto attack stuff and we have no AoE to generally speak of outside of chaos storm which does nothing to siege as it causes condition damage only nothing DD.

The only thing we have that allows us to do any damage at all during a siege is our berserker, outside of slapping the door. It’s not instant cast it has like 6 hp, exaggeration, and you think the Zerker is OP compared to like all AoE rings, wells, rangers arrows, etc… it’s pretty in line. For the first 3 months the mes forums said nothing about the kitteness of the zerker and all us Mesmer who used it…

6k my kitten. they hit the dummy in lions arch for 1.2k. They are rarely alive for more than one pass unless you spec to make them do so which means you have given up a lot of other forms of 1v1 dps.

The game was made so people could specialize in something by specking into it and sacrificing other options. A Mesmer who specs to kill siege and wall huggers has done the same as any thief, warrior, or guardian for what they prefer to focus on.

I would like to see color code difference also. It is a pita to have to call out on TS every-time I want to port myself so the forces don’t freak out.

clones require LoS as they are physical.
Phantasms are “ghosts”/non-corporeal light based entities and can pass through/climb walls. They are light projections not physical meteors or arrows or iceburgs from heaven and have no collision.

The NPCs will kill our zerkers faster than we can put them up unless they are specd to be beefed up. We are also slightly bugged with the spec that gives them HP(and other specd buffs) as it doesn’t trigger on cast but 1s after cast so it’s still a 1 shot from an NPC. I’m Specced with full force beefcake Zerkers and it takes me a long time to take down siege all by myself, and ends up cat and mouse shadow games to get down one poorly placed treb. It can take 45 minutes to get one down solo, where as begging a ranger or an ele to just come drop a rock on it takes 60s.

We NEED a target. No target no Zerker, unlike AoE and ring type casters.

limiting number of portalled turns Mesmer into a buff bot IMO.

You still need to port just as many people to do supply runs, for example but in stead of Mesmer taking turns playing taxi driver by ones and twos, they will do nothing but sit on high cliffs in groups and wait for the call to come pick up the group. It’s bad enough to sit in a keep for hours hoping for a chance to be the hero let alone the no fame “hey come pick us up 5 at a time for cliff-side supplies…”

It would be like working the jumping puzzle but for your whole WvW life, which I already don’t dig.

I had a blackgate response of “haha” in response to losing to SBI, basically to one of my posts in another thread.. the one about corpse dancing etc… but it was before they were in our match up and SBI had just pulled out their 3rd quarter adrenaline kick (need to steroid test their mid week guys), like they like to do, and not a singe SBI snide comment for that slightly humiliating score flip, but a BG felt he had right to put our noses in it…

I’m ok with it I said “GG” to SBI and agreed we all lose, but yeah all those guys did more harm than good as many BG players have already said.

I really don’t want to lump all of BG into one category or dumb nickname cuz none of JQ liked being JQQ or JQueueQueue (slightly funnier though) for that matter but I really hope players on all sides are paying attention. Mom taught me not to gloat until I’d won in the first place and even then “gloating feels good until it comes back on you, everyone loses”.

Centrix.4065:

This queue-thing is still bugged or something, because sometimes I get in WvW within 3 minutes while others have been in the queue for 30 minutes.

Right now: I’ve been in the queue for over 2 hours, while others get in within 10 or 20 minutes. Some other people I know have the same problem sometimes, but one just got in (also after 2 hours).

I queue earlier than guildies, but they get in sooner.

I can’t find any good explanation by ArenaNet.

Seriously, how does this work? Is it bugged or are some unknown priorities.

there is a bug. We have a rule of thumb, during normal times if you queue longer than 10-15 minutes re-queue. Whenever someone else gets in shorter q time than you same thing.

The way it was explained to me the bug continues to just put you at the end of the queue over and over when you get it. Re-queue is work around for it.

from that SS I recognize at least one leader who’s primary philosophy is push SBI. He’s also smart enough to know when upgrading you don’t spread to thin and take keeps you can’t defend for no reason “just to take”.

And to be nice, a tip is people hit camps and skip towers for supply runs specifically to do stuff that end up taking towers and keeps, or to repair or build siege elsewhere. Honestly this is likely the most apparent thing and guarantee SBI peeps noticed and might have even thanks you nicely for the free intel. Don’t say never gave ya nothing.

So you aided SBI by posting intel on JQ movements and what towers they scouted and skipped, and that they skipped a sentry to boot and called JQ a lapdog…

hey a little off topic, but for reals anyone have current score?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA is 3 hours old and I am family timing it up today.

EB is not the same strat as the borderlands, and homeland boarderland is a different animal than a “push” map (that when you are the invader if still in dark).

If some BG members spend less time crying fraud and conspiracy against the sovereign server of BlackGate and learned form the multiple servers who have come and gone form T1 both SBI and JQ included, then you might enjoy it more. All this does is say “hey we aren’t ready for this yet”. Which IMO is no shame.

p.s. in JQBL it’s ALL our territory YOU are an invader…

turn game clock on in-game and set to UTC or server time you will have answer for all future issues like this.

Distaste.4801:

kidbs.8920:

@Rhino
Put on your bigboy pants (if you have any) and welcome to tier 1. You consider being in the lead during a few days when seasonal PvE events were occurring and hacks were rampant as “crushing” your opponents? You don’t realize that mid-week scores mean nothing. Grats on being in the lead for 2 days only to lose it all in the end.

I’m sorry that SBI and JQ don’t mindlessly start attacking each other in a total free-for-all of non-strategic idiocy like you are wanting. WvW is like a sea of sharks… when something is bleeding all of the sharks will home in the prey.

I think some of you guys never got a chance to fight against real adversity due to being and up and coming bandwagon server, so you didn’t get the necessary experience to handle T1. It’s easy to ride the zerg over outmanned lower tier servers and pound your chest, but you didn’t get much experience from it in the end.

BG was in the lead for 4 out of 7 days, I wouldn’t say that was merely a few days. Hacks/exploits were rampant on all sides, still are, just some sides whined a lot more about it on the forums. PvE was going on for all servers, you’re trying to tell me that SBI decided to PvE from Friday to Tuesday and then decided to skip the rest of the event? Sorry but the Halloween thing impacted servers equally. SBI was getting beat pretty good for 4 days.

As for real adversity, I think SBI are the ones that haven’t fought against adversity. Judging by last weeks reaction you’ve never had to deal with orb hackings or other tactics. You’re initial reaction was to hit the forums and stop playing. Blackgate on the other hand had dealt with hacks before and those tactics are almost standard in lower brackets. Now you will stand literally right next to JQ as long as BG loses something. So while in more than a few cases BG is getting 2v1ed, SBI is 1v1/2, yep real adversity there! Seems to me the only adversity you guys have dealt with is not having a big enough mindless zerg to go against HoD.

I’m all for tactics and 2v1 is a good tactic when someone is clearly dominating. However the current situation where SBI and JQ will cooperate and 2v1 the lowest server is poor sportsmanship. You can claim it’s tactics all you want but SBI should be going after JQ stuff to insure their lead and JQ should be after SBI stuff to close the gap. I know there is no formal alliance and 2v1’s happen on all sides, but you show me an instance were BG is blatantly helping the opposing servers by either guarding them, standing around near them, or otherwise and I’ll be the first to say it’s pretty lame.

“BG was in the lead for 4 out of 7 days..” you know what, 2 weeks ago JQ was rolling 4/7 days and my sig still said “GG SBI” on Friday. Use that to rally your server not convince other servers of your 50% prowess capability. There’s a reason its a 7 day fight not a 4 day fight.

To the guy who says JQ and SBI are just blocking all newcomers … why arnt we taking turns winning then? Ya think the JQ community is so spineless as to willingly accept second place multiple times just to stay in T1, rofled in my mouth on that one.

Ergo Proxy.6219:

The problem with portal bombing is that it makes mesmer god tier in WvW and forces almost every mesmer in a decent WvW guild to use portal.

People are openly talking about the need for more mesmers and more portals in my guild at times.

No other class can have the huge impact on the battlefield that mesmers can atm.

Put it this way, if you have a lvl 80 geared character of any other class and a lvl 80 geared mesmer, what possible reason could you have to bring the other class?

We have a guy who rolled a Mesmer for similar reason.. the server was just crazy short of them at one point (much to my delight when I joined server). Now that we have enough for gank groups and tactical movements he is told “why are you on your Mesmer” This was quoted just last night.

The good Mesmer IMO are not just portal slaves but they know what they are doing in every aspect of their craft and almost exclusively play a Mesmer. The commanders have grown to know the names and use them rather than just ask someone to go roll a Mesmer. Of course I think this evolved over time of Mesmer educating the commanders of exactly what we can do as it was a bit of a mystery for a while, as well as commanders giving clear instructions of what they want from us.

A Mesmer that doesn’t know how to avoid porting their forces into a trap or who can’t push through the nastiest chokes on the map have no use… because the portal either equals death or it never lands.

Moving 100 feet is easy, moving completely around a cliff up a choke and behind enemy siege without being scouted and then putting portal in the right spot without making it too far from the origin is more timing and talent.

I would like to note for current and future T1 contenders (as if most didn’t already know), it’s not just fielding a full map of quality players but keeping them to play next week that is the test of T1. None of these servers are “what they were”. Keeping a community together is an effort on all parts.

Jado Cast.1805:

Just a shout out to my Peeps on Beastgate! Don’t listen to this hacker crap, or worry about the 2v1. Just keep fighting the good fight. I have Mad respect for you all for getting us here to T1 and we will keep fighting our arses off! Peace.

No one who claims there is some unfair double team should call t hemselves beast gate with a serious face.

Did someone claim that WM is working on JQ? This tickles me sooo much. Were actually getting personal hate tells from sbi and people still try to say its teamwork. All day all we have been saying is when is bg gonna get in the fight so wm has more than one target… rediculous.

With no commentary on the NA/EU server xfer complaints, but locking it down that you can’t xfer at all would alienate travelers, like military personnel etc. It might not be a major portion of the population but a military person stationed in say Germany might still want to play with their NA friends and visa versa.

just as an example.

you should try sitting in an enemy keep for hours waiting to maybe port people in …

If trebbing walls don’t forget you do kill peeps all the time if they are trying to rep or during the breach, don’t forget to look for bags on ground! Hopefully your server gives you pat on the back for taking down the wall or good hits.

so you start a whole thread on this, get it locked or deleted or whatever, get your answer that you just don’t like then keep trying to repost over and over like all of a sudden someone will just see the video and think jeez yeah that’s totally wrong …

Goblin Beet Farmer.3045:

The real issue is the fact the “tactic” takes advantage of occlusion culling.

people think that porting gives you some culling buff. Aside from the Mesmer, who is completely rendered for the enemy, no one has an “advantage” Those portalled in are just as blind.

Just tonight one portal worked great, then second run through it was just a little “too easy” to get to the spot and low and behold it was a trap nice little wipe i portalled the group into. I fell for the trap so I take the blame but there’s no benefit to the portalled over those being jumped for culling.

“while SB let JQ do the fighting” you mean while they watched us waste our resources on you wipe then they take what we “loosened” lols. Not to take away from SBI for the tactic of course, just sux to be on that side of it. You guys kill me when saying there is server teamwork on any organized level. I do get how it feels that way sometimes, you can even hear us say it on TS “yep there’s SBI watching BG kill us” … Knowing survival means getting ready for next wave lol.

Was a really great Garrison Throne room 3 way that was so much fun. Soooooo much red.

Esoteric.5490:

Arani.9057:

earendil.1290:

A mesmer that hids in the Hills for 4 hours, not discovered and not moving, while possible is highly unlikely. The thing to do would have been to take screenies.

I formally require from now on that any mesmer that hids takes regular screenshots, just in case his presence is contested. In absence of said screenies, people have the right to call foul play.

This was brought up, and I even said a couple times “jeez they are gonna QQ on the forums over this one I should SS”, but #1 it gives away where and how I was evading for so long and #2, that’s up there with asking every time 9 golems show up at water-gate tho show your work. When you do something really well, just because they didn’t figure out how we did it doesn’t mean we need to show them our math.. lay out how it was done to ease their minds.

Don’t forget that our inner keep and outer keep was never breached. So you should have taken a screenshot. Because we have video and we saw how JQ was clumped towards the wall trying to do something. Until there is a shred of proof that your play was clean, then my opinion and the evidence that we have remains unchanged that this was foul play without a doubt. You have some serious gall to show yourself here and proclaim that you were hiding for 4 hours and then not provide a shred of proof by shrugging it off as a trade secret.

the inner gate was breached, how did you get in? BL did not own it on rematch, its not BGBL. And when it’s that blatantly apparent that you missed YOU walked through he big hole in the gate… ONLY in BGBL can you make this claim

earendil.1290:

A mesmer that hids in the Hills for 4 hours, not discovered and not moving, while possible is highly unlikely. The thing to do would have been to take screenies.

I formally require from now on that any mesmer that hids takes regular screenshots, just in case his presence is contested. In absence of said screenies, people have the right to call foul play.

This was brought up, and I even said a couple times “jeez they are gonna QQ on the forums over this one I should SS”, but #1 it gives away where and how I was evading for so long and #2, that’s up there with asking every time 9 golems show up at water-gate tho show your work. When you do something really well, just because they didn’t figure out how we did it doesn’t mean we need to show them our math.. lay out how it was done to ease their minds.

I’m sorry you feel the Hills situation was not legit, it was. It was a very patient Mesmer. I understand why you think it might not be because who would wait inside a keep that long.. well that’s what a planted Mesmer does.

I was there myself for the plant so I know how he got in legit, cuz I did. There is no more to tell I’m sorry if this doesn’t ease your mind in the nature of good sportsmanship, that you missed something and there was no foul play, but that’s it. I’m sorry if you remain upset but there’s nothing else to say, we are crafty folk us Mesmer and can play tricks with your eyes and all…

Enjoying match even with the constant out-manned going on lol. Lots of great 2v1s and 1v1v1s going on so far I gotta remember to start hitting fraps sooner lol. But I agree “if it’s red it’s dead” IMO.

There was a legit Mesmer in Hills. (GreenBL)

we do have stealth abilities but on timers unlike thief abilities. I think max we can have is 4 if using stealth weapon. This means of course we sacrifice a lot of other things to do it. I only use 3 max when sneaking about your keeps, bu there’s been many times i really wish I had that 4th lol.

Narkosys.5173:

Nerf mesmers is all i have to say Nerf em darn good – dont you dare touch thieves!
I can see how disheartening this is tho. Put in time and dont get everyone out of the keep then have the enemy on top of you. If it wasnt an exploit and a mistake then spend extra care and time sweeping.
I have been out of WvW for a few weeks but plan to get back in. Hopefully my thief can do some damage since all i get is nerfed. – hint dev hint*

this a legit post or humor?

have to remember the key is that the entire army already bypassed the defenses by breaking down a door/wall. We broke down the walls already. The ability to re-breach the same objectives in a different manner is imperative to the game, otherwise it would be hit the door hit the door hit the door… fail… hit the door hit the door hit the door… Mesmer gives you a chance to continue to push the objective in a second manner rather than just door knocking over and over.

I’ve hid inside for over 2 hours (Sorry SBI)… It was not overly “fun” and a little bit stressful, especially when you hear they found you, and have to actively evade for another 30 minutes without tipping off NPCs, but sure do feel like that deserved a chance to ninja the Keep for that time investment.

There are more ways to find us than there are places to hide. We have to get more creative all the time with evolving warfare.

atarigenocide.4987:

I can’t believe someone really suggested 50-100K badges. Sounds like someone who has never played WvW for more than a few minutes. I mean, are you kittening kidding me?

for 1k.. I think some servers would not get a commander till next year.