Guild Wars 2

Ayrilana.1396:

Those who farmed Amber primarily and nothing else had no impact on whether the other towers succeeded now or not. They were at Amber the entire time.

This will be my last post to this nonsense because you just don’t get it or just don’t want to get it . . . even after I posted my recent experience tonight with a legendary mob . . . yes at Amber.

You see, as I already said and other(s) pointed out as well, your above statement is just not true. One even posted he commanded in-between fights to help forts and caravans other than at Amber.

It’s also, for the very last time, not the point Mzx was making. He is saying the OVERALL effect was to the benefit of the map to completion. He’s not saying those people were or were not helping other forts.

He is saying they still helped the map . . . again overall.

Yes, you’re missing the point big time, even with another poster pointing out what he meant, and still you don’t get it. So, obviously, I’m wasting my time explaining what he meant repeatedly.

You just keep telling yourself you’re right.

Ayrilana.1396:

I never said that anyone said they could no longer farm Amber. What I was correcting was him saying that people had to do the other bases in order to get shovels to farm chests. Why are you twisting what I said into something that I did not say?

I never said all farmers did not help. That’s something you came up on your own

And the wheels on the bus go round and round. . . .

Ayrilana.1396:

That user originally made a post that people are now worst off that people can no longer farm chest at Amber like before which resulted in less people.

“or words to that effect”

Ayrilana.1396:

This, as you can probably guess, is because those Amber farmers were not contributing anything to the other forts to begin with. The most you can say is the loss of an almost guaranteed claimed fort. I say almost because there were several times that we actually lost Amber with everyone there.

Are you not even reading what you write? Geez. On that note, a legendary just spawned on the map and then despawned because not enough were there to take it before it killed everyone who tried. Yes . . . despawned.

First time I’ve ever seen that happen.

“Negligible to the impact on events getting done”

. . .

Negligible . . . right.

Ayrilana.1396:

That user originally made a post that people are now worst off that people can no longer farm chest at Amber like before which resulted in less people. The majority of the farmers stayed at Amber the entire time and did not go to the other forts. Did you not see the plethora of threads/posts over the weekend of people complaining that they were all by themselves at forts while everyone else was at Amber? Selective memory, perhaps?

I responded by saying that the farmers were at Amber so people trying to do the entire meta for achievements or whatever are really no better off now. This, as you can probably guess, is because those Amber farmers were not contributing anything to the other forts to begin with. The most you can say is the loss of an almost guaranteed claimed fort. I say almost because there were several times that we actually lost Amber with everyone there.

This is one of those posts where you’ve indirectly proven you don’t get it and just don’t know it or don’t care because you’re blindly defending a nonsense position.

First, please point out where the original poster, or anyone in this thread, said that “people can no longer farm chests at Amber” or words to that effect.

Second, even if you believe farmers at Amber (all of them) did nothing to help events in other forts, which is untrue as pointed out by Leablo with his comments, the overall effect is that those farmers in Amber did help the quests to completion with only the final Gold and Silver bosses being the ones often not defeated.

Third, the point Mzx was making is that now there are fewer people to overall help with the events and achievements period. Has the fact that you’re posting in a thread marked ‘Why is SW suddenly dead?’ completely escaped you?

Also, the fact that you keep saying all the farmers or players around Amber did not help other forts is such a gross blanket statement it’s embarrassing. And utterly untrue.

The point he’s making, which you keep dancing around in your defense, is that there are fewer people to help others who didn’t get the achievements early on. That has zero to do with keys, shovels, or the other nonsense you keep bringing up.

Didn’t think I had to spell it out for you, but apparently so.

See now. Leablo gets it. Yes, it’s simple. Yet. . . .

Asmodeus.5782:

We won the Breach thrice in a row today. I had no more time, but according to people it was going on for most of the day. Just find a good taxi or start one.

This is accurate. Just hope someone is offering a taxi to the map and keep an eye out in LFG. Granted, it’s now harder to find the map, but it’s apparently there if you look hard.

But, make no mistake about it, it’s nothing like the many zerg-fests beforehand. And yes, the chest nerf is to blame. Because, believe me, the area would still be hopping full if not for that.

Let’s not kid ourselves.

mXz said this: (smart move by the devs to only allow keys to be purchased and not shovels)

You (Ayrilana) said this: People got more than enough shovels by farming Amber only.

And I said this: You’re missing his point. He’s saying they still had to complete the events to progress the farming. The shovels are moot if players didn’t have keys. They bought keys with badges earned from chests and event completions.

And then you said this: They did not have to do events at the other forts to get shovels.

And I again say you’re missing his point.

Ayrilana.1396:

People got more than enough shovels by farming Amber only.

You’re missing his point. He’s saying they still had to complete the events to progress the farming. The shovels are moot if players didn’t have keys. They bought keys with badges earned from chests and event completions.

These completions progressed the map and often spawned legendary bosses. The reward system kept players interested. And if needed, the zerg would help certain areas.

Now?

You have this thread and the situation Mxz describes.

It’s not rocket science. It’s cause and effect.

Arrow.4619:

They were pretty much zero help – the farmers wouldn’t help hold forts except on rarely – hung out at Amber and scaled things up and that was about it.

BTW – The fort defenses suck a little too much on these. The fort closes to the wp gets some well positioned arrow carts. But Amber get “cannons” with crappy range and very limited field of fire.

That’s not true at all. Even if the farmers only helped defend Amber, they still helped the overall events progress to completion. Granted, it was slower than all four keeps being held, but it was still done. They had to, in order to keep farming that area, and see more badges and awards.

In fact, from my experience, the farming maps still got all the bosses downed except maybe Gold and Silver.

Last night, after the nerf, I saw only Copper, Iron, or both getting downed . . . maybe. Channels filled with people looking for an active map. Looking for the legendary bosses. And getting more desperate and wondering what happened.

It was pathetic. But not unexpected. It proves your defense that they were ‘pretty much zero help’ statement is untrue.

How many threads did you see saying how dead or empty the new zone was before the nerf? And how many now? Please think about what you’re saying.

This is a case of the vocal minority not seeing the big picture yet again. And they never do. Always unhappy that players are playing the game in a way they don’t like.

It’s the Queensdale train and the Coil all over again.

Called it.

Again, for those that complained about the chest farming and the zerg not helping you get your achievements, how’s it working for you now?

Enjoy the newest dead zone.

Indirectly, it was about the amount of loot. Because chest farming was more profitable than defending all four camps, people stayed around Amber to defend that instead.

But I do see your point.

On that note, the zone’s much deader than before. And the LFG channel was pretty telling. Ah well.

I really don’t get people complaining about getting too much loot in an MMO. But, whatever, back to doing my dailies and logging back off again.

met.9653:

Haha so they nerf spawn time of this chests outside amber after all :P O well, have fun in dead map. I got all achis, no reason to stay there :P

Pretty much this. If you complainers thought you weren’t getting help before, you can hang it up now since most of us got all the achievements done.

Good luck getting anything in the newest dead zone.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

If the voice was Glint, then something horrible must have happened to her voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvM2fnKZ8xg

Glint’s voice is not only feminine, but also distinctly high pitched.

That’s Glint’s voice? Ugh. Well I never got that far in the original game. Maybe she got into Marlboro and developed that sexy smoker’s voice?

. . .

It could happen!

Rose Solane.1027:

I hope Anet does something about this if the “problems” I run into the last two days are also on other servers. Nobody is doing the events accept defend Amber. The amount of Lost Bandit Chests around Amber is insane. And as long as you defend Amber you have access to a merchant that sells the keys. There does not seem a lack of shovels so this can go one forever.

The reason I hope something is done is that it is very boring. It kills the game. If loot is only available by doing boring stuff players will stop playing sooner or later. So I don’t scream because I am selfish. I scream because an interesting map with nice events became a boring map. I don’t think there should be room in GW2 for repetitive boring game play. And if that is selfish, sorry for that.

You don’t get it. Your answer is why I call the motivation selfish. Watch.

[The reason I hope something is done is that it is very boring for me. It kills the game for me. If loot is only available by doing boring stuff players will stop playing sooner or later. So I don’t scream because I am selfish. I scream because an interesting map with nice events became a boring map for me. I don’t think there should be room in GW2 for repetitive boring game play for me. And if that is selfish, sorry for that.]

But, for the people farming the chests, it’s anything but boring . . . for them. Do not get that twisted. It’s not altruism and please don’t pretend otherwise.

I sometimes wonder if people want to kill this game. So let’s be clear: Loot. Loot is what drives players to play MMOs like Guild Wars. They do the quests and such to gain better gear.

That’s the goal.

The idea what anyone wants to ‘nerf’ something because it doesn’t go with their own personal goals or interests is just selfish. Look at what happened to Queensdale, the Coil, etc.

Yes, it’s selfish. And don’t feed us this ‘it hurts the trading post’ nonsense. How is getting items cheaper going to hurt you? Sure, if you’re a gold seller, it might. But you’ll get over that.

Please quit screaming for nerfs when you can’t get an achievement done because that same zerg, that you want help from, is now doing something other than helping you.

But, honestly, I expect ANet to nerf this to the ground regardless . . . if history is any indication.

This is the biggest reason I wear headphones when playing. Sometimes, little sounds like these are drowned out. For example, did you know the mini pet from Halloween, the Mad King’s pumpkin head?

It laughs.

But, as far as the voice, yes I heard it too. Distorted, but definitely there. Figured it was Glint. Could be this happened before her death? A ‘just in case’ measure before everything fell apart.

We’ll see.

Once you get the pattern down, it really is simple. When I returned to get the achievement, it took less than five minutes I think.

A little long because the ‘bubbles’ kept spawning in the area effect of instant death. But, otherwise, it’s pretty simple once you know what you’re doing.

Yet, I will admit the time time was kinda hellish.

There’s also a badge up there if you want the achievement. While you can attempt it without paying, it’s no where near as safe.

This video guide was a lifesaver.

Same. Mine took two or three minutes if that.

Someone give ugdup a cookie.

Finally did it after some trial and error. Getting endurance for dodge helps avoid those area effects. But, once you know the correct pattern, it isn’t as hard of a fight.

Got all the way to the last boss, and seems to either bugged or I was doing something wrong. Might be just tired. Either way, I logged.

Will try again later.

ErikLeifsen makes very valid points. I sincerely hope ANet makes the puppy available as either a gift this Wintersday or buyable next Halloween.

Sadly, I don’t think most players will have the patience to wait for next Halloween.

That maize loophole isn’t going to cut it.

I get sick of rezzing stupid people who still don’t get that you should dodge or run out of the big red circles.

I block people who tell me how to ‘spec’ since their way is the ‘best’ and they’re eager to share their wisdom. They tend to think ‘damage’ is the end all, be all since they lack imagination.

I despise the mega servers and miss my old Tarnished Coast community.

And I HATE the whiners who pretty much killed the Queensdale train because of their nonstop complaining.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Rainmaker — having spent a bit of my evening on my patoot last night, as a result of the foe you handily vanquished, I must say I’m very impressed with your achievement and your style. Well done!

I must agree. Watching my peers, in the zerg, die repeatedly to foes like this, it’s wildly impressive to see you solo the same mobs.

Just shows how knowing your class and applying it makes a world of difference.

Well done.

Just a suggestion, but since Winterday’s just around the corner . . . might be a solid win if this puppy became a Winterday’s gift choice.

Hint, hint, hint.

You watch. He’ll be back next year for ten candy cobs. Calling it now.

EnlightenedNavigator.8296:

It’s not for casuals. It’s for people who are willing to spend hours every day grinding in the labyrinth or who are willing to buy possibly a million ToT bags. Having Gwynefyrdd is not a sign of being a casual. It’s a sign that you worked your kitten off or spent a kitten ton of money. I’ve spent ages in the labyrinth and opened I don’t even know how many bags. If i get it, i want to be one of the few. Sorry, casuals, but sometimes there are things that you don’t get to have.

I believe, given the fact that some posters have said they’ve gotten it in under 500 bags kind of disproves this argument.

But, if the bags stick around all year, if the market is full, I suppose . . . eventually . . . one could attain the mini well beyond Halloween.

I wasn’t even aware there was a daily achievement point cap. . . .

You can use them, and then store them in your finisher ‘vault’. I still had more than a few from last year. But, even if you have the permanent versions, I’d hold onto them.

ANet has a funny way of making something obsolete into something needed for crafting or the like later. . . .

That’s too bad. The flaming book is my favorite backpack item as well. It’s still the one I use, and it has an added bonus of lighting a dark area like a torch.

Unfortunate new players can’t enjoy it.

dkspins.4670:

By all 6 gods I hate it when people say " Can I have your stuff?" when someone leaves.

But you’re okay when some stranger announces to the community they’re leaving? Well, okay, I won’t ask for your stuff when you do the same.

Can I have your stuff now?

Vukorep.3081:

meanwhile players that missed the last years haloween and a bunch of new players that never even heard of it fully enjoy todays content and are not making posts like this one about how “LS” and non permanent content is unfair

I have to guess this is the biggest reason for the repeat. With China now playing, if we include them in the equation. Still, if that’s the case, why didn’t they repeat the first year instead? Too hard to solo?

Maybe it’s just the developers are busy with Living Story.

Hope so.

Never even heard of a ‘black’ and ‘green’ necklace. Guess I won’t be getting that wolf either. But, in all liklihood, we’ll be able to buy him next year with some corn cobs.

If this year is any indication.

Anyway, in before topic lock . . . and can I have your stuff?

I have to admit, between seasonal and Living Story events, I just log in to do my daily and then log out.

On the fence now, but the problem is the lack of endgame. ANet can only add so many carrots to chase before players realize they’re getting the stick.

Collection chasing is nice, but it’s not endgame. And if it is, the exodus will continue. The marked decrease in population during this Halloween event isn’t our imagination.

In my household, four of us played Guild Wars 2. Within the last three months, two quit to play Diablo 3. The other plays some MMO I’ve never seen before. Only I’m still playing GW2 . . . and again . . . I’m on the fence.

It isn’t the first time lack of endgame has killed an MMO.

I have to admit, given the overall negativity about last year’s event, I’m surprised they copy and pasted the same thing this year. Given, I’m loving how much easier it is to get the items without grinding like mad. But I still would’ve like to see an update to the Halloween story.

Hope to God this means they’re working hardcore on the next chapter of Living Story.

Difficult? Seriously? Man, it had one of the best leveling systems I’ve ever seen. And now it’s dumb down to WoW-level.

So they nerfed it because players were too whiny, too dumb, and too lazy to learn?

Again . . . seriously?

Seriously, the leveling change is ridiculous.

Thank you. This will be especially helpful for those players who want the achievements that are timed.

Nothing worse than waiting for the NPCs to quit chit-chatting while watching the clock tick down.

Agreed. I’ll listen to all the dialogue the first time. But if I choose to repeat the story for the achievements, you should be able to skip the dialogue and go to the event.

Feels like a needless time-sink.

I agree with the original poster.

I disliked the gold-sink with crafting, even after a ton of effort, so much so I deleted the items. Got the first vine, but once I got to the bloodstone bricks requirement, I sold what I could to get a return on my time.

The overall grind, to get a glorified backpack, wasn’t worth it in my humble opinion.

But I won’t deny those who did put in the time and money and earned the reward. I didn’t put in the investment, so I’m okay with not getting the return.

It’s fair . . . but I recommend an alternative that doesn’t involve crafting or grinding. And that’s making the dust and similar items sellable on the Trading Post.

That way, everyone wins.

I had the exact same issue. Definitely the sampler quest that’s bugged. Hopefully, ANet will address it soon.

I did both . . . finally. Probably the most brutal jumpers yet. On that note, never had an easier time getting my daily rez achievement.

Wait at the bottom because it’s raining men.

Score.

I have to admit, I’m surprised this is still as is. If I recall correctly, it’s something of a bandage fix that prevents the Trading Post from getting overwhelmed.

Back in the day, the TP would become so bogged down that it lagged and eventually froze.

Still, I do agree it should be addressed and fixed completely.

Update: Sure enough, after two more tries, I finally got it. Please disregard.

Very bad luck apparently. I’ll try again, for the third time, tonight. But, I know I’ve found that chest over ten times now.

On the plus side, the loot is good.

Not 100% sure this is bugged, but I’ve been hit multiple times on multiple skritt burglers for this specific achievement . . . and it never works.

I can see the items hitting and splashing myself and my pet. Yet, so far, nothing. No change. And no achievement.

Can someone verify or look into this?

Thank you.

Land Jellyfish ala Wind Walker: Exactly the same as the water jellyfish, but on land.

Simple, easy, and I want it yesterday!