Guild Wars 2

Rauderi.8706:

I’d be more inclined to say that ANet wants people to log in at all. Playing is a bonus. No log-in, no contact with the player. No contact, no chance to upsell cosmetics, content bumps, or expansions.

Granted, once players get to logging in, of course ANet wants them to play. That’s increased time commitment that can be tilted toward the upsell. And I don’t even mean that in a sinister way. But if they lose players for any perceived “meh,” there’s a good chance they might not come back.

I’ve become one of those people you describe. I rarely, if ever, post here now. Won’t get into the reasons why. I’m pretty much playing something else too. Log into game. Log out of game. When I hit the AP cap, I felt less inclined to bother. And it seems I’m not alone. The newest quarterly numbers appear to back your opinion.

Sadly, it is what it is.

alicatrawz.9567:

A finished product.

Nihevil.8024:

Not another rushed and lackluster dlc, i mean expansion.

Teniz.5249:

A real expansion…

Heibi.4251:

- Remove Current Daily Achievement Cap and retroactively award daily achievement points withheld from players who have hit the cap.

I like your idea, Zietlogik, but it’s never going to happen.

Yes, fix it. But I’d also like it if we could use it atop another helm. Something like the potion, visual effects.

Visual effect slots on the character tab or visual effects wardrobe.

You know, I’ve read a lot of posts, topics, and opinions on these forums. But this one? This one takes the cake. Please don’t bait the community. Not nice.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

God Bless you and all transgender players Ashencourt!

There are those who don’t understand how a small gesture like this makes such a huge difference for some. Virtual hugs for all!

Bingo! Thank you. +1 and well said.

Edit: +1 to TheNecrosanct as well. Outstanding post.

CMM.6712:

These threads only lead to irrelevant to the game debate and end up getting locked, whether they start as thanks or not. How about we keep them off the forums.

Sadly, despite the OP’s intent which I find laudable, you have a point. Especially given recent responses.

Djinn.9245:

Some people can’t help but be negative.

Indeed.

This is a thread where a transgendered individual thanked ArenaNet for recognizing him or her in a positive and respectful way. That’s all. The OP never politicized it. It’s not a ‘political’ issue, but a reality one for them.

Please quit taking someone’s thank you down this road.

I totally agree, Ashencourt. It’s a good step in the right direction as far as acceptance and equality for all. There’s no shame in it and there’s absolutely no reason to keep who you are private.

Mad respect for the LGBT community.

Makes sense.

Fixing ye ol’ forum bug.

Oh thank God. I thought this was going in another direction. Um . . . you mean interspecies. Regardless, I don’t think it’s possible except between humans and norn . . . maybe.

Meehael.8240:

I didn’t spend thousands of gems on cosmetic gem store items so that I look good only to myself, you do get that? I might sound blunt, but that’s common sense.

You DO understand that the suggested option would totally beat the purpose of the cosmetic part of the gem store and I would be totally kittened off if my gems were actually gone to crud because of that.

Lady Gaga doesn’t dress like that just for her to look special to herself in her bedroom.

Just . . . wow. . . .

Actually, given how ANet’s turned down a lot of the graphic effects with auras and certain spells due to complaints . . . I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the notion.

So calling the request ‘selfish and absurd’, given some of the insightful examples shown above, is a bit much.

On that note, I’m really not getting some of these extreme responses.

I don’t know why, but as an MMO progresses in age, it’s like the newest items must get bigger and gaudier. And yes, backpack items—especially since gliding’s introduction—is the biggest culprit here.

Exactly what Just a Flesh Wound said and said well. +1

I have to admit, some of the arguments against are rather . . . unique.

Malediktus.3740:

They do not look overly flashy to me. Customizing your character is the endgame of GW2.

You know, it’s funny because I thought the same thing when I read the latest ‘mount’ thread. It’s ironic, but we’re the ‘mounts’ in this game. Most MMOs use them to ‘show off’ their characters.

In Guild Wars 2, we show off ourselves with gawdy armor, glowies, and particle effects.

Given that situation, I can understand anyone wanting to turn off the disco ball scenario of some character’s outfit. Heck. I wish I could do that in real life with some of the outfits I see at Wal-Mart. . . .

Edit: Endless Soul gives a perfect example of why some players would want this. +1

The kicker part is they’ve already done this in PvP.

I don’t have an issue with this. And I can see it being an issue with jumping puzzles. As long as I can see my stuff, I don’t care if you’re not seeing it.

It’s a bit egotistical to say otherwise . . . in my humble opinion.

-screams like a school girl-

MINE!

Preaching to the choir there. I was one of the loudest voices opposing the expansion for this very reason. Yes, the chickens have come home to roost.

Over time doesn’t mean right now. And keeping a game alive, in light of the recent number with sales, doesn’t mean it’s dead. It means the game is not in a good place after the PvE content drought. My personal opinion about legendaries doesn’t equate into this discussion. I like to deal in facts and reason not in personal opinions and assumptions.

Given that I’m now repeating myself, and in light of a personal attack, I see no amount of reasoning is going to get through . . . and I’m not inclined to continue a debate with anyone more interested in personal attacks than logic.

You’re not getting your legendaries until the game is on more solid ground. They also said no expansions and no grinding for gear. Things change. If you feel so strongly about it, take it up with customer service.

Good luck.

Linken, The Heart of Thorns expansion is completed. Maybe not to your satisfaction, but shipped as complete nonetheless. The current team is working on the next expansion (i.e. PvE content). You are asking for that team to stop working on PvE to return to legendary weapons.

That’s not going to happen in the near future for reason I’ve already gone into.

The continued life of the game is more important than any item whether promised or otherwise. If the game is dead, legendary items are moot. Not saying I like that certain ‘promises’ were not kept, but I am also fully aware of the bigger picture.

And, once again, that does not mean legendaries are gone forever. It means they are on hiatus until the game is once again in a comfortable place, as far as numbers, in the near future.

Meaning: it’s making money.

Seera.5916:

I think some are confusing agreeing with a decision personally and agreeing that it is a good long term decision for the company.

Overall the number of players who would have bought HoT based on the legendary weapons is likely small. Comparatively speaking.

They were between a rock and a hard place. Continue working on legendary weapons and lose a majority of players to lack of new content (including some who would want those legendary weapons). Postpone legendary weapons to work on new content and lose a small portion of players.

As for me, while the new legendary weapons were not a draw for me the next expansion pack will either need to blow me out of the water based on feedback I hear from the betas or they will have needed to gotten back on track with or have finished releasing the HoT legendary weapons. And none of the HoT legendary weapons should require anything from any future expansion packs.

It is entirely possible to hate a decision a company makes and understand why it was done.

Bingo. +1

Linken.6345:

They should cut the next expansion team totaly and deliver what this expansion was sold as, then take back those developers when its done to work in second expansion.

Let me understand this logic. In the midst of a near-year-long content drought (not including raids), that resulted in the lowest numbers in their business history, you would rather ANet drop any further work on PvE content, to include an expansion, to instead focus on legendary weapons?

I see.

Well . . . I’m glad you’re not the president of ArenaNet.

Let me put it more succinctly: The ship is sinking. Putting garlands on the bow isn’t going to help. You have to plug the hole or it’s Game Over. ANet is fully aware of their missteps, and they’ve said so. The question isn’t how do they get more customers.

It’s how do they keep the ones that remain.

You’re overstating your case. Keep their word. You mean like no expansions? No grind? And now no legendary items?

I’ve been down this road before, and it’s not worth this amount of hand-wringing. It’s a non-existent item in a video game. And if it’s a question of trust? Too late. Damage already done. People left because of the content drought, lack of overall content in the expansion, and that funny business with the sale of the Core game and pricing issues.

This discussion about not getting legendaries is moot. Why? Because there won’t be a game to play if this trend continues. Heart of Thorns and the content drought that followed created that level of discontent. Do you want legendaries or do you want content to keep the game population interested, alive, and well?

That’s the scenario Mike faced, and he made the right decision. In time, everyone will get their precious legendaries.

Right now, keeping the game alive comes first.

As much as I dislike the turn this thread took, let me ask this: What do you want ANet to do? ‘Indefinitely suspended’ means it’s suspended until the authority over it decides otherwise.

That doesn’t mean forever. It mean it’s suspended until another criteria is met and fulfilled. Given the recent numbers on another thread, it was absolutely prudent that ANet did what it did until Living World and the upcoming expansion is out sooner than later.

The game is not in a good place now. The content drought proved this out. To complain about legendaries, even with all the opinions provided, is like complaining about not getting a nice table when you’re starving to death.

Can we please at least be rational?

Shovel Face.4512:

and said we could expect new legendarys as well as a way to craft/build precursor weapons later on in 2013. It took them about 3 yrs before we finally got what we were promised and on top of that, we only got 4 new Legendarys as the rest were put on hold (in other words it’s basically cancelled) despite the fact we, the players, bought it with our own money.

So what does this say about Anet as a company? Do you consider them to be fraudulent and deceiving? Because that is what I think of when someone says ArenaNet. I don’t really care for Legendarys all that much, but what I do care about is if a company makes a promise, they better deliver on that promise.

But they did. Even with your own statement, they did. Granted, it took a minute, and not the amount you were hoping for, but signed, sealed, and delivered.

That said, nine months of content drought and a dwindling population trumps legendaries. But, even so, that doesn’t mean legendaries are gone forever.

It would be silly to say so given the nature of MMOs.

Fixing ye ol’ forum bug.

Is it play-to-win? In the general sense? No. Is it pay-to-buy gold from ANet through the gem system? Definitely. Can that turn into a pay-to-buy gold that one can then use to buy better equipment (i.e. legendaries), and thus ‘pay-to-win’?

In that specific criteria, yes. It is. If one is willing to pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars or pounds to gain that benefit, then yes.

Again, only if one is looking at the given criteria in that narrow spectrum. But in the general sense? No, it’s not.

For example, in Star Trek Online, I paid $100.00 to be able to buy that Tholian ship. That ship destroys everything in its path with its nuke-everything-in-sight pets.

That was a pay-to-win scenario. Nothing in Guild Wars 2 comes close.

Let me tell you something, Aliam, that response was tame compared to my recent experiences with another poster. But that’s not to say all the posters around these parts are rude or obnoxious. Hardly. Quite frankly, these forums tend to be professional in the extreme. So much so, you often have to tiptoe on your responses . . . especially when someone kittens you off.

But yes, every forum will have its special flowers. That said, if you feel someone is disrespectful or rude, feel free to report it with that flag icon and an administrator will sort it out.

And back to the actual topic . . . no mounts thank you for the reason I already listed. On a side note, we do have ‘cosmetic’ mounts in the form of a flying carpet, a broom, and a Magento-like bubble.

But they don’t give an speed increase in case you’re wondering.

AliamRationem.5172:

Easy, guys. I’m pretty new to GW2. Like I said, I came over from WoW where mounts have been a thing since before GW1 came along! I apologize if the very idea of mounts in GW2 is abhorrent to you here. I’m honestly confused by the reaction.

To use an inappropriate pun . . . the dead horse has been beaten to death.

This topic returns every other month it seems, and the result is always the same. While mounts in Warcraft make sense, they simply don’t in Guild Wars given the waypoint system.

Also, almost everyone travels with enhanced speed already. This includes speed boosts from certain NPCs, traits, and another speed boost from masteries. And then there’s gliding with it’s speed boosts, ley-line gliding, and bursts forward already in the game.

So, again in the case of Guild Wars, having a mount to get from Point A to Point B makes little sense when you can teleport there instantly, glide, and run at super speed to any location.

Finally, since our minis disappear when the population is overcrowded on a server, I doubt ANet wants even more server lag from thousands of players standing around town showing off their pretty mounts.

In my humble opinion.

Still a solid no.

Again, it’s moot. The numbers aren’t lying and no amount of spin from any doctor is going to change that. Discuss it ’til the cows come home, but a drop in nearly half from the first quarter to the second quarter this year is never a good sign.

The bottom line is this: the ‘expansion’ was little more than downloaded content that was rushed and not properly tested, and the almost year-long content drought that followed didn’t help either.

If you sell a product, and then don’t deliver, it has ramifications.

That’s all there is to it.

Pretty much what Aidenwolf said and said well.

Behellagh.1468:

I think I’m one of the top ten posters here, nearly 11K … so I’ve been here nearly the entire time the game’s been live.

I don’t deny there were threads asking for raids, harder content, I’m saying it wasn’t White Knights asking for it since they were satisfied with the game including living world as a means to add content to the game at a steady rate. It was players who were upset that GW2 wasn’t GW with a regular release of box expansions.

Sadly, those players have left the building in the aftermath.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/You-re-doing-it-wrong/first

I’ve also been around since the forums opened. The link above is the first time I had the discussion about an expansion. I’ll let people read the thread above and decide who was right and who was wrong and who’s singing the same tune regardless.

The community can decide for themselves.

It’s simple: Living World kept people around to chase new carrots. No Living World? No content? No interest. And once you lose players, it’s hard as hell to get them to come back. And a ton of us on the forum said this would happen, but people just had to have their expansion.

Anyone paying attention can see how eye-opening this year was for Guild Wars 2. I love this game, but I’m not fool enough to say there weren’t some extremely poor business decisions involved.

The Core game set a certain standard for non-grinding, casual play at your own pace. And then Heart of Thorns arrived, and raids, and PvP tournaments, and on and on and on.

Of course the casuals left for greener pastures. This shouldn’t surprise anyone not a rampant fan-boy, waving his white knight pom-poms in every thread to tell the community otherwise.

It didn’t work for Bagdad Bob, and it’s not working here. And now? The numbers back it up.

Facts are a funny thing.

Um . . . you know it’s possible to play more than one game at a time . . . don’t you? I never did understand this kind of thinking. These are games. Not exclusive relationships where you dare not cheat on your significant other.

Of course, some players make me wonder. But let’s not go there. -shudder-

On that note, no. I won’t be playing it. Haven’t play that MMO since Death Wing showed. I forget the expansion. And I don’t want to remember.

Again, the game is not dying . . . it’s just that there’s not much to do if you’ve already done it all. That said, once you lose a player’s attention, it can be hell to regain it.

Lots of play pretties out there to distract anyone with ADHD these days.

No.

Again, please don’t discuss the posters, but the actual discussion. I’m not going to get into a debate with you about it either.

Here, I’ll help:

I played GW2 since release.. but after HoT left a really bad taste in my mouth I haven’t played for nearly a year.. and I really doubt I’d buy another expansion after regretting my previous purchase.

In some ways, I miss how Heart of Thorns was originally. Not all, but some. Despite it, I have played every day . . . for the dailies at least.

I wish there was more to Heart of Thorns, but I didn’t stop playing it. Unlike some other games that didn’t hold my interest for even an hour.

Despite all this, I know I’ll continue to play and buy expansions unless something radical happens. I’ve never thought about it before, but GW2 is the MMO I’ve played longer than any other.

I suppose it’s my favorite MMO without knowing it. No, I’m not thrilled with the expansion either, but I’ll give ANet credit for trying to make everyone happy.

Yes, they should restore such an item. Don’t panic.

Please discuss the topic not each other.

Manasa Devi.7958:

It ruined the game for me in that it was a huge letdown.

While I don’t share this opinion, I do know more than a few people who do. They quit the game and moved to greener pastures because of it. Hopefully, when Living World returns, some of them will come back.

Glad someone explained it. Never played Half-Life. Kept thinking, “What does a crowbar have to do with that celebrity chef? Is he beating people with a crowbar in the kitchen now?”